@Mooseman true/tp cannot be used for answers because their job is to add the title of the question to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'. If you want to blacklist the poster of the answer, use trueu or tpu.
Yes, such questions are within the scope, but they must:
Not be in the format of I've found a bug. Please fix it.
Have an example (MCVE) of the faulty code
The question you linked is off-topic, as it has no MCVE:
When asking a question about a problem caused by your code, you will
get m...
@AaronHall There are other rooms that are mostly feeds. If you only have feeds post to the room, it will close due to lack of activity automatically after 15(?) days.
@BoltClock'saUnicorn Yup. PS -- is it useful for me to go through all the answers of all these users? If that saves mod work I would love to do so, but if you always go through the answers anyways with these sorts of flags then I won't.
I've already gone through a few of the users' full answer lists, flagging all plagiarism
@josilber Going through the most recent handful it seems not every one of their answers is plagiarized so I think it'd be great if you could point out those that were
@BoltClock'saUnicorn OK. I noticed that Brad likes leaving a link on each one with the source of the copying, so probably individual flags would make that easier?
@Andy I see you're fairly involved in Community Building. I was reassured by Martijn that my room wouldn't be closed because it claimed the Python tag. I think we need an alternative to the Python room with a different culture than the Python room.
I was told repeatedly by Python room owners to get my own room, which I did with multiple moderators blessing the idea.
@AaronHall maybe Jon wasn't aware of such thing. I think your best bet, if this doesn't get settled in chat, is a meta post. Make sure you won't call names in it.
OK, I went and did some research: Your room, "Python Core Architecture", has had exactly one conversation related to Python in the last two months, and that was this morning. Other than that, it's an endless trickle of you talking to/about yourself and some feeds about python that anyone could follow without a room.
In its four months of existence, the majority of its only 450 posts come from you. Meanwhile, it continues to be a low-energy passive agressive snipe at the Python room.
There seems to be more going on than I realized. I'm unsure of the culture in the Python room. I wander through it infrequently. Is there a reason there can't be two rooms? Or, is there a reason a room with feeds shouldn't exist? There are precedents for it elsewhere on the network.
The reason that restriction is put in place is so you don't follow up a series of kicks by creating your own room and harassing the room owners from there.
I don't care if the room exists, but as a room owner of Python, I wonder why we deserve the passive vitriol. I thought we put this silliness behind us over the summer.
I am annoyed at the fact that the room seems to only exist to commentate on our room. It (the room, not the specific quote) feels like low level harassment, which is exactly what Shog said not to do.
@AaronHall I'm not sure I follow. It's fine to be proud of your accomplishments, but it's weird and alienating when you alternate between wanting us to be happy for you and making annoying, unnecessary negative comments about the room.
It's like you're basically saying "I like to participate in room 6 ... but also you guys shouldn't exist", and meanwhile when you do participate it's a toss up whether you're actually contributing or just interjecting with /me style irc thoughts.
We want you to be a member of the room. We've gone out of our way as room owners to welcome you and include you. I don't understand why you must be negative about room/6/python.
I'm not talking about your room. I don't care about the alternative room. I'm asking directly why you feel the need to say negative things about the main Python room.
And others who want that can join me in my room. Maybe I can add some room owners who can help me moderate. I didn't make it open for like a week because I was paranoid that some new guy would come in and be a jerk and shut me down.
No one joins you. A relevant Python conversation has happened exactly once, for 30 minutes, as far as I can tell. All it does is sit there saying "hey, here's this other room that's not the Python room"
No, the size of the room is not important, the content is, and there is none. It's because you insist that you don't like us, but continue to participate with us, while meanwhile having a room that's deliberately meant to draw attention from us. If you don't like us, make it a clean break.
Should I just assume you'll say negative things about the main Python room because you want to, regardless of the steps we've made to include you or steps we've made to be carefully welcoming after you decided we were jerks this summer?
It's you coming into the room and just monologuing in the middle of another conversation. It's you doing "hey, delete that before the owners get to it wink wink". It's you commenting "hey, they ended that off-topic conversation, sure is quite here now." And a bunch of other passive aggressiveness.
@AaronHall your room existed in the first place to some personal agenda (but more subtly than your former and now deleted room), then you failed to keep it up to anything resembling a room, while participating in the named Python room...
Again, you're missing the point. It's not the feeds, it's not the culture. It's not the fact alone that you exist. It's the entire experience, drawn out over months and months.
@JonClements Serious question: Is there a reason a room with just feeds shouldn't exist? I ask because there is at least one example of a CM having such a room
@Andy there's a meta.se post about on topic rooms somewhere, that basically says "if it's basically like waiting at a bus stop with some strangers, it's off topic"
Yeah, I had forgotten until I clicked on your name in chat this morning and saw the latest snipe at us. Which goes back to my point of "if you don't like the room, make it a clean break" because then I never would have clicked again.
@josilber I kind of like the individual flags, because I can filter flags based on "plagia", then open tabs for both the original post and the target quickly. I do a side-by-side comparison, comment, and then delete as needed. I leave the target link behind for when the plagiarist complains that we're wrong and they didn't copy the post.
@BradLarson Cool -- I'll keep doing the individual flags. I've gotten through all but 5 users, but each has a lot of answers so it will take some time. Should be through everything by this evening (I'll run out of flags today but will have enough after midnight UTC).
Okay, back to this, I don't have strong opinions on the room closure. I'm wondering what things in the main Python room's culture, beyond salad, you feel are negative.
@AaronHall if you wish to dispute my action as a moderator and freezing your room - then do so by contacting the community team via email... you don't need to trouble others with this
closed for inactivity after a flurry of activity, after making a small joke about the "salad" language - do I really need to send an email, or let's just forget this whole thing and accept that there's an alternative Python room where people don't speak "salad" and there are feeds and the room rules are posted at the top instead of a silly message.
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I don't hold it against you at all @AaronHall. I'm cool with disagreement and my concern is that there's a deeper cultural issue with the room that we need to address. The worst thing would be that there's something deeply sick with the room's culture and no one is telling us.
The only other thing that disturbs me is how we have to treat new people, sometimes, but we're a lot nicer than other rooms, and I understand that we have to do things that seem mean sometimes to keep order.
Yeah, that happens and we could be better about it -- would be good as a reminder in the next general room meeting. I hope you continue to be a member of the Python room and help us with that.
I experienced that first hand on my first few room visitors, I nearly panicked at the thought that they were going to be complete jerks and get me shut down.
My heart was racing and everything. I admit I've got the ol' adrenaline pumping now, but I try to be cool under pressure.
Just like the main site, we have rules for quality control, and our main goal is to be welcoming but firm in maintaining quality. This has been the consensus at every meeting we've had so far, with the caveat that we should try to say hello more often.
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Have an example (MCVE) of the faulty code
The question you linked is off-topic, as it has no MCVE:
When asking a question about a problem caused by your code, you will
get m...
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