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user315433

12:59 AM

And that quadratic equation question has 116K views...

user315433

2:59 AM

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A: VBScript Custom Button?

damn yieu! this doth not be senseful! -Shakespeare

user315433

If Shakespeare wrote a play about Visual Basic, would it be a tragedy or a comedy?

user202362

3:19 AM

Sometimes I want to pet or hug the chicken, so when she's around, I will squatting down and put my hands out. Sometimes she squat down or come closer and accept my advances. Sometimes she runs away, when I chase after her, she flight all across the backyard not wanting me to catch her. If I insist on pet or hug her despite the fact she's running away from me in fear, this indicates of some sorts of harassment from me towards my hen.

user202362

Although this is just between me & my hen. I am not sure my pet chicken will come close to a stranger.

Disney

4:24 AM

Maybe your chicken is tsundere

rene

5:55 AM

→ 19 messages moved to Chimney

Shadow Wizard

9:06 AM

One of the more useless bounties I've ever seen: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/285889/…

Tim didn't reply to any comment for almost a year. No progress whatsoever. Why @gnat thinks a bounty will help??

Just one of the grand plans that like most others is buried deep in their TODO list.

</rant-and-out>

rene

Back in their mind they want to revisit that so much but in reality it is not going to happen in 6 to 8 ages. Keep a low profile is a strategy.

Shadow Wizard

@rene yeah... the problem is they come with an awesome plan, but then let it sit there while more urgent things arise. And there is endless stream of those "urgent things".

Maybe when SE will expand and hire 1000 employees it will help push those "non urgent" plans ahead.

rene

9:24 AM

I don't think that will help, it will only generate more great ideas so you'll need 2000 devs to get all those implemented. It is like adding more roads to conquer traffic jams. It attracts more cars ...

Shadow Wizard

9:37 AM

hehe, true. In Israel we just added brand new road to Jerusalem not long ago, they promised it will shorten the time to arrive in like 50% and guess what? It just made things worse. lol

Something like $1B wasted for nothing.

rene

9:50 AM

@ShadowWizard well, Rotterdam is known for its traffic jams on the ring. To make things worse they are going to close the Maastunnel for two years, adding at least 30,000 extra cars per day on the other roads ...

Shadow Wizard

@rene whoa... sounds bad. Are you affected as well?

rene

@ShadowWizard nope, only if I need be in the center of the city and that is also doable with public transport

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard one of the more ungrammatical sentences I've ever seen

Shadow Wizard

throwing grammatical sentence on @M.A.R.

@rene so public transport is not affected? (i.e. arriving on time?)

rene

10:14 AM

@ShadowWizard maybe the bus will have issues but Rotterdam has a great metro network, using their own tunnels.

Shadow Wizard

@rene cool... that's something we will never have here. :(

There are plans, but the cost is just insane.

rene

there are plenty of options for public transport, rail, tram, bus, boats.

Shadow Wizard

@rene we have rail, tram, and bus, just no metro with tunnels which is the ideal way...

M.A.R.

10:32 AM

@rene what about Santa's deeds?

gnat

@ShadowWizard I just got some meta poo to burn from recent answer on NN...

M.A.R.

*deer

gnat

in Discussion on question by Shog9: Net Neutrality and Stack Overflow / Stack Exchange, 2 hours ago, by gnat

^^^ after we are done with Net Neutrality, is there any chance to do something about this old forgotten initiative?

Shadow Wizard

@gnat hehe, see you really admire your meta rep... ;)

Don't you want to reach 10k so you can see deleted posts and delete questions by yourself? @gnat

BTW how you noticed my message? You were not pingable...

gnat

@ShadowWizard 30k repz I spen on bounties at MSE kinda answer your question - I am not interested in that. As for noticing your message I just occasionally passed by tavern and noticed my name in red

Shadow Wizard

10:43 AM

@gnat oh, so no fancy tool to auto detect when someone mentions you. Fair enough! :)

M.A.R.

@gnat burning poo? So that's what this smell is?

I thought it was coming from @Shadow's den

Shadow Wizard

11:03 AM

@M.A.R. no, only pee there. And it doesn't smell!

:D

gnat

@M.A.R. hmm this smell feels pretty net neutral to me

Shadow Wizard

never guessed @gnat can be so funny :D

Derpy

11:22 AM

Shadow Wizard

11:41 AM

@Derpy who?

Mithrandir

2:02 PM

@ShadowWizard - I'm trying to have a new discussion on the problem.

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir as I said, I don't think that just because the original discussion is old we need new discussion.

If I'm wrong, CM/dev can easily reopen it anyway and post official answer.

Mithrandir

Talking to Pops

Shadow Wizard

(since you don't look for unofficial response, it's not relevant for ordinary users including moderators.)

Mithrandir

2:15 PM

Also, @Shadow, a discussion about what is okay in profiles and when it's okay to nuke a user are... not the same.

Disney

@ShadowWizard you have an interesting answer on Is spam in the “about me” field a reason to worry? [duplicate]

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir not sure... if it's OK to post self promotion in profile, it means the account should not be deleted, aka "innocent until proven guilty"

Mithrandir

Like I said, we've been discussing this for hours in the Teacher's Lounge.

Shadow Wizard

@Disney long years passed... I was still meta n00b back then. ;)

Disney

Apparently Jeff also agreed (see accepted answer), but that was long ago

Shadow Wizard

2:26 PM

@Mithrandir so how come you didn't get official response there? CM's are not part of that room?

(i.e. only moderators?)

Mithrandir

They aren't always there, no. And yes, Pops was there. But it's always good to have a meta post that we can refer to. (And the discussion basically ended with we need a meta.)

Shadow Wizard

hmm... well let Pops (or other CM) decide what to do. And I still think it's better to have it all in one place, not scattered among different discussions.

Mithrandir

It's been reopened now, anyway.

Shadow Wizard

oh well :)

rene

2:57 PM

dupe voting ...

Sklivvz

Hey @Oded how are you? do you remember the superuser seo video? do you have a link handy?

Journeyman Geek

0_0

There was a superuser SEO video?

Sklivvz

well someone contacted us with a video on how to improve superuser's SEO. it was genuinely hilarious

user315433

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^ that

3:06 PM

watching now...

rene

this SEO?

Oded

@Sklivvz ah, I see you were sorted by the Tavern crowd :)

I am still working on getting our phone number up there.

Sklivvz

You need to remind Nick to renew the domain name for more than a couple of years. Google looks at that to determine how long you will stay in business.

user315433

But... how long is SO going to stay in business, anyway?

rene

Until the domain expires I guess?

Sklivvz

3:13 PM

Yeah, Google looks at that to take you seriously.

(according to our SEO expert above)

Oded

I'll see if GoDaddy has any deals.

user315433

4:20 PM

> A typical StackExchange moment - correct and helpful edit made by low rep user rejected by others for no good reason. Overruled, clowns! pic.twitter.com/aOVBDLEBsL -- Tom Brossman at 3:19 AM - 4 Jul 2017

user315433

An interesting example. Were the reviewers correct to reject?

user315433

To me it looks like editing in another answer, so I'd reject too.

user315433

But the OP is correct in that it improves the post.

user315433

So... is there a way to reconcile this?

user315433

A special category of suggested edits that can be approved/rejected only by the author of the post?

user315433

4:27 PM

The edit/review link: askubuntu.com/review/suggested-edits/728156

user315433

Or should the reviewers simply trust that the editor is correct about the new location of dot-file? It's not the kind of stuff that someone would make up for fun.

user315433

Anyway, we have a new blog post with familiar title Why i hate stack overflow [sic]

Oded

It boils down to "I hate them because they want me to make an effort".

user315433

Not fleshed out enough. 1 and 1/2 stars at most.

user315433

Can you believe there is no Unicode character "half-filled star"?

Oded

4:35 PM

Just imagine the same article only about architecture or law or medicine.

Bart

"and they don’t accept that new programmers want everything soon and easy, without even trying to do things" ... and that's a problem?

user315433

The best part of that article is in the footer:

user315433

Potential payout of $0.76 in 7 days, whatever that means.

user315433

Imagine SO had a feature like this...

Oded

4:39 PM

ugh

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Q: The problem with extrinsic motivation

TL;DR: Stack Exchange favors standard, fast, and complete answers at the expense of novel, creative, and excellent answers. This bias results directly from reputation ratings, badges and other extrinsic motivations, which form the core of the system and can not be removed. Therefor, the quality o...

bjb568

@Oded Why not deemphasize reputation? Right now it’s everywhere and you get notifications when it changes, which seems kind of excessive.

Disney

Heh, I should probably write an article "Why i hate stack overflow haters" on there

Oded

@bjb568 it is what made SO the success it is. Perhaps at higher rep levels it would make sense.

Disney

and post it on meta... and meta-effect... ka-ching

@Walt need another "Authors have to pay when people like you downvote their post."

Bart

4:58 PM

I would suggest you go discuss that here: expertflow.wordpress.com The person who authors that blog (but really doesn't author that blog, but actually does) would love to discuss with you.

user315433

Is that like a clearinghouse of "hate SO" posts?

Disney

I read Joe Blow's name. I doubt myself now.

Though, the writer should have activated ClearType >_<

user315433

6:17 PM

This should be an edit instead of another answer, but you could not edit because you have two accounts now. Please use the contact us form to request account merge. — Walt 22 secs ago

user315433

I tend to say things like this, but would the merge happen if both accounts are unregistered?

user315433

Or should it be "register this account first, then request the merge"?

bjb568

6:32 PM

@Oded It seems to favor quantity over quality, so at this stage it's less important to have it.

user315433

8:03 PM

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Machiavelli

Proposed Q&A site for strategies for technical guys that want to comunicate and convince marketing and business people.

Currently in definition.

user315433

Was Machiavelli a technical guy dealing with marketing people?

rene

9:11 PM

delv-pls 20K facebook meta.stackexchange.com/questions/298001/… /cc @Bart @ShadowWizard

user315433

Nobody wasted time here. More announcements coming this week as things move forward. — Tim Post ♦ 9 hours ago

user315433

Stack Exchange Quality Project is like Speed (the movie), comparing #1 and #2.

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user315433

So I'm waiting for UB40 to show up on Meta somehow...

user315433

UB40 - Tell Me Is It True - Guns in the Ghetto -1997 - Lyrics

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user315433

9:42 PM

user315433

Strategic voting... grgarside gets elected anyway, and I'll take a Charcoal member over a 20K user who downvoted 8 times in total.

user315433

Of course, when choosing 3 out of 4 and seeing that one of 4 hasn't done anything mod-related... there isn't really a choice.

user315433

9:57 PM

Not buying the pretext of "I had the same issue with my site"... the issue being "Android HttpURLConnection getContentLength() return wrong result".

user315433

10:19 PM

> Arrogance on the part of the meritorious is even more offensive to us than the arrogance of those without merit: for merit itself is offensive.

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