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Louis

1:22 AM

cv-pls-unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/23377365/…

Feels like this question was translated with Google Translate.

Braiam

MSO is kind of more active

Louis

Er... what?

Braiam

there's active community participation

michaelb958

@Braiam Well, mission accomplished, I guess.

Braiam

2:04 AM

can we close this? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/223593/…

ɥʇǝS

4:20 AM

Kill with fire: meta.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/27199

Laszlo Papp

4:57 AM

I had 745 answers yesterday, but now I only have 744. Is it possible to check out somehow which answer of mine is gone? I have not lost any reputation, so that cannot help either.

Braiam

@LaszloPapp http://meta.stackexchange.com/users/recently-deleted-answers/uid

Laszlo Papp

page not found

oh, and btw, on SO.

rene

6:55 AM

@Braiam Why?

Laszlo Papp

hi rene

rene

hi Laszlo

Shadow Wizard

@LaszloPapp for you it's meta.stackexchange.com/users/recently-deleted-answers/232889

i just noticed that answers migrated to MSO are also there. Neat!

Jan Dvorak

SPAM ux.stackexchange.com/questions/56531/nikes-sales-quadrupled

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak but I want those shoes!

rene

6:59 AM

How did they get the image in there?

Laszlo Papp

@ShadowWizard: is it the same pattern on SO?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM wordpress.stackexchange.com/questions/142872

(or maybe offensive

Laszlo Papp

ah, yes, stackoverflow.com/users/recently-deleted-answers/2682142

Jan Dvorak

CV-PLS stackoverflow.com/questions/23379925/…

CV-PLS superuser.com/questions/46496/good-free-registry-editor-tool

Shadow Wizard

> As an important equipment , jaw crusher is widely used both at home and abroad. When it comes to cars, it has a good use of crushing granite.Commonly, a staple in the mining equipment is crusher and cone crushers manufacturer is the most popular

so, spam.

Laszlo Papp

7:02 AM

thanks, Shadow.

Shadow Wizard

@LaszloPapp so you found your missing answer? :)

Jan Dvorak

I saw the URL, and I was wondering if a jaw crusher was something from Saw

apparently it's a piece of mining equipment.

Laszlo Papp

yes, but do you know how to get to that link from the profile or elsewhere? It would be better than bookmark it.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak yup. Wrong place for posting this spam for SO many reasons.

Jan Dvorak

Crusher

A crusher is a machine designed to reduce large rocks into smaller rocks, gravel, or rock dust. Crushers may be used to reduce the size, or change the form, of waste materials so they can be more easily disposed of or recycled, or to reduce the size of a solid mix of raw materials (as in rock ore), so that pieces of different composition can be differentiated. Crushing is the process of transferring a force amplified by mechanical advantage through a material made of molecules that bond together more strongly, and resist deformation more, than those in the material being crushed do. Crus...

Laszlo Papp

7:04 AM

@Jan: done for the first link. I do not have enough rep on superuser.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM ux.stackexchange.com/questions/56533/…

Shadow Wizard

@LaszloPapp the link to this page is in your profile page, in the bottom of the Answers tab

Laszlo Papp

ah, ok, thank you, even better.

Shadow Wizard

:)

rene

SPAM ux.stackexchange.com/a/56532/46198 answer on that profile

Jan Dvorak

7:07 AM

how should I catch this? A link detector with a domain whitelist?

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak crawl spammer profile page, extract relevant HTML, parse, crawl the links

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard I should be able to see answers as they go by (with a delay). I'm worried about determining if an answer is spam.

rene

@JanDvorak that would give a lot of false positives unless you make as huge whitelist.

Jan Dvorak

@rene It's giving a lot of false positives for questions already. Do you have a better idea?

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak I fear that only manually for now

Jan Dvorak

7:11 AM

That's not what I want to do, but thanks.

rene

close meta.stackexchange.com/questions/230743/…

@JanDvorak Let me think on that...

Shadow Wizard

@rene yeah, the amount dropped after the split but guess there'll always be users so oblivious/ignorant to keep posting in the wrong place.

Jan Dvorak

maybe I should make a domain graylist?

rene

@ShadowWizard And I'm oblivious/ignorant in thinking my comments help :-)

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/230744/…

Jan Dvorak

@rene gone

SPAM ux.stackexchange.com/questions/56535/super-nice-nike-shoes

Jan Dvorak

7:50 AM

SPAM tex.stackexchange.com/questions/174408/low-top-concord-11s

rene

...and I have a new account on tex....

Jan Dvorak

thanks

Shadow Wizard

@rene congrats! Where's your Autobiographer badge though?

And of course Citizen Patrol?

rene

8:22 AM

@ShadowWizard Caching...

:)

Shadow Wizard

lol wrong site. Meant this of course. Cheers!

rene

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 47 secs ago, by rene

Hmmm, we must be able to drop the CVQ below 10K today...

Jan Dvorak

maybe it already is? I blame rounding

rene

No, I checked the anonymous count

I only make mistakes once...

Jan Dvorak

8:37 AM

Nice, Mozilla has made a ~~clone of Chrome~~ new and redesigned version of Firefox

rene

Ah, we are back to rounded corners again...so 2000...

eye-candy...I stick with lynx...

Jan Dvorak

come to think of it... people claim that Armageddon should have happened in Y2K because it's a round number... but if God is a programmer, then 2048 is a better target.

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/25003/…

nice, spam on bitcoin that isn't bitcoin spam.

R.J

vtd-asking-for-teh-codez-question stackoverflow.com/q/23383292/2024761

rene

I don't have that privileges yet...

Jan Dvorak

Please don't do others' homeworks. That's not what Stack Overflow is for. — Jan Dvorak 9 secs ago

Bart

8:47 AM

@JanDvorak should I perhaps inform the OP about markdown?

Jan Dvorak

status-too-minor

rene

9:06 AM

Is this offensive? stackoverflow.com/questions/23353443/…

Bart

Meh, NC at most

rene

OK

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak isn't Bitcoin itself one big spam/scam? :D

Bart

No @ShadowWizard, it's a system that got some people very rich very quickly but subsequently is leaving several .... ah I see where this is going ... never mind.

Braiam

9:36 AM

@rene there's no 10k queue anymore ;)

rene

@Braiam but...but...how would I raise users disputed flag rate in that case?

Braiam

@rene err... they don't

rene

So my own disputed rate will not improve?

Jan Dvorak

9:52 AM

SPAM security.stackexchange.com/questions/56956/…

rene

Not connected to the internet how much fun would that be?

Bart

Perhaps we should recommend this to the Indian Hacker Team

rene

So he can be alone on his own network?

Bart

Yep. He can be his own mod, hack as much as he wishes, it's perfect

rene

10:51 AM

@SJMP Let us disagree on that. A lot of your edits got approved by robo-reviewers not because it helps someone... — rene 11 secs ago

Totally fresh view on quality of edits...

Alex

@rene what is a robo-reviewer?

rene

People that click accept without looking when reviewimng suggested-edits

Alex

@rene why does this happen?

rene

@Alex see this among many more...

Alex

@rene the review system is defective?

Stijn

10:54 AM

@Alex that's putting it lightly

rene

No, it is a PICNIC problem

Alex

@rene I dont think i'm familiar with that acronym, what is it?

rene

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/PICNIC

Alex

@rene haha... would it help to have some sort of locking to prevent people from approving things before someone else has had a chance to do it properly, so that only the required number of people can review something at a time

part of the issue seems to be that it takes a certain number of people to approve something, but any number of people can hit approve at the same time

rene

There are dozen of feature requests...

I don't believe behavior is easily changed with tooling...

Alex

11:00 AM

@rene I think that the tools encourage a certain kind of behaviour

rene

Can someone reject the pending edit and close this stackoverflow.com/questions/23386231/…

too late for the edit leaves the cv-pls

Jan Dvorak

11:18 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/111686/…

R.J

@rene - Voted to delete..

rene

Tnx

@R.J the OP edited the question....I assume it stays closed...

and left a comment to be sure nobody accidentally thinks reopen is a good idea...

Shadow Wizard

11:42 AM

@rene well it became a database normalization question now which might be on topic if he'll show some effort

I don't think we should delete just yet, OP might still do something and edit.

rene

Ok, I'll leave it then...

R.J

@Shadow - I agree with you. But the problem is I can't retract my delete vote unlike a close vote :(

rene

I found a dup as well I guess...

Shadow Wizard

@R.J yeah, known issue. Just keep an eye then and worst case, undelete vote is also good. :)

@rene that's good, post it as comment and it might be good enough for OP.

Louis

12:13 PM

cv-pls-typo stackoverflow.com/questions/22038977/…

The evidence that it is a typo is present in this comment: stackoverflow.com/questions/22038977/…

ThiefMaster

Wirelessly charging my phone on the desk == awesome!

Louis

12:39 PM

It would be a shame if these two late answers to old questions did not get the attention they deserve.

-1

A: Could not find main class in JAR file (exported thru Eclipse)

Run it like this on the command line: java -jar /path/to/your/jar/jarFile.jar

-1

A: Jar file created with Eclipse: Could not find the main class: UI.MainWindow. Program will exit

Run it like this on the command line: java -jar /path/to/your/jar/jarFile.jar

Posting very generic answers to specific questions is a sure way to win!

Third one I missed earlier:

-2

A: "Could not find the main class" error when running jar exported by Eclipse

Run it like this on the command line: java -jar /path/to/your/jar/jarFile.jar

Shadow Wizard

@Louis looks like that user is going to get answer ban very soon, if he didn't already.

Louis

@ShadowWizard Great! Is there a way for non-mods to see whether someone is banned? (I can see suspensions notices but I don't recall seeing a ban notice.)

ProgramFOX

@Louis No, there isn't I'm afraid.

rene

Is this NAA flag-able: stackoverflow.com/a/2092274/578411

I visited that answer due to this meta SO post

How on earth is this an answer @Bart

Stijn

12:55 PM

@NickCraver a big thank you for StackExchange.Exceptional, our project went live a week ago and it's proven to be an incredibly useful tool for tracking errors :)

rene

What a mess. That question could be closed as No longer reproduceable?

Louis

1:06 PM

@rene I don't think they are NAA.

Knowing there's a bug that prevents the OP to do what they want to do is useful.

rene

If the link doesn't work (or is removed) it becomes not an answer. I agree it is useful but the rules for whether or not to flag becomes tricky. If it is a bug report a link without further info is OK. Really?

Shadow Wizard

@rene when the answer is "this is a known issue" or "this will be fixed in next release" then this is an acceptable answer, link is just a bonus. In my opinion, of course. :)

Andy

@ShadowWizard Once it is fixed though, doesn't it become obsolete?

Shadow Wizard

@Andy big part the questions on Stack Overflow will become, or are already obsolete as programming advances, there's no point starting to close them all. (just my own rough guess, but it's LOT of questions, most likely millions)

rene

@ShadowWizard Ok, I understand your reasoning and I'm OK-ish with that. Sadly I now wrongly accused Bart of providing low quality answers... I hope he left his smiting stick at home....

Shadow Wizard

1:19 PM

@rene Bart needs no stick. He got stars. :D

Nick Craver

1:34 PM

@Stijn glad you find it useful! I'll be pushing out a few new bits in the next week or so for our node.js guys and WebAPI compatibility, nothing huge though unless you're behind multiple proxies :)

Louis

1:57 PM

cv-pls-duplicate stackoverflow.com/questions/23389829/…

cv-pls-lacks-sufficient-information stackoverflow.com/questions/23386614/…

rene

@Louis OP Self answered that he found it...

Louis

@rene Yes, but what is your point?

rene

Could also close as no longer repro?

It will get closed anyway...

Louis

Unsure about that. I feel there may have been a real issue there but that the issue was resolved without making it clear to the SO community what the issue was.

At any rate the important thing is that it gets closed.

rene

yep

Louis

2:10 PM

cv-pls-too-broad stackoverflow.com/questions/23390031/…

OP seems to be having problems with all the technologies used.

Jan Dvorak

Who wants to see a trainwreck? (10K+) stackoverflow.com/questions/23390498/why-do-people-hate-me

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak oh, the ending makes it look like this might be the infamous Indian teenager.

rene

@JanDvorak ....but why? That other question from that users seems OK/normal. What happened...

Jan Dvorak

@rene not sure; could it be a compromised account?

Shadow Wizard

@rene always possible the account was hacked

Even n00b hackers can sometimes succeed

Jan Dvorak

2:21 PM

flag as possible compromised account?

Shadow Wizard

If it'll happen again from same account flag

Hey there's an echo :D

I'm shadowing Jan

rene

The true wizard

Shadow Wizard

lol

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard I have to leave now, but if you do notice, please flag

rene

Watch your back, you might be shadowed

Shadow Wizard

2:22 PM

Will do!

Anyone think this will be approved?

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard it might be; the comment provides a reasonable explanation

Shadow Wizard

Maybe I should have linked to the screenshot?

rene

If it is rejected you should post on their meta that they need more robo-reviewers.

4

SO is happy to send some over...

Shadow Wizard

SO will be SO happy you mean :)

rene

Sure :)

TGMCians

2:31 PM

\o

ProgramFOX

o/

3ventic

@ShadowWizard a similar one of mine was accepted on Unix & Linux

it fixed a bit more though

Stilly.stack

my gosh, some bad questions on stackoverflow this morning

wow a 26k user posted this as an answer stackoverflow.com/questions/23391129/…

to a question with -6

ok, he updated it now, but still... answering bad questions

close vote that question please

Yes, BEAUTIFUL RENE SAVED THE DAY! Thanks!

TCPMAN.EXE

2:46 PM

It's fun reading all the rage comments.

Bart

@rene I answered it. Therefore it is an answer.

TCPMAN.EXE

I like how he also close voted the question.

rene

@Stilly.stack :)

Bart

Stop downvoting me @rene

rene

You deserve it posting that kind of crap...

Stilly.stack

2:50 PM

it's been like forever since I've been to jsfiddle.net , since I can't find any questions to answer anymore

Bart

Haha, by all means go ahead @rene.

rene

I rather use my downvotes wisely... :-)

And based on the feedback earlier I learned you don't flag Bart

Bart

Ha, I see I was a topic of discussion there. Well, not me, but still.

Jan Dvorak

@Stilly.stack aaand gone.

Louis

cv-pls-repost stackoverflow.com/questions/23391344/…

Bart

2:56 PM

@Louis Terrible close reason

TGMCians

yah

Louis

@Bart How?

Bart

A question does not get closed because the OP asked it earlier and it has now been deleted.

Louis

@Bart, this is a repost reposts are not allowed. It does not matter if the OP deleted it.

TGMCians

see this stackoverflow.com/a/23391495/1741671

oh deleted

Stilly.stack

2:58 PM

sweet, right in the middle – Bart, Stilly.stack, rene

TGMCians

3 downvotes in a 2 seconds

rene

@Louis That is only knowledge you and the OP have...

@Stilly.stack Are you sure that is a good thing?

Louis

@rene Users with >=10K can verify for themselves.

rene

Not if they don't have a link to the earlier question...

Louis

I did post a link.

Bart

3:01 PM

Still, the question had a reason to be closed earlier on @Louis. Close it as that again.

P.s. penalty points for not recognizing my sockpuppet

I mean, Gart .... who names himself Gart ...

rene

From Wie de koek krijgt, wie de gart?

Bart

rofl

I thought that was nicely in line with Bartje bid niet voor bruine bonen

rene

lol

Bart

/me wonders how many instances of Google Translate are being fired up

TGMCians

oh no question for me now to review

> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "[android]"

Stilly.stack

3:07 PM

google translate is totally pointless, since it has no option to translate stupid to educated

Bart

Don't worry @Stilly.stack. All I post is intelligent

Lix

Is the bar open?

Bart

rene is drunk, if that matters.

Lix

@rene - sharing is caring

Stilly.stack

hmm.. i have 3k rep on metaSE , but i just got +2 for suggested edit wiki

Bart

3:17 PM

Sure, that's normal

Stilly.stack

guess i need 5k to not get that.. ok

ProgramFOX

No, not 5k, but 20k.

rene

@Lix It is more fun to see what Google Translate brings you :)

Lix

@rene Gelieve mag ik een biertje

Is it just me or did the "please" get lost in translation :P

ProgramFOX

"Mag ik alstublieft een biertje?" would be better.

rene

3:23 PM

It is there but it is rather old-fashioned (or flemish)

ProgramFOX

"Gelieve mag ik een biertje" is not Flemish.

Lix

אפשר בירה בבקשה?

rene

Oh!

Lix

Wow... that translation is terrible...

still makes sense though....

Stilly.stack

It's totally unfair that @undo gets his own tag wiki meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/undo

Lix

3:27 PM

a tag wiki and a shout-out from shog!?!

special treatment :/

Bart

"Undo, son of Shog"

7

That would make for an epic character

Lix

commas matter...

Bart

haha

Stilly.stack

almost 70% of the questions with this tag are now closed, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/bacon , probably time to burninate it

Lix

mmmmm.... burninate the bacon... I don't think the classic meaning of burninate works for this example...

Stilly.stack

3:37 PM

i did have bacon today, first time in a while, maybe this all means something that i will never be able to fully grasp

Lix

did you eat >=70% of it?

Stilly.stack

no, i gave some to the dogs and tore off some fat

Lix

Then you are correct... It seems that you indeed did not fully grasp the situation...

Bart

Do you even know how to bacon?

Lix

@Bart - it's simple...

Bart

3:40 PM

Indeed!

Lix

I should really stop following @StackChefs...

Yup bacon wrapped bacon smells like heaven👍🙏 http://t.co/vZaTwIOzgq

Tweeted by StackChefs on April 30, 2014 at 1:25 PM

Stilly.stack

anna must of smelled the bacon

so did josh

Anna Lear

err

Lix

err - bacon not found

Undo

BACON

Lix

3:54 PM

YES

NOW you're talking!

Undo

@Bart I am almost 100% certain that my dad is not Shog :P

This claim is based primarily on the fact that he once called these sites 'forums'

Bart

So not 100% @Undo. Good enough for me.

Undo

Anyway, BACON

and with that I have to go. Dentist :(

Lix

@Undo - You take bacon to your dentist?

Bart

Floss with bacon

Lix

3:58 PM

@Bart - you just gave me goosebumps...

the GOOD kind :D

Louis

cv-pls-no-longer-reproducible stackoverflow.com/questions/23378024/…

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening

2

Bart

Ooooh, the beginning is already awesome @GnomeSlice

Lix

Agreed :)

GnomeSlice

@Bart @Lix A lot of the tracks can be downloaded freely on his bandcamp: wonderyears1.bandcamp.com

"Nowhere but up" in particular is a really nice album.

Check out the mix first though.

Bart

4:08 PM

My most used chat search: "Listening"

Lix

Oh... I like this v.much... Digging those electro vibes!

GnomeSlice

fuck the internet here sucks

rene

@GnomeSlice +1

GnomeSlice

Its even less reliable than my home internet

Braiam

@GnomeSlice I told you to drop dialup and use ISDN ;)

GnomeSlice

4:13 PM

I don't have dialup at home.

But what I do have isn't very reliable.

I'm at my dad's workplace right now.

I think I'm too far from the wifi hub or something

Lix

@GnomeSlice - how do you feel about mashups?

GnomeSlice

@Lix Depends on the mashup. There are a couple I really like. Notably:

►

Bart

@GnomeSlice if you don't have a tingling sensation in your brain, you're too far away

@Bart heh

4:16 PM

butbutbut vibefest mix

jk I listened to it earlier.

►

Somebody linked me that one yesterday. Really nice.

@Lix listening

My main problem with most mashups is that I don't know any of the source tracks, even if it's popular stuff.

I don't recognize anything in this one you linked.

Not bad though.

@Lix Prepare to shit yourself:

►

Lix

Ahhh!!

But ofcourse!

:P

Yea.. that one was simply crazy...

@GnomeSlice - madeon also did a fantastic mix to one of deadmau5's tracks youtube.com/watch?v=HuC2MUmQaG4

GnomeSlice

►

@Lix Raise Your Weapon is not one of his best tracks.

Decent remix though, hadn't heard this.

@Lix You must listen to this: soundcloud.com/ultrnx/ira-atari-dont-wanna-miss-you

Lix

Gotta run now folks... but I'll be back later to catch up on all this awesomness :)

catch ya laters @GnomeSlice

GnomeSlice

Peace

RUJordan

4:37 PM

If a question is offensive, is it better to flag for moderator attention or offensive/hate speech?

rene

I would flag it as offensive

In case you are wrong it gets declined but if it is correct it gets removed from the frontpage and things like that

RUJordan

Well wouldn't that be the same results as a moderator flag?

rene

Post a link if you want us to check @RUJordan

mmyers

It's quicker to flag offensive

RUJordan

The question in question was spammed cussing

stackoverflow.com/questions/23379522/…

mmyers

4:40 PM

and it doesn't require moderator intervention if enough people flag it

RUJordan

Ohhhhh

Interesting

rene

@RUJordan No, offensive/spam is automatic

RUJordan

Didn't know that

3ventic

6 offensive/spam flags and the post is automatically removed

mmyers

Moderators would just flag it as offensive anyway - we could delete it, but flagging it ensures that the content is not visible even to 10k users unless they really, really want to see it

so our only advantage is that our flags are binding

RUJordan

4:46 PM

That's good info, thanks guys!

Appreciate the quick /thorough response

Louis

dv-pls cv-pls-typo stackoverflow.com/questions/23392831/…

TGMCians

Need help here, see answers of this question craps stackoverflow.com/questions/23391219/…

oh wow

> This question is protected to prevent "thanks!", "me too!", or spam answers by new users. To answer it, you must have earned at least 10 reputation on this site.

I did which I can on all answers

all flags status - helpful

oh @AnnaLear thanks :)

rene

5:11 PM

If a comment has a dead link would you flag that?

Bart

Can anyone shed some light on what just happened here? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/253002/…

I was editing this (perhaps not great) MSO question, to find it deleted for reasons of moderation ...

Did the OPs account get nuked in the mean time?

rene

Deleted by community...