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George Marian

1:09 AM

Heh. It's kinda amusing when the interviewer seems at least as nervous as you are.

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I guess 'amusing' may not be the right word, but you know what I mean...

Moshe

Hi folks!

George Marian

Relaxing, maybe?

Moshe

@mootinator - I was not scared away 'tall!

George Marian

Hey @Moshe

mootinator

@Moshe Excellent.

Moshe

1:12 AM

@TheMountainException - Indeed, the first two days of Passover are like Sabbath, no electronics, so no tavern. Might I add that in Israel, only the first day is observed like Sabbath.

mootinator

My favorite interviewers are the ones who are clearly grading your interview on a point system, but keep insisting "there are no right answers..." to their stupid questions.

Moshe

I haven't heard back from an internship interview that was last week. Do I assume they're not interested?

mootinator

Not necessarily.

Perhaps they haven't been allowed to use a telephone for two days.

Moshe

Well I had no good answer to "What's your PHP experience?".

mootinator

shrug

George Marian

1:16 AM

@mootinator lol

This person sounded more like a techy than a manager type. I doubt he does a lot of interviews.

That's not a complaint, by the way, I prefer talking directly to the techs.

mootinator

@GeorgeMarian On my rejection call with the place I'm referring to I noticed that their interview process seemed to be good at selecting 25+ year old men who live in mom's basement.

And they conceded that I may have a point.

George Marian

lol

mootinator

Makes people who actually need a job a bit nervous :/

George Marian

Speaking of which, I think I may have taken over some work from someone like that.

I can't help it. I'm usually nervous in interviews.

mootinator

Backstory: I knew most of the recent hires in the department because I had previously worked there on an internship.

George Marian

1:24 AM

This is someone who's lectured to classes of 20-30. However, that's an entirely different dynamic. Once you prove to them that you belong in front of them, you have them eating out of the palm of your hand.

mootinator

nod

I still think the only reason I got hired there in the first place is that it was the only internship I applied for I didn't really want. I get excessively nervous during interviews.

Moshe

Well, Apple's reporting module is halfway down.

mootinator

Halfway?

Moshe

Hooray for not knowing how much money I am paying Apple commission on.

George Marian

@mootinator Yeah, I understand that. You seem more relaxed when it doesn't matter as much. Quite a paradox.

Moshe

1:25 AM

@mootinator Well, I can log in, but the App I compiled from GitHub, which scrapes the data and makes it readable is not working.

First this:

George Marian

Heh. Kinda like careers.so was haflway down for maintenance yesterday.

Moshe

Then this:

And the scraping app isn't getting the one-star review from a disgruntled customer, presumably in Israel, where the schedule is slightly different and I forgot to account for that.

mootinator

Speakin of careers.so, has anyone else gotten spam from ZoomInfo?

George Marian

Thankfully, no.

mootinator

:/

Moshe

1:29 AM

@mootinator Me neither.

Everybody join me in closing this off topic question:

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Q: iPhone app review question (UI related)

We just submitted an app for App Store review. A couple of our buttons (namely, login and sign up, which are really only used once per user) do not blink/change color when touched. Are these strong enough reasons for the app to be rejected?

It's not at all programming related. The OP asks purely if said circumstance is a violation of Apple HIG.

mootinator

Heh.

needs to rep whore a few hundred points :/

George Marian

Heh. I'm just past half-way there.

mootinator

@GeorgeMarian I was half wondering if they got my contact info from careers.so

George Marian

@mootinator I dunno. What contact info do you have on there? I've gotten two contacts through it and they were both through the system itself. I'm fairly certain that they didn't actually get my email address until I clicked on "interested."

In fact, it wouldn't show me an links or email addresses until I clicked on it.

mootinator

Okay.

Just sounded rather familiar > "The top recruiting agencies use ZoomInfo to find "passive" candidates for their recruiting efforts."

And I really don't get much spam on my work account. (About 1 per week)

George Marian

1:35 AM

Interesting. I don't think that SO is the only outfit using that term.

mootinator

In contrast to my personal account (about 1 per 15 minutes)

George Marian

There's also a good chance that they copied 'em. You know, imitation and all that.

@mootinator LOL That was one of the reasons I moved away from my yahoo email accounts.

mootinator

So, I randomly got this e-mail today:

Since no one wants to pick here are some options, Outback, Texas Road House, or Shorty"s you pick from those or give a better idea

George Marian

Huh?

mootinator

And of course it had one of these at the bottom:

This e-mail and any attachments may be privileged, confidential, and/or proprietary. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, please delete it and do not read, distribute, or reproduce it. The unauthorized use of this e-mail is strictly prohibited. Thank you.

George Marian

1:38 AM

lol

mootinator

So I just thought I'd share.

George Marian

"To late, the warning is at the bottom"

mootinator

I also replied > I'm partial to Outback, but since I'm not the intended recipient of this message, I'll have to content myself with reading, distributing, and reproducing it.

George Marian

Not to mention that you have no idea that it's not intended for you w/o actually reading it.

mootinator

No kidding.

George Marian

1:39 AM

LOL nice

mootinator

My favorite 'unintended recipient' incident I ignored for several months until I started getting this guy's work schedule pretty much every day.

George Marian

LOL

mootinator

When I finally replied, I got --> "Thanks, no wonder the other guy never replies."

Trufa

@mootinator lol

mootinator

One would think they could have worked that one out themselves.

George Marian

1:47 AM

You'd think, but common sense is not as common as it should be.

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian El sentido común es el menos común de los sentidos

George Marian

heh (I think I translated that correctly.)

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian It's basically the same as your expression, that sounds good in spanish

George Marian

Hehe. Yah, I figured. :)

Tyler Chacha

Hello

Trufa

1:51 AM

@GeorgeMarian BTW I never asked again, are you working now?

@TylerChacha hey!

mootinator

There, now the starred list is completely devoid of anything meaningful.

Tyler Chacha

@mootinator I think the correct word is meaningful.

mootinator

(I didn't do it, just the last one :P)

Trufa

@mootinator I was about to ask what the hell was happening with the stars

mootinator

Fixed.

Trufa

1:53 AM

:)

mootinator

Oy.

Tyler Chacha

Well .. my job here is done :)

:P

Fosco

lol!

Moshe

...

George Marian

2:12 AM

@Trufa Not exactly, but I've had several interviews. So, things are looking up.

Moshe

2:30 AM

Hey, @Jin, long time no see.

Jin

@Moshe helloo

Hogan

Some stars are solid, some are hollow, some are gold, some have numbers... what does it all mean?

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian ohh good to hear!

I wish you the best of luck!

@GeorgeMarian and better interviewers theoatmeal.com/comics/interview_questions

I swear all of them were asked to me in the interview for job I have right now (except the hypotetcial brain teaser of course)

Moshe

3:12 AM

@Jin I'm trying to make a tileable background for an app/game. Do you know of any tutorials that I can walk through for that?

Jin

@Moshe what kind of pattern?

Moshe

Well, I'm trying to remake a particular game.

So, I'm looking for this pattern:

(hang on)

Rebecca Chernoff

Make it a bacon background, obviously.

Jin

@RebeccaChernoff obviously..

Rebecca Chernoff

(:

Moshe

3:14 AM

Red pipes

See that?

(The green guy is the character...)

Hogan

@RebeccaChernoff See that? It is bacon!

Moshe

@RebeccaChernoff Well, if you have a bacon background pre-rendered for me in png format with 32x32 tiles, I'll be glad to use that for a level or two.

Rebecca Chernoff

yeah...no.

Moshe

Oh well, it was worth trying.

Hogan

@Moshe Bacon does not taste good rendered... it is the fat that makes it good!

Moshe

3:17 AM

@Hogan Thanks for reminding me!

I'm working on the sprite atlas now.

I forgot to render the "clouds".

Jin

that's the tileable version extracted from your image.

i probably could've done it with one box, but your image has some dithering so the colors aren't too even.

Moshe

@Jin Thanks!

@Jin - But of course I have several questions...

First of all, how would I remake that into a higher quality 32 pixel tile?

Second, how did you do that?

Jin

@Moshe i just eyeballed it and cropped it. you can pretty much tell where the pattern starts and ends.

Moshe

Well, that's better than I can do.

And what would you do to upscale it?

Trace it with a pen tool and then reapply colors and shading?

Trufa

@RebeccaChernoff it always puzzles me why some orient the smileys like this (:

Jin

3:25 AM

@Moshe you should just redraw it. it'd be easy, since it's pixel art.

Moshe

Thank you.

@Jin Eh, what do I know? Thanks. I'm going to get to that soon. In the meantime, I'm using a photoshop texture as a placeholder.

@Jin Thank you.

Rebecca Chernoff

@Trufa why does it puzzle you?

Jin

@Moshe yw. pixel art patterns are easier to do. but when you get into more textured(noised, grungy etc) they're a bit tricky

Moshe

This game is from an EGA graphics card in the 1990s, shouldn't be too hard to redraw.

Trufa

@RebeccaChernoff its just "the other way round"

Rebecca Chernoff

3:27 AM

no, you're the other way around. (:

Trufa

@RebeccaChernoff :)

Jin

@Moshe you may want to check out pixeljoint.com/pixels/tutorials.asp some good tuts on pixel art

Rebecca Chernoff

grrr, WwF is convinced I'm making up words ):

Moshe

@Jin Thank you again.

George Marian

3:59 AM

@Trufa LOL at the interview questions

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian hehe

Trufa

4:12 AM

Can I create the tag:

[tag:Free-hand-circling]

please please please

pretty please

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Q: Show the total reputation across sites in the Stack Exchange user profile page.

I'm talking about this profile page: Something like this maybe: or: *The eagle eyed viewer might have noticed that the last one was created using free hand techniques. I suppose other things might be added to, but this is "missing" and seems like a basic useful feature that would make s...

feature-request stackexchange profile-page users

Rebecca Chernoff

lol, at the store today I saw one of those "cat sitter" dvds for $1, so I bought it. My cat is definitely glued to the tv.

Moshe

4:34 AM

@RebeccaChernoff What does the DVD do?

Rebecca Chernoff

shows birds

kinda like:

amazon.com/Cat-Sitter-DVD-Your-Watch/dp/B000PFXFMK

Moshe

Cool!

is trying his hand at making a game with cocos2d

and isn't doing too well...

Tyler Chacha

4:51 AM

Hello

George Marian

5:34 AM

@RebeccaChernoff Really?

Rebecca Chernoff

I only bought it because it was $1. (;

George Marian

heh

Well, does it work?

Rebecca Chernoff

Erm, well, I said she was glued to the tv an hour ago...she's been watching it the whole time. A few times she's gotten up to paw at the tv, but mostly she's been on the couch facing the tv to watch it.

George Marian

I wonder how long the interest would last. Of course, as long as you don't put on too often, it should work. Afterall, the laser pointer still seems to work on our cats.

Rebecca Chernoff

she loves watching birds. during the day she gets to see real ones outside the window.

George Marian

5:43 AM

Yeah, our cats like sitting in the window.

Trufa

6:14 AM

@GeorgeMarian are you there

?

can I ask you a question?

George Marian

burp

maybe

Trufa

are you familiar with this question

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Q: Interview question: f(f(n)) == -n

A question I got on my last interview: Design a function f, such that: f(f(n)) == -n Where n is a 32 bit signed integer; you can't use complex numbers arithmetic. If you can't design such a function for the whole range of numbers, design it for the largest range possible. Any id...

math interview-questions integers

George Marian

I think I'm going to have a second beer, I was good today.

brb

Trufa

I think I found an answer much smarter

but that would be strange

George Marian

Oh, goodness a brain teaser.

Trufa

6:19 AM

li = []

def f(x):
li.append(x)
return x-li[0]

n = 10

print f(f(n)) == -n

this works for n=1,2,3,4....

n negative int

and n = 0

George Marian

Well, one problem is the global variable. :)

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian oh ok, that woudn't be allowed?

George Marian

Globals are bad, m'kay?

Generally speaking, global variables should be avoided. They can be changed by other parts of the system and thus tracking down bugs can be a royal PITA.

Trufa

@GeorgeMarian ok but this is a farfetched question, that looks for ingenious answers, rather that the most correct

George Marian

As for this particular question, I would assume that the function should be self contained.

@Trufa True, but it's an interview question. So, things like avoiding global variables should be a matter of course.

Trufa

6:32 AM

@GeorgeMarian well, fair enough...

@GeorgeMarian :(

George Marian

Sorry to burst your bubble. ;)

Trufa