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12:08 AM
I'm wondering something: in 2015, all the previous proposals for non-English SO sites that had reached 100% commitment were closed and deleted, with the team stating that it would take some time before they can take on a new language. Does this mean that if space opens up for a new language, they will simply accept one of the previous 100% commitment proposals and put it in beta, or will they have to be re-proposed and go through the process again?
Some of them went through the process as far back as 2011, so it may be worth checking if there is still interest.
 
Rob
12:32 AM
Physics, Chemistry, and Biology.SE cover the subject; ask about the origin there.
 
user302202
1:17 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog Ancient closed Area51 proposals have no value.
 
@MSOGA The proposals did reach 100% commitment. So technically, according to the written contract between users and SE, SE still has to launch a beta site for them. (It doesn't specify how much time, just that they have to.)
 
user302202
1:29 AM
I don't think they consider themselves obliged to. The Arabic proposal for closed with full commitment with the reason "RTL is hard".
 
user302202
Chinese proposal got closed with the reason "it's old, people moved on" - to Segment Fault, presumably.
 
1:42 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog um, no. They don't have to do anything. There is no contract.
You'd do well to remember what SE is. It's a benevolently dictated pseudo-democratic Q&A site. Not a society governed by contracts and laws and a justice system.
 
@MSOGA Don't you mean, Chinese Emigration?
@ArtOfCode Ah, I remember; they dropped the words "democratic, community-driven" from the description of Area 51 recently.
 
Saying that SE has to do such and such because something says they might comes across really badly.
 
2 hours ago, by Sonic the Wizard Werehog
Some of them went through the process as far back as 2011, so it may be worth checking if there is still interest.
 
I would agree that they're worth revisiting if the capacity exists. But it's not my decision, or yours, and it's certainly nobody's place but SE's to dictate what they must or must not do.
 
2:42 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog I'd think restarting the process would make sense.
And there's probably a whole can of worms about running sites in languages none potentially few of the staff can read.
I'd actually think you'd need folks you explicitly trust, have a robust internal moderation system... and you'd still have issues.
and I don't think the old option of "hiring a CM to handle the site" scales that well.
The original core of the russian language sites basically came "prebuilt" and they still provide ... kinda unique issues on chat (and that's true of some of the other SOs)
 
8 hours ago, by Aibobot
I actually tend to... make em spicier?
I read it as "make em spider", thanks morning call...
 
@Bookends ._.
I had 2 packs of noodles and my normal dinner. Then two international microwave rolls...
("Sczuan paneer rolls - which are an indian interpretation of chinese food, in a wrap, which is very much a western thing...")
 
lol XD
 
user302202
> When we're ready to start the next language, we will post here, and reach out to the folks that showed interest in the associated proposal. I wish we could do all of them, right now, because of how successful the sites we've completed have been. We'll keep working, and promise to keep folks abreast. area51.meta.stackexchange.com/q/20987
 
user302202
For some values of "working" and "abreast".
 
user302202
2:56 AM
Adverb: abreast (not comparable)
  1. Side by side and facing forward. [First attested from around (1350 to 1470.)]
  2. (figuratively) Alongside; parallel to. [First attested in the mid 17th century.]
  3. Informed, well-informed, familiar, acquainted. [First attested in the mid 17th century.]
  4. Followed by of or with: up to a certain level or line; equally advanced. [First attested in the mid 17th century.]She believes it is important to keep abreast of new scientific developments.
  5. (nautical) Side by side; also, opposite; on a line with the vessel's beam. [First attested in the late 17th century.]
  6. (obsolete) At the same time; simultaneously.
 
user302202
Most likely, they are going to keep us side by side and facing forward.
 
"side by side", "parallel to", or "opposite". Choose one.
 
3:21 AM
I don't think abreast is the right word ;p
appraised?
 
3:31 AM
perhaps the intention was the 3rd definition: "informed" ... but why chose "abreast" instead...
 
 
2 hours later…
5:12 AM
@Bookends Language differences across people?
 
Well, while it's understandable, it certainly won't help ESL...
 
 
2 hours later…
7:06 AM
@JourneymanGeek I noticed that my [cv-pls] messages are also being moved to Chimney in addition to Smokey posts, whereas it wasn't done in the past. Was there a relevant discussion about it that I missed?
 
7:54 AM
Do you mean it should be moved to the Trash instead?
 
8:23 AM
@SonictheWizardWerehog yes, they are. No, we have not discussed that and please don't tell me you want to have a relevant discussion about that.
 
Who Moved My Message?
 
@rene No, I'm just asking about it.
Feel free to move them as you please.
 
12 messages moved to Chimney
 
@rene I want to have a relevant discussion. Sounds delicious
 
don't push it @M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ
 
8:25 AM
I'm not pushing it, I'm punning it
Nevermind
 
@M.A.R.>_> delicious discussion. I'm hungry
 
 
3 hours later…
11:24 AM
echo echo echo
@rene KABOOM
@rene KABONG
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ what drama did I miss this time? sob
Oh
 
14 messages moved to Chimney
 
Rob
Dharma meditation - left, right, or not at all.
 
12:03 PM
Huh?
 
okay, nvm...
 
12:34 PM
@SonictheWizardWerehog naw. I just switched scripts. It's not an issue once they are handled right?
 
 
3 hours later…
user302202
3:15 PM
@shog9 happy birthday man!
3
 
user302202
4:22 PM
> I can tell you every IP of every server I've ever installed...at least, the last way I left it. I can tell you what it does, what firewall rules it needs, what permissions the apps need, where the code is, and why the code is the way it is. I just can't remember faces. -- Nick Craver at 5:27 AM - 9 Mar 2019
 
user302202
Maybe it's because servers don't have faces. Nick may be putting too much of himself into system administration.
 
4:36 PM
@MSOGA nothing some googly eyes cannot fix
One of the perils of being a MSE mod - I want to post an answer, but not want it to be taken as official. But its enough of my opinion I don't want to sock it.
 
Time for a disclaimer? Or just to not answer at all, it comes with modding that there's some things you just don't say ;)
 
user302202
Post the answer on your blog instead?
 
I don't use my blog for SE stuff at this point of time
@Tinkeringbell well - its not controversial or anything
 
This is my official opinion. Deal with it
 
@rene that's easy
 
4:41 PM
you're welcome. You may use it without attribution
I'm that cool
 
This is my mod hat speaking, not myself. Help.
 
@Bookends Sorry. It won't come off!
 
user302202
 
user302202
My notebook just suffered a panic attack, apparently:
 
user302202
 
user302202
4:47 PM
95% is not that bad, Chrome OS. Some dev mixed up "used" and "remaining".
 
user302202
5:16 PM
@ArtOfCode artofcode.co.uk/elections shows Unix site, which does not have an active election.
 
7:06 PM
@MSOGA post an angry bug report on their meta site!
 
7:50 PM
I have a number of positively-received questions that ended up being closed for procedural reasons. Are moderators generally willing to entertain requests to reopen and re-close those questions so that those count as positively-received questions for the Curious/Inquisitive/Socratic badge?
For instance, valid questions about April Fool's pranks, or one case where I was the first to report a bug but an SE dev answered a newer question instead and closed mine as a duplicate.
If the latest closure is when the question is more than 60 days old, it's not counted as "closed" for the purposes of the badge.
 
> o that those count as positively-received questions for the Curious/Inquisitive/Socratic badge?
No
 
@JourneymanGeek Why not?
 
It's abuse of mod tools.
Please don't request those sorts of things.
 
We're not going to spend time opening and closing questions so someone can get a badge.
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8:13 PM
@JourneymanGeek But, but
 
Hey I have no idea what's going on, lemme read up
. . .
I have no idea what's going on
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ in that case I'm overruling your objections.
 
But, but,
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Absolutely not
 
8:18 PM
Do Moderators Need to Be Cooperative or Not
Makoto, nice
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ No.
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ Yes we do not
 
Posts a link to that old 2014 blog post about Why Stack Overflow Sucks
 
also don't forget, mods are volunteers and we don't want to make extra work for overselves
so we need better reasons than "But I'll get a badge!"
 
A semicolon is better than an exclamation mark
But I'll get a badge;
 
8:21 PM
true;
 
user302202
Brandon Benjamin is a new employee, the first time someone got the employee bit since last November.
 
user302202
Likely this person, assuming this name is not particularly common.
 
Teehee
 
user302202
It surely is confusing.
 
Two 1-rep accounts always reminds me of spammers
 
user302202
8:22 PM
Well it seems he's in marketing, so
 
Stack Overflow Brain Enhancer™ T9000
 
user302202
 
Debug requests?
 
user302202
LinkedIn profile banner.
 
@MSOGA PM: "Yay! Metric is going up. Win!" Developer a couple weeks later: "Why do we have 2500 open issues?"
 
8:32 PM
10
Q: Is Bhutan the only carbon neutral/negative country?

Andrew GrimmTwitter moments recently had a moment about Bhutan being the only carbon neutral country in the world: Why Bhutan Is All Alone in the Carbon-Neutral Nation Club and one tweet in the Twitter moments said Here's why Bhutan is the only carbon-neutral country in the world. The claim is also rep...

Howly crap, how is that even possible . . .
 
user302202
But is it butane neutral?
 
10:25 PM
What is the purpose of this room?
 
it's a tavern
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generally containing random chit-chat
occasional stars
and lots of backlog
 
user302202
10:42 PM
Noun: porpoise (plural porpoises)
  1. A small cetacean of the family Phocoenidae, related to whales and dolphins.
  2. (Canada, US, imprecisely) Any small dolphin.
Verb: porpoise (third-person singular simple present porpoises, present participle porpoising, simple past and past participle porpoised)
  1. (intransitive) Said of an air-breathing aquatic animal such as a porpoise or penguin: To repeatedly jump out of the water to take a breath and dive back in a continuous motion.
  2. (intransitive) Said of an aircraft: to...
 
user302202
The room needs more of it.
 
11:38 PM
!!/watch indiaevisas\.org
 
@SonictheWizardWerehog You don't have code privileges, but I've created PR#2665 for you.
 

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