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Meta Andrew T.

5:11 AM

@Feeds Fake your onebox with AI, clickbaiting has never been easier

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

6:09 AM

@KevinB finally! Glad you got home safely. :D

@JNat thanks!

@JNat awesome, thanks. Hope you didn't have to do it site-by-site? Anyway, how come they have only 1 rep on SO? Should be association bonus, and no bounties were offered. Spam post?

Rob

6:59 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Maybe: Fairly new: physics.stackexchange.com/users/304529/pcmse?tab=reputation math.stackexchange.com/users/934294/pcmse?tab=reputation and associated later?

JNat

8:17 AM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 no spam post... dunno why that 1 rep there, but... meh

SPArcheon

8:51 AM

thanks again SE for the badge, but I wanted a thimble instead.

Mithical

9:23 AM

Alice looks very pleased.

SPArcheon

9:53 AM

@Mithical More than the other Alice.

SPArcheon

11:32 AM

no one around it seems.

Everyone's asleep.

Heh, I wish.

11:48 AM

That's just gross.

SPArcheon

12:14 PM

based on a specific scene.

Twilight Avoids Her Castle (Castle, Sweet Castle) | MLP: FiM [HD]

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basically the result of too little sleep for too long time.

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, gross.

I can wish I was sleeping without wanting to be covered in greasy sticky food.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell never said that you should wish that. Nor her, for what matter. It is not like she wanted to fall asleep on the pancake.

Dude coinheringaahing

You'd have to imagine that, somehow, it isn't gross/sticky for the pony

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon Then I don't get what it has to do with the conversation that was going on.

Dude coinheringaahing

Maybe My Little Pony ponies are Teflon-coated?

Tinkeringbell

12:21 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing That's another point: Having pony in your food is usually gross (unless packaged under proper hygienic circumstances), and there was a big scandal here with beef being cut with pony a few years back :P

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell A warning? Go to sleep before someone finds you asleep on the keyboard?

Tinkeringbell

@SPArcheon At least my keyboard isn't greasy or sticky.

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell so, at worst, there will be some ~~crackers crumbs?~~ fairy dust?

Tinkeringbell

Nope. Like I said, my keyboard is clean.

Dude coinheringaahing

That's pretty impressive tbh

SPArcheon

12:24 PM

Which reminds me....

Dude coinheringaahing

My keyboard's only really clean because I bought it a month ago :P

SPArcheon

48

Q: How can I remove ants from my laptop keyboard?

There are ants in my laptop keyboard again. It's happened before and ended up killing my productivity occasionally as the little critters suddenly show up from within the gaps of the keyboard. I had to bring it over to my uncle and he got rid of the ants, somehow, but I forgot to ask how he did i...

> Wash your keyboard in the top rack of an automatic dishwasher

But... I kinda remember someone suggesting to use a gardening hose

Deleted maybe?

Tinkeringbell

@Dudecoinheringaahing Dunno. I just take out all the keys, put them in a bra net, put them in the washing machine.... Just like lego :P Then use the vacuum with brush to get the bits of dust that always get in between the keys no matter how much you vacuum it with the key on it... and then wipe it down with a wet desinfecting wipe... Make that a monthly/every two months thing, and it stays pretty clean.

I basically just use the vacuum + brush on a low setting to clean the board every week if I'm not doing the big cleaning thing.

Dude coinheringaahing

I mainly have trouble with dust and grime accumulating and getting in between the keys, and that stuff refuses to be vacuumed up, so I have to do a proper wide down and clean in all the awkward gaps in the key wells

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, just taking off all the keys every other month helps a lot with that here, though :)

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

12:38 PM

@JNat bug! :D

@Rob no that deleted post isn't relevant anymore users can't control the association. Even deleting accounts won't have any effect.

@SPArcheon no, there's a different deleted answer.

Journeyman Geek

o0

@SPArcheon there's an identical question on SU

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

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Q: What's the best way to get ants out of laptop keyboards?

What's the best way to gets ants out of a laptop?

keyboard cleaning

Journeyman Geek

Best stuff for cleaning keyboards is cyberclean, I can't seem to find the stuff anywhere tho

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Just no kids at all is the best prevention against ants, I agree!

Dude coinheringaahing

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Well, I can't disagree with that approach. Not putting food in your underwear is always a good idea :P

Journeyman Geek

12:46 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing is that a full roasted turkey in your pants, or are you happy to see me...

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Tinkeringbell :D

@Dudecoinheringaahing depends how you define food...... :P

runs away

Tinkeringbell

Aaand things are back to gross, well done.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

bowing from a safe distance

SPArcheon

@Tinkeringbell allow me.....

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@SPArcheon wrong target message

this is the one :D

SPArcheon

12:50 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 correct user, that's enough.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

hehe

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Things you put in your mouth, not in your pants.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@JourneymanGeek umm

no comment

:D

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Add "And are allowed to chew on" to that or it makes no sense still.

Journeyman Geek

and swallow?

I mean technically....

But lets not get too into the details

Tinkeringbell

12:55 PM

@JourneymanGeek I mean, there's a reason I went with chew, not swallow :P

But yeah, let's not do technicalities XD

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

Well I can safely assume nobody here is putting anything inside their underwear anyway, so not relevant to begin with. :-)

Dude coinheringaahing

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Assuming it counts as "putting [something] inside", what about tucking in your t-shirt into your underwear? :P

Journeyman Geek

that's a slightly wierd thing to do

Dude coinheringaahing

I'd imagine that of all the things we've just discussed, it's the least weird thing to do :P

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Dudecoinheringaahing why would one do it? It's just uncomfortable lol. :)

I mean, tuck it above the underwear.... it's pretty trivial...

Dude coinheringaahing

12:59 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I knew someone in school who would insist on tucking in the front of their shirt into their underwear, and leave the rest of it untucked. Not exactly sure why but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

SPArcheon

Discord ~ Ahem! Well, in any case, I suppose NOW ... to make my exit!

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Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Dudecoinheringaahing but.... how could you tell it's inside the underwear? lol

Dude coinheringaahing

I don't know how to describe it, but it just looks different to a shirt tucked into trousers

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

hmm

Got new task at home then. :D

(T-shirt for work isn't long enough)

If wife/kids asks wth I'm doing, I'll blame you! :P

Dude coinheringaahing

For best effects, I'd suggest using an actual shirt rather than a T-shirt (my school had a uniform) :P

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Feel free to :P

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

1:07 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing exactly, that's why I can do it only at home, got some "actual shirts" as you call it in the closet. ;)

Rob

1:21 PM

Why would it have to be done by themselves, as opposed to staff doing it?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

@Rob huh? Wrong room/context missing?

Rob

3:18 PM

@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 You?, then use the correct room.

Mithical

4:34 PM

...huh. I just got an email that my MSE question was closed. That's new...

(This one. Although personally I'd think answering it would be better than closing it... meh.)

Tinkeringbell

139

Q: "Question closed" notifications experiment results and graduation

Users have long been asking for and discussing the pros and cons of a feature to proactively inform the question asker when their question has been closed. Although the initial response many years ago was that after consideration we would not implement this feature (for a variety of reasons), fol...

discussion notifications closed-questions

"New" :P

Mithical

Yeah I'm just surprised that I got both a notification and an email.

Tinkeringbell

Seems normal to me...

> This excludes posts where the post owner has already edited the post, where the post is deleted or reopened, or where the post owner has indicated that they do not want to receive emails of this nature.

It doesn't exclude posts where the post owner has already seen the inbox notification... you might have a feature request there ;)

Rob

4:54 PM

Don't mess with Ants:

Army Ants Build Bridge to Invade Wasp Nest || ViralHog

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John Dvorak

Fun fact: ants can also build rafts that capture air and lets them survive on water

Luuklag

5:41 PM

o/

Tinkeringbell

Hey, vakantieganger!

Luuklag

Haha hey "harde" werker ;)

I saw Philippe had those job adds updated, bit no luck for you it appeara @Journ

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask V2

?

Luuklag

They changed US/UK remote to gmt-8 - gmt+1

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag Hey, I'm doing my best!

Dude coinheringaahing

6:37 PM

This appears to be status-completed? I can see the "Member for" on other users' profiles again, and so can others

Tinkeringbell

Give it a few hours/day to see if they update the answer. If not, raise a flag on it asking for such a tag tomorrow :)

Dude coinheringaahing

Is it even worth raising a flag rather than just editing it in myself (if unaddressed after a while)?

Tinkeringbell

Meh, just to be very, very correct ;) the edit will probably be from a staff member and look more official if you flag

Dude coinheringaahing

Ah, I wasn't sure if a flag would alert staff members as well here :P

Tinkeringbell

There are some us mods leave for staff, usually status tags and flags asking for things to be featured :)

Dude coinheringaahing

6:56 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing ..and Aaron's just updated it :P

Rob

7:30 PM

... and between the Bounty and a half dozen bumps in the past while it's getting more views / day than a post that is actually featured network wide.

Rob

7:40 PM

It's not driven much by the barely more than 1K views on MSO: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/profile-page - but they've got a script to see "last seen".

Mad Scientist

9:27 PM

@Rob there's been a surprising amount of activity on that meta post, despite the low visibility due to the score

It's an interesting experience being the minority opinion in this case. I knew MSE didn't care about this kind of privacy argument very much, I still didn't expect that much opposition.

Rob

9:44 PM

@MadScientist Once someone comes out into the open and interacts with others there's always some amount of privacy to be lost - and the competing right of others to some information. --- If we are to go without the "Last seen" then that throws us further down the slope of "do less", which we are rocketing down now. There's simply too many hit & runs, if you haven't known the person for a year or two and know (educated guess) that they'll reply / accept / etc. then

you're hoping for 3rd person interaction.

Mad Scientist

@Rob I think there is a huge difference between passive interactions and active ones. I simply expect the passive ones to be private by default

Rob

They can log out, then even employees can't 100% blame the logged off account holder; who usually uses that IP address. Even logged out they can view their own profile, to a limited extent, and get an idea if there's online activity that they might undertake. --- If I see someone's not been online for months I don't at-reply or expect them to respond to my messages / approve edits / etc. --- If they were last seen a few hours ago I'm happy to wait, thinking it's polite and not time wasted.

Dude coinheringaahing

Personally, I don't get the whole "check to see if the user is active before doing X" attitude. I take (non-Q&A) actions on the sites if I think someone should/needs to take that action, and no one has. I don't care if anyone else involved is still active. For example, if I comment asking for clarifications, I'll do it, regardless of whether they were last seen 5 minutes ago, or 10 years. Worst case scenario is that nothing changes

I liked Last Seen because it gave me a metric of how active some of the more "important" users were (e.g. mods), but I can easily live without it

Mad Scientist

10:07 PM

@Dudecoinheringaahing The only part I get is knowing whether a user is around at all anymore. And even that is not reliable.

I got another answer on a very old SO question a while ago, I can't do anything useful with it simply the question is not relevant anymore to me in the way I originally asked it years ago. Times change, old question are often likely to not be relevant anymore, and there is not really anything we can do about that

Rob

> "... I take (non-Q&A) actions on the sites if I think someone should/needs to take that action, and no one has. ..."

That's the problem: Do less, pass the buck. --- There have even been campaigns advocating that - and that's what's making some sites die a slow death.

Instead of polite interaction we have: Why was my question ________

Dude coinheringaahing

I don't really see what that has to do with my point. In case it wasn't clear, what I was saying is that who the specific user is rarely matters in interactions on the main/meta sites for me. How much rep they have, when they were last active, what their mother's maiden name was; user information is mostly irrelevant to me. What matters is that you do what you can to improve the quality of the sites.
Sometimes, that'll require you to nudge/ask someone else to do something (e.g. clarify their post), but how active that user is should very rarely, if ever, come into play

In fact, off the top of my head, I can't think of any time where I'd want to check how active a user is before taking an action, let alone need to. I mostly used Last Seen to commiserate about users leaving, especially those I got on well with

Journeyman Geek

10:45 PM

@Luuklag and added specific places they can hire

If it's time it's time I guess

I'm told it's being looked into - but I suspect stuff may take time to change if ever

Rob

11:01 PM

Each can have opinions and vote as they wish, the overwhelming opinion is:

Posts supporting "Last Seen" +243/-6: meta.stackexchange.com/a/368289/282094 and +186/-4: meta.stackexchange.com/a/368328/282094 and to a lesser extent: +44/0: meta.stackexchange.com/a/368339/282094 - etc. --- While the whole idea stands at: +32/-306.

~10x against.

or ~43 times against specifically "Last Seen" being removed.

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