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12:23 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why do we still use "Sie" even if the context is disrespectful? by bryku on german.stackexchange.com …

does roomba delete negatively voted duplicate questions?

Are these the only criteria that apply at first?
has −1 or lower score
has no answers
is not locked
Or is it exempt from that subset as a result of being a duplicate?

12:40 AM

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Q: Mobile vs. desktop branding: They look like different sites

I use Stack Overflow on the desktop when coding, but in the evenings I use the mobile version. I noticed the branding doesn't match between these and at first glance they look like different sites / brands. Here are a couple of screenshots: Mobile is blue; desktop is black and orange. Maybe y...

feature-request design mobile-web

status-to-be-deferred

1:01 AM

I came here expecting animated gifs of animals. I was not disappointed.

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user315433

@TravisJ Being closed as a duplicate has no influence on deletion. If it qualifies, it gets deleted.

1:20 AM

@Sally Except for the 9 day roomba, whose criteria rule out duplicates.

user315433

1:32 AM

True. What I meant to say is that the presence of [duplicate] mark does not make any difference. (The presence or [closed] does.)

1:46 AM

Belated morning

2:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Difference between print() and println() by babi on arduino.stackexchange.com …

Semienthusiastic night!

2:51 AM

I ate at whitecastle for the first time today.

It was... interesting, and sort of horrifying.

Are you still alive?

It's definitely made of people.

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Yes. For now. Ask again in the morning.

ok

3:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, bad keyword with email in body: HOW I GOT MY LOAN FROM A RELIABLE LENDER? by Cortz Mendal on money.stackexchange.com …

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4:04 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: http://skincaresfreetrial.com/max-nitric-oxide/ by Jamxaviy on drupal.stackexchange.com …

4:20 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: The Question Most Teens Think They Are Fully Aware The Answer To by Scottobell on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: Decrease Your Extra Fat With Avitae-Scam Or True? by meldalightlevbn on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Steps To Make Skin Look Newer Tips That Is Fast by patrickmckain on askubuntu.com …

4:36 AM

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Go to bed before midnight, as early by Dorismbboyd on drupal.stackexchange.com …

user315433

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user315433

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user315433

'tis the day to remember... my first "Good Answer" badge on any main site.

user315433

It only took 2931 answers to get one.

user315433

(Of course, the answer I got it for is utterly trivial.)

4:54 AM

!!/report superuser.com/questions/635111/…

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Emails In Inbox Originating From The Same Address (Yahoo! Spam) by Nuno Dias on superuser.com …

user315433

I don't know... is this spam or a clueless NAA saying "I'm getting spam from this site"?

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: How Last Longer In Bed And Penile Growth Pictures by Heszsloi on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Functions regarding the true Dervina Firming Cream Ointment by Blimoiuy Pk on money.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: older from impacting the looks of your dermis? by shkfdjuriya on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: taking the arena of magnificence by using storm? by shkfdjuriya on meta.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Is this really an effective solution? by shkfd juriya on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Is this wrinkle-free formula safe? by shkfd juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com …

5:23 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Bio X4 Pills- Is it works very Fast! Read Reviews by Nichol Asgr on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Vita Luminance Regarded as one by foakydoasy on drupal.stackexchange.com …

@ShadowWizard I lurk in tavern, but usually you'll see me sitting in faint corner. My only task here is to keep waiting for the reports that smokey post(and sometimes flag them too) cc @Derpy

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title: What does browser do when it queries xxx.example.com and it gets a certificate for yyy.example.com(top level domain is same)? by user3305079 on security.stackexchange.com …

5:46 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: You also need vitamins and minerals by gerriyms jobs on money.stackexchange.com …

6:04 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: The Surprising Ingredients Muscle Mass Growth Formula by melisacre on movies.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: just must eat carbs in littler parts! counting any style by arcia juriya on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Fiber each for the reason that the show circulated by gloriacatherineueygp on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: the off chance that it is clumpy to your mouth by arcia juriya on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Is there a word for 'a person who is always hungry'? by Roeshambeezy on english.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: Is there a word for 'a person who is always hungry'? by Roeshambeezy on english.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: 6 Week Muscle Building Program by koiulkakina on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching website in body: Get high score in essay writing by Davidjohnson on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: The skin tone foreseeable future undifferentiated by Blimoiuy Pk on askubuntu.com …

6:29 AM

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Q: Can we implement a mobile version of the Stack Exchange homepage?

The Stack Exchange sites all have mobile versions (see Stack Overflow, Android Enthusiasts, Super User, etc.) The main Stack Exchange homepage doesn't seem to have a mobile version, nor do any of the other pages at the root Stack Exchange domain such as Leagues (a.k.a Top Users) and Privacy Poli...

feature-request mobile-web stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector fp

Why was a bounty added to this?

@rekire Registered question as false positive.

Is 50 rep going to make the SE devs work faster?

sd 10k

6:30 AM

1. [:4610559] That message is not a report.
2. [:4610553] <processed without return value>
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@Quill maybe more clicks result in more attention

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Why did they need to know how to code? by kellyjanee10 on movies.stackexchange.com …

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[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Aggressive treatment For patients by Rukachimi on superuser.com …

!!/report superuser.com/a/1044313/172747

6:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: How do I read Intel CPU specs? by lal singh on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Unharmed examiners head out to Delta by Exer Nice on superuser.com …

user315433

Users with many answers, none of them good: Wiktor Stribiżew leads SO with 3,350 answers among the users without Good Answer badge. This may have something to do with 98% of his answers being in [regex] tag.

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Forcing Higher USB Current by Raju Kumar on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.) …

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: advantages but since we r tune which people by Mildred Defilippo on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Acne Care Self Skin Care Tips by user102224 on security.stackexchange.com …

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7:13 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Natural Beauty care - Merely Open Your Kitchen Cabinet by Jelvinartiery on meta.stackexchange.com …

7:25 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Adding up the digits and the digits reversed by pinsiballot on codegolf.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Is Penis Dangerous? 3 Simple Methods To Use Penis Traction Safely by olianroy on security.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: This created Pine Tree State extends my analysis by elen jurin on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Entity Queue name not an option in sort criteria by naziaansari on drupal.stackexchange.com …

7:48 AM

@DroidDev Does the tavern really do much more lately?

@Derpy umm....apart from smokey, I'd say nope.

If current conditions continue, I will start starring reports from smokey, because of total inactivity of other people around here.

@DroidDev no need to stare, leave a tab open, looking at the number of new messages enables you to work on other pages :)

@bummi I was just kidding. That's what I usually do. Its actually easier with no activity. I know that new messages are from smokey ;)

exactly , no distracting image posts ;)

haha, true that, no animal gifs

8:03 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Tallying calories or focusing on the eat by Ron Tsao on superuser.com …

!!/report serverfault.com/a/759121/185961

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: SharePoint Extended Web App 404 on One WFE only by Anita on serverfault.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body: Get more muscle from protein by imogenmonso on gaming.stackexchange.com …

!!/report android.stackexchange.com/q/137850/39544

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: Coordinating recover in unwinding country by Ron Tsao on android.stackexchange.com (@AndrewT.) …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Skin care review care systems by Andrew Portilo on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Boost muscle growth by imogenmonso on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Increase energy and stamina by imogenmonso on 3dprinting.stackexchange.com …

8:23 AM

!!/report gaming.stackexchange.com/q/256445/93824

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported question: the art talent behind the Gears of War by 4fifacoins.co.uk on gaming.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Your breathing moderate even make either by Ron Tsao on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: South have had a considerable measure by Ron Tsao on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted user: SharePoint Extended Web App 404 on One WFE only by Anita on serverfault.com …

@bummi bzzzzz.... invitation detected...

@Derpy nooooo .... :)

have a mitchiri neko.

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: (((

8:30 AM

no need to thank me.

and see the positive side of this.

We have plenty of cats to post.

Mitchiri neko are as numerous as Pokémon...

8:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Doubt completely I cherish that the ladies by Ron Tsao on money.stackexchange.com …

@DroidDev huh, so what will make you be more active here? ;)

@DroidDev @Derpy is active... :D

@Telkitty also pretty active, compared to others

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link following arrow in body: Serum of Life Special Put a little pop by AngelaPatten on meta.stackexchange.com …

@ShadowWizard if tavern was den-ish, I'd be more active

Den on the Meta.

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8:57 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Dervina Firming Cream whipped cream, especially made for establishments by Alexius866 on workplace.stackexchange.com …

@DroidDev if tavern will be more den-ish, flags will fly all around the place.... D:

@SmokeDetector k

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Best Skin Care Tips And Treatments Of All Time by patrick mckain on security.stackexchange.com …

@ShadowWizard Well, since all is silent here, I am skimming thru the tcrf.net archive. Not much luck so far, mostly things I already knew.

I was hoping for something interesting in the FF7 sections..

@ShadowWizard haha, truer words have never been said

9:14 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: holy grail” because neither meals? by nirzabreya on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: most likely reduces the person’s urge for food,? by nirzabreya on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Furthermore, the cognizance? by nirzabreya on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: feel drowsy and tired constantly by eiopwlkangel on meta.stackexchange.com …

9:34 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title, offensive body detected, offensive title detected: WHAT CUNT DELETE MY QUESTION? by Commando on electronics.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: how its work Revita Beau? by ustinszdher on superuser.com …

At lasttttttt the power of 2k on MSE!!!!!!

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Hunting About The Best Skin Care Products? by Keszsloi on askubuntu.com …

10:14 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: optimalnutritions.com/nucific-bio-x4 by ragednatural on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Is product riskless and authorized? by hwayjiibond on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: How will product work? by hwayjiibond on meta.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] URL-only title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: http://supermusclesbuild.com/nitric-strom/ by bettycole on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: Is there a way to change the color of a .png object using Adobe Illustrator? by pawankumarsaini on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com …

10:34 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body: Serum of Life Special Drinking enough by johnmary on meta.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Cardiax 3N Pro is effective or not? by kurtinowilliam on askubuntu.com …

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10:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer: parse_rackup_file': rackup file (config.ru) not readable (ArgumentError) Unicorn Nginx by Lance Forester on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in answer: parse_rackup_file': rackup file (config.ru) not readable (ArgumentError) Unicorn Nginx by Lance Forester on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: Lengthy beneficial sight sexy by plicefbi on craftcms.stackexchange.com …

11:06 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: showing some type of with regards by plicefbi on crypto.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: It system the manufacturer used to be unable? by matlpewmax on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, pattern-matching website in body: ervina Firming Cream are usually written by famo by user47115 on workplace.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: scientific trials and concluded that Garcinia? by matlpew max on superuser.com …

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: with the BS depend as with what we eat. Is it exact by Eltoon bond on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body: item. I'm veggie beau, so no meat. Not by Eltoon bond on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: AVIQUA ANTI AGING CREAM Reduce Selections And also by Seves1944 on money.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: http://skincaresfreetrial.com/max-nitric-oxide/ by crewly on security.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Skin Care - Permit by milerroy on security.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body: Has anyone ever wondered why Suzanne by williatf on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: to subscribe to years of junk mail on your electronic? by matlpewmax on meta.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: accessible in the business sector aren by wtqsnjuriya on askubuntu.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: constitution's shrouded fats using so as to blaze by wtqsn juriya on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: constitution's shrouded fats using so as to blaze by wtqsnjuriya on meta.stackexchange.com …

12:03 PM

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[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: CorelDraw 9 Error message by AttilaKozma on superuser.com …

not sure...

sd why

@rekire [:4611268] Body - Position 270-283: lrecovery.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Take A Closer Look At H2o Skin Care Products by user102254 on security.stackexchange.com …

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12:48 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, phone number detected in title: Contact number for facebook~1~#855^855~3090? by facebookhelp on askubuntu.com …

@bjb568 “This one’s for you, wherever you are....”

Webcast de Stack Overflow en español: Episodio 1

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calling Facebook Support

Unikitty eats a cat

lol

1:31 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Анимация в JavaFX by Icyjon on ru.stackoverflow.com …

Sterling Archer

2:18 PM

-1

A: PHP Global Array not working

use python (sorry for trolling, I spent 1 hour about this odd thing)

I flagged this as VLQ -- is that correct?

I never know with VLQ.

NAA or VLQ, either is okay

Sterling Archer

kewl, thought so. Thanks

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Unikitty eats a cat

Lol

Unikitty eats a cat

3:00 PM

Good bye reps

0

Q: How to completely fill an object with fluid?

I know how to make obstacles and inflows in Blender, but I do not know how to simply select an object and have it be filled totally with fluid. What tool/command/setting do I need to have an obstacle become filled with fluid?

fluid-simulation

3:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body, email in body: hiw dangerous are husk seeds if you ate them ?? by joanna christakis on chemistry.stackexchange.com (@IͶΔ) …

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How do I change the commentary language on Fifa 16 for PC? by Ankit Das on gaming.stackexchange.com …

4:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: 2nd Gen iPod (iOS4.x) using iPod keyboard by Sana on apple.stackexchange.com …

@bjb568 - you have a competitor.

chat.stackexchange.com/users/29808/nathan-jones

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: What is the death toll attributed to US internment of Japanese-Americans during WWII? by jonny on history.stackexchange.com …

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this one cat is at least a 20% cooler.

Sunglasses are old :P

@Derpy Matrix Reloaded.

You should really upgrade.

4:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer: Relation between electric potential and wavelength of an electron by Ronak on physics.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Manually reported answer: Relation between electric potential and wavelength of an electron by The Real Ronak on physics.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: how to increase backlinks? by user102287 on security.stackexchange.com …

@SmokeDetector That's what happens when a crazy troll comes to the internet.

5:14 PM

I'll give an example for a site where the threshold is 2 to make it more clear.

1) Someone posts a spam answer on this site, and Smokey detects activity on the site. This counts as activity #1, so Smokey won't do any API request.
2) 15 minutes later, somebody posts a question. This counts as activity #2.
3) Hey, threshold reached! Let's do an API request for the most recent activity and check it out.
4) Oh look, there's a spam answer! Let's report it.

[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Shock absorbents These discs are by Anjjunjj on superuser.com …

ewps.

afk changing my password

5:40 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in answer: Word to describe a personality which has many interests? by drurry on english.stackexchange.com …

@SmokeDetector Why?

@IͶΔ Body - Position 10933-10944: weight loss

Haha

Sterling Archer

lol

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: MOvers and packers pune by rashmigupta on superuser.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website in answer: How to translate "add" as in "add me on Skype"? by cloud three on german.stackexchange.com …

5:50 PM

@SmokeDetector false

@bwDraco Registered answer as false positive.

Not the best answer by any means but it's a false positive.

@SmokeDetector trueu-

@ProgramFOX yeah, but why wait 15 minutes? That's the part I don't quite understand.

@ShadowWizard Because it coincidentally took 15 minutes between those actions? >_>

In this time the spam will be cached on Google, for example.

@ProgramFOX but why depend on actions?

Can't Smokey just poll the posts with a timer?

5:56 PM

To save API quota.

Why a timer?

Would it be a good idea to give Stewards more CV reviews?

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body: what i need to do if my facebook account was hacked and deleted by someone? by prasanthi chowdary on webapps.stackexchange.com …

@IlmariKaronen if you're around can you check this? I use this and this as my test targets.

@rene Hmm, I think math is testing the beta version of Mathjax. There's something on their meta about this.

@rene @rene @rene

meta.math.stackexchange.com/search?q=mathjax+beta

That proves some of my point.

6:16 PM

Ah

That explains why they are different. \but in the thread Ilmari linked to on their github it was mentioned that having two versions of MathJax could be related when users are having problems.

@rene: I'm not convinced that the version difference matters, although of course it might. But I'm definitely seeing breakage on both sites.

Also, I'm now on Chrome 48.0.2564.116 m / Windows 7, and I'm seeing this bug a lot more consistently that I did on Linux.

But it's... weird. The first time I opened your links, they both worked. Then I switched the MathJax renderer from HTML-CSS to Common HTML and reloaded, and got unparsed LaTeX on stats.SE and [Math Processing Error]s on math.SE. On the next reload, it worked once on math.SE, but since then, I've got unparsed LaTeX on both sites, every time, with every math renderer I've tried.

My best guess so far is that either it's a race condition related to some assets (web fonts?) that get loaded over the web and then cached, or that there's some persistent setting (cookie / LocalStorage?) that's getting screwed up.

6:35 PM

Whatever it is it needs developer eyes. I don't think the normal crowd of math.se or stats.se will be able to create a proper bug report for this.

So if we can test some scenario's and share our findings I think that will be helpful. Maybe write an answer as community wiki?

> Answered by Rene Karonen

You can help as well @IͶΔ

I'll be the janitor. :)

@rene That makes sense. Or we could share info in chat (maybe not here, might be better to make a separate room) until we actually figure out something more definite than "it's weird".

Hmm, clearing cookies and LocalStorage doesn't seem to have helped. :/

(Also, chat gets confused if you clear your login cookies while chatting. :)

user315433

@tchrist Thanks for digging this up. Reminds me that English-language podcasts never feature Community Managers (at least in my memory). There were some developers: Jason, Roberta...

6:46 PM

from memory: Robert, Rebecca, Gabe and myself have been on podcasts

user315433

Your memory is longer than mine.

@rene OK, so I think I'm getting somewhere... on this particular browser, it seems that MathJax almost always works when I open your edit links in a new tab, but almost always stops working (in that tab) when I refresh the page. So, yeah, I suspect a race condition somewhere.

user315433

I see. The most recent podcast featuring CoGro team was appropriately titled The Decline and Fall of Stack Overflow (or rather re-titled, because the original title was different). That was in May 2014.

(Actually, this stuff vaguely reminds me of a known bug in SOUP on Chrome. In that case, reloading the edit page tends to fix the bug, but it might just be the same race going the other way. In any case, there seems to be some inconsistency in the timing of the Markdown editor initialization.)

user315433

Latin Language is in private beta. Undo got question #1 on the site.

6:55 PM

@Sally yay!

@Sally and who is user 1?

user315433

Adam as always.

(think @Undo was user 1 on a site once)

Usually it's one of the team, since they launch it...

@ShadowWizard hardware recommendations.

Not sure how much they shunned him for it. :P

Good memory, @IͶΔ ;)

user315433

The first non-employee user on Latin was ArtOfCode, at #7.

6:57 PM

Undo is the Jeff of Hardware Recommendations then... ;)

@Sally why "was"?

@ShadowWizard Backshifting. "was" or "is" mean somehow the same from the aspect you're looking at it.

user315433

"Valentina Tereshkova was the first woman in space"... or "Valentina Tereshkova is the first woman to have been in space"...

user315433

Have to have some past-ish tense thingie somewhere. I think.

status-English-too-complex

@Sally It's an instance of backshifting, I think.

7:00 PM

For me it just sounds like "was ArtOfCode, so it means not anymore"

Not everything looking past refers to some time before.

> I was hungry so I ate

Not hungry anymore ^

Not everything != nothing

user315433

@IͶΔ Was there any explanation for his #1?

Yeah, on MSE

(or here maybe?)

7:03 PM

@Sally I think it was here.

^ Backshifting

web.stanford.edu/group/cslipublications/cslipublications/HPSG/…

CC @Sha

> Ambiguity of Tense Tense presents ambiguity at two levels:
• The same surface form can correspond to more than one grammatical tense.
An English example is the verb form put, which can, for instance, be present
tense or past tense. Some languages show this ambiguity in productive conjugation
patterns. For instance, Portuguese corremos is both a present and a
past form of the regular verb correr “run”.
• The same grammatical tense can locate a situation in time in different ways.
An English sentence like I leave tomorrow shows that present tense can refer

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throwing Backshifting on @IͶΔ

hugging backshifting

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user315433

@IͶΔ Not much of an explanation, but they managed to sign up before Area51 had a link to the site.

user315433

7:13 PM

Sep 9 '15 at 16:23, by Undo

http://hardwarerecs.stackexchange.com/users/1/undo

user315433

@SmokeDetector That's when a CM tells them "we need to talk".

@SmokeDetector k

7:47 PM

@IlmariKaronen OK, that is fine with me

@IlmariKaronen chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/980/…

8:21 PM

@Derpy Blasphemy!

8:43 PM

monring

evenin'

night

afternoon

jesus, it's like the truman show in here

42

Q: Why is Code Golf & Programming Puzzles still in beta?

Checking Code Golf & Programming Puzzles Area51 profile page you can see that the page fulfills the requirements to graduate. Why is it still in beta?

discussion beta-phase beta-sites

This should probably be closed as A) it's localised B) they've graduated, so A) it's localised

Quill your face looks neater now.

8:48 PM

Not sure if compliment or insult :p

Mmmmm mobile chat

It's so much better now

yeah, it's amazing

@Quill Mark it [status-completed]? :)

that works too

Reply, pin, flag, star, omg

Context sensitive toolbars

user315433

9:07 PM

Gilles is back to 3 diamonds, only because nobody else wanted one on Emacs: 2016 Community Moderator Election Results

Would he not have been if anyone else wanted a diamond?

user315433

9

A: Why aren't YOU a candidate in the moderator elections?

If nobody wants to step forward, I'm willing. I'm not participating as intensively as I did during the early beta, but I still spend hours per day in front of Emacs and at least a few minutes per day in front of Emacs.SE. But, like I said before, I'm a already moderator on two sites and former mo...

user315433

This election set the network record for the longest stretch before the 1st mod nomination.

Oh, so the users are pretty much meh.

I do wonder; what would be the maximum amount of crap an emacs site would get?

Less crap -> Less moderation -> More boring

@Sally They should just elect M-x doctor as moderator. :)

9:13 PM

Guess having crap on the site somehow pays off.

user315433

in *scratch* on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Feb 11 at 20:58, by Jon Ericson

@Gilles Last month: 24 flags and a handful of mod messages. Very minimal.

Wow.

That's like a polished library.

Boooooooorrrrrrrriiiiiiiiinnnnnnng

Hugs crap like chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/46811/…

user315433

You didn't vote to close that...

I didn't?

!

O_o

Oh hell, the review page's still open. :(

I forgot to finish the review.

user315433

9:31 PM

> testing the theory that everything is better with jQuery: pic.twitter.com/ofFu23L5YY -- Joshua Heyer at 1:24 PM - 23 Feb 2016 via Twitter

user315433

Apparently, deleted now.

9:50 PM

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10:13 PM

@ShadowWizard No, it means that he became user #7 in the past.

It says nothing about him no longer being such.

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Suppose this morning there was some race, and he won the prize because he came in at #7. He was #7.

@tchrist OK fine fine, but it still sounds weird... guess I'm not used to see correct English. :D

user202362

10:48 PM

I wonder who you usually hang around with :p

kiwis

user202362

the fruit, the bird or the people?

11:04 PM

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11:30 PM

@Telkitty all three are bitter

11:42 PM

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