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Holy carp that's a lot of spam
 
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3 messages moved to Chimney
07:58
@JourneymanGeek and S3?
@JourneymanGeek three? How?
"lots" in my book is... well, 100? 200?
@ShadowWizardChasingStars I bet his vocabulary is like "one, two, lots". Not enough sleep to count further than that.
@M.A.R. yup, instead of sleeping he's watching big S in sequence.
It's a monk thing. We're not expected to understand
I can't wait till I forget to announce it's my tenth anniversary
08:09
@M.A.R. set notification in your smart watch.
My watches are all dumb
08:22
@SpencerG The most crucial point is how hard it is to instruct new users to understand what our community is actually about. It's not clear enough for them to understand, and that is why thousands of posts are closed every day. Also, the entire community's effort to filter content is decreasing because we don't have the right tools or the community entry point is not effectively doing its job in showing what Stack Overflow is for. — CypherPotato Mar 9 at 17:03
Wait, is that true? Did burnout increase in the past months?
(My impression is burnout has often been almost equal to newfound naive interest in moderation, excepting certain events that caused an exodus or two)
@ShadowWizardChasingStars I moved the move messages
@ShadowWizardChasingStars There will be one, and another series with one of the other critical role campaigns - but I don't time travel so I don't know
74?
@JourneymanGeek I don't see it anywhere
@ShadowWizardChasingStars cause I moved those too
cause there were too many move messages
@M.A.R. I'd say its more the factors were burnout and people quitting need addressing
But the move messages shouldn't be in Chimney, they're not Smokey reports.
Maybe trash?
08:38
eh, maybe
But it was just a way to neaten things up a bit
People are going to complain no matter what you do :D
08:53
@JourneymanGeek especially me! ;)
09:25
Mostly you! :D
basking in the respect
:-D
 
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12:40
Can only hope the one manually reporting did mistake due to other spam answer, that was never reported.
trolling @rene @Mith @Spev @Sonic @RyanM
 
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13:57
por favor not spam
14:37
daamn, once again I open a promising HNQ and all (hopefully) fun parts are already removed :/
@Džuris umm.... hi? Welcome to Tavern! ;)
Tea, or coffee?
OK then!
thanks, tea be good
@Džuris FUN IS BANNED! ALL HAIL FUN!
14:53
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@Džuris awesome!
If you want special brands, ask @Eleeza she's real wizard with tea. :D
@Džuris so, after the welcome, what parts you consider "fun"?
passionate arguing in comments :D
it's never the same once it's in the chat :/
15:07
lol
Well that's not what comments are generally for
15:27
scaler.com have been increasing their spam footprint and I've gone over some old posts of theirs which were not obviously spam at the time, but are now
@tripleee first two are the same link
... 4 5 6 7 ...
... 8 9
@Mithical ouch, sorry about that, my tabs are mixed up
notice also the posting patterns, the oldest two are from Jan 25, the next two from Feb 25, the rest from today
6 was edited to remove the spam link, not really sure if it makes sense to flag that any longer
Ryan Donovan on March 13, 2023
API gateways, service mesh, and GraphQL, oh my!
15:54
@tripleee sorry I don't think it's correct to flag all answers having a link to certain domain just because some are spam. I'm not flagging, but as usual, staying away and those who agree can flag of course.
> We spoke with the CTO of Kong and they said their tools are important
@KevinB sounds like another part of April Fools joke. Interesting.
King Kong now in SE?
Maybe this year's joke is that they do it few weeks before the actual time. haha
16:12
@ShadowWizardChasingStars there are two returning users who have been doing this since October; I have not nominated posts by any other users
Fair, but I still don't see obvious spam in most.
they have some non-spam posts which however all seem to be ChatGPT-generated
@ShadowWizardChasingStars it wasn't obvious until today, when they started spamming links to "recursion in C" on many questions which were about other types of recursion, like recursive DNS queries
here is the full metasmoke history for this domain metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/domains/93477
(sorry for the bogus links and resulting repeated edits; my keyboard is going crazy)
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If question get bounty on main meta, main asker of question get notification like - question you have some bounty or like similar ?
I don't think they do, but I'm not sure
16:18
do you have a post which deserves a bounty, so we can experiment? (-:
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@tripleee No but, I just start bounty :D
@4b0 no, there's no "Bounty Started" notification. But in case of new answers or comments, OP will get notified and notice.
And in case you wonder, this has been asked for many times, without any success of course.
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Q: After ten years why are we still not telling folks that their questions have been bountied by good samaritans?

uhohIf somebody bountifies my question I would like to know about it because I would like to keep an eye on the activity there. If somebody bountifies a question I'd answered, especially if they are asking for more details, I'd certainly like to know about it so I can add some details to my apparentl...

heh I was sure the footer is actually going to stay until April Fools.
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16:35
@ShadowWizardChasingStars Thanks, I search for that on meta but unable to find. Week search keyword.
 
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@JourneymanGeek I have trouble parsing that sentence sensei
@Džuris Clickbait needs to be subtle, and you need to seem oblivious.
Like if I'm posting an HNQ on Seasoned Advice, I need to ask "Oh my goodness, what is this white powder that makes food salty?" and everyone will visit the question to feel good about themselves for identifying salt, only to find out you add meth to food to enhance the flavor
The salt drags them in, the meth keeps them engaged
Speaking of salt
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Q: ChatGPT seems to be better than Stack Overflow, both in speed and accuracy—what does this mean for us?

Dong LiI have signed up for an account at OpenAI and asked ChatGPT a programming question, namely: How to list all files in an Android device recursively with Java And in an instant, it generated an answer in less than a second and the answer was correct. Given that most users post to Stack Overflow and...

The guy didn't touch a chord there. They smashed the violin on their head.
 
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To be clear, I still think long manual bans are a good thing, for a few reasons.
1. Automated bans from suggesting edits are fixed at 7 days. There are users who repeatedly hit these bans and continue to suggest bad edits even after coming off one.
2. There are users who skirt around automated suggested edit bans by interspersing a few good edits, as the conditions for the ban are public.
3. Robo-approvals are a problem and prevent the automated ban from otherwise kicking in if the edits were correctly rejected.
4. There are users who have made quite a few good contributions to gain the reputation to edit posts but have shown they don't understand the tag wiki rules (that they should be instructions on how to use the tag) or repeatedly contribute plagiarized content. In the latter case, due to their long history, I'd want to levy a short site suspension for the plagiarism while leaving a much longer one on suggesting tag wikis. The former isn't suspension-worthy but is worthy of a more pointed block

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