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EKons

16:00

you seriously hate hats? :(

you can turn 'em off

Andras Deak

that won't magically cancel all the disruption

Tinkeringbell

@AndrasDeak You can just stay and refuse to be disrupted?

Andras Deak

if everyone acted like a reasonable adult I wouldn't mind

@Tinkeringbell I mean disruption on main

EKons

"on main"? :P

Tinkeringbell

You can refuse to be disrupted?

Andras Deak

16:01

it's only adequate to have ale spilled everywhere in a tavern

Henders

Undefined variable 'main' on line 7389250

EKons

omg, how am I supposed to compile that now...

Andras Deak

I've been meaning to go back to my home ~~planet~~ server anyway

doppelgreener

@Henders [screaming]

Tinkeringbell

@AndrasDeak NOOO! :P

MEE

16:03

Hi, I am sorry to interrupt your conversation but @Tinkeringbell congrats to your mod position and could you suspend me for test please? (on main) I would be interested to see how the site looks like for a suspended user.

Andras Deak

you won't be able to run for mod for a year! D:

I don't think playing with suspensions is a good idea

EKons

hm, not sure if we want to suspend people for testing

MEE

Nope, not if the suspension was marked as test. They wrote that

Bart

@MEE that's going to be a nope

EKons

yeah, let's rather not

Andras Deak

16:04

[citation needed], not that I'm an authority, and Tink's more than capable of refusing on her own

and myself

Probably I'll be the only one in the office that will look busy trying to get hats on SE...

Andras Deak

it just sounds all wrong :P

MEE

I mean here: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/274114/…: > It shouldn't really be 54, since at least two of them were posted after a candidate (already a moderator) got another moderator to suspend him "For Science"

Tinkeringbell

@MEE Thank you. I think I can't do that though.

Bart

I should search for it, but looooong looong ago, a suspension was handed out as a test, which didn't go over well.

Andras Deak

16:05

@MEE ah

MEE

ok if you think it is no good idea :( [I know it is strange to hear somebody cry about not being suspended but ok]

Andras Deak

please don't cry

Tinkeringbell

@MEE Educated guess? Site will look much like it will when you have only 1 rep ;) meta.stackexchange.com/q/256618/369802

MEE

No not really, that was just exaggerated (because so many people "cry" about being suspended)

Andras Deak

phew ;)

MEE

16:08

@Tinkeringbell yeah that is what I know already but I just would also like to see this mod-message things. I am "very curious" in this way, having read so many meta.se posts about all types of mod features I will (probably) never see.

Bart

If I recall correctly, it was this test suspension which caused some trouble in the past: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/133291/…

EKons

here's a summary of what a suspended user can do: not edit their profile (although network-wide changes are reflected), not post, not favorite, not accept, not do anything that requires >1 rep, not chat (at least in this server)

Tinkeringbell

@MEE Yeah, I can imagine that... those are serious tools for serious business though, so we can't just use them for everyone who's just curious (would create a nice workload as well, I can imagine).

MEE

Yeah ok, I see it. Sorry have to leave now.

doppelgreener

Requesting suspension here as a test is a bit like asking "please shoot me because I'm curious what it's like" or "please put me in prison so I can find out what it's like".

Bart

16:10

Or ... or ... just do something which warrants a suspension

doppelgreener

There is a lot, lot more to that request than "please do this thing".

and myself

the "annotation" though...

MEE

You mean ... upvoting all your posts???

Or posting cheese spam all over meta.se??

EKons

well... you don't really want to do that, do you?

Derpy

oh, right. It is time to start posting random comments on meta

Rory Alsop

16:14

@MEE mmmm - cheese!

EKons

@RoryAlsop I keep the mmm for myself :P

Derpy

otherwise, what will I delete when the time for hats comes?

rene

@Derpy for a hat?

Andras Deak

>:|

Henders

-_-

Rory Alsop

16:16

@rene only 1583030 seconds to go!

Derpy

@rene nope, to have trash to delete when the usual "delete x comments" hat will be available.

and myself

🤚:)

EKons

ah, 2 years ago, a mod somewhere posted something like "and if I see anybody doing stuff just for hats, I'm going to suspend them until WB ends"

:P

Derpy

and we saw how well that worked

MEE

@EKons Thanks now I know what to do.

Derpy

16:17

was it the Naruto hat? Or the Wukong one?

and myself

Well, that incident on a certain site when anyone voting each other... was it?

EKons

talking about the message that mod posted?

Derpy

@andmyself at which point it became an incident? I remember it being even advertised on chat, almost like it was expected / a feature

doppelgreener

I imagine staff have gotten better at making sure everything still works even if people are doing things only for hats

Shadow Wizard

17:15

@EKons it happens when innocent testing becomes abusing of the tested feature or harming others in the process. See Also: @nicael

EKons

yeah, I remember that

:P

Andras Deak

what happened to nicael?

EKons

oh, very old stuff

Andras Deak

ah.

Shadow Wizard

17:29

@EKons you were around back then?

EKons

I was, but I was essentially a totally different person back then who didn't know what the heck is Meta.SE :P

and definitely wasn't ever aware of that case

Shadow Wizard

@AndrasDeak month suspension for... Eh... Causing a drop in reputation for dozens of users. Some dropped to 1 rep and lost all privileges for a whole day until rep recalc fixed it. I lost "only" 20k rep. (for a day, my reputation tab kept showing negative number for years after that ;))

Andras Deak

Did they do that as a mod? Or some bug?

Shadow Wizard

Abusing a possible bug, yeah.

Something with accepting and unaccepting with a script.

Since it was made so quickly, rep synch didn't trigger.

Andras Deak

17:44

ah

thanks

Shadow Wizard

18:04

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Q: Gaming system with accepts

Well, it is not really efficient, but gives some reps (tried two days ago, only 41 reps :-) ). I have, for example, 50 question where I had accepted answers. And 101 reps, because each accept gives you 2 reps. Then I offer 100 rep bounty (or lose this rep by some other way, e.g. downvotes), unac...

Andras Deak

18:17

ah...I can see why they wouldn't be amused, thanks

MEE

19:48

Hi @Catija maybe you have already seen but Monica and I agreed on a better worded lock reason and Monica updated the answer to your post.

EKons

20:15

actually, you aren't notified if an answer to your question gets edited

MEE

@EKons yes I know but I thought she might have already seen...

EKons

just saying, I assumed you might've been referring to some sort of inbox notification

MEE

---
BTW I have some ideas how an improved Area 51 might look like. I know that SE has not the resources to do this, therefore I thought of proposing that some community members develop this as an Open Source software.

I just wanted to ask how you (room visitors) feel about this, before I ask it on MSE

EKons

20:31

@MEE can you please share your ideas? btw, I think Area 51 works pretty well as it is, currently

MEE

@EKons I would share my ideas in my MSE post. I don't think they are neccessary to discuss the general idea. Oh and even the SE team says that Area 51 is flawed. I am looking for a reference post right now...

EKons

sure, A51 is flawed in a sense, given that its main site still works on SE 1.0

MEE

Here is one: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/263494/…

EKons

del-pls 20k cell meta.stackexchange.com/questions/318750/… (cc @ShadowWizard @rene)

rene

already voted on

Tinkeringbell

20:42

Poofed

MEE

Another post from Robert Cartaino: area51.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/…

Andras Deak

21:48

good old Garisto at it again

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell well done! :D

@AndrasDeak lol wonder where @user127 is gone to... ;(

Andras Deak

You mean reuse772?

EKons

he probably meant the pingable one... :P

(nope, can't see the joke :P)

rene

22:50

→ 3 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard

@AndrasDeak nah... suer1772127

How come it is so empty now? Happy Hour approaching!

Tinkeringbell

Happy bedtime is approaching too ;)

Movie is almost over

rene

gnat

23:25

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