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12:54 AM

Morning!

... Well, it's not morning for me but...

1:28 AM

@ShadowWizard given my asthma and allergies there's a chance. Apparently the army really doesn't like food allergies, and I'm allergic to... pretty much every fruit I think, although I don't react to all of them

Catija

Fruit? Wow.

:(

Mithrandir

Indeed. Rather annoying, as I actually like fruit :(

Catija

Are there any you can have? Or anything you can do to them to make them edible?

I ask because I have a friend with an onion allergy but it's OK if they're cooked.

Mithrandir

Well, I broke out in hives from a loquat a couple years ago. Ever since then, apples, oranges, kiwis, tomatoes, etc make my mouth all tingly and sometimes trigger an asthma attack.

I don't usually eat cooked fruit, although I don't remember reacting to the baked apples

Current theory is that I'm allergic to pectin, but I really actually need to see an allergist. Hopefully in the next few weeks.

(the other theory is oral allergy syndrome)

Catija

Ah, so maybe stuff with low-pectin amounts...

Journeyman Geek

1:36 AM

o0

Catija

It's funny, loquats aren't really seen in the US much (in my experience) but in my dad's neighborhood, the trees are everywhere, so I grew up eating them.

Mithrandir

We happen to have a tree in our backyard... but I'm not allowed to touch them.

Catija

:( They're really good. Sorry you can't have them any more.

Mithrandir

They're fairly common here.

Yeah... me too :P

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir eh, out here, they'd probably just stick a band on you and throw you into a desk/stay out job ;p

Mithrandir

1:40 AM

They're not exactly running out of candidates for those here, I think ;)

Anyway... insomnia is not fun, so I'll try to head back to sleep.

Catija

Rest!

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir apparently every body matters

and we don't have excemptions unless you're dangerously insane

Journeyman Geek

1:53 AM

Even then sometimes ;p

Catija

Eeesh.

Journeyman Geek

hm

I didn't know smokey picked up on those

Catija

Yeah. They don't usually last long enough to get here.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

4:57 AM

@Catija My mom likes to pick fruit from random trees

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog that sounds dangerous

seems pretty pointless as spam

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek They posted the same spam answer on this question

Journeyman Geek

errrrr

without the number...

someone trying to code my first spambot live?

rene

6:48 AM

→ 54 messages moved to Chimney

Optimus Prime

last year, SO announced they are going to start a bug bounty program in Hackerone. Still they are running it as a private program in hackerone?

rene

yes meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309648/…

Optimus Prime

@rene on that post, David said that they haven't launched it yet. But as of now, I believe it exist. This is for another purpose. Can you confirm they're running it?

Journeyman Geek

> We are in the process of hiring a Director of Information Security who will be responsible for moving the entire program forward, including launching the security bug bounty program.

I haven't heard anything about that yet

I mean, my official sources are mostly the same as you guys. (and I've not heard anything off the bits of the security community I am in touch with)

Optimus Prime

7:03 AM

Me too. But this is to provide as a PoC to H1.

If any official/ participant confirms it, I can proceed.

rene

@OptimusPrime it exists for sure, based on David's response I concluded they are not running it.

Mithrandir

7:39 AM

@JourneymanGeek see also Request for comment: Stack Overflow is hiring a Director of Information Security

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir ya, a good chunk of the top rated answers is folks I hang out with online

and this is certainly the sort of gossip I'd hope to be plugged into ;)

Optimus Prime

8:01 AM

The job listing stackoverflow.com/jobs/168625/… is closed. Think they got one.

Shadow Wizard

hmm.. I wonder, how many of you here got email from Sam?

Optimus Prime

who is sam?

Shadow Wizard

haha, turns out just pure spam or even scam. Will report to Google.

rene

@ShadowWizard I don't have friends ...

Optimus Prime

Last week, I started blogging about security and really happy how it's going. It's going too high than my expectation

Shadow Wizard

8:06 AM

Sam is friend of everyone.

Optimus Prime

stats in 1 week

@ShadowWizard not mine. not yet

Shadow Wizard

@OptimusPrime good!

Optimus Prime

@Sha wait. How did he got your email?

rene

He got hacked ...

Optimus Prime

@ShadowWizard thanks

rene

8:08 AM

Or he emailed Sam first ...

Shadow Wizard

@OptimusPrime my profile, I have it there as image

So it's likely not a bot, just human spammer.

Optimus Prime

hmm. I added my email in blog as username[at]gmail[dot]com like many others. Old bots can't find it

A website like Hackerone is launched last month (Antihack Me). I joined 1 week ago. Their own page says the minimum bounty is $100. I found severe issues like Stored XSS, IDOR, Unrestricted file access, etc. Lots of normal bugs are there too.

3 days before, they closed their own program and mailed me saying everyone who reported critical issues will get a swag.

I've 9 reports (5 of them are critical including account takeover). And all I am getting is a swag?

They claim that they're the First bug bounty platform in Singapore. Is it true? @JourneymanGeek

Journeyman Geek

IDK ;p

Shadow Wizard

antihack.me

rene

Their devs promised no-one would find anything severe. When they got 10,000 reports with a wide-range of issues they had no other option then to fire the dev and kill the bounty program or they would go bankrupt

Optimus Prime

8:17 AM

hmm. it's easy to claim though. If you said so, no one's going to ask you about it

Mithrandir

@rene ...kill the dev and fire the bounty program

On an unrelated note, I found the staff blame wheel.

Shadow Wizard

@OptimusPrime contact her. :)

Optimus Prime

@rene The fun part is that, the team behind it claims that most of them are hall of famers in facebook, google, etc.

rene

once you switch to the other side, things start to look different

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard ooh, Its within walking distance of where I live

Bit of an odd place for a hipster tech company

Somewhat Memorable Name

8:23 AM

@OptimusPrime these people?

Optimus Prime

@ShadowWizard Found about the program in a facebook group. 2 or 3 from the team are members of the group. So I can contact them on the group. but they are not responding to question asks about bounty. neither via fb nor via mail

Somewhat Memorable Name

oh,

> Our Hackers are in the hall of fame of the following companies:
Uber/Facebook/Google/Dell/Paypal/Dropbox/Apple and many more...

but probably not the devs

Optimus Prime

@SomewhatMemorableName yeah. but they should have tested it before launching publicly

@SomewhatMemorableName in the list, Dexter is one of the member in the fb group. Another one is Benjamin and I can't find him in the list

@ShadowWizard her photo in the site looks like a doll

Somewhat Memorable Name

It's... kind of interesting that 3 of them worked on SG Mining before

Optimus Prime

i.stack.imgur.com/itxxu.png .

@SomewhatMemorableName SG mining is a client of them now

Journeyman Geek

8:32 AM

hm

also seems more admin peeps than hackers?

Optimus Prime

since they have lots of issues, don't have to worry about sponsor

Journeyman Geek

hmm

There's a guy who built a massive mining setup for a friend....

I wonder if that guy is the friend

rene

9:42 AM

delv-pls 20K no fun meta.stackexchange.com/a/312975/158100

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

9:53 AM

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Q: Why is the rep threshold for commenting set specifically to 50?

Please note: this is NOT a request to change the reputation required to comment everywhere. Rather, this is a neutral support question asking about the existing limit. I'm wondering why the minimum reputation required to make comments was set specifically to 50 reputation, and not some other num...

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "Jeff thought it was a good idea" ;p

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Please read until the final sentence.

Journeyman Geek

"No one has any better ideas"

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I don't want to closehammer this

but...

8

Q: Lower commenting threshold to 1 rep

I know it's like it is for some reason, but on Gaming we get a lot of new users that post comments as answers because they have 1 rep. Is it possible to lower the rep requirement for commenting to 1 rep? What is the official reason for it being 50?

discussion feature-request status-declined comments privileges

What's changed from Jeff's answer here?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Like the FAQ, that answer only explains the presence of a hurdle, not why it's specifically set to 50. You could equally make the two bulleted assertions about 25-rep users.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog well 25 is too easy? and 100 too hard?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek On MSE we allow 5-rep users to comment. Additionally, on all sites, most of the system trusts you to not spam at 10 rep (the FAQ cites spam as a reason for a hurdle), upvoting and flagging privileges are given at 15 rep, and chatting at 20 rep.

Journeyman Geek

MSE is odd though

on MSE we're using the SE engine for shudder discussion

MSE is not really a good example of... anything

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow I want a concrete answer, not opinionated discussion.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog you're going to have trouble getting the logic of SE until you realise a lot of it is totally arbitrary

then tweaked

not everything was data scienced the crap out of. Some of it was simply scienced, bathtub gin style

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog you don't ask how to use a feature, so it can't be a support question as far as I can tell.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard oh it isn't a support question any more?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:07 AM

@ShadowWizard Read the tag wiki of support.

@JourneymanGeek It definitely still is.

Journeyman Geek

aww

I'd throw it a non hammer dupe closevote if it was

but I don't want to get into a tag edit war

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog eh, you wrote it. You could put whatever you like there, it does not make it official.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Making a tag edit would deprive you from using your Chaos Emerald.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog That's what I want lol

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard It was given a stamp of approval by two other users

Journeyman Geek

10:09 AM

then I can CV it without closehammering it

unless editing the tag back in, which I'm sure you would do, closehammers it.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog only if SE staff will approve that "Why is something working this way?" can be a support question I'll agree, sorry. Nothing personal.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek It's not a dupe because none of the answers explain the specific threshold of 50. The same arguments could equally be employed to support a limit of 75 or 100.

Shadow Wizard

For me, support is "How to use", and "Why is it like that" is discussion.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I think its a dupe.

I don't want to use my closehammer on it

Shadow Wizard

What is dupe? @Sonic question? Of what?

Journeyman Geek

10:11 AM

on the gripping hand, editing it, close voting then editing back is abusive

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@ShadowWizard If there's a definite, non-opinionated reason for something, that only SE staff can answer, it's not a discussion.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard meta.stackexchange.com/questions/71368/…

definate non opinionated reasons? maybe. SE Staff answered? Emeritus and current.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow It's not a dupe of that, because...

2 mins ago, by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek It's not a dupe because none of the answers explain the specific threshold of 50. The same arguments could equally be employed to support a limit of 75 or 100.

Shadow Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog why not? They can also discuss things. Tag isn't based on possible answers, but rather only question contents.

You can add a new tag definite-answer-required. @Sonic

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow I'm not looking for people's opinions on why the TSA decided they wanted to screen snacks from people's carry-on baggage. I want to know why the TSA decided to do it.

@ShadowWizard Meta tags are not permitted.

Journeyman Geek

10:14 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog in that vein, you'd say a question asking why the limit isn't 21.5 would be unique too

Shadow Wizard

Anyway, this was something Jeff decided back in the early days of SO as far as I can tell. I doubt anyone in the current SE team can give you full and real answer. @Sonic

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

20 mins ago, by Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Please read until the final sentence.

Shadow Wizard

They can guess and assume, same as any user.

It's not in the codebase.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

There's obviously a documented reason why they decided to do nothing to it.

Journeyman Geek

//mwahahah BECAUSE I CAN!!!!

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

10:16 AM

Many years later

Somewhat Memorable Name

It has been like that since 2010 (Jeff's blog), but I couldn't find the discussion about arbitrary number

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek nice, yeah. Probably best answers Ano will get, but meh... let's leave it like this. :)

@SomewhatMemorableName to be honest this smells badly of scam. Can't find anything in quick search and honestly don't care enough, but won't be surprised if that whole "hackers" company isn't real at all, just some scam to mine crypto money or even hack those who "take part". /cc @Optimus

Would be awesome irony.

Any company calling itself "#1 in [this or that]" is suspicious.

Who are they to decide they are #1?

And easy to find more suspicious things, but hard to prove anything of course.

@Mithrandir well, my brother has life threatening allergy to Mango. Still, army gave him 72 profile (?) and he served as officer.

rene

@ShadowWizard Our company is ranked #42 in yellow submarines, it is a race to the bottom, we hope to end lower next year

Somewhat Memorable Name

10:34 AM

Oh well, it seems the answer to "why 50 (or any arbitrary number) rep" is to ask Jeff directly...

(did I just WP:BEANS?)

rene

@SomewhatMemorableName Just take a giant S as present with you and knock on his door

Martin James

I don't understand why some users dislike the number 50. It's a nice, round number. It's half of of 100, and twice 25. What's to dislike?

Somewhat Memorable Name

If else, all the discussion on SO UserVoice has been deleted, so no logs related to older site discussion

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@SomewhatMemorableName Still there, will give you a little time to find it

Somewhat Memorable Name

@MartinJames Change all reputation needed to be multiples of 13, or consists of number 4 only.

Journeyman Geek

10:38 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName I don't think they used uservoice for very long tho

Martin James

@SomewhatMemorableName Maybe. I would have gone with powers of 2: 32 or 64 for the comment limit.

Mithrandir

@SomewhatMemorableName go to "declined"

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Mithrandir thanks, I didn't notice that >_<

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir I did not know about this

also some of these are hilariously precient

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

Jeff was asked this exact question in 2008. He evaded answering it.

Martin James

10:43 AM

I especially don't understand requests to lower the limt.. Months of mostly-uproductive posts about hostile comments, and then some want the limit lowered so as to allow more comments, presumably assuming that the new comments would all be welcoming, happy and snowflake-friendly?

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames I actually asked for a higher limit at one point

Comments are something that .... people get wrong a lot

experienced users or otherwise

A new user can always comment on their own posts

Somewhat Memorable Name

Instead of reputation, "commenting everywhere" should be awarded if the user has posted at least 5 (or any arbitrary number) good posts.

Journeyman Geek

I actually like the idea of comments being re-framed as clarifications

Martin James

@SomewhatMemorableName Now, that's more like it, but Imma guessing that's more work than changing some config number.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Yeah, it has been discussed before on MSO: Why are privileges only rep-dependent?

Mithrandir

10:49 AM

Enough people misuse comments already that allowing more people to use them seems like a bad idea, as @JourneymanGeek implied.

Journeyman Geek

@Mithrandir heh, even experienced users ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

Yeah, I have to remember which sites are fun or strict with comments, so that I don't accidentally mod-flag a post requesting comment clean-up which will end up declined.

Martin James

@SomewhatMemorableName lol: 'It's not easy to attain 50 reputation points when you don't suffer from verbal diarrhoea or megalomania.' - maybe the Tavern regulars would care to identify which category they belong to? :) Do I need to get a white, fluffy cat, or maybe some digestive medicine?

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames what do you mean suffer. I rather enjoy megalomania

Martin James

@JourneymanGeek lol

Optimus Prime

11:45 AM

JNat u there?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@OptimusPrime You forgot the @

Optimus Prime

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog nope. Intentional. If he's on anything else, don't want to disturb him

Somewhat Memorable Name

12:41 PM

delv-pls? meta.stackexchange.com/q/312827

Martin James

@OptimusPrime Pingophobia..

Shoggy has it pretty bad..:(

Optimus Prime

2:30 PM

@MartinJames not that? last year, I was the one who pinged the devs more than anyone else.

Things changed

Peter David Carter

4:13 PM

So like, with the new Code of Conduct coming in, should I be putting trigger warnings on jokes? I propose [warning: potential joke; not meant sarcastically] before anything that could possibly be considered either

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You better don't

rene

4:54 PM

@PeterDavidCarter that is probably as worse as I don't want to offend you ... followed by the most horrific offensive stuff you can imagine. I warned you it was offensive!

Peter David Carter

5:16 PM

@rene well, I just got banned from two separate chats and the message got deleted for saying exactly the same thing, so I guess the totalitarianism is real and this wasn't a joke about not being allowed to joke...

rene

Yes, the standards go up quickly. I hope this ripple effect will reach /questions/ask/new as well.

Peter David Carter

@rene is it that only certain people are allowed to joke, or is everyone banned from joking?

rene

Only those proven funny ...

Peter David Carter

by a jury of people with enough rep to vote

rene

No, it is JokeBOT, it uses AI to determine if a comment is a joke and if yes, ranks it. Anything less then LMAOROFL will get you banned ...

Maybe we do need a meta post with still acceptable jokes.

Peter David Carter

5:24 PM

@rene that's good, makes me feel safe

rene

Great. Glad I could help.

Peter David Carter

lol :/

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@rene Well, I've been laying a seed for it maybe yesterday.

rene

@πάνταῥεῖ yes, tempting to post answers with jokes on different subjects and then let voting decide ...

Peter David Carter

5:46 PM

@rene it's not up to you to decide what I joke is rene, unless you're a moderator and then of course it is rolls on belly

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312977/…

Peter David Carter

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog liked and starred for friendship

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 Also, another critical bug: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312993/…

Peter David Carter

I didn't read it but I like and starred so you will like and star my posts in future

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog is there anyone you'd like me to downvote?

Martin James

@rene Please start with PHP - it's not like that is taxing..

Peter David Carter

5:59 PM

@MartinJames php is my absolute fav, what posts would you like me to upvote?

πάντα ῥεῖ

@PeterDavidCarter Since when do we downvote users but content?

Peter David Carter

@πάνταῥεῖ what even is content though?

πάντα ῥεῖ

Those confusing glyphs (very often in black on white) you see mostly in the body parts of posts :3

Peter David Carter

@πάνταῥεῖ is that what jokes means?

πάντα ῥεῖ

I dunno?

Peter David Carter

6:08 PM

kinda makes sense to me, like, joke is a symbol that refers to multiple endpoints, right?

am I being stupid again?

so banning jokes is like 'this is teh final endpoint'

Somewhat Memorable Name

FWIW, if jokes are gonna be banned on chat, then those users whose messages got starred right now will be gone...

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName don't worry, the rules will only apply when the mods say they do

Somewhat Memorable Name

(yes, including Shog9)

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName I know not of whom you speak

πάντα ῥεῖ

Shog9 is a SE employee and all place moderator.

Somewhat Memorable Name

6:20 PM

Anyway, still relevant: Why do we hate fun at Stack Exchange?

Oh, and I'm feeling hot again.

Just checked and the bed is full of poodle...

😵💦

Peter David Carter

@πάνταῥεῖ if he is a moderator he is always right

πάντα ῥεῖ

I doubt so

Peter David Carter

@πάνταῥεῖ you are right moderators are wonderful and learn from feedback

who else here thinks mods do an amazing job?

Somewhat Memorable Name

6:39 PM

Me. On some sites, that is.

πάντα ῥεῖ

It's going to get slippery here :3

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName that's great Somewhat, you are an example to the regime

Somewhat Memorable Name

hard to know if it's sarcasm or not, but i don't care

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName it's quite easy: if I were joking or being sarcastic the all-knowing mods would have banned me, so I must be serious

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@PeterDavidCarter Why is that?

Peter David Carter

6:41 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Code of Conduct

Somewhat Memorable Name

so, do i have to wait until you get banned here? ;)

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName someone like you will never get banned, because you always support the regime

Somewhat Memorable Name

dunno... i try hard not to be banned. else, it's super easy for me to get banned

Peter David Carter

@SomewhatMemorableName you feel you have been been banned unfairly before? (you can talk openly here)

Somewhat Memorable Name

no, i haven't been banned at all. i just said it's super easy if i want to get banned deliberately

like, pinging Shog9 without reasons

Peter David Carter

6:47 PM

@SomewhatMemorableName that seems very silly, banned is a side-effect of a desired action, not a desired action

Somewhat Memorable Name

Apparently you have interacted with Shog directly on MSE...

oh well, time to sleep

Peter David Carter

I do not endorse 'Shog' and he is not allowed to use my name

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Huh??

Mithrandir

7:05 PM

...what's going on here?

πάντα ῥεῖ

@Mithrandir Nothing good as it sounds :P

Peter David Carter

the downvotes in other areas after to make a legitimate downvote make me want to burn the whole site

rene

@PeterDavidCarter can you tone it down a bit please?

Peter David Carter

apologies for truth

I now have one rep

Mithrandir

@rene CHQ

sd 2poof

rene

7:18 PM

@PeterDavidCarter I've asked you to tone it down earlier. Please be responsive to such requests.

Peter David Carter

@rene you're the boss, lol

@rene could you be specific about the things that offend you?

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If a room mod attends to you, that's usually not without reasons.

Mithrandir

@PeterDavidCarter You are being disruptive, and appear to be doing it fully intentionally, given the "answers" you have posted on the main site. Please stop; joking is one thing, but being intentionally rude and disruptive is another. You have crossed the line.

Peter David Carter

@Mithrandir disruptive of what?

rene

@PeterDavidCarter that you keep going on while I already warned you once.

Somewhat Memorable Name

7:23 PM

@PeterDavidCarter It seems you're full of emotions right now. Take a walk and calm down, just avoid SE for now.

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At least repeatedly self-promoting now

Somewhat Memorable Name

And just for the record, all users' recent activities are publicly available on their network profile, so it's better to stop doing questionable things.

Shadow Wizard

7:39 PM

sigh... wish the flag troll will get a chat ban soon.

@JourneymanGeek mods can see who flagged, right? Even after the flags are dismissed?

Mithrandir

prying into secrets now, are we? ;)

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName dunno but flagging a "lol" message is far worse and not funny a tiny bit.

As mod I'd give a long ban for abusing chat flags.

Mithrandir

10

A: Who is able to see who raised a chat flag?

This depends on a couple things. If a moderator on the site that a room is hosted on is in the room at the time that the message was flagged, they can see who flagged the message. If they weren't there, they can't see it anymore. They can't see it after the fact, and mods who aren't mods on the ...

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName full of... this?!

o_O

Catija

Curly haired dogs are cute.

Shadow Wizard

7:43 PM

@SomewhatMemorableName oh wait, so that emoticon means... sweat? :D

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard Poodles are fine too...

... huh, apparently I used a wrong word!

that means I have to sleep (3am)

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName so you meant... puddle? ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

fail fun fell flat

Shadow Wizard

OK, now that's weird. I can swear Peter had over 100 rep couple of hours ago. Now only 1. How can that be? Invisible suspension? (No notice on his profile.)

πάντα ῥεῖ

I was wondering about that also

Mithrandir

7:49 PM

(insert message about not talking about users when they can't defend themselves if not actively moderation related)

Shadow Wizard

@Mithrandir but if not suspended he can...

Mithrandir

You need 20 rep to chat.

Shadow Wizard

oh

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