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12:02 AM

wow...this dude just posted the same answer 7 times within 15 mins....

It's not even self promotion... Looks like that article really did blow his mind...

@balpha ...Except the one I apparently had left myself a comment for when I tried swapping in \b a while ago myself. Whoops. >_>

jcolebrand

crack time (seconds):	9736531.2
crack time (display):	5 months

Good to know my go-to password is fairly tricky according to that dictionary

Tim Stone

12:36 AM

crack time (seconds):	3723176626.295
crack time (display):	centuries

\o/

jadarnel27

1:08 AM

crack time (seconds): 0
crack time (display): instant

Hmmm.

Tim Yi Jiang

Dictionary word?

jadarnel27

Haha, yes.

Note to self: "brown" is an excellent word, and an awesome color, but a terrible password.

jcolebrand

@jadarnel27 I knew it, your password is hunter7

mootinator

Note to self: don't make the admin account for every site the domain name with 0 in place of o.

@jadarnel27 What is the opposite of brown. Some other shade of brown?

jcolebrand

1:24 AM

@mootinator I think it's a bright neon yellow

jadarnel27

@jcolebrand I love that bash entry! I haven't thought about that website in forever.

@mootinator Trick question, brown doesn't have any opposite.

Brown is so amazing, that if it had an opposite, that color would destroy the electromagnetic spectrum.

jcolebrand

@jadarnel27 meh, that joke's been around a lot longer than that bash entry

mootinator

So what you're saying is that casperOne is some sort of antimatter?

jadarnel27

YES!

Exactly.

jokerdino

@TimStone @Shog9 Thanks!

balpha

8:12 AM

@TimStone Yeah same here. When the bug report came in, I recalled having considered that problem before.

Tim Stone

12:28 PM

@balpha Incidentally, I wanted to get my hands on those Markdown sources to stress-test some of those other changes I suggested recently. I suppose I should get on that.

The Unhandled Exception

2:28 PM

entropy:	181.95
crack time (seconds):	2.9595914384388607e+50
crack time (display):	centuries

\o/ \o/

@jcolebrand and @TimStone: I win

Tim Stone

Hahah

jcolebrand

5:48 PM

@TheUnhandledException I believe the correct assertion here is that we can log into our computers faster ;-)

mootinator

5:59 PM

"The quick brown fox jumps over a lazy dog."

Will be the most popular password when sites start requiring at least one of each letter.

jcolebrand

6:20 PM

@mootinator Wafting zephyrs quickly vexed Jumbo .....

Heterogram

A heterogram (from hetero-, meaning "different", + -gram, meaning "written") is a word, phrase, or sentence in which no letter of the alphabet occurs more than once. An isogram, in which all letters occur an equal number of times, is the same as a heterogram when each letter occurs once. A heterogram may be distinguished from a pangram (a holoalphabetic sentence), which uses all of the letters of the alphabet (possibly more than once). A perfect heterogram is, however, the same as a perfect pangram, since both consist of all letters of the alphabet with each represented exactly once. Ab...

I have my doubts about some of the examples ...

Lance Roberts

@random, that was completely inappropriate and against SE policy

jcolebrand

@LanceRoberts do you mean the rollback?

Lance Roberts

6:37 PM

Yes, SE policy is clear on munging. The question was locked by Tim Post in a munged state and random has decided to unlock the answers and rollback to an unmunged state.

jcolebrand

@LanceRoberts so it's against SE policy to properly use the assigned proper name of a language when discussing the language?

Additionally

We are adults, this site is for the discussion of the operation of the site, and if the name is munged then how the FUCK are you supposed to search for it?

Lance Roberts

Read Jeff's answer. The bottom line is that corporate filters will catch it and stop users from being able to use the site.

Searching on 'Brain' will yield the results you desire.

ThiefMaster

meta.stackoverflow.com/search?q=fuck - I'd say that's reason enough not to censor it ;x

And are there really any IT companies that have such strict filters which can be triggered by a single word?

jcolebrand

@ThiefMaster you're only encouraging people to clean up the site you know ;-)

@ThiefMaster schools would

ok, I've got to AFK for now, feel free to flame me in my absence.

ThiefMaster

School kids usually don't really need to use SO though - or rather, we mods are usually happier if they don't.

Most of them will just dump their assignment in the question field anyway

random

6:53 PM

Then they should ban Brainfuck questions completely if they don't want anyone to use its proper noun properly

Lance Roberts

Yes, the site needs more cleanup, but it doesn't need mods flagrantly breaking SE policy.

ThiefMaster

@LanceRoberts: Flagging that word in chat? Really? This is the place where corporate filters really don't matter at all.

Lance Roberts

so now casperOne is threating me because he doesn't agree with SE policy, I imagine with his godlike powers I won't be around long

@ThiefMaster, do you think that maybe they have an offensive flag here for a reason?

ThiefMaster

Yes. It's for truly offensive things. Such as calling other users n-words and similar stuff, posting offensive images, spammers, etc.

casperOne

What's the problem @LanceRoberts?

random

7:00 PM

Assuaging no fears, a society inspissated of its morals drags down those wanting to keep abreast of the social mores. And those wanting to cook with shitake mushrooms will have to use tofu instead

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Q: Substituting fresh shitake mushrooms for dried

My question is exactly the reverse of this one: Substituting Dried Shiitake Mushrooms for Fresh I have a recipe for vegetarian gravy which calls for 8 dried shitake mushrooms, but I only have fresh shitake mushrooms. How much should I use? For reference, the recipe was found here: http://umami...

casperOne

@LanceRoberts Just to be clear, destruction of content is something that we suspend for. Also, let's cut it with the drama about you presuming to know anything about my moral fiber, or the idea that "you might not be around much longer"; a suspension isn't a destruction of your account. You know all this, so please stop stirring the pot on this and leave the post be.

random

Why aren't the mushrooms being munged?

casperOne

@random You got some for me? Cause I'm having KFC tonight and I love KFC and shrooms

Manishearth

@random To be fair, shiitake is spelled with two i's

But yeah, I guess some folks spell it shitake

casperOne

@LanceRoberts meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/165125/… - Bring it up on meta if you have an issue with it.

random

7:03 PM

@Manishearth Guess it depends on where you work

Manishearth

hmm, yeah

Lance Roberts

@casperOne, you've made your lack of moral fiber clear, SE policy has been clear for years on this, even if it hasn't been enforced completely

-6

A: Is the language "BrainFuck" offensive?

BrainF_ck : Programming Languages :: 2 Live Crew : Music It's a joke. The joke isn't very funny, original, interesting, or useful. It causes problems with corporate net filtering software and jeopardizes others' ability to even arrive at the site. All in all, a giant f_cking waste of time for e...

casperOne

@LanceRoberts a) remember to "be nice"; commenting about someone's lack of anything in a manner to make them seem less than something you think they should be is a violation of that, and we've suspended people for less. b) show me where it says that the use of the word fuck, when used in a mature conversation on the site about governance is inappropriate.

Lance Roberts

@casperOne, just did, you're the one not fulfilling his duties, and then threatening me for doing the cleanup as per SE policy.

casperOne

@LanceRoberts Bring it up on meta then. Make a post about it. Otherwise, stop with the editing, and the flagging. It's just noise and we all have better things to do. I'll be locking the brainfuck post that you've been editing, btw.

random

7:07 PM

Has anyone posted on Meta that they can't access the site because it's blocked by such filters based on Brainfuck?

5

Or are we over optimising in the case it may happen?

Mysticial

I just came here to see if there was some discussion going on. All those censorship edits were starting to get on my nerves.

2

Gilles

@random we aren't: we do have a policy of not censoring usernames based on substrings

Lance Roberts

No, I will not stop.

Tony

We're bringing popcorn

Shog9

I have a fantastic solution here.

7

Gilles

7:09 PM

and some SO usernames have caused them to be blocked on other sites

Tony

@Shog9 page not found?

Etienne de Martel

Well, well.

Shog9

The argument was stupid three years ago, and it's stupid now. Please drop it. There are more productive things to spend your time on.

9

random

And if you wanted to search for Brainfuck, we have to account for the various munging techniques used. *, _, $, ♪, etc.

Lance Roberts

@random, no, 'Brain' as a word isn't used that much, it will find what you want.

Tony

7:11 PM

BrainFuck is not offensive. Go home and get a life.

6

seriously

casperOne

@Shog9 I've just found that solution to be effective as well in the other area. Thanks for that. Laters.

Etienne de Martel

This whole "morality" thing cracks me up.

Mysticial

@LanceRoberts I dare you to edit out every single instance of "fuck" in this post:

53

A: Regular expression preg_quote symbols are not detected

Cannot Be Done I'm sorry, but this “problem” is truly impossible to solve. Consider these: ꜰᴜᴄᴋ is U+A730.1D1C.1D04.1D0B, "\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL F}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL U}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL C}\N{LATIN LETTER SMALL CAPITAL K}" ᶠᵘᶜᵏ is U+1DA0.1D58.1D9C.1D4F, "\N{M...

Manishearth

@LanceRoberts Who's going to tell the poor end users that we have censored the word and they ought to search for Brain, not BF?

random

The search needs to properly stem "brain" into "brainfuck" and its variants, otherwise, we need more elastic

Rapptz

7:13 PM

Can someone explain to me the moral ground that supposedly states that munging is less offensive than the actual word itself?

7

R. Martinho Fernandes

I say we censor it to bra*nfuck.

Tony

this ^

Rapptz

@R.MartinhoFernandes lol I remember that

Lance Roberts

@random, wildcarding

random

The search needs wildcarding then. It doesn't appear to have that feature-request made yet

balpha

8:16 PM

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Q: Dude, where's my cursor?

About This user script makes it easier to edit long questions and answers by doing the following things: It constrains the height of the Markdown preview to 500 pixels by default, so you can see the preview of the section you're editing (and don't have to scroll down a mile to see the prev...