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// These are the current spam-detector regexen:
r={
    /<h2>[\s\S]*?\b(?:\d{10}|vashikaran|baba)\b[\s\S]*?<\/h2>/i: 'Bad keyword',
    /<h2>[^ ]+<\/h2>/i: 'No spaces'
}

Man of Snow

@Undo It's non-profit, but I can provide a link in it for donations

Undo

@ManofSnow The main repo is here. We think it would be best for you to fork it and make whatever changes you want to add an API (we'll help you get it set up, etc.), then we review the changes and merge it into main.

Doorknob of Snow

6:06 PM

wait, oops, wrong way. flip the string and the regex :P

Man of Snow

@Undo This'll be tricky, because I'm not using Javascript

Eugene

Hello

hichris123

@ManofSnow It's a repo written (mainly) in PHP...

Man of Snow

@hichris123 I see. It shouldn't be hard, because the language I'm using is based off ECMAScript

Doorknob of Snow

updated spam detector, now it detects titles without any spaces and also it gives a reason when it posts a spam question.

Eugene

6:08 PM

Guys is there an SE website where I could ask a question about headphones?

Bart

What kind of question?

Doorknob of Snow

@Eugene Audio-Video Production?

3ventic

Headphones installation, creation, usage, or what?

Eugene

I looked on the internet for info about cable length for a specific manufacturer/model, but got bupkis for the moment

Any idea?

Bart

Not really, no. :/

Eugene

6:15 PM

Well maybe then someone could suggest the most probable SE website to ask, that question? "Audio-Video Production" as was suggested?

Doorknob of Snow

warning: lots of false positive spam coming soon (I'm testing)

SPAM: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/156370/… (Contains letter a: rotating and positioning of repeating parts in tikz)

Undo

uh-oh

Doorknob of Snow

SPAM: superuser.com/questions/708316/… (Contains letter a: unix expr command shows strange results comparing integers)

ok, killed it :P

it works

the new spam reasons feature

Eugene

Okey. Read the description. They might know, but seems not really the appropriate place.

Doorknob of Snow

ok, so now both reasons (contains bad keyword and no spaces in title) are up and running!

brb, lunch

Undo

6:19 PM

You're not just going to leave us alone with that... monster spam finder gizmo, are you?

Man of Snow

@Undo I'm registering the app on StackApps, and I'm trying to think of a name... is Charcoal copyrighted?

Undo

@ManofSnow I doubt it. Call it charcoal-api or something.

Man of Snow

@Undo The app I'm registering on StackApps?

Undo

@ManofSnow Oh, I haven't copywrited anything in my life :P

@ManofSnow Oh, call it Charcoal if you want.

Man of Snow

@Undo Hooray :) And if I copyright it, then you would be sued, lol

Undo

6:20 PM

yeah, don't do that.

Man of Snow

Ok :P

Undo

You would have to prove I'm damaging you somehow, which wouldn't happen :P

Man of Snow

I'm stuck at the OAuth Domain

I've never created one

Undo

@ManofSnow Oh, there's an iOS library for that.

Man of Snow

I'm talking about registering it on StackApps

Undo

6:25 PM

@ManofSnow Ah... use erwaysoftware.com if you want.

Man of Snow

Okay :P or I can use the website I own

Undo

@ManofSnow Use yours.

Man of Snow

Haha okay :P

hichris123

Oooh. I can actually OAuth now since I have a IP!

Undo

Makes some things cleaner :P

@hichris123 You didn't have an IP before? How'd you manage that?

hichris123

6:26 PM

@Undo Heh, I mean server IP.

Undo

Ah, yeah.

Man of Snow

@Undo I'm looking at erwaysoftware.com, you don't have any apps made yet?

hichris123

It makes my life so much easier now.

Undo

@ManofSnow Eh? I have like six.

Man of Snow

@Undo None are listed

Undo

6:27 PM

Oh, erwaysoftware.com is kind of a mess.

Man of Snow

@Undo Nevermind, just a bug. Listed after the 3rd click

Doorknob of Snow

back.

yay, no spam since I've left! :D

Man of Snow

It says totalizer is 'coming soon', but it's already out :P

Undo

hehe

Man of Snow

@Undo I'm actually confused, I've never listed an 'Oauth Domain'. What is it for? The website they get the info to sue me from, or something?

hichris123

6:30 PM

@ManofSnow It's a redirect URI.

Man of Snow

@hichris123 Okay, thanks

hichris123

Basically it's where they redirect users to after they've authenticated and send it the OAuth data.

Undo

@ManofSnow Yeah, Redirect URI.

Doesn't matter much for client-side flow. You could use google.com if you want :P

hichris123

2

A: Adolf Hitler user and Icon

This is something we're aware of, and currently mitigating. We do have some rather comprehensive facilities in place to handle this sort of thing, however I consider this person to be highly competent and you'll probably see them surface some more before it ends. I've got some changes to send ov...

Man of Snow

@Undo What redirects to the OAuth Domain? When the user is authenticated or something?

Undo

6:32 PM

@ManofSnow SE does after the user is done logging in.

Bart

@hichris123 It must be interesting to be on the other side of things from time to time

Man of Snow

@Undo I don't like that, I'm not planning on having this thing as a webapp

Undo

@ManofSnow You check for the redirect from the client side.

I do it in Stackboard, actually.

Have an iOS thing?

hichris123

@Bart Wouldn't you love to be on that side sometimes? :P

Man of Snow

@Undo Okay, thanks, so I guess it doesn't matter.

Bart

6:34 PM

Ha

Undo

@ManofSnow Have anything running iOS 6 or higher? I can give you a Stackboard promo code so you can see how I do it.

Man of Snow

@Undo A phone, an iPod, and an iPod :)

Undo

@ManofSnow I can give you a Stackboard promo code if you want it.

Man of Snow

@Undo What exactly is 'Stackboard'

hichris123

Jan 6 at 22:50, by hichris123

No @Pops, you're not crazy just because you still see that picture.

Undo

6:36 PM

@ManofSnow itunes.apple.com/us/app/stackboard/id681476896?ls=1&mt=8

Man of Snow

@Undo Since it costs money, then yes :P

hichris123

@ManofSnow Come to the Android side!

Android > Apple :O

Apple > Android.

HERESY!

6:37 PM

Apple != anything

Undo

thumps Doorknob

Man of Snow

Don’t call me a mindless philosopher, you overweight glob of grease.

Undo

Apple != people-who-make-emulator-that-takes-eight-minutes-to-start :P

@ManofSnow Ok, I have the code. How do you want me to get it to you?

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo The emulator only really takes thirty seconds or so once it's all settled and stuff :P

hichris123

@Undo Android != crazy UX designs that are weird, and partially copy off of Android

Man of Snow

6:38 PM

@Undo Email or PM

Undo

@hichris123 Uhmm... have you seen android before and after iOS?

Man of Snow

I have an android emulator called 'bluestacks', and it takes ~10 minutes to start

Undo

hichris123

@Undo infoworld.com/d/consumerization-of-it/…

Undo

^ Kinda interesting :P

Man of Snow

6:39 PM

Before iOS

As stupid as palm

Doorknob of Snow

my spam detector is getting dusty :/ have the spammers given up?

Undo

They never do.

Doorknob of Snow

well, for now they seem to have

Man of Snow

@DoorknobofSnow Maybe your spam thing sucks

Whenever I create spam posts, it's always logical

Doorknob of Snow

@ManofSnow it works! :P

there's just no spam to detect

...you create spam posts?

Man of Snow

6:41 PM

Yes :P

I mean no

Undo

@ManofSnow Is that really your email address?

Man of Snow

You guys have no proof

Doorknob of Snow

BAN HIM! :P

Undo

Man of Snow

@Undo No, why does everyone think that?

Is that what it is when removing the X's?

hichris123

6:42 PM

Man of Snow

Remove the first '@'

Undo

@ManofSnow Because you say to remove all the XXX's and this is what you put: XXXvideogameXXX@cheatsultra.comXXX@gmail.XXX.coXXXm

hichris123

^ That's the real first Android device

Doorknob of Snow

@ManofSnow because that's what it says in your profile perhaps? :/

Man of Snow

On my meta profile :P

@Undo Remove the first '@'

Undo

6:42 PM

Sent

Doorknob of Snow

I'm kind of getting bored with no spam :P

Undo

:P

Doorknob of Snow

I keep waiting for the detector to say something!

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Same. Give me something to do @Undo!

Man of Snow

That extremely spammy post didnt get detected

Doorknob of Snow

6:44 PM

@ManofSnow which one?

Man of Snow

@DoorknobofSnow The skeptics one

Doorknob of Snow

@ManofSnow that's because I didn't have "no spaces in title" filter yet

now I do

Man of Snow

Because every spam post has no spaces

Doorknob of Snow

r={
    'Bad keyword': function(el, qTitle) { return /\b(?:\d{10}|vashikaran|baba)\b/i.test(qTitle) },
    'No spaces in title': function(el, qTitle) { return /$[^ ]+^/.test(qTitle) }
}

any other suggestions for filters?

Man of Snow

Cant copy this :P You shouldve sent the email with only the code

Undo

6:46 PM

@ManofSnow then the spam filter might have whacked it.

@DoorknobofSnow Put java as a bad keyword too :P

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo :P Oh, maybe I'll have it detect tags in titles too!

Man of Snow

If you want to see bad posts, just hang around the php tag

2

Doorknob of Snow

/$(java|php|c#|...):/

@ManofSnow lol :D

Man of Snow

There's an easier way to do that, just get every tag from the page violating cross-domain, etc

Doorknob of Snow

?

Man of Snow

6:48 PM

should take about 5 minutes to do all that

Want me to send code that gets every tag?

jadarnel27

PHP is too narrow a window. If you want see bad posts, just hang around Stack Overflow.

Doorknob of Snow

there, added "tag in title" filter

Man of Snow

@Undo Your app needs a search by tags new feature

When I sort by new it displays blank :P

Doorknob of Snow

@Man @Undo Isn't there going to be an official SE iOS app sometime soon?

Man of Snow

Other than that it's okay...

@DoorknobofSnow I hope

Pops

6:53 PM

@DoorknobofSnow 6-8 weeks.

Doorknob of Snow

@Pops Lol, doesn't affect me because I use Android but I thought I saw it mentioned somewhere...

Man of Snow

Honestly, just go online to the mobile site :P

jadarnel27

"6-8 weeks" - Ah, the classics never get old.

Pops

@DoorknobofSnow Probably in the post announcing the Android app.

Man of Snow

Should this be my OAuth page? pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zrc54e6i

Pops

6:54 PM

@jadarnel27 I just discovered that Googling "six to eight weeks" brings up the Many Memes of Meta as the first result.

Doorknob of Snow

ok, the bad question detector is running (now it detects more than spam so I don't know what to call it :P)

hichris123

@Pops Wow... that's a good thing, right?

Doorknob of Snow

the spam/low quality-question-detector-izer

jadarnel27

It's definitely a thing.

hichris123

And you still haven't gotten me the spammer stats @Pops!

Pops

6:55 PM

Number of times hichris123 has asked for spammer statistics: 3

animuson

Gah sleep for 8 hours and the flags queue runs back up by 200 flags.

hichris123

@Pops You want me to make a counter of it?

Pops

Look, I just met you halfway and provided a statistic.

Bart

@Pops I'd say he's spamming you

hichris123

I said the spammer stats, not a stat. Can't read: NO HIRE.

Doorknob of Snow

6:58 PM

SPAM: Tag in title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21414420/… (Strange: property “set” in ASP.NET markup not actually being set)

oops

okay, so that's not a tag

I might have a problem with that filter

and it's not spam, but I just easily fixed that

Man of Snow

Listen for a dash and then the tag name

Doorknob of Snow

Tag in title: expressionengine.stackexchange.com/questions/18830/… (Profile:edit - exp:profile:reset_password - form redirects to index.php)

Man of Snow

or see if the tag name is the last word

Doorknob of Snow

yeah, this filter might not be the best idea

I'll make it require a space after the colon

Man of Snow

The application icon 'must be hosted by stack exchange imgur account' - what does that mean?

Doorknob of Snow

7:02 PM

@ManofSnow it has to be http://i.stack.imgur.com/______.png

Man of Snow

How do I upload a photo to i.stack.imgur?

Doorknob of Snow

@ManofSnow click "upload" right here in chat, or in a random post on any site

Man of Snow

There should be a way without posting :P

Doorknob of Snow

Tag in title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21414550/… (Python: Write a function to identify the end of a sentence from a list of text)

yay, that one's actually right!

hichris123

http://hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=yourcolorhere

Options are green, white, yellow, black, brown, blue, cyan, purple, red

Doorknob of Snow

7:06 PM

Tag in title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21414580/… (Javascript: adding values to function as an object)

@hichris123 lol

Man of Snow

@hichris123 In javascript you can simply do body.style.backgroundColor = txt; document.body.innerHTML = txt and if txt was 'blue' then the background would be blue and say blue

hichris123

@ManofSnow Meh, I'm too lazy to do JS.

Man of Snow

@hichris123 I'm too lazy to do php :P I hardly know anything about it

hichris123

This is the whole code by the way: github.com/hichris1234/Server-website/blob/master/color.php

Bart

@DoorknobofSnow why those notifications?

Doorknob of Snow

7:09 PM

can't you just do <body style="background-color: <?= (get the parameter somehow) ?>">? @hichris

hichris123

@ManofSnow I don't know hardly any JS.

Doorknob of Snow

Tag in title: stackoverflow.com/questions/21414620/… (vim: how to get to normal mode when vim/gvim lose focus)

@Bart because I made the spam detector detect more than spam :P

Man of Snow

Why style why not just body bgcolor

Doorknob of Snow

I'm not sure tags in titles is a good idea for my detector though

because there's too many

and it might spam the room

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Hmm, I guess you're right. Lemme try.

Bart

7:10 PM

Myeah, spam is just fine. But I don't really need to be notified of every tag in a title here in chat.

Doorknob of Snow

@Bart yeah, you're probably right. I'm going to remove it.

ok, removed

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow Yes.

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo I thought I read it somewhere. Do you have the link?

Man of Snow

What's the name of that site?... ernysoftware or something?

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Go to the blog.

Undo

7:11 PM

@DoorknobofSnow It's in the Android app announcement blog.

Doorknob of Snow

ah, ok.

Undo

Blog - Stack Exchange: Stack Exchange for Android is here!

David Fullerton on January 27, 2014

This mobile thing will never last, right? We figured if we waited long enough, this whole “mobile application” thing would blow over and everything would go back to the way it used to be. You know, when phones were for calling people, and computers were for typing long, angry rants about how things aren’t the way they used to be.

In retrospect, we may have misread that one a bit. It turns out that even for Stack Exchange mobile is eating the world.

So today we’re excited to announce that Stack Exchange for Android is finally available for download on the Google Play store, for Android phones version 4.0 (ICS) and up: …

Doorknob of Snow

I'm going to eat a yam with frogs, brb

Man of Snow

hichris.erwaysoftware.com 'Welcome to the website! This website consists of a lot of random stuff.' NOT RANDOM

2

Undo

Doorknob must have some kind of random brb generator thingy.

Man of Snow

7:14 PM

I am going to yam a frog with blurs, brb

hichris123

@ManofSnow Heh, what you want me to make a random sentence generator?

Man of Snow

@hichris123 I already did, it's in one of my apps

@hichris what's the charcoal website? I keep forgetting

Undo

@ManofSnow erwaysoftware.com/charcoal

Bart

@ManofSnow kingsford.com

Man of Snow

@Undo You need an image for it :P I'm terrible at designing

rene

7:17 PM

25 comment flags coming up...

Doorknob of Snow

@Undo I actually don't, I just say random things. Although that is a good idea... :D

hichris123

Code = much cleaner now. Thanks @Doorknob! github.com/hichris1234/Server-website/blob/master/color.php

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 You're welcome ;)

hichris123

It now supports all colors known to mankind. With capital letters!

Doorknob of Snow

yay!

Man of Snow

7:20 PM

Why not use just $color instead of (($color=="white") ? 'black' : 'white')

hichris123

@ManofSnow Cause white on white doesn't look pretty. :P

Man of Snow

Make the text the color of the color

:P

hichris123

@ManofSnow Then you couldn't see it! :P

Man of Snow

I couldn't or I wouldn't

Doorknob of Snow

hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=FA0 :P

hichris123

7:22 PM

@DoorknobofSnow What is that?

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 css color code :P

hichris123

I almost feel like converting that then... but how?

Man of Snow

Instead of using style, use bgcolor, so I can make chucknorris a color :)

hichris123

@ManofSnow So demanding. I almost feel like giving you commit access, but it is my website's code. :P

Man of Snow

:P

hichris123

7:26 PM

Updating 440f9dd..4f76c90
Fast-forward
 color.php |   32 ++++++++++++++++----------------

Doorknob of Snow

visit here:

ummm oops

I mean here:

http://54.236.239.138/color.php?color=color=green%22%3E%3C/body%3EI%20hacked%20it!%3Cimg%20src=%22http://pieisgood.org/images/slice.jpg#

hichris123

Really?

How'd you do it?

:P

Oh, extra html...

no spam lately...

7:27 PM

...

Doorknob of Snow

I'm tempted to add the tag detection back :P

I'll add allcaps title detection

Man of Snow

Use this as the code, please! <?php $color = $_GET["color"];
echo '<body bgcolor="$color'.">
<h1 style="font-size:80px; margin-top:100px; height:100%; text-align:center; font-family:sans-serif; color: ' . (($color=="white") ? 'black' : 'white') . ';">'.ucwords($color).'.</h1>
</body>';
?>

Undo

^ this, @hichris123

Man of Snow

It'll let you use words like chucknorris as colors :D

Doorknob of Snow

added allcaps detection.

Man of Snow

7:30 PM

There might be errors in the syntax

You get the idea

@Undo <?php
$color = $_GET["color"];
echo '<body bgcolor="'. $color .'">
<h1 style="font-size:80px; margin-top:100px; height:100%; text-align:center; font-family:sans-serif; color: ' . (($color=="white") ? 'black' : 'white') . ';">'.ucwords($color).'.</h1>
</body>';
?>

hichris123

@Doorknob Try the URL again! :P

@Undo Why? (cc @ManofSnow).

Doorknob of Snow

ok

:O

Man of Snow

@hichris123 It allows words like 'chucknorris'

Since it's not css

Missing digits are treated as 0[...]. An incorrect digit is simply interpreted as 0. For example the values #F0F0F0, F0F0F0, F0F0F, #FxFxFx and FxFxFx are all the same.

hichris123

So is the only difference bgcolor instead of backgroundcolor?

Man of Snow

So every word will be a 'color' :D

yes, and no style

It allows for every combination to work as a 'color'

hichris123

7:34 PM

@ManofSnow github.com/hichris1234/Server-website/commit/…

Pulled already.

Undo

yay!

rene

I believe there is an automatic script for mods to handle comment flags as well...

Man of Snow

What's the URL?

animuson

Nah, we're just not rate-limited when handling them like you are when casting them. ;P

hichris123

@ManofSnow http://hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=orange

@animuson You are! It's in the miliseconds, though.

Man of Snow

7:35 PM

hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=chucknorris

Oh yeah!

hichris123

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Dec 30 '13 at 2:28, by ThiefMaster

JS for mods to bulk delete comments (paste the IDs and run it from your browser's console)

Man of Snow

hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=llama

animuson

That totally just bumped me up to 4.1k flags for the month.

Man of Snow

Llama is greenish or whatever :P

hichris123

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Dec 30 '13 at 2:24, by ThiefMaster

with 4 comments per second it takes some time

Man of Snow

7:36 PM

@animuson What? A person like you should be allowed to make trillions of flags a month

animuson

Flag handling stats - the moderators' reputation.

hichris123

@animuson Give me a diamond! Plz!

animuson

rene

@animuson Happy to help with your rep

Undo

hichris.erwaysoftware.com/…;

Drat!

hichris123

7:38 PM

@animuson Doesn't count...

@Undo I fixed it. :D

github.com/hichris1234/Server-website/commit/…

Doorknob of Snow

for some reason this doesn't work either:

http://hichris.erwaysoftware.com/color.php?color=green%22%20onload=%22alert(%27hacked!%27)

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow He's checking with an if($color != strip_tags($color))

Doorknob of Snow

yes, but I don't have any tags

and I'm not getting the "nice try" message

it just doesn't alert -_-

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Wait... that looks non-HTMLly.

Man of Snow

Then don't use tags

rene

7:42 PM

I'll do some close vote queue tasks now

Man of Snow

@hichris123 They're entities

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow I think I'm getting somewhere: hichris.erwaysoftware.com/…;

animuson

I've already handled 402 flags today. I could totally take the rest of the day off.

Undo

@animuson or you could give your diamond to me and I could handle the rest...

hichris123

@Undo Me too!

animuson

7:44 PM

Until you realize there's no automated script to handle 650 "other" flags?

Undo

@animuson I would handle all of them.

Every. Single. One.

hichris123

@Undo Better? :P

if($color != strip_tags($color) || strpos($color,'style') !== false || strpos($color,'alert') !== false) {

Undo

Grrr.

Aaargh!

Doorknob of Snow

gah!

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow We should do something bad to his server.

hichris123

7:46 PM

I have the power of commit access. :P

Undo

But I dunno if we can :P

Man of Snow

Instead of typing alert

hichris123

@Undo Please don't make me pay actual money.

Man of Snow

Type al+ert

'al'+'ert'

:P

Undo

@hichris123 Hah, I won't :P

rene

7:47 PM

Suppose I wanted to have a question I just casted the last close vote on to be deleted, now. Would that be possible?

Doorknob of Snow

brb, the monkeys won't stop chirping on the ice

hichris123

You realize I could (somehow) IP ban you from my site @Undo & @Doorknob? :P

Man of Snow

@hichris123 That's not enough, they'd turn off proxy

Ban their Mac Addresses!

hichris123

@ManofSnow I don't have it. :(

The heck?

- [28/Jan/2014:19:48:21 +0000] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 4030 "-" "masscan/1.0 (https://github.com/robertdavidgraham/masscan)"

Undo

Eh?

Bart

7:51 PM

Take the entire site offline!! ... wait

hichris123

TCP port scanner, spews SYN packets asynchronously, scanning entire Internet in under 5 minutes.

^ That's what masscan is.

Undo

Wow.

rene

They knock on your door

hichris123

Hmm, which one of you did that... gets out nonexistent mod hammer again

;)

Jan Dvorak

I guess "entire internet" means IPv4? IPv6 would take much longer...

hichris123

7:54 PM

Wow: [28/Jan/2014:19:45:55 +0000] "GET /color.php?color=%22%3EHaha!%20I%20still%20hacked%20you!

/color.php?color=%22%22%22%22%22%22%22%22%22%22

^ I bet those two were you @Doorknob.

Man of Snow

What font is the SO logo?

Bart

23

Q: What font is used in the Stack Overflow logo?

What font is used in the StackOverflow logo?

@ManofSnow ^^^^

hichris123

Who wants help me flag comments/posts/whatever?

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