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7:14 AM
oh oh oh I love having the ability to edit directly on MSO instead of getting shoved in the queue
oh holy hell, is it really nearly 3 locally?
 
 
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10:25 AM
I must stop typing my password before turning on my monitor when I come back
I always lock my session, I mean, but...
 
 
2 hours later…
12:22 PM
@Jin: thanks for the answer!
 
12:55 PM
RARR!
 
 
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2:38 PM
@drachenstern nummmy
 
Wat is this I don't even? ... I've been gone for 7 hours and there's been 5 posts?
 
3:03 PM
 
@PopularDemand YOU and everyone else are jerks!
 
@PopularDemand It's letting you know closing things is Serious Business™.
 
@Shog9 lol
 
@drachenstern ...as if you didn't already know who posts most of the stuff here...
 
@Shog9 That would be Josh tyvm
and then @TimStone of course
oh wait, overnight I surpassed @TimStone
 
3:07 PM
No, no, I just make occasionally witty commentary on the stuff posted here. If I have no catalyst, no dice.
 
@TimStone but that wasn't witty
 
And Jeff overtook Josh :o
 
and I'm pretty sure fully a third of my comments are re: Moshe
@TimStone I noticed that ... ah well, c'est la vie I suppose
 
@drachenstern That's why I qualified it with "occasionally", I'm in the clear. :P
 
3:08 PM
@TimStone lol
 
@TimStone This makes me want to mail you some elemental sodium or something, just to see what you do with it.
 
@YiJiang are you still playing that then?
@PopularDemand I don't think you can use that to make dice tho ...
 
@YiJiang is that sim city or somthing like that?
 
@PopularDemand I do know a lot of biochemists...
 
@drachenstern Yeah, I just grabbed the industry replacement set to get that ridiculously complex industry set
@Trufa OpenTTD
 
3:10 PM
If you're using Mercurial you should really read this ... my brain just asploded fogcreek.com/kiln/training/using-mercurial-subrepositories/…
 
@drachenstern Not dice that last a long time, maybe.
 
@PopularDemand natch
 
@drachenstern You've almost certainly seen this already, but just in case: hginit.com
 
@YiJiang I'll chack it out, I don't really like games (as you probably noticed)
 
That is the whole reason I tried Mercurial. And then signed up for Kiln.
 
3:11 PM
@PopularDemand oh indeed, that's how I sold the boss on hg/kiln in the first place
We were gonna use TFS but it didn't quite allow us everything we wanted
 
Not that I really need it.
 
you sold your boss? is that legal?
 
@PopularDemand But I haven't, and I need to convince other people here to switch away from svn before I have to kill someone, so thanks.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Why, Jeff getting under your skin?
 
3:13 PM
@TimStone You're welcome! That's two days in a row I've showed up and given someone a helpful link... I wonder what I can come up with tomorrow.
 
@RebeccaChernoff leaving out words that were in the original phrase FTL
 
@RebeccaChernoff I've decided to donate my sickness to your mold by the way, since I don't want it.
 
@TimStone I thought we had discussed that in here before. My apologies for not sharing sooner and more frequently.
And when the hell did all that get starred? ------>
of course asking dumb rhetorical questions will net me dumb answers
 
Ah, you preempted my copying of all the timestamps.
 
lol
@PopularDemand so long as it's not goatse we should be good. Also of note: no 2G1C, no TG, etc
 
3:16 PM
@drachenstern Well, none of those would be helpful. Yes, I know what tomorrow is, but I was the first to star your "I grew past 13" message, too.
 
@AdamDavis ping ping ring ring
 
@drachenstern Pick up, pick up, pick up, it's getting really hard to hold my breath....
 
Hmm, I just remembered that I ran out of pastrami yesterday. I'll have to switch to something else for lunch today, bah.
 
@TimStone that's ok, I really don't have anything for lunch but canned soup. May do subway instead
 
Hmm, I wouldn't mind Subway either, but it's fairly crappy out here today..
 
3:20 PM
So, this is kinda dumb, but I'm really happy about it ... for the fourth straight end of the month the wife and I haven't had a single bounced check/OD charge.
 
\o/
 
I finally start to feel like a grown up :p
I figure I got 8 more years to really get the hang of it tho
ok, new code to be implemented based on reading at 3am ... I really should've gotten in bed sooner
 
 
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4:42 PM
enters
\O/
leaves
 
Wow, Google Maps really fails on Firefox 4
 
It surprisingly also fails a bit on Chrome, which is confusing.
 
@TimStone It does, momentarily for me at least
 
:o
 
Then it started working again after I shook Chrome vigorously
 
4:46 PM
When I use the mouse wheel to zoom it gets all jumpy.
 
Actually, no, that didn't work, it just minimized all the windows
 
@RebeccaChernoff What has it done? :P
 
Oh hey, its working on Firefox again. Something's still wrong about it though, can't quite put my finger on it
Its definitely loading a lot slower than before
But that was the same on Chrome, so it might just be networking
 
On a new install on another machine, Lastpass extension won't automatically do its thing, says it can't connect to the server. but works if I trigger it manually. Also, SE's global auth doesn't work. And chat.se's test page says cookies fail.
 
And you don't have the problem in any other browsers?
 
4:49 PM
Cheese and rice, @RebeccaChernoff, cheese and rice :P
 
in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 38 secs ago, by drachenstern
"a tcp server with a gui" makes me kinda nervous. Those two things don't go together. I don't butter my cat.
in C# on Stack Overflow Chat, 26 secs ago, by swordfish
well its not exactly a tcp server its kind of.
ummmmmmmmmm
 
@YiJiang ...
 
@YiJiang I'm starring this if for no other reason than it's probably going to be the most random thing I read all day.
@RebeccaChernoff That sounds like a more generally weird issue, hrm..
 
@RebeccaChernoff Huh, that's odd, because I can tell you that global login has been working a lot less often on Firefox 4 than 3.6
 
@drachenstern Well there's your problem.
 
4:51 PM
@TimStone I should be buttering the cat?
 
Apparently.
 
@TimStone English is good for that sort of thing!
@TimStone Preparing it for teh barbecue!
 
@YiJiang It is lunch time..
 
Also, top-boss taking everyone out for lunch today Yatta!
 
@RebeccaChernoff I definitely had to look up what LastPass is. Sometimes I worry about myself.
 
4:53 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Super User! Eh...
 
I don't know whether the same underlying thing is the cause or not.
SU doesn't do extensions like that do they?
 
@RebeccaChernoff I thought its just consumer computer software problem, and a browser extension would fall under that
 
I feel like if I get the cookie issue figured out it may fix LastPass
 
@RebeccaChernoff I'm not sure how the two are related
 
I'm experiencing both problems
^^^ is how. q:
 
4:56 PM
... which doesn't mean anything. I'm experiencing a mid-life crisis, and I've got this really nasty bug to squash. Surely if I solve one the other will magically fix itself too
 
yes well >_<
 
@YiJiang I've found that talking to other men helps with the whole mid-life crisis part :p
 
@drachenstern I'm not that old... no really
 
@YiJiang lol
 
17, actually
 
5:02 PM
regardless, too damned young ... you two get off my lawn you young whippersnappers, or I'll chase you with my walker
@RebeccaChernoff do they have any Samoa?
 
Are they still charging $3.50 a box?
@RebeccaChernoff lol, "oy"?
 
._.
 
@RebeccaChernoff not true. That sounds like something that would happen to me easily.
Like how my VS is crazy slow compared to all my co-devs
 
5:16 PM
@drachenstern They probably pranked you so you wouldn't drastically outperform them ;)
 
@TimStone yeah, that's so not the likely reason :p Been like that for months. Boss remarked on it a couple days ago "dude, why does your VS take so long?" I'm all "idk, I just use it"
 
@drachenstern hehe. btw, when was the last time you checked your email?
 
@RebeccaChernoff not long enough to respond to it, that's for sure. Halfway (There's two and I was afk)
Where's my other TShirt? I haven't gotten any packages recently :(
I know I know, impatience is not a virtue :p
 
@drachenstern Yeah, I have a co-worker who has all sorts of issues with his machine that I just don't understand.
 
So... erh... now that we've all got T-Shirts, we're looking at how many different T-Shirts SEIS is going to send us? :P
 
5:20 PM
@YiJiang Stuck on a desert island, cookieless, with only HTTP.
 
@TimStone gasp
 
@TimStone yeah, these aren't issues to me so much as "why can't I get shit done as fast as I want" which probably is likely never gonna happen as I don't have a brainsuck interface
@YiJiang I want a black one and a white one (both 2x) and that cookie jar, and I'll be happy
Either that or a signed letter of employment with an offer to help find housing, for a starting sal (it's NY ffs, 4x the avg CoL) of 108k/yr, and I would be happy ...
 
I wouldn't mind a white SE one to go with my black SO one, but I don't do anything to deserve that :P
 
@TimStone oh, now you're attaching reasons to this?
 
@drachenstern You rang?
 
5:24 PM
@AdamDavis grr, right before I leave for a boss-sponsored lunch
I have location awareness, as I have distance from here to there, I didn't realize I did at first, so if it shows a lot of reinstalls my bad
I thought it would be more noticeable that it was sorted, so there's some feedback to start with
 
@drachenstern don't miss your lunch on account of me. Send me an email or ping me again, I'll be around, mostly.
 
Um, so I didn't notice anything else. I tried a bunch of different stuff and nothing breaks, perse. I didn't use it for like an hour tho, so there could be caching issues if you're doing anything funky yourself (I doubt it)
@AdamDavis no, it's all good, this was mostly what I wanted to say ;)
 
@drachenstern I figured they were necessary :P
 
@TimStone pffft
 
So mspaint does smooth resizing of images, which is great
 
5:27 PM
ok, gonna go see when we're leaving, should be about now. bbiab
 
however it is too clever and adds some kind of white borders around stuff, perhaps to maintain contrast
 
@drachenstern Ah, cool. Thanks! I agree it's not obvious that the list is sorted. I'll have to thtink about that.
 
@RebeccaChernoff whichever is fine by me. Just gave you choices. re: email
 
what's the next lowest-level thing that can get the job done?
 
@AdamDavis may I suggest "bold the distances" and some sort of screen flashing to indicate "a thing occurred"
 
5:28 PM
(Resizing an image to a given pixel size)
 
@drachenstern already seen and dealt with q:
 
(I don't want to install GIMP for this :|)
 
@RebeccaChernoff :p yw
 
@badpssockpuppet A command line tool maybe?
 
waves hands nothing to see, move along!
 
5:28 PM
@YiJiang I'm on Windows
 
Secrets!
@badpssockpuppet IrfanView?
 
@drachenstern Aw, but that means I have to have custom cells in my table view. I'm trying to avoid them because I so badly messed up dropping references in the detail view, I'm afraid I would be in for another day or two of debugging getting it right.
 
@AdamDavis "suggestion" not "requirement"
 
@drachenstern I know, but the problem is that I agree with you.
I'm just too lazy to do the work. I'll probably plan it for the next revision once it's accepted by apple.
Howdy @Moshe
 
Hi
@AdamDavis Got my email?
 
5:31 PM
@Moshe Yep, reading it now. Thanks!
 
Sure.
And bold text does not require custom cells.
 
Yeah, I just don't want to bold the whole line. Would be nice to bold merely the miles part.
 
?
 
But again, requires custom cells.
 
Not worth it at this point.
Get memory management under control first.
Um, did someone really star an oy recently?
oy
 
5:34 PM
I'll get there with the next release. I understand the process, but juggling cells is quite an interesting concept I haven't fully wrapped my brain around yet, and with my obvious memory managment issues I shouldn't be stretching myself there.
 
@AdamDavis As I write in my email, I honestly haven't implemented that yet. Although Apple has a good document with several methods of implementing it described therein.
 
Yep. I'm using a few books, and they all have working examples. I don't think it's a big hurdle, but I'm still learning to walk, nevermind jog. Jumping over hurdles will come later.
 
Indeed. What books, if you don't mind? (I have a few but could use more. :-D )
 
Erica Sadun's tome is my go-to guide for most things.
 
Ah, nice. Heard good things about that.
Perhaps I can put app money towards that.
 
5:41 PM
I also got some use out of "iPhone Application Development for iOS 4: Visual QuickStart Guide"
But I use a safari online books subscription for this and many other books, so I can't recommend all the books I use because I wouldnt' use them if I had to pay more for them.
 
That's a good series. I didn;t know they have an iPhone book.
Does Erica's book have iPad specific info too?
 
It was released in september last year.
 
@drachenstern: Fixed that Issue
 
No, Erica's book was released prior to the ipad.
 
0
Q: How can I publish a location checkin on facebook from Android?

Sankar GaneshThis is my attempt to publish checkins from my Android app: public String APP_ID = "[redacted]"; Facebook authenticatedFacebook = new Facebook(APP_ID); AsyncFacebookRunner fbinvoker = new AsyncFacebookRunner(authenticatedFacebook); Bundle params = new Bundle(); params.putByteArray("access_token"...

 
5:43 PM
oh ok
I gotta run, but @AdamDavis - keep it up! I can't wait for the next release.
 
Looks like there's a new book - #
Beginning iPad™ Application Development
#

By: Wei-Meng Lee
@moshe Thanks! Should be later today.
 
great!
Tschüss
 
5:58 PM
Anyway, April 1st here already. When is SO deploying its, well, stuff...
 
@SankarGanesh I fixed your formatting in the question yesterday, and now you're using the same bad formatting in the answer you posted. Why? I assume you're not a native English speaker, so I cut you some slack on spelling and grammar, but there's just no reason for this.
 
6:38 PM
@PopularDemand yes, my mother tongue is not english
 
For those who -- like me -- don't usually visit the Google main page: there's an interactive Doodle today.
@SankarGanesh As I said, that's irrelevant.
 
@PopularDemand It's interactive?
 
@GeorgeMarian Move your mouse left and right, then move your mouse (slowly) up and down.
 
@PopularDemand OIC. It controls the flame on the burner.
 
@GeorgeMarian Also the volume of some of the containers, and whether the coffeepot blows its lid or not.
 
6:53 PM
Ah, I see. I guess it was too subtle for me, or something. lol
 
7:12 PM
> My nephew is so smart that during the garbage strike he put garbage in boxes, wrapped the boxes in gift wrap, and left them on the seats of his unlocked car.
 
7:24 PM
A friend of mine begged another friend not to make this video go viral. I oblige:
(NSFW)
 
I'm pretty sure the thumbnail is NSFW...
 
@MichaelMrozek Well, it's pretty blurred. And I can't edit the message anymore.
At any rate, it needs more mankini to be really great.
 
/facepalm
 
7:42 PM
@SankarGanesh congrats sir
understanding ... understanding ... my kingdom for coworker understanding!
 
@drachenstern Sometimes, that seems like too much to ask.
 
@GeorgeMarian Heh, I was just reading about the same thing on Ars.
 
@TimStone That's gotta be just a tad embarrassing for the guy, especially since he's in the security biz.
 
You'd think it'd be embarrassing for the AV too. I mean, false-positives are one thing, but we're making "Safe/Unsafe" determinations based on directory names now? That just seems silly.
 
Yah, that's pretty bad.
Though, I've never heard of that AV before this incident. (Well, maybe once. I vaguely recall the crappy name.)
 
7:53 PM
> The findings are false-positive proof since I have used the tool that discovered it for six years now and I am yet to see it misidentify an item throughout the years
I'm not sure how someone could write that sentence and not slap themselves in the face.
 
Yah, my brow furrowed when I read that.
 
Ya'll know what this was right? It was the beginnings of the wars of using mass media for smear campaigns through innocent sources.
 
is it bad that I would rather edit my IIS through notepad++ \\server\c$\windows\System32\inetsrv\config\applicationHost.config than by RDP into the desktop and opening an app?
 
@badpssockpuppet Is this Sacha Baron Cohen's latest exploit?
 
8:00 PM
runs off to count the bags in his garage.
 
@drachenstern I don't see why it would be. Sounds like a saner approach than doing the remote desktop thing.
 
@GeorgeMarian It usually is. But then today I had to go and say something and it went poof
 
oh good lord, I think I somehow managed to make my server crash ... no, not quite
 
8:03 PM
ah-ha, I see that the find dialog is prescient or something ... it decided I needed a case sensitive search
 
I can't stand CHAR datatypes.
They're making me think I'm insane.
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount Who is Sacha Baron Cohen?
 
It's a very niiice.
 
@badpssockpuppet Borat
 
8:32 PM
@badpssockpuppet and Ali G.
And Brüno:
SFW but terribly, hilariously tasteless :)
Ohhhh, and this classic
If you watch it, be sure to watch it to the end.
 
8:56 PM
Boss loves my new production build. :D
 
@drachenstern Nice.
@drachenstern - So I fixed my bug but I don't seem to be able to convert my times again...
I forgot my math, or I'm doing something wrong.
 
Well, it's pretty simply:
hours = math.floor(time)
minutes = ( time - math.floor(time) ) * 60
seconds = ( minutes - math.floor(minutes) ) * 60
so I don't know what's causing you grief there
 
Seems I'm being inconsistent with handling things as seconds or minutes.
 
@Moshe one is an int and one is a float, to the presentation layer. As you can see from the math, they must both be floats internally
really you need 5 variables, not four
 
hang on, I got the hours right again... progress...
 
9:07 PM
Windows Mobile 6 is so Microsoft
2
 
And....
Boom!
 
Every three or four months, applications randomly stop working
 
Danke @drachenstern.
 
Oct 11 '10 at 19:47, by radp
Impossibile aprire il file $applicazione. Firma digitale con certificato attendibile non disponibile o impossibile trovare uno dei componenti. Se il problema persiste, reinstallare o ripristinare il file.
I'm getting this again, five months later, and just like last time I forgot what the effin thing I did that fixed it was
 
@badpssockpuppet does it say the cert expired or that the cert is corrupted or ...
it looks like corrupted storage (since I don't speak italiano)
 
9:11 PM
Oct 11 '10 at 19:49, by Lasse V. Karlsen
The file xxx cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one if its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file.
I really must gift my father an Android cell phone at the first applicable chance. WM6 is ridiculous
 
I'm guessing you didn't do a hard reset around November?
 
@drachenstern A complete reset to "new state"? Nope, no.
 
@badpssockpuppet that's what I meant, yes
 
Oh Lord.
I just checked if one of the application worked and it did
 
And so?
 
9:18 PM
I rebooted the phone and now got the above message for that application too
/o\
Additionally the phone control panel gets in denial whenever I try to change the clock to the right time (from 20:10 to 23:19) :|
 
@badpssockpuppet I just tell it to use the network time
@the Where have you beeeeeeeeeeeen?
 
9:36 PM
@drachenstern I don't see him.
 
@Moshe he's not here. I was hoping to catch him on the flag
 
@drachenstern On the flag?
 
I don't think he's been around anywhere near close enough for that to work tho
 
Well, I got the utility working.
 
@Moshe Yatta!
 
9:37 PM
Yep, thanks.
 
So is it accurate?
 
@drachenstern Compared to the original, yes. Compared to similar third parties - to the nearest minute.
@drachenstern - Do you know what the hebrew word for "times" is?
 
@Moshe I can google it (means: I don't have to, I don't speak Hebrew)
 
Right.
So, please entertain me then. What is it?
 
According to my (very brief) googling, there is no exact Hebrew word for time, it's more a concept of the occurrences of things. So when the Torah lists times when things occurred, they were not exact times like we in the Western World consider them.
Hola @MarcGravell
 
9:42 PM
Ok, well the modern hebrew word for "time" would be "zman"
but if you want to know the time, you might ask what the "hour" is.
Anyway, so the utility is called "zmanim", which means "times".
 
@Moshe that's true on most cultures.
 
hola
 
Were you aware that once upon a time clocks only had one hand ... guess which one
@MarcGravell so just to spread the love, there's a very special room on chat.SO atm (there's already one mod present and at least three more monitoring via chat logs) but ... thought I might share with another team@
I'm sure more people aren't needed of course
 
@drachenstern I'm guessing the hour :-)
 
@Moshe indeed
 
9:52 PM
:588109 then you need to stop using chat. But it's not that terrible, is it?
 
BURNINATE IT!
Hahah :P
 
@Pekkastrollingaccount It's so responsive I can count the updates per second
in the neighbourhood of 6
 
@badpssockpuppet oh, with the IE clicking sound?
 
When... when finally the thing worked. Everything exploded. It's running extremely slower than its extreme slow self.
@Pekkastrollingaccount As if I could get far enough to launch IE
 
@badpssockpuppet oh you're having problems with your machine?
 
9:58 PM
@Pekkastrollingaccount My father's mobile
 
@badpssockpuppet ahhh I see
 
10:33 PM
Does this answer deserves a -2?
-1
A: How to read / write a struct in Binary Files?

karlphillipYou should have a look at Boost Serialization. If you can't use 3rd party libraries, you must know that C++ doesn't support serialization directly. This means you'll have to do it yourself. This article shows a nice way of serializing a custom object to the disk and retrieving it back. And this...

 
It's not a -2 to begin with :)
 
@badpssockpuppet If you check the total votes, you'll see that there are 2 downvotes there.
 
10:58 PM
Dammit, stupid DST
still 1hr2mins to go
I won't see it :(
 
Ooooh, APRIL FOOLS' PRETTINESS! SQUEEE!
 
11:13 PM
So...what? I see nothing, and have concluded that you're all a bit mad
 
I will verify that it is live. (:
 
hands Michael dark glasses, white cane
 
Oh, I see
Nothing on the SE sites? I'll have to take things into my own hands
Oh, there are different animations. Now I'll have to spend all day voting on....wait a minute. Nice try, SEI
 
I'm going to install @balpha's Commander Keen script and watch Keen fight the unicorns
Offline? Unacceptable
 
11:35 PM
Did I just get a thumbs up from a horse on #stackoverflow? I guess it would actually be a hoof up.
 
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Q: What's the point of vote animations?

AndrejaKoExactly what it says on the tin. I may be a bit out of date, but can someone explain to me the reasoning behind them?

 
I take it that the unicorns have arrived already?
 
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr global auth not working is killing me here. ):
 
@RebeccaChernoff you don't happen to be VPN'ed in?
that might screw with global auth
 
11:43 PM
no
I don't think global auth is the what is actually broken, it's just broken because something with my cookies are I think. Global auth is easier to blame. q:
 
I'm confused by the fact that there doesn't appear to be anything wrong with your cookies :P
 
Is the OP actually believing me here?
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A: What's the point of vote animations?

balphaWe have a rendering bug on some of our sites (around the voting controls) that we can't fix (our designer has to do that, but he's on vacation, making a "bacon kinds of the world" hike), so we decided to cover the glitch up.

 
mmm....cookies
 
@TimStone I have no other ideas. ):
 
does the request to stackauth ever get made?
 
11:48 PM
on sites yeah, but the chat help page doesn't do anything with stackauth does it?
 
> Test 5: Communication with stackauth.com
 
didn't you say that global auth isn't working on the sites as well?
 
The cookies test is the only step that fails. And right, opening up a new site does nothing, going to the login page doesn't trigger it either. I have to actually log in.
 
but the request to stackauth gets made?
does it return a 404?
 
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