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user315433

9:01 PM

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A: Do you heat the pan first, then add oil? Or put the oil in and heat up with the pan?

As ze professional chef at ze Laq su Mar, France for ze past troi yeers. I can say wiz ze utmost certaintee zat ze oil should be heeted wiz von pan zen put in ze ozer pan for ze kookeng. only uze ze bare palm of ze haand to test ze temperature. For questions email moi at zis addresse: laqsumarsuf...

user315433

How to flag? I went with VLQ.

user202362

depends on whether your pan is damp of course @_@

Quill

@404 Rude or Abusive

user315433

For a question that presents 2 alternatives, 14 answers seems too many.

user202362

easy questions seem to gather more answers as always

Quill

9:04 PM

reminds me of another site we know

*cough* lifehacks

user315433

Robert Cartaino comments on Code Review in passing:

user315433

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A: Why is essay review closed but neither code or math reviews

Code review was from another era where even Jeff Atwood said it didn't really fit our model, but the sheer size of our audience and experience that went into it gave them the collateral to give it a shot. Even today, it still does not fit our model and it always seems to <air-quotes> "break" how ...

user315433

How do you use air-quotes when typing?

Quill

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Domestic Chores

Proposed Q&A site for learning how to do chores such as laundry, washing up, cleaning etc. correctly and efficiently.

Currently in definition.

lol

user315433

> Folks who currently make up the Stack Exchange network seem to have run out of subjects to talk about

Sterling Archer

9:20 PM

What has the world come to when an entire Q&A forum is needed for basic chores ._.

Like, I get it, cleaning a cast iron skillet isn't common knowledge, but washing clothes is pretty straight forward.

Quill

13 mins ago, by 404

> Folks who currently make up the Stack Exchange network seem to have run out of subjects to talk about

the only decent proposals that come out of Area 51 anymore are the "Stack Overflow in x language" ones

probably why Robert and the other CMs don't want to bother updating A51

user315433

SO in X have all been closed (or launched) except Turkish, which is left in limbo.

user315433

9:38 PM

Hi @gwr, if you're looking for "the watchdog of the teachers with some kind of strange interest", you're in the right place.

gwr

@404 In fact I am. ;-)

bwDraco

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Q: Issues with lack of transparency on the part of a certain moderator

Before you respond, I'd like to emphasize that the moderator in question has a long history of working to keep Super User tidy and I must acknowledge that. I really don't like complaining about any particular person, especially a moderator, but I'm getting really tired of it. random tends to be ...

I've just about had enough.

user315433

It looks okay. You can take a walk now that it's posted.

user315433

Folks will need some time to digest it.

gwr

@404 ???

Quill

9:45 PM

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A: Why is essay review closed but neither code or math reviews

I think Robert wrote a very good answer already, but since you mentioned Code Review I wanted to give you the perspective of a regular from that site as well. Code Review was almost an inevitable next-step after Stack Overflow. Stack Overflow helps you get code working, Code Review helps you red...

@gwr He's talking about the meta post @bwDraco just posted

gwr

@404 There actually have been decent proposals recently on A51...

user315433

Speaking from the experience of posting a few disagreeable things on meta.Math. Rapid exchange in comments doesn't lead anywhere good. My approach is to post and ignore pings from that direction for a while. Then read a few hours later.

gwr

@404 There is certainly wisdom in what you say. While quick voting also may not be a solution?

@404 Actually I was looking for @ShadowWizard.

user315433

It's near midnight in Israel. Try in 9 hours or so.

user315433

Could you elaborate on specifically why Code Review isn't right for the Stack Exchange model (e.g. lack of revenue-generating opportunities, inappropriate awarding of fake Internet points, poor ratio of knowledge relative to disk space, dilution of the Stack Exchange brand, …)? — 200_success 1 min ago

user315433

9:51 PM

Uh oh, the remark was noticed by 200_success

Quill

I posted it in our chat

ofcourseitwas

gwr

@404 Thanks, that is +1 hour my time. So sleep over it.

user315433

If it's not really spam, don't flag it as such! by RolandiXor on meta.elementaryos.stackexchange.com I think this is not about us, we didn't have a report from eOS in two months

user315433

Aviation.SE also has an election now, there are three in total.

user315433

I gave on edit-farming 150 rep on that site, there is not much to edit. Apparently, piloting aircraft correlates positively with being careful in writing.

Quill

9:59 PM

I don't think I could go for a Moderator position (even on an under staffed site) unless I was an actual contributor

Jeffrey Bosboom

@404 There's one answerer in particular whose posts could do with six commas added; they always seem breathless when I read them. But yes, posts are at a generally high standard.

user315433

@Quill 150 rep is to vote in election. I'm not going to run anywhere. (300 is required to run).

Quill

ohlol

Jeffrey Bosboom

Do you try to vote in every mod election?

user315433

Yes, everywhere where I can farm 150 points in reasonable time.

user315433

10:02 PM

Well, 101 comes from the bonus, so it's really just 25 suggested edits.

user315433

Voted on 14 sites so far: Mathematics, Stack Overflow, Stack Overflow in Russian, Software Recommendations, Graphic Design, Magento, Security, Signal Processing, Chemistry, DBA, Cryptography, Blender, Computer Science, Statistics

Quill

I thought you voted in the Code Review election as well?

user315433

No, I haven't.

user315433

Your site doesn't have much for me to edit, apparently.

Quill

ah, okay

bwDraco

10:15 PM

I think we need a broader discussion on this. I don't feel comfortable about random's moderation decisions.

user315433

Meta is supposed to achieve that.

user315433

Fog Creek has been building an easy-to-use web development tool codenamed HyperWeb. Sign up for the beta http://goo.gl/forms/jE9JdS0KdR

Tweeted by spolsky on March 14, 2016 at 7:57 PM

hichris123

> Welcome to your own custom piece of the Internet. HyperWeb gets you straight to developing real web apps in a fast, fun, and collaborative way. It's a development platform that enables you to focus on the true creative work in your project, writing code, by removing the rest of the barriers to building software on the web.

So another thingy to "make" you "able" to create a "webapp"?

user315433

Well, I signed up. Not a professional coder, but I do like to tinker with JS and make webappy thingies.

user315433

"Welcome to your own custom piece of the Internet" sounds like zombo.com

Shadow Wizard

10:22 PM

@gwr I am here, but I also posted in "your" room, did you see it?

@404 true, but I still have one hour before light off... ;)

(and yes, it gives me ~5 hours sleep)

user315433

Well, what can we do when so many people are being wrong on the Internet every day..

hichris123

@404 You can go to bed. Best solution ever.

Quill

Speaking of writing and review, I suggest "fewer bugs means fewer Stack Overflow questions". — Normal Human 38 mins ago

Irony at its finest

user315433

What, I'm still Normal Human on Area 51? That site is a mess.

user315433

An idea: search for questions where the top answer contains the word "semicolon" in the first sentence, close as OT/typo.

Quill

10:31 PM

OT?

user315433

Off-Topic: This question was caused by a problem that can no longer be reproduced or a simple typographical error.

Quill

ohrite

I should probably sleep more

hichris123

@404 I've started going through the questions with 4 votes for typographical error and making sure the actual typo ones get closed.

user315433

Having tag filter in CV review is great. Being unable to bookmark it, not so much.

hichris123

There's a reason why we have SEDE... :P

user315433

10:43 PM

But that data is stale...

hichris123

@404 Not if you get to it early. i.e. now. :)

bwDraco

11:24 PM

Here's one of the reasons I brought up this complaint:

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Q: Is it okay to begin tag wiki excerpts with "for questions about..." or "a/an", or are such words noise?

I've suggested many tag wiki and excerpt edits lately. While most of them were approved, a particular moderator rejected or edited a few of them, stripping out initial words like "for questions about" or "a/an" on the grounds that they are "fluff" and "get in the way". These edits felt jarring an...

discussion tag-wiki

@random: They're jarring because they're minor edits that only affect the style of the excerpt, so they seem very nitpicky. — bwDraco Dec 16 '14 at 21:31

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bwDraco

In any case, I've got work to do, so I'll be back in a bit.

sd trueu-

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Quill

11:49 PM

bwDraco

New Question / Answer Rate Limits

Jeff Atwood on February 21, 2009

Stack Overflow is somewhat unique in that we encourage participation of essentially anonymous, random programmers. Our idea is to radically reduce the bar for participation, and take one giant leap of faith:

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