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12:00 AM
That would probably cause @RebeccaChernoff to show up and go >_<
 
yes, how silly of me we shouldn't ping @RebeccaChernoff
pinging @RebeccaChernoff would ben wrong
 
I agree. Let's not ping @RebeccaChernoff right now.
 
The Santa Monica SO meetup with le Atwood.
 
good gawd you people!
 
ahhh that explains the rockband ... @RebeccaChernoff should use this picuture
 
12:02 AM
@Zypher I don't think she liked us pinging her for no good reason ...
I'm lmaoing
 
I was on a Skype call and all I heard were these frakking chat sounds.
 
@RebeccaChernoff It wasn't me, but once you're here. Would this qualify for an open source ad?
 
Well see there's the problem. I have all my chat sounds turned off.
 
does it fit with the criteria in the oss post on MSO?
 
@RebeccaChernoff you don't really expect @Moshe to have checked into it first and ... searched do you?
 
12:03 AM
hides
 
@Zypher Yeah, I'm about to leave now too :p I've gotta go walk the dog and fix dinner so I can be back at 8 for a special sermon
 
the people on the train are looking at me like i'm crazy
 
@drachenstern :P I looked, but I dunno...
 
@Zypher and you find this odd...why?
 
@Zypher Well... Are they right?
 
12:05 AM
@RebeccaChernoff sadly i don't ... @Moshe probably
 
Anyone wanna be closer #5 on this one?
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Q: Can developers access user identifiable information from their iPhone app downloads? How about Android phones?

CrashalotWhen users download iPhone apps, can developers gain access to user identifiable information (e.g., full name, email address, iTunes account)? How about Android app downloads? We believe the answer is no, but just wanted to verify the privacy policies on the respective platforms. So developers...

 
12:27 AM
hmm
Ugh I really wish I had some money about now
 
Is it just me, or are more and more decisions being made within stack exchange inc without community participation than out in the open?
 
@AdamDavis I for one welcome our now VC overlords... ;)
 
Sure, it's a company, and some things need attention, and some things must be done outside the public eye, but it seems like a few big proposals and recent changes that received a lot of community flak has convinced SEI that it's better to simply do the work than sit down with the community and hash it out.
@GeorgeMarian Heh. It's a mixed blessing for any company.
 
@AdamDavis Well lets see
 
@AdamDavis I blame them hiring half of the community. But no, more seriously, I'm not entirely sure what you mean.
 
12:40 AM
Lots of money vs no money
I call that a win
though I don't even know how SE is profitable
at all
 
@TimStone For instance, Jeff's last comment on meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/86165/…
Essentially says, "We're not following through with this proposal, we're no longer going to talk to the community about it, and we are implementing something that is going to perform a similar function."
 
@AdamDavis I'm not even sure why they'd do that
 
No. It means that internally, we're back to the drawing board.
 
@AdamDavis Sometimes it's easier to ask for forgiveness then permission. :)
 
> We are reevaluating this based on community feedback. The new heuristic to prevent questions being asked will probably be based on a combination of question closes, question deletes, question flags, and lack of significant upvoting, even at very low levels (0.20 etc) -- scoped to new-ish users.
 
12:43 AM
> This solution will be on a need to know basis now; unless you're getting blocked by it, you don't need to know about it.
 
Bye bye community driven
 
There's nothing particularly sensitive about it, so the only reason not to discuss it publicly is to avoid confrontation.
There is the problem that the community is not privy to the data that SEI has, so we can't possibly know enough to make the best choice, but that doesn't mean that the statistics that are driving the decisions can't be published and the resulting decisions discussed. Except it takes a lot of work, and the only thing SEI gets back from the community is flak about it.
So it just gives a very strong impression of a widening gulf. It's not a bad thing - it's just how things are going to have to operate in order for SEI to make significant progress in the direction they intend to go.
 
@AdamDavis I don't mean to enter this conversation; but isn't that data available via the dumps?
 
I'm just yammering, feel free to butt in with anything.
 
Eh
 
12:48 AM
@MarkElliot The data on flags, closed questions, etc is not available.
 
I still have to figure out how I can pay for this server
 
@AdamDavis is there a reason for that?
 
And this particular issue requires knowledge of at least that information.
 
but I have to get it because its like hell yeah in a 2U form factor
 
Deleted questions are not part of the corpus, and some are deleted due to sensitive information. Therefore they are not released as part of the data dump.
There's a bunch of discussions on that on meta.
 
12:50 AM
@AdamDavis ok -- idle curiosity satisfied
 
Obviously I'm turning into a grumpy old man.
 
I'm curious what kinds of things we can teach an ML algo to pick up from the SO data
 
Then again, it's Spring again. Perhaps I just need to turn leechblock back on and come back in the fall like I did last year. If things are irritating me it means I've become too involved...
 
@AdamDavis whaaaambulance dispatched.
 
but haven't had time to mess around with it
anyone played with the data dumps?
it'd be pretty neat if we could train something to automatically recognize tags
 
12:53 AM
@MarkElliot nope
@MarkElliot as in?
 
@MarkElliot I think people need to write coherent questions for that first. ;)
 
@TimStone actually, that'd be a key indicator
I'd be willing to be most people using PHP use a particular diction
and people using perl something quite different
 
@AdamDavis Yeah, people seem to have an issue with actually discussing things lately, heh. A lot of bitching.
 
@TimStone humbug!
 
@TimStone I suspect one part of the problem is that Meta, once a cozy hive of crazy, has grown along with stackoverflow, and so there are a lot more opinionated people. It's hard to have a good coherent discussion in a stadium packed with 5,000 slightly crazy users.
 
12:56 AM
@AdamDavis and some system admins.../
 
@MarkElliot I'd be surprised if people using a particular language could be discerned by diction. You should parse the data dump and find out!
 
@AdamDavis did you know you can tell news from non-news the same way?
authorship too
 
@Jacob The really crazy sysadmins hang out in meta.serverfault.
 
@AdamDavis We visit Meta.so...
 
@AdamDavis unfortunately I need two things to hack on the data dump: time and resources, eventually...
 
12:58 AM
speaking of meta.so
you'll be able to use that in about 5 minutes
 
@AdamDavis Definitely. Faced with that, I'd be inclined to just back away and handle things myself every now and then too.
 
Anywho, I'm procrastinating a deadline. Good morning! And if I don't see you again, good afternoon, good evening, and good night!
 
Ah, happy working!
 
@TimStone Yep. It's Stack Exchange Inc's own "eternal september" of sorts.
'night all.
 
@AdamDavis night
 
1:02 AM
0
Q: Understanding Spring AOP

aces.I am working with Spring 3.0 framework and still a novice. Can anyone explain me in layman terms what is AOP programming? (a short example will definitely help) How does Spring incorporate/enhance/support it?

I really want to point this guy to the manual, only because Spring's manuals are freakin' awesome
but I don't want to sound like I'm RTFMing
 
@AdamDavis be good
 
How come this guy has a 40 upvote question and only 109 rep?
 
ok to say this?
> [Spring's manuals](http://static.springsource.org/spring/docs/3.0.x/reference/aop.html) are really awesome, and I'd encourage you to take a look.
 
@JakubHampl because he asked a good question?
 
1:04 AM
But isn't 40 * 5 = 200?
 
@drachenstern 40 upvotes = 200 rep
 
@JakubHampl Well, he's put up 6 500 rep bounties (along with some others)
 
@MarkElliot oh, well that's a silly question.
 
@JakubHampl something to do with his bounty? stackoverflow.com/users/70942/ant2009?tab=reputation
 
@MarkElliot Oh missed that button, thanks.
 
1:05 AM
@JakubHampl yeah, if you're interested in some amusing rep history look at Jon Skeet ;)
 
@MarkElliot I think that would make a good comment, but it doesn't have enough substance for an answer
 
@ughoavgfhw I'm trying not to write an RTFM comment
it never crossed my mind to post that as an answer
@GeorgeMarian yay darwinism!
 
@MarkElliot Then you should be good. The "are really awesome" part pretty much makes it sound less RTFM.
 
@MarkElliot LOL
 
1:09 AM
@GeorgeMarian Ahahaha :D
 
It's an ad for the WA lottery. Goes well with @drachenstern comment the other day about the well-off in human society spending their time trying to kill themselves.
 
Hopefully they made sure there weren't any cliffs nearby.
 
In other news, this description continues to amuse me:
> The padding problem is especially noticeable in certain applications. Rhythmbox, for example, looks like what you would get if the giant marshmallow man from the Ghostbusters movie wiped its fluffy white rear end on iTunes.
 
nice
It's fairly accurate, though iTunes itself is also rather fluffy.
 
1:12 AM
It looks like they're pretty safe from cliffs, but the umbrella in the background suggests they probably shouldn't be wearing metals suits. It would be interesting if they got rusted in.
 
That reminds me, I used to have a suit of armour in my house.
I wasn't a winner of the Washington lottery though, so no Segway for jousting.
 
@TimStone I think the proper way to do it without a Segway is to get on a skateboard and be pulled behind a car.
Of course, you also have to make sure the cars don't crash, or it won't be as fun
 
Not to mention the chances of one of the cars running over you
 
Meh, there's no need for cars.
 
Plus it's even worse if there are cliffs around, because if your car goes over it pulls you with it.
 
1:19 AM
Seeing who can build up more momentum would be part of the challenge.
 
@drachenstern Are you here?
 
@Jacob most likely
 
@drachenstern You should go in SF chat and help Wesley :)
really?
Wesley wanted to be banned not us
 
@Jacob The request was made.
Additionally:
 
is there a grepcode for the std C libraries?
 
1:32 AM
in The Comms Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 9 mins ago, by drachenstern
It sounds as though you all want to be banned from chat.SE so I'm considering just kickbanning all of you
in The Comms Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 10 mins ago, by drachenstern
Give me a compelling reason to not ban all of you for an hour?
Thems the problems with begging a mod to come over for kickbanning purposes
 
@drachenstern Wesley said he needed a mod
but ok
 
Where's your banhammer now @drachenstern?
 
@mootinator I've never claimed to be a mod here, but I can summon one myself ;)
 
Bahaha.
 
@Shog9 can you step over here?
 
1:42 AM
Hey everyone meta.so works
I'm setting up chat.meta.so now
@YOU want to update your question to say that it now works?
 
but not to meta.so/questions/86143/hey-so-wont-you-take-meta-so-domain ... you should totally fix that
 
@drachenstern I set it to redirect, I'm not even sure how to do that on IIS
 
@Jacob you would need to use a server side script oriented approach ... a bit of programming, as it were.
 
@drachenstern That gives me an idea
 
@Jacob That's what I do.
 
1:52 AM
Is anyone around who can spare an invite to careers.stackoverflow.com? I feel I should qualify for an account based on my SO contribution, but the automated system won't talk to me!
 
@Jacob Have you tried this xoc.net/works/tips/domain.asp ? Haven't tyred it myself.
 
@GregSansom I'm thinking that you don't understand what the criteria are ...
How's this, can you give me a very compelling reason to give you an invite?
 
@drachenstern you're right - I've looked but it seems the criteria is not public...
 
@GregSansom Don't answer, he'll ban you.
 
@GregSansom If you can't give @drachenstern a very good reason, I accept bribes.
 
1:56 AM
@Jacob I don't have banhammer powers on this server
 
@drachenstern You'd find a way
 
well I'm not going to suck anything out of a hose in a dark alley if that's what you mean
3
 
@GregSansom lmao, that's not what I mean.
 
@drachenstern you should give him one for that
 
@GregSansom Is that considered a bribe.
 
1:58 AM
@Jacob I don't think that would be a good encouragement
 
Incidentally I do happen to know where I can get an HO scale model train.
 
@mootinator but do you have any frozen seafood?
 
@drachenstern check my profile - stackoverflow.com/users/503969/greg-sansom. It's not brilliant but I think it shows I'm not a bot and confirms I'm providing value to the community.
 
@GregSansom yeah. That's not really a compelling reason to want a careers.SO profee tho ...
I'm only asking you to put a little effort into it. You're gonna need to when you goto set it up anyways.
 
@drachenstern says... "dance"
 
2:02 AM
@mootinator: lol that's what it seems like
 
@mootinator lol, shush you :p
 
@drachenstern well, he could just import from linked in
 
@Jacob that's not even close to enough. I can see you don't have a profile there either
@TylerChacha !!
 
Decided to add my entire shares feed to the home page of my blog..
@drachenstern What?
 
@TylerChacha nothin
just hey
 
2:04 AM
@drachenstern on careers?
 
You don't know Cheers huh?
 
I've heard of it
 
@Jacob well if you did you would know that doing that doesn't give a lot of benefit
You still have to go back and add tags and descriptions and edit everything for markdown
 
@drachenstern I do... I don't use linked in though
 
@drachenstern Refresh your page
 
2:05 AM
Ima send my wife a careers invite. She's an IT tech with no formal training who doesn't use SF or SU.
 
YOU
@Jacob, I think adding "I've now redirecting meta.so to meta.stackoverflow.com" in your answer isn't better?
 
Just to be annoying.
 
@drachenstern And don't make me regret giving you italics..
 
@TylerChacha ah, that would be why then ...
Finally! I can unstar crap! Now to use this ability responsibly
It sucks having it on chat.SE and not on chat.MSO
 
I'm feeling nice today. I wish it would stop.
 
2:10 AM
@drachenstern I have the strangest feeling I'll be banned...
 
hahahaha, can I do that now? :\
 
@drachenstern I think so
 
@Jacob If there was a ban ability, you'd have been banned like a month ago..
 
noop
 
@drachenstern You'll just extend it on chat.SE
 
2:12 AM
@Jacob noop
 
I need food
 
@drachenstern cool
 
@TylerChacha well, unless you like fermented wheat ... this is not the place for food
 
@drachenstern I see what you did there.
 
@Jacob We all saw what he did there...
 
2:14 AM
@TylerChacha LIES!
 
I
I've been cleaning up my resume, careers.stackoverflow.com/chacha102, along with my Github account, github.com/chacha
I'm still thrilled that I got to github.com/chacha before the weird people over at chacha.com..
not that they really contribute anything to open source... or the world..
 
@TylerChacha looking good
 
@TylerChacha solid diplomacy there +1 Good sir
 
2:30 AM
@Jacob Any luck with the redirect thing?
 
@TylerChacha: You get the dancing unicorns!
 
@AlexandreJasmin It works, but only to the homepage
 
I love Meta :)
 
I love unicorns
 
You can see them every time you upvote / downvote a question if you install my script!
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Q: Unicorn Voting - Bringing the Joy of April 1 All Year 'Round!

George Edison About They're back! Although they were created for April 1st, you can now enjoy them throughout the whole year! Simply install this UserScript and commence upvoting and downvoting. License The Unicorn Software License Download This script is available as a UserScript: http://files.qui...

 
2:34 AM
@GeorgeEdison Yes I saw them on April 1st. Thanks
 
...and you don't want to see them again!?!?
 
Sure I do ;-)
 
@GeorgeEdison AWEEEEEEEEEYEEEEEEEE
@GeorgeEdison why do you come up with such awesome scripts?
 
@Jacob That one didn't take much work.
 
2:50 AM
@drachenstern WHAAAT?
 
@TylerChacha How about a badge for a meta post which has a decent positive score which promptly goes negative after Jeff Atwood criticizes it. We could call it "Trampled by Sheep"
 
@Shog9 oh sure, now you show up. I wanted you to assist in a kickban earlier, but now it's no fun ...
 
@drachenstern Ah. I was down by the river, cooking hotdogs, and reading The Chat Cast.
...mostly cooking hotdogs.
 
But hey, I can still kickban you, if you're in a masochistic mood.
 
2:52 AM
He is.
 
I always am. I wasn't the one that wanted kickbanning (they all did over in comms room) but I hear Jacob is
 
That was distinctly less impressive than I expected it to be.
 
Needs moar avatar explody or squishy effect.
 
GWAAAR!
Hum.
 
BLARGH!
'k, 'nuff playing around.
Why the hell does Feeds show up when something gets flag-deleted?
 
YOU
3:03 AM
Nice name @Feeds
 
FEEDS HUNGRY
 
@drachenstern Feel free to ban me again, I'm off to do stuff
:)
 
See, that's no fun
 
@drachenstern I know
 
Well, I'm glad I got my new badge :)
 
3:15 AM
@TylerChacha new badge?
 
@Jacob I got a 10-point badge for the answer
 
 
1 hour later…
4:22 AM
@Jacob: Are you around?
 
@GeorgeEdison yep
whats up?
 
I have a new version of the FHC script.
I just have to make a couple quick adjustments.
 
^_^
 
@GeorgeEdison ok
what might the changes be?
 
Support for other SE sites.
 
4:26 AM
@GeorgeEdison AWESOME
 
^---- There they are.
That just replaces the old process.php
On top of everything, it's backwards compatible with the old script.
 
Sweet.
 
@GeorgeEdison Server Side is green
 
Okay... I just checked.
It's working on SuperUser.
I'll try a few other sites to make sure it's working on them.
 
@GeorgeEdison Can we get the new script please?
:)
 
4:28 AM
Thanks again.
 
I'll beta it :)
@GeorgeEdison Not a Problem
 
I'll get it out to you as soon as possible.
 
I've watched so many TED talks in the past few hours..
 
If you need hosting for anything else, let me know
 
Still need to patch a couple of things.
 
4:29 AM
Really is a cool group of people
 
Wow.
The satellite is acting up again.
 
I'm sure glad the tech is coming back on the 20th to do the job he was supposed to yesterday.</sarc>
 
@Jacob Seems to be working alright on everything but Ask Ubuntu.
 
@GeorgeEdison thats ok :) I don't visit ask Ubuntu
 
4:43 AM
@Jacob It's not really that it even doesn't work there.
...it just has some weird CSS that's messing up the brush.
I think I'll release it now.
 
@GeorgeEdison ah, cool
 
@GeorgeEdison awesome
 
Can anyone confirm that this music video is footage from lord of the rings?
@GeorgeEdison what does your script do?
Oh actually, I see.
(is on iOS)
 
good here
 
4:46 AM
@Moshe It allows inline image annotations on any SE site.
In other words, you can edit images from your browser.
 
@Moshe Yes.
Two towers even I think
 
Oh cool.
@Jacob it's in German you might enjoy/learn from it.
 
I think it's all three, but I'm not sure
 
Why is the GreasePocket project invisible? Seems dead and gone to me...
Looks like they were trying to add a full featured userscript API.
Thanks folks. Have a good night.
 
51
Q: StackExchangeâ„¢ SuperCollider Freehand Circleâ„¢ Editor - [Now supported on EVERY StackExchange site!]

George Edison Important: All SE sites (with one exception - see below) are now supported. Please upgrade to the latest version to enjoy this wonderful new feaure! A special thank you to Jacob Jernigan for donating space and bandwidth to host the images generated by this script. Please...

2
 
5:01 AM
@GeorgeEdison how does one invoke the toolbox?
 
@Moshe Just hover over an image and a link should popup asking if you want to edit it.
^----- Example.
 
I want tap support please just so I can play with it on iOS.
 
@Moshe: Can you install UserScripts on iOS?
 
@georgeEdison no. But I'm working on it.
:-)
 
You're working on what?
 
Whoa! That's pretty neat.
 
But. @GeorgeEdison I tested your script:
Totally not finished but I got the tool box to show. Hehe.
 
0
Q: Unnecessary CSS property causing all manner of problems for UserScripts

George EdisonThe CSS for both Ask Ubuntu and Ask Ubuntu Meta contains a useless CSS value. (When I say useless, I mean that it doesn't affect the page at all if removed.) As you can see, the .container for the page contains the CSS style position: relative; and I have no idea why because none of the other ...

 
@GeorgeEdison use JS to overwrite it. I did the same for my minimaloverflow script.
I actually had an HTML element modified once for a script. Hang on.
@GeorgeEdison:
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Q: Minimalist Style shouldn't include " - Stack Exchange" in the title.

MosheOn the SE sites, there have always been fancy logos that fit the theme. However, the new mobile theme hides them and shows alternate text. The text has contained the site name and then " - StackExchange". I assume that this is for SEO purposes but on sites like "English Language & Usage", thi...

Well not an entire element.
But yea. You just have to ask.
 
Heh. Just had the best poker hand ever.
 
5:17 AM
heh. why am I still up? time to rememdy that
 
It's like they all just handed me chips.
I need to get out of this game & sleep also
 
Night folks.
 
Night
 
Night everyone
 
 
1 hour later…
6:53 AM
@Jin woah a bacon fragrance
 
Jin
@Reno yeah seen it
 
7:06 AM
Oooo... look, Singapore is second on that visits per country population list. Quickly, lets kill off some people so that we can be first!
 
7:34 AM
 
0
Q: Why tasks in Microsoft Project turned red?

chrisiekHi, I noticed that tasks in my MS Project in Gantt view turned red, out of my control. Can you help to explain what might happen? Chris

SU material?
Also, what's 'Gantt view'?
 
A Gantt chart is a type of bar chart that illustrates a project schedule. Gantt charts illustrate the start and finish dates of the terminal elements and summary elements of a project. Terminal elements and summary elements comprise the work breakdown structure of the project. Some Gantt charts also show the dependency (i.e., precedence network) relationships between activities. Gantt charts can be used to show current schedule status using percent-complete shadings and a vertical "TODAY" line as shown here. Although now regarded as a common charting technique, Gantt charts were consi...
 
8:03 AM
Weird, how did the 'possible duplicate' comment not get autodeleted here?
-1
Q: How big is an Object? Why is there no sizeof?

Damodar Possible Duplicates: In Java, what is the best way to determine the size of an object? sizeof java object C has a sizeof operator, and it needs to have one, because the user has to manage calls to malloc, and because the size of primitive types (like long) is not standardized. But in...

 
YOU
8:19 AM
because there is no "possible"?
 
 
1 hour later…
9:41 AM
@YOU No, any comment containing the link to the dupe will be automatically removed AFAIK
 
YOU
10:20 AM
1
A: Auto "possible duplicate of" comment not deleted after question got closed.

Jeff AtwoodHmm. Does look like a bug, but I can't reproduce it locally. When I tag a question with a duplicate, then close it as duplicate, the comments are always deleted. A few things to be aware of, for auto-deletion of these comments to work: question must be closed with final close reason of [exact ...

- question must be closed with final close reason of [exact duplicate]
- comments must start with "possible duplicate of", exactly
- comments must not have been edited
I don't know if those rules are changed though @YiJiang
 
hello hello
 
YOU
hello :)
 
oh right another Unicorn :D
 
10:44 AM
oh man I'm slow today ... flagged a question and when I was done flagging it, the question was already closed
 
YOU
flagged a question as spam? @OctavianDamiean
 
@YOU no, custom text as for some reason I had no option to flag it as offtopic
it was the Ruby on Rails question
 
YOU
I think your flag would still reach to moderator, even it is closed.
 
@YOU yes it would
I think you should also be able to flag deleted posts
 
YOU
yeah
 
11:02 AM
gosh jQuery is awesome :)
 
11:17 AM
hello, can I request up voting a certain tag synonym on SO from mighty people here?
 
YOU
probably post tag synonyms request on meta
 
ok, thank YOU
 
11:36 AM
Eh, the number of suggested edits on SO is piling up
 
 
1 hour later…
12:41 PM
have a nice weekend and stuff
 
@Reno And stuff!!
 
1:16 PM
 
@YiJiang The «'LOL' around the world» section makes me sad
because the Italian edition is 'asd', 'asdf', 'asdfasdasd' and corruptions thereof
sometimes even Gs or Ws turn their ugly head in the conglomerate
 
1:35 PM
...did I just hear a Chinese newsreader reporting the involvement of 'Unicorn troops' in Ivory Coast?
 
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