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@SmokeDetector 1 min and still alive? SO is still on weekend mode
@James Wow. That was a nice morning read, lol.
@JasonC It's the OP's cat I feel most sorry for...
14:08
Wow, that user is now suggesting that I have inappropriate relations with my own mother ...
classy
¿Y tu mamá también?
:D
@Bart "there's no reason to delete it" Not now, but there was - there's been a lot of heat removed.
And by heat, I mean fast and free flowing obscenities that made the Devil blush.
@James job done then.
15 hours ago, by Alexis King
@bjb568 Rule number one of the internet: you don't read the comments.
14:15
@Braiam Now you tell me
but...what about...
And look how he turned out.
@Bart Hals maul du Hurensohn, niemand hat dich gefragt! — Why_SE_bulling_new_users 16 secs ago
Jetzt auf Deutsch. Toll
Pls flag that
Is it rude, or is it nc
14:20
rude
"Shut up SOB, nobody asked you anything"
google told me something more rude, flagged though
Must. Find. Long. Thin. Images.
Hahaha, Shadow just reopened the post :D
@ShadowWizard you might want to check the edit history there. Or ... perhaps you shouldn't. It explains the downvotes. ;)
No idea what was going on here, but this is not a dupe and can't see the reason for the DV rain. Reopened and +1'ed. — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago
14:24
@Bart I quickly saw the first revision, still wasn't that bad
:facepalm: This is why we need deleted comments leaving for >10K
@James downvoting a question just because of bad/rude comments is wrong. I admit doing it myself sometimes, but it's still wrong.
It started off well enough @ShadowWizard ... the intermediate phase had some issues
"Some".
@ShadowWizard I agree entirely. That is not how it went down
14:26
@Bart hmm.... think I better skip that phase then :)
Let me find a better dup
@rene yeah, was doing it when pings interrupted :D
today i receive more than 6 downvotes but not serially. i'm sure that this downvotes came from a single user. Does the system revert back the downvotes? Is there any punishment for these type of users?
Oh sure. @rene just wants to close EVERYTHING
@ShadowWizard That question should probably go away or that user be given a cooldown suspension anyways. Even if it's an OK question, right now it can attract nothing good. Your reopening of it made sense philosophically but is probably just going to be more fuel on the fire.
14:26
@AvinashRaj wait and see.
I would have at least waited a day or two before reopening it.
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Q: Undetectable MICRO Serial Downvoting. What is it? What to do? What the heck!

Andrea LigiosPrologue Everyone knows Serial Downvoting... even the luckiest user with enough rep gets hit by this plague at least once, soon or later: some noob gets angry against another user for some reason and starts downvoting questions and answers of his new enemy. A script running every night detects...

@Bart Pas op joh, ander gaan we ff verder in het nederlands...
Fwiw I voted it up too, it's a fine question in the current state.
@rene zoals we op z'n Twentsch zeggen: "Bring it on!!"
14:28
lol
@JasonC disagree. I've recently seen a possible troll cooling down all on his own and becoming contributing user on MSE.
@ShadowWizard I thought every contributing user on MSE was a troll.
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Expired UK Passport number by Wendy Sleat on travel.stackexchange.com
@Bart Du bist ein Hurensohn du scheiss Schweizer — Why_SE_bulling_new_users 43 secs ago
^ rude flag pls
@SmokeDetector huh?? passport?
14:30
@ShadowWizard True. At the time it needed to go away tho. As he was posting many comments full of profanities, asking to be deleted, removed, banned, this site is sh*t etc
I'll bare my arse in Asda freezer aisle if the OP doesn't start editing with profanities again now
@James you talk about the "current" possible troll or the one I was referring to?
Hahaha, he has resorted to insulting me in German now. Brilliant.
@ShadowWizard how about this one as dupe: meta.stackexchange.com/q/248453/158100
@James picture or it never happened :D
@Bart Apparently the "just wait for the suspension to kick in" isn’t as effective as one might wish. :)
14:32
This amuses me too much anyway.
German is such a great language for insults
status-completed
@ShadowWizard :D dammit. I can't even be bothered to get out The Gimp.
@Bart why don't you try to comment "I am gonna downvote every single one of your posts everywhere" on that question. It will be even more fun!
Can people be comment-banned? (This isn't snark, it's a real question.)
@DroidDev I thought about constructively correcting his spelling and mentioning that I'm not Swiss, nor German.
14:34
But I’m pretty sure that flogging somebody with joputas is just as much une violation of the terms of service au dehors de inglese as it is por adentro, nicht wahr?
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@JasonC Only by being suspended.
Ooh, ooh, @ShadowWizard, did we just tag-team? Are you going to be next? :p
haha, @James won't have to bare any arse in anything. Was right on spot.
@Woodface He’s at 104 reps. Maybe we can solicit 28 more downvotes to strip him of his commenting privs. :)
14:36
@tchrist sound like a plan
Meh, just wait until he gets suspended.
@JasonC nope, but might be a nice feature to request ::)
@ShadowWizard Hard to contrive a use-case for that which didn’t also merit suspension.
@tchrist MSE requires 1 rep to comment :D
@ShadowWizard Damn it. :)
14:38
@tchrist yeah, very true
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Q: Implement a Selective Comment Ban

jmacWe all know the drill. Comments are temporary and intended to clarify stuff to make the posts better. We know they are an absolute nightmare to cleanup, but it's also really hard to figure out how to handle them. It would be nice if we had a way to mitigate the harm from comments by protecting ...

huh, should have known it's already requested!
> How many goats must be slain in Shog9's name?!
Nine is the luckiest number.
14:40
I can do it! I can do it nine times!
But it’s awfully tough on the kids.
Ahw @ShadowWizard, he's still insulting me. Though he does seem to think I have a wife and kids ... did I black out?
9 months of pregnancy, it's no coincidence
@Bart reminds me now of a real troll we used to have, he also targetted me at some point. Remember him?
@ShadowWizard yep. Good times. :p
14:42
lol
Tim Post made a good job sniping him out :P
yay! edit war!
I had the troll under control, and now you go and poke it with a stick, and a big pointy one at that
BROWN
@James As long as you engage him, you don't have him under control.
@Shog9 will you please put an end to this miserable troll on MSE? Pretty please?
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@ShadowWizard Thats what I wanted!!!! — Why_SE_bulling_new_users 1 min ago
in reply to:
@Why_SE_bulling_new_users you will just be suspended, hopefully network wide. good luck with that. — Shadow Wizard 3 mins ago
Now he's editting spam into the question
See that's why we need comment bans; suspension just gives him what he wants.
@Andy reload
14:47
@ShadowWizard He already said that earlier: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/251897/…
@ShadowWizard No, you reload again ;)
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How to install emacs 24.4 on Ubuntu? by murdahteam on askubuntu.com
haha, let's see when an emloyee will wake up
Let's find some comments to flag as well so that when they open the mod-tools the stuff blows up...
@rene nah, that's just cruel for the MSE diamondz :)
14:50
I predict that we'll all be called idiots in the near future by a moderator who will delete the entire thing. :)
No, everyone with an edit in the revision history of that post will get a badge
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@SmokeDetector gone
lol, think he's using a bot/script
@JasonC I didn't engage him afterwards " Thank you very much James!!!!!!! – You saved my life" And then 50 mins of silence, until Shadow inadvertently poked him. It's all funny tho
14:53
I'm going to put forward a FR to get rid of that nasty confirmation dialog when I want to rollback
@ShadowWizard He might just be watching it and copy/pasting the link back in.
@Andy nah, too fast.
Let's invite him to chat.
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brilliant idea!
14:54
@ShadowWizard he might be throtled now
Ojalá.
@JasonC dang, no chat user for him.
Isn't there some kind of block if your edits are rolled back too much?
@James nope.
only automated flag.
I don't understand why he's burning bridges. He's clearly got an investment of time into both Anime and Android. It doesn't feel like a rage quit.
14:56
And looks like we're all alone in this.
Improper medication.
Well, hopefully his mom will be home soon with his special pills...
I went to click my address bar and accidentally clicked my Cornify bookmarklet. That made me really happy.
@JasonC screenshot! plz?
@James .....or to change his diaper :P
Did you see his gravatar?
Mad graphic arts skillz.
14:58
@LynnCrumbling yup. Great loss, but we can't control people's minds
The extra pixels to the right of the garbage can are bothering me. Can I ask him to clean those up?
@LynnCrumbling sure, looks like a copy&paste mistake.
He added more spam to his post.
Google still identify this as Stack Overflow!
15:01
well. I suppose it isn't spam.
It's a link to blog rant about SO.
@LynnCrumbling It's been ongoing. The number of revisions has jumped almost 30 since I looked 10 minutes ago
I can't flag for offensive, used an other flag long tome ago :/
@Andy sigh
Isn't there a non mod way we can get rid? IE all flag as spam?
15:02
I suppose.
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@James Other than disengaging, you mean?
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The post is off the front page, so who cares what the OP does with it.
@James this will cause the question to be deleted and -100 for the troll
Actually, I'd be on board as all flagging abusive.. if anyone else is on board.
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> It's a beautiful day to deploy thousands of clutered coumnstores, don'tcha think? This sever is going to hate me. -- Nick Craver at 6:52 AM - 23 Mar 2015 via Twitter..... Is Nick drunk at 7 am or something.
15:02
I'm not going to give undeserved spam flags.
@JasonC Define "deserved"
Let's do this: Stop reverting the edits, and if the next one is abusive, it can be flagged as such.
@Jon hope you came for the troll?
@JasonC What about abusive?
@JasonC ok.
@James Deserved as in, based on whether or not its actually spam in its currently visible state. Stop reverting edits and we can legitimately flag.
15:03
@ShadowWizard Nope. Just the start of my week.
Or we can just let Jon deal with it. ^
@JasonC That'll work.
@JasonC Link?
@JonEricson Happy Monday!
@JonEricson oh. Oops. So better not start it with network wide suspension, I guess.
15:04
-14
Q: Where is the difference between Stackoverflow and Stackexchange

Why_SE_bulling_new_usersWhat is the difference between the names of Stackoverflow and other Stackexchange Gorup sites? Why the main site of the Stackexchange-network is call different as the other sites? To get 1 Mio reps, click here As I know the standard is: *topic* + .stackexchange.com To be more precise, why St...

Edited back in.
Kill it jon.
With fire, preferably.
Free flags?
:)
@ShadowWizard are you kidding me? What better way to start the week?
Post locked cheers
15:05
@JasonC Ok. Let's start with a content lock.
@Bart for Shog maybe, but Jon here is a good person with a kind heart. :D
If I were a CM I'd network ban a random user first thing every Monday morning before I even made my coffee.
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@ShadowWizard ... but ... but ... there's a diamond.
@JonEricson, he's adding youporn links to the comments on the answer now
@JonEricson Take a look at his profile; not sure where you guys draw the line, but the gravatar says it all.
15:06
@JasonC expect to be hired.
@JonEricson Couldn't ask for anything more. Thanks!
@Jon see his latest comments please.
@Bart I am. I keep refreshing my inbox but the offer hasn't arrived yet. I'm sure it's just an SMTP problem or something.
@Andy Now a one day suspension on MSE. Let's see what next.
15:07
The troll really must be suspended.
FINALLY
Good, that was fun. Now back to being a miserable bastard.
I see all the comments have been burninated..
I think he can still change the avatar, so we better keep an eye.
@JonEricson why -one day-???
3 mins ago, by Andy
@JonEricson, he's adding youporn links to the comments on the answer now
enough for network wide ban
@LynnCrumbling If any of them were worthwhile, let me know.
15:10
4 mins ago, by Shadow Wizard
@Bart for Shog maybe, but Jon here is a good person with a kind heart. :D
It's a good start @SP, I think we can wait to see what happens after he comes back. He did keep asking for a ban, it was kind of what he wanted. 1 day is a nice compromise.
> a good person with a kind heart
@JonEricson Doubtful :-/
@SPArchaeologist I can increase it if needed. I just need to figure out what's going on.
Really locking the post and deleting the comments was the biggest help, I think. That post in particular was big time flame bait, he wasn't really doing much elsewhere.
15:11
He actively asked to be banned. "Plz ban me from SE – Why_SE_bulling_new_users 3 hours ago" He is quite active on a few sites however. Maybe the 24hour cool off will work.
I'm waiting to see if he decides to implicate his Anime account.
@JasonC was that done on my old mmorpg server, the result would be "This is the door. Bye."
@SPArchaeologist on a server that big you can do that. But here at SE we need all the users we can get.
His avatar's actually kind of funny.
Kill? Kill? Did someone say Kill? KILL KILL KILL oh hai
15:17
@Bart Heh. It's more like I don't want to do something like this before my first cup of coffee.
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why can I still comment on the answer but not the question?
@James only the question is locked (as a single post)
ah k
@JonEricson come on Jon, live a little. And you know you can trust us, right? RIGHT?
15:19
@Bart Trust BUT VERIFY. Or something.
It's not about trust or doing the right thing, it's just about getting that first cup of coffee. After that, raising hell is no problem.
[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How can I keep a roommate from seeing my web activity? by Alexander on security.stackexchange.com
Happy Ending
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A: Undetectable MICRO Serial Downvoting. What is it? What to do? What the heck!

Andrea LigiosI'm posting and accepting an answer containing the (former Moderator) @BradLarson's comment to his own answer: OK, a community team member looked into this and discerned a pattern in the votes. The offending ones have now been invalidated and the users behind them warned. This should hopefull...

That answer is offensive, funny as hell tho
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in CoGro Musings, 19 mins ago, by jmac
Addict Power User : Mod :: Mod : CM -- your world view changes when you see how the sausage is made/what's behind the curtain, and so does the way you spend your time to forward the sites. One of the tough parts of the job is taking the time to make sure that you are properly communicating the what and the why, otherwise people think you're just being dictatorial, arbitrary, and other varieties of not-so-nice adjectives.
user259867
15:27
Possibly missing New User : Power User part.
what is this room?!
in CoGro Musings, Mar 19 at 18:13, by Tim Post
A note about this room - It's gallery because we're testing to see what we might actually end up writing on something .. more blog-ish. If you want to talk to any of us about anything we've posted here, we have a site for that. Just tag it discussion, and link to the transcript.
I like that the lock message on MSE says "for more details, visit meta." It should probably say, "for more details... just kidding, deal with it."
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@Andy thanks, though it's probably better to discuss chat messages in chat, i.e. here in Tavern
@ShadowWizard Perhaps. I've posted a question related to one of the comments from that room. I expect it's not a short simple answer, so I'm being patient and hoping for of the awesome posts CMs have with charts and graphs.
user259867
15:32
feed musings into Tavern automatically.
@Andy nice, I see now. Hope it won't be ignored for too long! :)
@Andy Congrats with your badge :)
@PatrickHofman eh?
Oh. Why thank you
is trello.com down for anyone of you guys?
Or somewhat wonky
@Bart no. up and running.
15:40
Hmm
Yeah, it's having some issues
Do they have Meta?
Are they crazy?
Apologies everyone for the service disruption - We are aware and currently working on a fix. Will keep you updated as we learn more.
Ahem:
> Apologies everyone for the service disruption - We are aware and currently working on a fix. Will keep you updated as we learn more. -- Trello at 11:30 AM - 23 Mar 2015 via Twitter
15:42
@Bart, is it 3:30 your time?
Bookmarklet ftw.
ish
@Andy nope.
huh
nevermind then
UTC I guess
15:56
The review count in the topbar on SO doesn't include available close vote reviews. Is that true for all sites or only for SO?
only SO
Tnx
@rene make sense, it's quite depressing to see it at 10000+ always
@ShadowWizard It doesn't need to be like this if everybody, yes that includes you, would handle them... ;)
16:12
Haven't been in any of those queues for quite a while now.
@rene haha, when I'll have some time I'll try to explain my motives for not giving a hand but yeah, you got a point :)
@Shog9 Are we ever going to get a straight answer for how exactly that number is calculated on SO?
It's certainly not just "everything except close votes".
It's currently at 1700 for me, but the other queues barely add up to much more than 150.
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Q: Inaccurate review counter?

X.L.AntMy rep just turned 10k. All of a sudden, my review counter jumped from maybe 10 or 20 to 1600, but I didn't see any new review category, and the math is wrong (8k pending close reviews, 54 low quality, nothing else above 10). Where do those 1600 pending reviews come from ? Is there a link I didn...

@AlexisKing yeah, it's crazy - I stopped paying attention to that number long long ago, even when still active in the queues
Stop whining, it is all explained in my perfect answer. Bring on the votes!
@rene If that's true, then why the hell is suggested edits at "0" for me if it's actually over a thousand?
I can't imagine a thousand people are actually in that queue concurrently.
@AlexisKing because over a 1000 users are now looking at an sugested edit review
Is that honestly true? If so, I'm impressed. I didn't realize we had so many people reviewing.
some might skip?
Maybe some bots that visit those queues as part of some quality effort?
How did this guy get 21 reviews? :O
Hax!
16:21
Post was deleted
Huh, I didn't realize that gave you back slots in the review queue.
It certainly doesn't happen with the CV queue.
You get your review task back....sometimes... i never managed to get that done though
No, the CVQ doesn't have that feature
You'll need a diamond (and a cookie) to do more then 40 close vote reviews on a day
@AlexisKing we have a little bit of a problem with suggested edits
will address when I'm awake
There are 1527 audits that... shouldn't be counted.
Anonymous
Interesting. :P
Hey Shog, do you know the answer to this:
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Q: What does the number next to the review link in the top bar actually mean?

Jason CWhat is the actual source of the number displayed next to the review link in the top bar? I found Notification for reviews shows way too much (via Review flag count is still wrong and similar) but, and apologies if I'm being dense, the answer there didn't seem to have an explanation of where the ...

16:37
@JasonC Can't tell if joking or just too lazy to read the backlog.
Remember the 55k worth of pending close votes? That sort of thing just scares people away if they feel the mountain is infinitely high. Truth in advertising suggests it should go 1, 2, 3, ∞. :)
@AlexisKing I think it's a serious question. At least it was meant to be. I don't understand.
@Shog9 Hahaha, okay. That's a little bit more comforting than the idea of having thousands of uncompleted review items.
I haven't read the backlog in chat though, if this was coincidentally answered in the past few minutes, sorry about that. Reading now.
@JasonC Yeah, that. :P
16:39
Oh. That's funny. Sorry. I just looked at chat and saw you were talking about review stuff, and it reminded me that I asked that question.
Hey @rene do you want to post a copy of your answer to my MSE question?
@JasonC yes
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@Shog9 -1
Ahhhhh!
Just 8 more downvotes and Shog disappears from the universe
16:46
@James 9 more and you'll get negative Shog. Yeah, this actually is positive Shog at the moment ...
@JasonC yes, done
I like that yes is starred. In the SO close voters room we had meh pinned from the same author.
@rene Kickass! Thanks.
pins yes from the same author
16:59
Now we just need to get him to say "no" to something.
Which is apparently quite difficult (he's very agreeable).
Is "no" excluded from chat search terms? "Ok" works, but chat.meta.stackexchange.com/feeds/search/no is empty.
no
Maybe no is on the noise list for search?
@Woodface I've added your tip to my answer
@JasonC non does work...
18:04
@Bart I assume that your answer on the dup is still valid?
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Fun fact: the script moderator.en.js contains a comment with the URL of SO answer How to tell if a DOM element is visible in the current viewport?
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Stack Overflow was used to build Stack Overflow.
hiy'all
hi @Frank
18:24
haha, nothing going on in here.
life is pointless
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@Frank or it would be, if we did not have reputation points.
@Woodface lol
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18:40
> Welcome @cky944 to @StackExchange ! -- Jon Chan at 8:36 AM - 23 Mar 2015 via Twitter
user259867
SE hired SO user #13... recently, I suppose.
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@Woodface kewl. Why I always forget to check twitter I don't know...
user259867
Yes, recently: he does not yet appear on stackexchange.com/about/team
@Woodface That's not surprising, today is his first day
user259867
18:43
I blame caching.
stupid caching
Anonymous
That can be his first-day task: commit the change to add himself to that page, without breaking the site. :P
user259867
18:54
> For pedants reviewing my posts: I'm an expat Kiwi, so I prefer to spell with New Zealand English. If you "Americanise" the spelling in my posts, I will revert your edits.
user259867
Just the person they need to launch SO in Australian that Tim Post announced recently.
[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Why didn't the US choose to demolish Tokyo with an atom bomb? by gabenewell on history.stackexchange.com
19:05
Can anyone help out here: stackoverflow.com/q/29217293/656243
Trying to get him to add more detail.
It didn't work.
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/posts/{postId}/ajax-load returns HTML-only body of the post, none of the fancy CSS things. E.g. stackoverflow.com/posts/28889838/ajax-load I haven't found a way to use this yet...
19:38
> This is known as "asking a la Jeopardy".
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A: Are "What can I do with..." questions on-topic?

MoosemanBecause there's no right answer. These questions are absolutely off-topic because they are "Primarily opinion-based" or "Too broad" Since the question isn't looking for a solution to a specific problem, the answers could go any of a thousand ways. Such a question may also be closed as "D...

@Woodface she
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I am proud of this comment
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I downvoted because I went to an alternate future, and in the sunshine-and-lollipops future where this was implemented - SE became sentient and quite angry, humans are on the verge of extinction, the environment is a mess, dogs and cats living together... and worst of all, one direction became the world leaders...(oh wait.. this is not private??) — Sabre Tooth 6 mins ago
@Woodface Ohey, I see that guy all the time in my favorite tags: and . :)
@rene It's still hanging in there on the stars board. :p
19:56
Ah, yeah. I think it was unpinned by some room-owner

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