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Meta Andrew T.

4:11 AM

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

6:47 AM

@MetaAndrewT. that's the reason for all the smoke(y) here? ;)

Meta Andrew T.

coincidentally ;)

actually, I just need that image to clip it as a custom emoji on Slack, and the first thing that came to my mind is to type the magic word on Chat.SE, instead of googling the image...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

7:03 AM

lol

You can also use Tavern as shortcut to copy toilet emoji, courtesy of our one and only @user400654. ;)

(plus, these days it's almost always in star board for even quicker access)

Meta Andrew T.

great tips, thanks! :p

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

My pleasure! For any tips related to toilets, you know who to ask.... :D

starting Area51 proposal Toilets.SE

Found a candidate for migration!

3

Q: Fetch toilets list using google maps places api

The Google Map's places list does not contain toilets in it, but I need to show toilets list on Google Maps. How do I show this data using a Google API?

Ryan M

@Shadow10YearsWizard hmmm, that seems to be missing the [flush] tag...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@RyanM won't worry about flush, that's the least of the public toilets problems. ;)

But nice it has positive score, turns out SO users do have some sense of humor/fun. ;)

user400654

7:21 AM

🥱

Tinkeringbell

Oh, nice square :)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

I see something yellow! :D

Let's zoom in...

Since @user400654 appears to be tired...

sdc coffee user

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Americano for @user

Tinkeringbell

7:36 AM

:( Only squares here :(

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Upgrade your fonts! ;)

emojipedia.org/emoji-12.0

@Tink what OS you got? Looks like Windows 10 added those in some not-so-recent update.

Tinkeringbell

I did usually see them on my own PC (windows 10) but not on this work laptop (also windows 10 :P)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

So we can now even press the Windows Key plus semicolon to open the emoji dialog. (Learned this just now, lol 😁)

@Tinkeringbell so probably didn't install updates for long time...

I really don't like the change Chrome made, that it now loads a tab only when you actually go to it, rather then when it's being opened. With slow computer, it means I have to wait few seconds every time until it's loaded.

Tinkeringbell

@Shadow10YearsWizard Ehh, it's the work laptop. I think that one is better up to date than my own PC XD

Though it's a bit better now that I can choose 'update and shutdown' on the PC and don't have to wait for it to update and restart before I can shut it down.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Tinkeringbell weird, so maybe it's only for Home edition of Windows.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

8:36 AM

Time for the daily Toast & Coffee! (that's how I spoil myself while working from home)

sdc toast for Ollie

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'toast'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

9:05 AM

I frequently see squares here as my main machine runs Windows 8

Luuklag

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog Squares here as well, running a macintosh

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Weird, Mac should be more supportive of emojis, being more graphics oriented...

Luuklag

9:20 AM

let me check if FF is the culprit then

Nope, chrome also parses a square for me.

In the HTML it renders as a square as well... This emoji appears to be introduced in 2019, so perhaps no update on the emoji character set since then. Probably got to blame the IT policy

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

So, anyone here can explain in simple terms how the new Corona vaccines work? I read about mRNA and stuff, but... big words, little meaning without spending much time actually reading about it. ;)

Do they inject synthetic DNA to the body?

@Luuklag yeah, it's part of the OS, not browser.

I also figure companies might just block/remove such font sets, as they're used for non-work related things.

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard that depends on your definition of synthetic. What usually happens is that they combine a vector (for example an uncommon flu variety) with dna from the coronavirus. So that you build antibodies against the virus, without getting sick

@Shadow10YearsWizard nah our IT guys aren't so suffisticated. Probably just turned off some sort of auto-updating

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag that's standard procedure for vaccines? Or just for the Corona?

@Luuklag huh, yup. :)

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard Standard for modern vaccines. Previously they would find a way to inactivate the virus, but that is far more riskier. These methods are still used in China I think. That's probably also the reason the "west" doesn't want their vaccines

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Hey, I see a name I didn't see for looong time....

!!/coffee Jon

SmokeDetector

9:33 AM

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Espresso for @Jon

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag oh.... I see. Thanks!

But... if you mess with the DNA of the virus... isn't there a risk to develop a mutation of it that would be even more nasty than the original?

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard In theory, always, but that doesn't need human interference to happen.

the WHO has a part about this: who.int/teams/health-product-and-policy-standards/… I bet that can explain more accurate then I can

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Yeah, but it requires.. reading. :D

!!/lazy Shadow

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'lazy'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:)

Luuklag

9:47 AM

@Ollie I made a screenshot of this a few days back, trying to flag for spam. Then I got an error submitting the flag.

Luuklag

10:43 AM

I wonder what the FP rate of "Nutrition" is

rene

depends per site but I expect it to be high on Cooking.se and PhysicalFitness.se, to name a few

rene

11:03 AM

@Tinkeringbell I did had a link ready for that DIY post: diy.stackexchange.com/help/on-topic but you're too much on top of things ....

Tinkeringbell

I saw the close-vote comment XD

I'll put myself on a 5 minute delay. But then Geek will just beat me to stuff :P

rene

Okay, I'll up my game then. ;)

Luuklag

I saw this one in the delete vote list, but I think it's a good one to keep. Perhaps even remove the dupe, in hindsight?meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356654/…

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

Is using the dupehammer to reopen and re-close a question with the same duplicate to clear pending delete votes allowed?

Tinkeringbell

@Luuklag Do what you want with it... I've already declined deleting it for OP in a chatroom somewhere on here. It's a weird situation where they wanted to know 1 thing but asked for another.

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

11:12 AM

(Reopening clears pending delete votes)

Tinkeringbell

They closed the question as a dupe themselves as a result.

Luuklag

I voted to re-open, as I don't think de dupe is all that accurate

rene's answer is far more valuable

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

I don't agree with the given dupe, but I'd replace the dupe with meta.stackexchange.com/questions/306397/…, since that appears to be the crux of their question and my answer there addresses it well. (@rene)

Since they self-closed, it means they were satisfied by it, so I'd add it instead of replacing it, but it's up to the hammerer to decide

rene

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog I added the dupe instead of replacing. A compromise.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

11:52 AM

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog I won't do it, it feels wrong. Maybe allowed in the sense it won't cause suspension or warning from a mod, but not something we should be doing, IMO.

Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog

Moderators have deleted and undeleted to clear pending delete votes, and that's not considered an abuse of mod abilities.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Proper way is to keep an eye over the question, and if deleted, flag for moderator to undelete.

@SonictheK-DayHedgehog sure, because they're mods.

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard I followed it, so I wonder if I get notified upon deletion

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

The dupehammer power is one-time only, so should be used wisely, not for any other purpose than it's meant for.

@Luuklag nope, not yet. Only closure.

They don't want people to rant about their deleted questions too much.

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard fair enough

haha quick with gathering 2 downvotes. I totallyyyy didn't expect that to happen: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356792/… xD

Rob

12:00 PM

But with one up you're still ahead; despite the appearance.

Luuklag

haha thx rob

Rob

The question is "correct", and with the comment it's twice as useful; feel free to add it to the question.

Luuklag

Did you see my comment reply @Rob?

Rob

That's why the downvotes, people read randomly, vote randomly too sometimes - not helpful.

Luuklag

12:15 PM

@Rob, I think I fail to understand your comment

or I fail to write a good reply

I mean that the second link in your comment is the third link in the page

Rob

Also, where it links to (2nd link), which differs from the main Reputation page. — Rob 20 mins ago

Luuklag, haha; you counted by starting at zero. The second link, from the URL in your question is the first link in my comment (conventional counting); which leads to this text that is not the same as the 2nd link in my comment: "- Suggested edit is accepted: +2 (up to +1000 total per user)". --- Have a ☕. — Rob 9 mins ago

Luuklag

@Rob so what is the problem exactly with that second link from the page

as the main reputation page is also linked at the same page, as third link

Rob

So, I'll just go delete my comments, and you can do whatever; and your question will have no comments under it.

I don't know why you can't see that "up to + 1000 total" falls into the same category as what you complain of; and that the link in your question points to it.

Luuklag

Ah now I get it. You mean to say that that 1000 also lacks a thousands seperator

I thought along the lines of being the wrong link

Rob

Yes, and the link in your question leads directly to it. Mentioning that in your question doubles the importance of your question; making it half as "nit picky" (your words). --- Thus my comment is a suggested improvement to your question.

Luuklag

12:28 PM

Yeah totally get that now, sorry. Will add after my meeting

Rob

Whoosh lands with a thud.

Luuklag

12:58 PM

@Rob edited

Rob

1:12 PM

Looks good, and the improvement is evident; maybe you'll get a couple of reversals too:

Even in its original form it's not clear why they were deserved.

Mast

1:24 PM

Please remove VLQ answer @ MSE

ArtOfCode

boom

Mast

Gracias.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag any meat in the meeting?

@Luuklag now it's +4. Magic!

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard that depends on your definition of meat ;)

@Shadow10YearsWizard Its the tavern effect

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag food! :P

@Luuklag nitpicking: you miss a '

Also, I upvoted before arriving here. ;)

Luuklag

1:36 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard nope, just boring zoom

We did have some food last week during a Zoom meeting though. We got delivered "mailbox"tapas

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag no eating during that? I sometimes drink coffee during meetings in zoom... ;)

@Luuklag oh lol, good!

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard #me2

@Shadow10YearsWizard yeah was more of a social gathering.

But the concept is excellent. They just vacuum all products, in precut portions etc, and make it so that it fits in your regular mailbox, so you don't have to be at home to take delivery of it

And it was also by a local company that does a lot of catering for us usually, buisness lunches etc. So good to support your locals ;)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag yep, win-win.

Luuklag

The being yaakoved meme already got 8 upvotes @Shadow10YearsWizard

Journeyman Geek

Its a good meme brent :D

Luuklag

1:42 PM

@JNat Cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/20003780/%c4%b0stanbul

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag wow, nice! That's a Yaakov Effect for you. :D

Anything he touch, turns to ~~gold~~ upvote.

Huh, that was weird. This spam was written initially in Russian then edited during grace period to be in English.

sdc report meta.stackexchange.com/questions/356796

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard Post 1: Already recently reported [ MS ]

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

switching between "d" and "f"

Luuklag

@Shadow10YearsWizard gone

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

1:59 PM

@Luuklag thanks!

Luuklag

2:14 PM

Hmmm you cant do a single space in code markup in a comment?

Can I do it here: ` `

nope

Νеvеrꭑoꭇе

2:30 PM

@Luuklag And to be fair AZD1222 from Oxford... is a chimpanzees adenovirus replication-deficient viral vector vaccine too....

Luuklag

2:44 PM

@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе good to know

Hmmmmm more squares

Spevacus

3:44 PM

@Journey @Tink Think you could sweep this up? meta.stackexchange.com/a/356803/622284

Post is gone now, user still remains.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Got 6 red flags.

sdc tea Spe

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of lemon tea for @Spe

DavidPostill

@Luuklag Have you tried one of the unicode space characters?

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

` `

Spevacus

!!/tea Shado

SmokeDetector

3:47 PM

@Spevacus brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @Shado

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Shado of Shadow

rene

next: meta.stackexchange.com/a/356805/158100

Luuklag

test

Spevacus

Sent a flag that-a-way.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@rene custom flagged, asking to suspend.

rene

3:49 PM

no use, lets r/a flag

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

hmm..... feature request: after two posts deleted as spam/offensive don't let the user make another post for a full hour. What d'ya all think?

Spevacus

@Shadow10YearsWizard It's a rather persistent user.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

This way it will give mods time to wake up and nuke before it's too messy.

Luuklag

Hmmm chat is buggy much

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

No?

Works fine for me.

!!/blame buggy chat

SmokeDetector

3:50 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

huh.

Spevacus

!!/blame

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Thought it was fixed....

SmokeDetector

@Spevacus I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.

Spevacus

Really strange.

rene

3:50 PM

Did anyone hear something from @Luuklag lately?

Spevacus

Anyway

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Regression?

!!/rev

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard iBug/Lily cc3d9bb (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 000webhostapp\.com by tripleee)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

It changed host...

Luuklag

Hmmm chat is buggy much

Spevacus

3:51 PM

Yeah Osiris failed over.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Probably that host didn't apply the fix.

Spevacus

I pulled the most recent changes in in CHQ, so I have no idea why it'd still be acting up.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Spevacus you're not hosting it, iBug does.

Spevacus

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 mins ago, by Spevacus

!!/pull

Luuklag

2

Q: Timeout logging into chat

Is anyone else unable to log into chat rooms today? Other parts of the site seem to be working fine but trying to enter chat room listing invariably results in timeout.

support chat

Spevacus

3:52 PM

Should grab all recent code changes.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Well, something wasn't grabbed.... ;)

sdc grab Spe

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'grab'.

Spevacus

Apparently! :(

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

See? ;)

Spevacus

pls no grabberino

Luuklag

3:53 PM

3

Q: Timeout logging into chat

Is anyone else unable to log into chat rooms today? Other parts of the site seem to be working fine but trying to enter chat room listing invariably results in timeout.

support chat

Spevacus

Poor Luuklag is double-posting :(

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag umm..... OK, we got it.

Spevacus

I don't think he's intentionally doing that.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Try clearing your cache, @Luuklag

;)

Luuklag

Yeah It times out when sending, but then it doesnt apparently

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

3:54 PM

@Luuklag happens to me too when connection is buggy, just don't click the "try again" before you reload to see if it was posted.

Luuklag

well im off anyways, so I won't bother you guys anymore ;)

Spevacus

Later! :D

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@Luuklag cya!

Meta Andrew T.

Am I alive?

No, wait, that's the wrong question...

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

@MetaAndrewT. no

!!/revive Meta

SmokeDetector

4:03 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'revive'.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

:(

Great now there are two Smokeys

!!/coffee Ollie

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Espresso for @Ollie

@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Americano for @Ollie

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

lol

!!/blame two Smokeys

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard It's Ryan M's fault.

@Shadow10YearsWizard I hit an error while trying to run that command; run !!/errorlogs for details.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

One fixed, one isn't.

sdc location

SmokeDetector

4:05 PM

@Shadow10YearsWizard teward/Osiris 0458a30 (SmokeDetector: Merge pull request #5127 from Charcoal-SE/auto-blacklist-1605701338)

@Shadow10YearsWizard iBug/Lily cc3d9bb (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 000webhostapp\.com by tripleee)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

too bad iBug isn't pingable, can't ask him to pull changes.

user400654

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

!!/alive

sdc tea please

@Mast per your comment... far from fixed, or actually the opposite. Whatever they did, they killed it instead of fixing it. Poor bot.

:D

Mast

Bloody heck.

!!/location

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Better having two than zero, IMO.

SmokeDetector

4:19 PM

@Mast teward/Osiris cc3d9bb (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 000webhostapp\.com by tripleee)

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Any chance to ask whoever killed Smokey to undo it?

Mast

It's not dead.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Maybe you're a Master? ;)

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@Shadow10YearsWizard Kinda sorta

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

oh now you are.

Well, you're buggy, Smokey.

Better let you rest.

Mast

4:21 PM

It's still reporting in HQ, not as much as I expect it should be doing though.

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

Let's wait until bluefeet check this, hopefully before 6-8 [time slots] pass. :D

Mast

We'll keep an eye on it.

Yea, still not dead in CHQ.

Not picking up a lot though.

Could be chance.

Victor VosMottor

!!/alive

SmokeDetector

@VictorVosMottor You should totally drop that and use jQuery

Victor VosMottor

!!/location

SmokeDetector

4:35 PM

@VictorVosMottor teward/Osiris cc3d9bb (SmokeDetector: Auto watch of 000webhostapp\.com by tripleee)

Spevacus

4:52 PM

@VictorVosMottor I have to ask that you please do not engage with network trolls at all. In comments, in chat, or anywhere. Any interaction at all encourages them to continue doing exactly what we do not want them to do.

Tinkeringbell

^ That. Any accounts can come my way again :)

Spevacus

Sure thing ;D

Victor VosMottor

@Spevacus ok, you are right.

rene

I was about to say the same

Shadow 10 Years Wizard

5:46 PM

Off topic turtle on MSE (needz 0 moar del votes)

Spevacus