The more I think about this hot question thing, the more I think it should be less about individual questions, and more about smaller sites being able to advertise questions they choose and think are good on the sidebar of all sites. That would definitely be far superior and allow us to direct folks to quality content
(rather than flash in the pan nonsense that appeals to the lowest common denominator by merit of it being a soft question that every Alice, Bob, and Chris think they can answer)
@DoorknobofSnow I have heard that referenced, but I didn't understand it. Is there an easily digestible (to the non-programmer) summary on a meta or something?
Basically, someone came up with the idea that they would take bad SO questions and have people unhelpfully answer them. ...you can probably figure out how that ended up. Everyone started posting answers, and then everyone wanted to copy it so about 90% of questions on the active page were code trolling for a while... :/
@jmac tl;dr: someone came up with an idea for a new game. Some folks thought it was the best thing to ever happen to CG. Some other folks thought it was the worst thing to ever happen to SE. They all agreed it was the fault of those meddling kids the hot list. Some edits were made and they all lived happily ever after.
(but really though, I don't get the purpose of hot questions. It seems like the CMs love them, but the communities themself don't, so either you guys are seeing something we aren't, or there is great room for improvement there)
@hichris123 I'm not convinced there is a good implementation. Visit Reddit, or HackerNews - any time you expose "popular", it generates a feedback loop that results in mountains of crap.
Since the code trolling episode, the site's actually gotten a lot more active, which is pretty much the only positive thing about that code trolling disaster :O
I think @jmac's idea of allowing sites to choose (in one way or another) what gets put in that area has merit. Although it could possibly result in less actually interesting question.
@Shog9 Hmm, you have an idea there. However, we're different than Reddit or any forum... I think there's two problems: 1) hotness algorithm isn't too good at detecting real hotness and 2) the infux of new users makes the question become more hot and create more moderation problems.
@Shog9 Right, which is why letting the community choose which questions best represent them would be: a) less database intensive, b) much friendlier to communities, c) much easier for communities to help control to advertise their site appropriately
@jadarnel27 We've done some very limited piloting there in the (now somewhat distant) past. It doesn't work. Very few people want to sit around and curate a list that'll only matter for a short time.
This is the same reason why sites don't get control over the automated twitter feed, btw. There are a few people who actually do care enough to tweet good, new questions periodically, but... Most folks only care when something they don't like pops up.
It's all fun for about 2 hours, and then... Wow, yeah, this is boring.
Community moderation isn't fun. It isn't intended to be. The goal is to make the burden of community moderation small enough to rally people to it since it is worth it to create the end result.
If it does default to some mechanical process, that's fine. But the process should be considered. As it is, the current hotness algorithm slams small sites in waves and really screws up self-moderation until it cools down. One hot question brings in visitors who vote way more, and end up pushing more bad questions up the list (specifically ones that merit closing), and that drives more people to start voting badly.
@hichris123 Define "real" hotness. Warning: if your definition doesn't result in a feedback loop when folks follow the link and like what they find, you've failed.
@Shog9 Why is the focus on 'hotness' rather than on valuable questions that aren't driven by ease-of-answers, but rather 'quality of content'? We want to gather experts, not opinions.
I would be happy with determining quality by number of active top users from a community who upvoted a given question. Or at least that strongly weighted downvotes from the more active community members. And definitely tosses out anything with more than one close vote.
The info pages of chat rooms assigned to this site appear to use some sort of mutant offspring between the default chat theme and the site-specific one, which is kind of an eyesore.
It might be a little much to ask that that page look as awesome as the in-room theme does for the site, but it wou...
We're about to get our first sysadmin to look after a multitude of SQL Servers which have previously been awkwardly looked after by a mixture of the developers and IT support. It's long overdue, and we've been trying to persuade the higher-ups to agree to one for years.
Well, finally they did but...
Can setInterval result in other scripts in the page blocking?
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^ Wow, you sure are creative with your edit names. :P
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We will find it out when it does IPO in next year or two.
I mean, eventually it will go float, unless it 1) bankrupts or 2) gets bought by another company.
1) Don't think that will happen, but it is just a personal opinion.
2) If another company buys SE, it would be the like of Microsoft or ...
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this is downvoted, I am book marking this here so I have the proof, just like the thread in regards to the other C++ room - let the time prove who is right
I figured out how to automagically get new questions from the real time network question feed with phantomjs, now it's a simple matter of doing something with that data.
...interesting how cut by relative score could turn lemming voting into cure from disease. Passers by tend to vote only 1-2 top answers (short attention span), eventually decreasing amount that contributes to hotness. Take a regular question with answers scored like [5,4,1,0,0 <no cut, all 5 answers "hot">]. Lemmings attack would turn it into something like [30,8, <cut, only 2 answers are "hot"> 1,0,0,0,0,0]. @jmac - would you like this sort of a self-correction? Note btw how it gives a way for community regulars to further fine-tune things by responsible voting on lower scored answers — gnat45 mins ago
tl;dr
We already tried supporting those questions, we even gave them their own site. Sadly, it didn't work out. C'est la vie.
3 years ago, a Stack Exchange site called Not Programming Related came out of Area51, the Stack Exchange staging zone. NPR was supposed to be a site where questions t...
I will guess it is @TimStone. Let's hope I'm right. At any rate, searching for close votes (VoteTypeId = 6) returns nothing after the changes in June 2013. How the heck do I search for Close Votes now?
In case it's @TimPost, this issue came up when trying to answer this question. Which you can answer better than me (or you can fix and I can fumble to answer).
Over the past year, a lot of meta data has been changed or added to the system:
Review tasks and results
Duplicate links (separate from close votes and ad-hoc editing conventions)
Close votes as a distinct type of flag (previously they were stored as votes)
However, none of this is in the pub...
@animuson I'd even upvoted that. Memory, you have failed me again! Thankfully I have a youthful mod with a mind like a steel trap to assist me in my quest for perfect recall. Thanks animuson!
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Is there any way to search for questions that have a specific tag and only that lonely tag?
In other words, I'd like to be able to do something like the following to find questions that have a single tag and no other:
[mytag] tagcount:1
This would be very useful for tag cleanup situations to ...
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Originator: asdf_enel_hak
First Heard: February 3rd, 2013 (Deleted. >10k only. Screenshot for mortals)
Cultural Height: Oscillates between then and now
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@rene . Unsure if that was a bot response. I was just saying that I was implying the same thing you just said - ie "the spammer is trying to reverse engineering the current filter"
@rene there is ton of spam that never reach the sites, what we see is only spam that got over the auto filters. What @SPArchaeologist is trying to say is the spammer is trying to learn those auto filters and get past them. No bot involved.
@rene - do you still have the link to the repository for the spam detector? wanted to see how it is implemented. If I got it right, you basically have a monkey script running while you are in chat right?
Can setInterval result in other scripts in the page blocking?
I'm working on a project to convert a Gmail related bookmarklet into a Google Chrome extension. The bookmarklet uses the gmail greasemonkey API to interact with the gmail page. The JavaScript object for the API is one of the last par...
We will find it out when it does IPO in next year or two.
I mean, eventually it will go float, unless it 1) bankrupts or 2) gets bought by another company.
1) Don't think that will happen, but it is just a personal opinion.
2) If another company buys SE, it would be the like of Microsoft or ...
what have u tried? u need to show what u tried to get answer n00b
tl;dr
We already tried supporting those questions, we even gave them their own site. Sadly, it didn't work out. C'est la vie.
3 years ago, a Stack Exchange site called Not Programming Related came out of Area51, the Stack Exchange staging zone. NPR was supposed to be a site where questions t...
Over the past year, a lot of meta data has been changed or added to the system:
Review tasks and results
Duplicate links (separate from close votes and ad-hoc editing conventions)
Close votes as a distinct type of flag (previously they were stored as votes)
However, none of this is in the pub...
The class below is named PorterAlgo and has various functions for stemming....
class NewString {
public String str;
NewString() {
str = "";
}
}
public class PorterAlgo {
String Clean( String str ) {
int last = str.length();
new C...
Is there any way to search for questions that have a specific tag and only that lonely tag?
In other words, I'd like to be able to do something like the following to find questions that have a single tag and no other:
[mytag] tagcount:1
This would be very useful for tag cleanup situations to ...
Meme: Oscillation
Originator: asdf_enel_hak
First Heard: February 3rd, 2013 (Deleted. >10k only. Screenshot for mortals)
Cultural Height: Oscillates between then and now
Definition: The repetitive variation, typically in time, of some measure about a central value (often a point of equilibriu...
