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Lynn Crumbling

21:00

@Sue It's just another brand of ice tea maker.. wasn't sure how national they were, but they're the only competition around here.

Sue

@Frank Favorite flavor?

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling In what section is that?

Frank

@Sue swiss-tea.com

Sue

@Frank Must be local. I haven't seen that around here.

bjb568

@Sue blueberry

Lynn Crumbling

21:02

@Mooseman 11.3.3/11.3.4 (search for IFrame)

Sue

@bjb568 Yum!

Frank

@Sue hmm. idk.

that's a hard question.

Sue

Did you know that Ben & Gerry's has a graveyard with stones for each of their discontinued flavors? It's fun.

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman 11.2 says frameset/noframe/frame: "Either use iframe and CSS instead, or use server-side includes to generate complete pages with the various invariant parts merged in."

@Sue I've heard that.

Frank

@Sue no Ben & Gerry's here :P

Lynn Crumbling

21:04

@Frank Sure there is! (Ben & Jerry's)

Frank

where?

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Their factory in Vermont is fun, but the Turkey Hill place offers more stuff to do.

Lynn Crumbling

I love Phish Food!

Frank

lel

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Us too.

Mooseman

21:05

@LynnCrumbling This is going to create a new quirks mode.

Lynn Crumbling

Dark choc + ice cream = WIN.

@Mooseman Ref?

Sue

Oooops, mis-spelled Jerry's.

For me it has to have nuts in it. And not peach.

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling Just my 2¢

Frank

I don't like pistachio ice cream

It's green...

Also don't like egg nog ice cream

Sue

@Frank I forgot - you don't like green stuff!

Frank

21:09

:p

Sue

Funny, I love pistachios but not ice cream or any other artificial version.

And definitely no eggnog of any kind. Ick!

Frank

I don't like green mint ice cream either. I always get white.

@Sue exactly.

Sue

We don't have white mint ice cream. Sounds good. I like green mint choc chip, but I add almonds.

Frank

:/

weird

Sue

Says the man who likes to watch cats fall down all day!

:D

Frank

21:12

isn't breyers mint choc chip ice cream, and TH philadelphia style white?

@Sue lol.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank I know Breyers is white.

Sue

Now that you mention it, I think breyer's is white.

Frank

@Sue believe it or not... I sometimes do other things during the day.

Sue

Probably to eliminate food coloring, which is good.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Try ice cream from Mr. Milkman sometime.

Frank

21:13

also looks more appetizing, and less pond-scummy...

Sue

@Frank You do about 100 things during the day!

Frank

@LynnCrumbling hmm. How many retailers do they have?

@Sue or 99

Sue

And are probably thinking about 100 more!

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank It is AMAZING. mrmilkman.com/mm2

@Frank It's home delivery.

Frank

Ah!

Sue

21:14

@LynnCrumbling Mr. Milkman sounds cool!

Frank

I sometimes make my own, which tastes awesome.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Cool website!

Frank

The best Ice cream I've ever had, though, comes from Pine View dairy (local to my area)

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank You can get milk, ice cream, and multitude of other products. Try them.. everything is great. And local.

Sue

You guys live in dairy country, probably why there's lots of good ice cream.

Frank

21:16

yup.

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Yeah.. and snack food.

Sheesh.

Sue

We have a few dairy farms around that make their own stuff, but, as with most things, the big guys are stomping all over them.

@LynnCrumbling Like...

Frank

over 50% of my neighbors are amish dairy farmers with 30+ acres each.

See more horse and buggies than cars sometimes.

It's so primitive...

but cool

Lynn Crumbling

UTZ.. Martins.. Sturgis...

Sue

@Frank Awesome. We visited once, and it was really hard not to take pix. But needed to be respectful.

Lynn Crumbling

21:17

It's out of control, the number of chip/pretzel/snack mix vendors in this area.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling We have Utz. Haven't heard of the others.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling There's Herr's snack foods... I knew Jim Herr before he died

Sue

@Frank We thought the buggies were way cool!

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Right - Herrs, Bickels, G&S, Smittees Pretzels...

Sue

And we took a tour of an Amish farm, and ate in someone's home with no power, etc. Tourist-y stuff but was awesome. Great food! And the B&B we stayed in was owned by Mennonites - very nice people.

I wish we had had a huge truck to bring home Amish furniture.

Frank

21:21

@Sue Yeah. also teams of mules instead of tractors - much more peaceful for the neighbors. I've actually seen a huge John Deere hopelessly stuck in mud, easily pulled out by a team of 6 huge mules.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Never heard of any of these. Local stuff I guess...

Frank

@Sue was that in strasburg?

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Snyder's ... Annie Anne's... @Frank - do we get to count Pepperidge Farms?

Sue

@Frank Can't remember. It was about 15 minutes from Sight and Sound.

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Sounds about right. That's up 896.

Sue

21:22

@LynnCrumbling We have Snyder's pretzels. Very popular around here, but I don't like pretzels!

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Yeah, I'm not a fan either (unless I'm dipping the pretzel rods in my MINT CHOC CHIP ice cream ;)

^ See what I did there?

Sue

@LynnCrumbling We wandered all around. Then we got in a car accident, had to leave the car there and go back, so we visited twice! Praise God, no injuries in that accident.

@LynnCrumbling Clever!

Lynn Crumbling

portal.state.pa.us/portal/server.pt/community/summer/20953/…

Sue

@Frank Funny! The mule teams were so gorgeous! I love those, and work horses.

Frank

This one guy trained his mule team to run home, so when he was making hay, and the 2 or 3 hay wagons were full, he'd hitch them all into a train, and the mules could take it down the road to the home farm unmanned. Illegal, but funny

Sue

21:25

@LynnCrumbling Auntie Annie's started in PA?

Frank

It was a train like 70-80' long...

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Lancaster...

Frank

really wide turns

Sue

@Frank Awesome!

Frank

@LynnCrumbling didn't know that...

Sue

21:27

We got to go on a horse and buggy ride too, at a farm stand someplace. Again, tourist-y but fun. Such a peaceful area.

Braiam

don't tell me they are planing to bring marquee back

bjb568

@Sue o_O

Frank

@Sue yeah, I think that's in Strasburg.

Lynn Crumbling

@Braiam nah, actually - the opposite - it's gone.

Sue

@bjb568 Cool shades!

2

Frank

21:28

I go up there for gasoline for the work trucks.

bjb568

@Sue meh

Sue

@Frank Probably. We did a lot of driving around the small towns.

Lynn Crumbling

@Braiam Section 11 is "Obsolete Features"

Sue

@Frank How far away from you?

Frank

@Sue less than half an hour

Braiam

21:30

@bjb568 are you "meh"ing my shades?! HOW YOU DARE!

Frank

They have a station up there, that sells 0% ethanol gasoline. Much better for the engines.

bjb568

:P

Frank

but costs like $2.45/gal :(

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Are you west or east of 222?

Frank

They sell up to 110 octane gas...

@LynnCrumbling does it matter? :P

Lynn Crumbling

21:32

@Frank Nope :)

Frank

atm, I'm east of 222

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank We had our son at Birth Care.. if you are east of it, figured you'd know where it was.

Frank

nope :)

never been there

Sue

I just clicked on that link about Marquee and it crashed my whole browser! Funny cuz this is Firefox on our decent computer, rather than Safari on my Ipad which is what I usually use.

@Frank Is that a lot or little for gas?

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank It's on 896, in Bart I believe.

Frank

21:34

I used to do lawn care for Lancaster General hospitals/health campuses, but now smeone else does it (tree of life services, iirc)

the contract ended

@Sue a lot, here.

Normally don't have to pay more than $2.10 for 87 octane here.

Sue

@Frank Was curious because that's significantly lower than here. Although we did just go under $3.00 for the first time in years.

Frank

and $2.30 for 89 octane, which I always use.

Sue

For your truck?

Frank

@Sue Down in Louisiana they went under $1/gal

@Sue for everything.

Sue

@Frank D has relatives in Shreveport. They live on an army base, but apparently it's not a really nice area. I guess it's a good thing gas is low, since the people around there can't afford much.

Frank

21:38

yeah

Sue

Are they closer to the refineries or something?

Shows you my lack of knowledge of such matters...

Frank

I'm in a wealthy area.

Sue

I didn't realize Amish country was wealthy.

Or only certain sections, I imagine. That was a dumb generalization!

@LynnCrumbling You live near Frank?

Frank

@Sue The average income here is quite high, and even the less wealthy can afford things like landscaping/lawn care services. Good for me, but the competition is pretty steep. Especially against the tycoons.

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Sue

21:45

@Frank I like watching the smoke detector stuff! I'm glad people can afford to pay you, but the whole tycoon thing is annoying. Like Walmart (though I do shop there!).

I don't like watching individuals put out of business. Happens a lot around here.

Frank

I don't shop at walmart, for just that reason. I try to budget high enough that I can patronize local companies with good ethics...

@SmokeDetector fp

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@Frank Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Frank

!!/hats?

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@Frank WINTERBASH IS OVER! :(

Sue

@Frank Definitely admire you for that. We have very few choices any more.

Frank

21:49

@Sue :(

Sue

We always shop at local merchants when we can. Restaurants too.

Frank

!!/status

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@Frank Running since 21:02:22 UTC

Frank

@Sue :)

@Sue, lots of funny/cute cat gifs

catoverflow.com

Sue

@Frank Shopping at local merchants is better too, because you meet nice people who really care about what they do.

Lynn Crumbling

21:54

@Sue Yep, we're on opposite sides of Lancaster.. he's south of the city, I'm north of it.

Frank

@Sue yea.

Sue

@Frank Are they al falling down?

Frank

@LynnCrumbling South is better.

@Sue nope

some of them do, but most of them are just goofing off

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank If I didn't have to get to 30 on a regular basis, I'd definitely consider joining you.

Frank

or get a smartcar

:/

those things are a mess when you hit a deer

Lynn Crumbling

21:56

Soon time to head to Oregon Dairy.. wife and kids are doing a GS Cookie booth there right now.

Frank

Ah!

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Thin mints?

Frank

^^ what happens when a smartcar meets a deer

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Definitely the most popular...

Frank

always drive a truck in Pennsylvania.

Or a Hummer.

Sue

21:57

@Frank Wow-who died? Driver, deer or both?

Frank

@Sue idek

looks like the deer did.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank I hate deer. Dumb things. Had one slam into my rear passenger-side door when I as 17.

Frank

They sure taste good...

I never hunt though

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank YES they do.

Frank

I saw a deer farm the other day. Big slow deer that didn't run... so unnatural.

Sue

22:01

@LynnCrumbling Must have been very scary. I love deer, though, because I love every animal.

Frank

@Sue even snakes?

I hate snakes

especially diamondbacks.

I had to dispatch one once - almost was bit

Sue

@Frank You mean deer being raised for meat?

Frank

@Sue yeah

they need quite the fence...

Sue

@Frank Sad.

Frank

Is cattle rasied for meat sad?

Sue

22:03

@Frank I'll bet they do.

@Frank If not allowed to roam free and have a happy life!

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue I shouldn't say I hate deer. I should instead say I hate it when my car interacts with deer.

Frank

@Sue around here there are almost no animal concentration camps (like they have in the west), so that's nice.

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue They're incredibly common around here.. and when full moon hits, they come out looking for food in deep winter months, due to the lack of supply.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Definitely get that. They can be very dangerous. One hit us once but we were fine. It went off into the woods but I cried for days worrying that it was injured.

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Which translates into them being much braver than they ought to be. Especially around automobiles.

Sue

22:06

@Frank I like that term! And yes I love snakes.

Frank

A friend just totaled his 2012 Mercedes-Benz c-300 4matic sport sedan... on a deer.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Ouch.

Frank

@LynnCrumbling don't know why he had it out in this weather anyway, but...

I guess 4matic is awesome on snow, but still.

Lynn Crumbling

@Frank Perhaps his Porsche was in the shop.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling I was hoping deer in your area would have more natural feeding areas and not run out into the street as much.

@Frank Yikes! Was he/she ok?

Lynn Crumbling

22:08

@Sue Yeah, they're getting pretty desperate at this point. Not much to eat.

Frank

@Sue We have about 6 deer living in our 3 acre woods. No hunting permitted.

Sue

@LynnCrumbling Sad.

Frank

@Sue The deer?

no, it died instantly

Sue

@Frank Is that called fallow deer? Yay for no hunting!

Frank

@Sue no, they're white tails

Lynn Crumbling

22:10

I gotta scoot.. time for a commute. Have a good weekend all..

Frank

@LynnCrumbling ok, cya!

Sue

You too-happy cookie time!

Lynn Crumbling

@Sue Thanks :)

Frank

... and he floats from the shelf...

Sue

@Frank I found an old question of yours where you said you shot a raccoon in your yard! :(

Frank

22:12

@Sue We've had a couple rabid raccons/skunks around in the past.

They're a safety issue imo

Sue

I was just going to ask that.

It was just funny the way you worded it in the question!

Frank

I think it's better to shoot them than leave them be, but that's just imo

@Sue which question?

Sue

Was afraid you'd ask. I think I saved the link. Was from 2012, about tree stumps.

I think it was in the comments.

Frank

hmm.

Sue

Actually I think you asked the question, but the raccoon part was a comment you made.

Checking to see if I saved it...

Frank

22:19

@Sue Am doing an sql query...

Sue

Guess not. I think I was searching something by tabs and it came up.

Frank

ok, the query says there is only one comment on GL containing 'raccoon':

I use the same trap, and I caught a thirty pound raccoon that was eating my corn. Be careful to bait it with something they like better than corn. — J. Musser Dec 25 '11 at 2:26

bummi

spam android.stackexchange.com/a/101073/39544

Frank

flagged ^

Sue

Nope. It was something about shooting a raccoon and burying it in a tree stump?

Frank

22:21

@Sue ew. Never done that.

bummi

spam android.stackexchange.com/a/101074/39544

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Frank

@SmokeDetector tpu

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@Frank Blacklisted user.

Frank

@SmokeDetector tpu

Sue

22:22

@Frank It didn't sound like you! Maybe it was Lorem.

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@Frank Blacklisted user.

Sue

Cool watching how spam gets caught so fast.

Frank

@Sue wanna help flag it?

Sue

yah!!

Frank

Oh, you don't have the account...

If you make one in time, you can flag

Sue

22:24

At android I do

Frank

oh good.

They need 2 more flags each

Sue

Which site, I'll do it..

The

Frank

@Sue Smokedetector linked to them both

android.stackexchange.com/questions/101071/… and android.stackexchange.com/questions/101070/…

Sue

Bummer-don't have enough rep!

Frank

you should - with the association bonus...

takes 15 rep to flag a post

Sue

22:27

Had tried to downvote which I couldn't. Just flagged them, way cool!!

bummi

@Sue don't vote on spam , just flag :)

Frank

@Sue yeah, downvoting makes it harder to track their status.

Sue

@bummi Just figured that out, thanks.

Frank

spam gone

Sue

How many flags til post goes bye-bye?

bummi

22:29

account persists :/

@Sue 6

Sue

So if I'm hanging around in here and see one come in, I can help, please?

bummi

yes

Frank

@Sue 6 if flagged as spam/offnsive. Other flags accumulate until moderator attention.

@Sue yeah.

Sue

I have to have an account though?

Frank

@Sue yup.

That's why I have an account on every SE site:P

bummi

22:31

8:00 AM GMT is usual Meta and Drupal spam time :/

Sue

I'll have to join more, especially the tech-y sites, which seem to attract a lot.

bummi

so you could make accounts there ;)

Frank

Drupal and MSE get the most

idk why

bummi

meanwhile SU too

Frank

So I have the deputy badge at both places

Sue

22:32

Cool! I have Meta so will go to Drupal right now.

Frank

and SU

Sue

What's SU?

bummi

superuser

askubuntu is comming up too

Frank

@bummi huh, didn't notice.

I appear to have only 56 helpful flags there...

Sue

Drupal done-will do the others...

bummi

22:35

@Frank 298 / 47 spam

Frank

Must be coming in at night here...

bummi

@Frank no same time as SU short after Meta and Drupal

Frank

ah.

What time UTC?

Sue

All done! Now have to learn what Ubuntu and Drupal are!

bummi

@Frank 8:00 to 11:00 (about)

Sue

22:39

@Frank That's why I don't like the helpful flags part of the new profile. Makes lots of us look unhelpful.

Frank

I usually end up going to bed when drupal/mse spam starts coming in full strength.

@bummi That's 3-6 am here

:P

Sue

@Frank You sleep? Could've fooled me! :)

bummi

@Frank ups, but I did calculate the wrong direction subtract 2 hours, blame on me

Frank

@Sue I usually sleep from 12:30 am or so until 5 - 5:30 am

@bummi ok, smack in the middle of my ~~daily~~ nightly sleep period.

nicael

0

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

Profile tab already shows my badges for top tags; can this be implemented for the tags in the "activity > summary" and "activity > tags" please?

bummi

22:43

@Frank that night be the reason why the post then

Sue

@Frank Not much for someone so physically active!

Frank

@bummi my thought exactly - or they're from India...

who knows...

bummi

indeed

Frank

@Sue You get used to it.

Sue

@nicael This question thread is getting harder and harder to read.

Your link to the exact part really helps!

bummi

22:46

translated from swedish this is spam superuser.com/a/883563/172747 ... I'll use NAA

Frank

@bummi /me used spam

user259867

Flagged as spam. Ironic that the question is about translating webpages.

Frank

lol

@nicael how many answers have you posted on that thread by now? :P

Sue

Flagged as spam too-this is fun!

bummi

:=}

Sue

22:50

Don't worry-I won't do anything irresponsible.

Frank

I know you won't

Sue

@Frank Thanks! Like I tell my son, power is only to be used for good!

Frank

We are the power users

:D

Sue

lol!

bummi

@Sue if you love flagging gaming is often offensive and webapps has a lot of spam questions

Frank

22:52

^

nicael

@Frank meta.stackexchange.com/… :) meta.stackexchange.com/tags/featured/topusers (this one updated daily)

Sue

@bummi Thanks. Will go join those... I've noticed that about gaming when I'm watching in here.

bummi

SO with the 10k tools is a endless source ...

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user259867

@nicael The query user:259214 inquestion:249951 is more robust; independent of tags on the post.

Alexis King

22:56

I never realized how awful the WordPress.SE theme is until just now.

I wonder if it's a commentary on something.

Frank

I just got deputy there - is a messy site

user259867

The highest percentage of downvotes across SE, or close to it.

nicael

@FamousBlueRaincoat agree. I just put the fist link I thought about :D

Frank

@nicael thats 1910 rep just from that thread.

nicael

1000

Cuz rep cap

meta.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Reputation&filter=week

Frank

22:59

ah

Sue

@nicael Not allowed more than 1,000 per question?

nicael

But 17 that's not my record yet. meta.stackexchange.com/…

user259867

I downvoted this question because it told me I had to, to get the next badge ("Critic"). This might not be how you want this to work. But I don't care, I got a shiny! Hey, why didn't I get a shiny? I did my "first downvote" just like it said! I'll try downvoting some comments and answers, too... — Dewi Morgan 6 mins ago

nicael

@Sue no - daily rep cap is 200 (from upvoted)

Frank

@Sue only allowed 200 upvote rep/day

user259867

23:07

@SmokeDetector fp id movie questions are awful

SmokeDetector

@FamousBlueRaincoat Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

bummi

My english is to poor, is this savable/on topic ? apple.stackexchange.com/q/174747/55266

Frank

@bummi vlq

imo anyway. It's about a gaming account, which is ot

bummi

@Frank was my thought too, apple is still aehmm problematic for me (but makes it intersting)

Sue

@Frank vlq = very low quality, yes?

Frank

23:13

@Sue yup

Sue

Wow-that one's wild. I like to try to make questions readable-not sure I could even do it! Want me to try, or it's off-topic?

user259867

It looks odd that @Roombatron5000 has 6000 reputation. Should have been 6000?

user259867

screenshot

user259867

Mostly I'm testing if the ping works when the user has not been in chat under the new name yet...

Frank

@Sue It's ot and vlq

Sue

23:19

Ok!

bummi

I love this smokedetector substitute sequence chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/3101442#3101442

Frank

lel

user259867

Is there extra space at the top of each answer on SO? Look at this for example: the distance between horizontal line and the beginning of post is larger for answer than for question.

user259867

Was it always this way?

Sue

@nicael Oh. Was wondering what that 1,000 was you mentioned.

bummi

23:27

@FamousBlueRaincoat the question has a tab, but my eyes are to robust to even notice this ;)

user259867

@bummi It's the same on every question. Answers have 20px vertical padding, which questions do not have. Could be by design, but it looks unfamiliar to me, and I can't unsee it.

bummi

I admire it whenever people perceive something that strikes me just at an exact look, I'm to insensitive :/

Sue

@Frank Can you point me back to that link to the cat videos? Forgot to permalink it!

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28093632/1699210 one missing

Kevin Brown

@bummi closed

bummi

23:39

:))

Frank

2 hours ago, by Frank

http://catoverflow.com/

bummi

gtg night @ all

Sue

@Frank Thanks!

Frank

@bummi Night!

Sue

@bummi Bye bye!

@Frank Very cool!

Frank

23:53

funny, when I google 'user J. Musser gardening' the first google result is my math.se account.

2

Sue

We have a cat who throws up almost every day. We call her "eat and puke" cuz that's what she does! She's been doing it for 12 years, so it's not an illness, just annoying! Sounds gross and is usually on the bed or furniture! With that, I leave you. Good night one and all!

@Frank Weird!

Frank

@Sue lol, that's terrible!

Night @Sue!

Sue

@Frank I know! My vet says one of hers does it too. Forgot to tell you the others like to eat it! Grossed you out enough yet! Now I really have to go. Thanks for the company and the flagging fun! :)

Frank

@Sue even worse... :/

Night!'

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