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12:02 AM

@hichris123 so, funny thing... We'd kinda decided months ago that this would be a good idea, and then... Got overwhelmed by stuff & forgot until it came up again in the THC.

Quill

12:23 AM

Morning

so I did a thing

I just made the repository The-Quill/StackNews on GitHub! http://ift.tt/2aI3JgA

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user315433

Nice. These are the newest questions, right? Not active ones.

Quill

newest questions, yeah

when I tried sorting with activity it just kept bumping the big stuff

user315433

I can get the same list with Stackexchange.com/filters but yours is mobile friendly.

Jon Ericson

@Quill I keep scrolling and just miss reading the footer. ;-)

user315433

There's a FR somewhere in my previous message, but nobody's working on se dot com, it seems.

Quill

12:33 AM

@JonEricson it's a pretty standard "I don't own this stuff" message along with my link

user315433

I think Jon meant that a footer and infinite scroll don't play together well.

Jon Ericson

@Quill I was mostly kidding. I don't seem to enjoy infinite scroll as much as other people do.

Quill

Meh, it made the interface easier, I suppose

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs oh yeah..... I had to put the "I don't own it" claim somewhere

user315433

On about page accessible via hamburger in upper right'

Quill

meh, it's just an easy SPA, no need for hamburgers

I'm reading the 404 logs and there's always weird traffic:

[17:03:70] FourOhFour - Attempt at path: /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind:)
[18:18:84] FourOhFour - Attempt at path: /blog/
[18:53:65] FourOhFour - Attempt at path: /wp-content/themes/tdpersona/css/font-awesome.min.css

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Jon Ericson

12:55 AM

Not sure how a unicorn operates a keyboard, however.

Quill

1:09 AM

emacs probably has a unicorn mode

bjb568

1:19 AM

Of course.

Portal

1:30 AM

Docs drama still on-going?

It's been a while since I regularly visit MSO...

JamesENL

@Portal Do you even need to ask?

Portal

Kind of. I'm not following the progress of Docs since public beta.

JamesENL

Yes

Yes it's still going

It'd be easier for us to just tell you when it isn't going on

Portal

Ok. I'll be waiting for that time :)

Quill

Hmm, being a Mentor sounds fun

Shog9

1:41 AM

gotta beat being a Mentat.

user315433

Another thing that filters can do is track only selected meta sites, though a lot of clicking is required. There's a ready to use filter for All Meats, but selecting only preferred 148 meats required clicking each...

Quill

I think my local butcher does meat filtering

user315433

Sounds plausible. Butchering is what meta sites are about.

Shog9

Butchering is what chat is for. Meta deals primarily with the more refined process of meat-cutting.

Quill

Fat trimming, perhaps

tchrist

1:49 AM

user315433

Kisses are uncomfortably placed..

Quill

2:09 AM

> superglue

That's a bit out of place

user202362

2:26 AM

legs are surprises ... interesting ...

user202362

I like how that unicorn got rainbows, stars and sunshine in the same body, I conclude that it has been drawn by a person with very little logical sense or maybe slightly deluded

tchrist

2:43 AM

@Quill Pretty sure it's placed too high.

user315433

2:57 AM

Uh... Whose idea do you think Docs was, @JonH. It ain't like CMs or accountants or salespeople or execs are sitting around thinking to themselves, "y'know what would really make my life better? Decent programming docs." This was Kevin's idea, and he's dedicated a pretty big chunk of his last year to making it happen. You don't have to believe that, and y'all can continue ignoring the past 11 months of discussion regarding it in favor of your conspiracy theories if you want... But I don't have to pretend to take them seriously. — Shog9 ♦ 6 hours ago

user315433

Now I wonder who came up with the idea of Teams.

user315433

And Developer Story.

user202362

stop being sarcastic

user315433

Out of the three, Documentation was the sane one.

user202362

I agree

user202362

3:00 AM

looking back ...

user202362

but looking back I could improve so much more too

Shog9

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Teams was Hynes, I believe. Don't recall who proposed dev story.

Folks have been talking about integrating profiles since before I joined the company though.

Probably should've happened years ago, would've been less double-work.

user202362

I think SO/SE chats are social network, even though the main sites themselves are not

Shog9

Eh...

Social, yea

Not very networky

user202362

social hubs?

Shog9

3:13 AM

Oh, sure.

If "chat rooms" ain't fancy enough for ya

hichris123

@Shog9 Well, it's good that it got done sometime...

Speaking of, how's the roomba proposal and new nav coming along?

Shog9

New nav?

hichris123

Yeah, that thingy on SO that y'all proposed like a year ago that I'm beta testing...

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Q: Let’s improve our site navigation

A Release Candidate has been announced A.k.a. the 2015 Questions to Answer Refactoring Konversion (QuARK) A.k.a. the great cheese move of 2015. TL:DR; we are looking to change the navigation of the question lists on the site. We are not looking to remove any functionality or break any ex...

Shog9

Ah. On hold :-/

hichris123

:( I figured after seeing no updates for 8 months...

user202362

3:19 AM

I mean I don't get the idea of social network, is it a theme that makes it easy for spammers?

hichris123

Maybe I should turn off the beta then. It's decent but there's still work to do.

user202362

so instead of spamming immediate surrounding, it can spam outside it's immediate reach?

user202362

through the network?

Magisch

hey people

Quill

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs that's really awesome

Professor just did some group activity that turned into a childish game of Mexican wave or whatever.... I wish they'd respect my decisions to act as a loner instead of forcing group participation

Shog9

3:24 AM

@Telkitty ever been in a group of people who all apparently hate each other and yet still meet up at least weekly to share news and brag?

user315433

@Quill I try to. The most socializing thing I ever ask students to do is to introduce themselves (name, major, factoid) to the class. Is that acceptable?

user202362

@Shog9 difference to chats here?

user315433

There are optionally-group projects, in the sense one can do them individually.

user202362

@Shog9 sounds like a loserish amateur soccer team I know of, loserish because it lost 90% of the games

user202362

team mates hated each other apparently, still got around to play the season every weekend

user315433

3:28 AM

@hichris123 Either that, or delete your account. There is still work to do on pretty much everything at SO.

Quill

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs I get the feeling I'm in a small minority of people who are a little reluctant to have identity

user202362

people don't necessarily hang around with the people they love all the times, sometimes they have to hang around with people they hate because of common goals

hichris123

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs The latter is a little extreme? ;) No, I mean more of annoyances vs. the old nav, things that work terribly (going back in your browser takes you to page 1 no matter what page you were on), stuff like that.

Where if it might be fixed in a month, it would be okay -- but if there's no timeframe for a fix, might as well use the tried-and-true version.

user202362

I am amazed that spammers still have not found the existing of the chats ... or maybe people on chats are like mobs, any random spammer into the room would be hacked to half death

Quill

@Telkitty sounds like most workplaces

user202362

3:31 AM

precisely

Quill

@Telkitty except there's a rep req to chat... And significantly less eyes

hichris123

@Telkitty You need rep for chat. That's too much effort for spammers (well, at least most of them).

user315433

As for new roomba rules, I somehow forgot why I thought they were important. Maybe it was because Triage seemed important.

Quill

Plus Chat is painful to code for

user202362

I temporarily forgot about rep requirement ~_~

Quill

3:33 AM

Oded mentioned interviews the other day, I wonder whether we can steal a new dev for the nav

user315433

I suppose sklivvz will return to it after finishing whatever he's coding now... Didn't seem to be docs, probably one of two other expansions.

hichris123

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs Takes care of boring questions so meta whining decreases.

user315433

Boring questions get most of their views long before they are roomba eligible. After that, nobody looks at it anymore. If nobody reads a post, does it really exist?

Quill

That depends on how many rows one question takes up in a DB

Magisch

4:12 AM

Jesus **** christ

I have food poisoning

JamesENL

Maybe a spammer can help?

What did you eat

Shog9

211 up, 48661 down, all now in limbo.

user202362

Conceptually heaven is above, hell beneath, so where exactly is limbo, is this where the world has some 5th dimension and souls got stuck?

hichris123

Is this supposed to be some deep question?

Quill

Wouldn't that make earth limbo

user202362

4:25 AM

in an alternative universe, yes

Quill

I have a beautifully covered copy of dante's inferno on my shelf at home, I'm yet to read it

user315433

@Shog9 most are on deleted posts, so why not nuke all

user315433

Ugh, CHQ doesn't seem to have flaggers right now.

hichris123

Apparently people went to sleep. :(

user315433

And Aussies went to work or are on vacation

Shog9

4:33 AM

@ᴡᴏʀᴅs not enough of them.

user315433

In any case, the loss of downvotes wouldn't cause any distress to users, whatever the number

Quill

Heh. Straight to Mos: twitter.com/normalhumanchat/status/758153856933134337

user315433

Community site profiles claim that it has no other accounts on the network. Meanwhile, they all link to the same network profile. And that profile shows only Area 51 account.

Quill

5:04 AM

hichris123

Sometimes, you feel sad because you can't build any spamcastles.

Sometimes, you can build slightly smaller spamcastles though.

hichris123

5:25 AM

Did @Quill get a new profile picture?

Quill

in The Nineteenth Byte on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, yesterday, by Quill

i try to get around to it whenever i don't loathe my identity

hichris123

FYI @Quill there's a better trashcan you should be using: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/658/trashcan

Quill

I know about the trashcan, got some context there?

hichris123

You used Trash vs. Trashcan: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/31267447#31267447

Quill

Somebody said it in TL already, but it invites people to the trash and almost tells them that their content is trashy. Trashcan is more of a "silent cleanup" kinda thing

Magisch

5:42 AM

Bah

an hour of throwing up my guts later

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