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12:03 AM
is it me or is search failing for everyone?
 
12:17 AM
nevermind, it seems to be working again
 
12:40 AM
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How Stuff Works

Proposed Q&A site for people who need to know the principles of how things work

Currently in commitment.

1 more user...
 
12:52 AM
@TheBeachException I'm sure we can find someone to commit!
 
@TheMountainException No worries, my dad did :)
100 percent FTW
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2:38 AM
@badpssockpuppet Shame about the bug on the bubble sort.
 
2:56 AM
@Hogan bug? I saw the video, what bug?
 
@Moshe hmmm... they skipped the 2nd and the 5th iteration of the loop.
If you look carefully after the first iteration they flip two numbers as correct -- actually only one is correct via the algorithm.
They did the next one right (while the next two were in the right spot -- so it was not a different algorithm) then they flipped two again on the next iteration.
Plus at the end they assume the optimization of having a bool to see if any swaps happen -- I can let them get away with that -- but flipping two at once... it is just wrong.
Plus the implementation of insertion sort is moronic... it should be faster than bubble sort not slower. They really did not show how insertion sorts works. You don't change which element you pick to insert. sigh not how it works at all.
@drachenstern I'd assume because of "security" concerns of having your email in the cloud.
@drachenstern Of course you can configure gmail to act as a pop server so you get the nice spam blocking and store it locally -- then it has the same security as any other server. But people are squeamish about google having their information sometimes. (shrug).
Err never mind about the insertion sort -- I was looking at the select sort -- of course it was different. (face palm).
 
3:57 AM
Anyone here?
 
Nope.
 
Same old.
Heh
Nobody is here.
 
Define "here." :)
 
Eh, I just find it funny that someone in my family is spamming their contact list about my upcoming app update. Wanted to share.
:-D
 
4:00 AM
lol
 
Well, \O/
 
My brain is having trouble with a concept today.
Wait.. I think just saying that made me realize what I'm doing wrong.
 
4:21 AM
@Hogan ewwwwwww POP3??? /me pukes
 
HEh.
I can't be held responsible for data being stupid, right?
Night.
 
@mootinator sure you can! :p you're the developer after all
@mootinator night
 
@drachenstern I'm not the one who enters data stupidly, I just try to display it.
 
oh sheesh, where's my userscript? :(
GAH ... still not here :(
 
Anyone here know anything about FB ads?
@drachenstern Which userscript?
 
4:27 AM
se chat mod
 
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and a reinstall and I'm back :(
I am a new uncle all over again (link forthcoming) (my baby sister's first)
Is it just me or does that tyke have a full head of hair already
 
@drachenstern congratulations!
 
@Trufa danke schoen
 
4:39 AM
I hate to get downvoted!
(when undeserved)
 
agreed there
 
@drachenstern are you a father?
 
Nope. Not gonna happen either (vas has been severed)
 
@drachenstern TMI :P
 
@drachenstern ohh ok
decided young?
 
4:47 AM
@Trufa relative to my death, yes.
@GeorgeMarian so you say. Just enough for those I choose to ask to get naked around me tho ;)
 
@drachenstern you sir are a very literal person.
@drachenstern lol
 
@Trufa I tend to be, yes
 
Hello
 
haha
Just thanked someone on FB with "Thanks". They responded with:
> welx
Hrm... This careers.SO thing seems to be working. Uh Oh, an "Opportunity"!
panics
:-)
 
5:39 AM
I swear I get downvoted maybe 1 in 3 times I answer on SO now. Either my answers suddenly suck or people downvote way more often than they used to
 
@MichaelMrozek or c) you notice it more lately? probably b tho
 
It's always for stupid crap; I'd like to occasionally be downvoted because my answer is flat wrong, not because I left out some unimportant detail
 
Yeah, I totally get that
 
Anyway. I'll go back to my happy meta.SO universe
 
Yep, I'm gonna go back to my happy pillow ;)
 
6:00 AM
@SankarGanesh did you mean Nagoya?
I hope your brother knows to speak japanese, not all the courses are taught in english. Japanese takes a year of dedicated studying to be sorta fluent.
and ... this is a nice blog about a student's life in japan
 
 
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7:46 AM
I AM IN THE LAND OF WAFFLES
 
This answer made me LOL (please don't downvote on account of my linking it here, it's well-intentioned and will probably be removed anyway)
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A: Believe you me, I have a question.

Lefteris GkinisIt is obvious that this phrase is not the proper one, but please gives me the opportunity to present you some “diamonds” which some person says in Greek language. And of course not only people which they’ rent Greeks but people which they say that they are Greeks and most of it they have finish “...

@TimStone you're in Belgium? Cool, that's just around the corner from here!
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Indeed!
I'm in Brussels until Friday, then off to Finland, Latvia, and the UK (I should probably warn @MarcGravell in advance)
 
8:08 AM
@Tim nice! Business or pleasure?
Any special reason for the itinerary? It looks unusual
 
@TimStone it's OK, the fliers have already gone out
 
The Gravellian Mansion always has a spare suite for surprise visitors!
Howewer the en-suite Jacuzzi is currently being cleaned
 
So I earned my first "real" gold badge, Famous Question
I'm sad -- because the question remains unanswered :|
I wonder -- should I delete it?
or ask it deleted?
 
13
Q: Can you disable VLC's font cache?

badpI have many fonts installed and VLC's font cache rebuilding takes several minutes. What is it for? How can I disable it?

 
@Reno yes, that one only
 
Don't delete it. Put a bounty on it!
Or add an update saying that it's not answered yet.
It sure looks answered, with screenshots and all
People are probably hesitant to add their own input if they see that.
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Both! First business, then the rest is vacation :)
 
8:29 AM
@MarcGravell I'm going to submit a feature request in advance to bat signal you if I get arrested for some reason. :P
 
@Timestone: can look on my problem
 
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount Yeah, should be good. I haven't been on vacation in some time, sigh
 
@TimStone: Have a look on this pastebin.com/MVsTgzwM
 
Erm?
 
@TimStone MY desire i want to encrpyt and decrypt a file in java
 
8:56 AM
@Pekkasothertrollingaccount I tried that
given my paltry rep on SU, it was just +100
 
@badpssockpuppet yeah. Mine is as low, otherwise I'd have started one
It's a good question for sure.
 
9:50 AM
@Reno: Hai
 
10:02 AM
@GeorgeMarian: Hai
 
 
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1 hour later…
2:29 PM
@TimPost: I m waiting for you to shoot a question to you
 
Hi @SankarGanesh, What's your question?
 
@TimPost a Career related question
 
@SankarGanesh Ok, what's up?
 
@TimPost: I had one year of exp in Java and almost 10 month of exp in android, my present company gave me a desgination hike from developer to Senior Developer, when i had 1 yr and 6 month of exp
@TimPost:at that time, that company looks me very well, but now they make me to get stress in more situation, so i planned to move some where, i got an offer from xyz compzny, but they offer me only as normal developer position, i was confusing whether to go or not to go
 
@SankarGanesh How different are the salaries?
@SankarGanesh In other words, could you afford to make a little less money, but have much less stress?
 
2:33 PM
@TimPost it's abt some 30% hike, mate, the new xyz company, told me that according to their standard , senior developer position is varied, my question is , i feel my deprompted, that's why i m asking
 
@SankarGanesh Generally, titles are nice, but the decision comes down to personal esteem and financial compensation. If you are lacking either one, it may be wise to consider moving
@SankarGanesh I don't see it as a demotion .. it's a better job, with more money and more opportunity
@SankarGanesh The title itself is only as meaningful as the team you manage and the quality they produce. If you currently only manage a small group .. and everyone is frustrated .. it might not be the company to be a senior developer for. Why not change and work to get the same position in the new company?
 
@TimPost: My current company ask me to train new guys , prepare documentation and gave it to new guys, like that , also i feel, if they got new guy with low salary, they will not give priority to me
 
Then, perhaps the title would mean more to you :)
@SankarGanesh If you don't get the $$$ to go with the title, you really don't have it anyway. I'd go with the new company, sounds like they could give you more opportunities to grow
It is not a demotion
 
@TimPost hmm, Thanks, me too thinking the same, my current is small organsiation having 50 no of empolyee , only, meanwhile the new XYZ company has 300 employees
 
Don't put too much pride into what your business card says, it's better to be proud of what you accomplish. In this industry, having a balanced life is hard to accomplish.. sounds like you have a chance to do that while earning MORE money .. so I would probably take it
@SankarGanesh Yes, working up to a senior position in a firm with 300 means A LOT more than the same position in a firm with 50.
 
2:39 PM
@TimPost i was confused on yesterday night sleep whether, to go or not go , hesitation, also i had 1 year and 10 month of exp, shall i wait for 2 months and go for a new company, because leaving a frim before 1 yr completion will cause any damage to me in future
 
@SankarGanesh Yes, It is good to stay at least one year .. helps avoid uncomfortable questions in the future
I (personally) would not hire someone who changed jobs every 6 - 8 months
I see a lot of people who actually do that (change often).. I think we're advertising jobs in the wrong newspapers or something.
 
@TimPost hmm, i m not like that person, mate, i had only 1 year of exp in java and now exp of 10 months in android, but the new XYZ frim, is a good one, they calling me from the last two month, they are very happy in the interview result of mine, mate, that's why they calling again and again
 
@SankarGanesh Will they be patient enough to wait for you to finish one year at your current company?
 
@TimPost No Timpost, actually they conducted interview at the time of Jan month and i got selected in that month too, i thought i may leave current company, but my teammates left the current company, suddenly, so my current company requested pls stay here, so i had sent decline offer letter email to them, pointing out that reason
@TimPost: then they told me, ok, in future if you want to leave from current company, pls call us
 
@SankarGanesh I'd call them .. tell them you need to give 45 days notice at current company (that's close enough to 12 months on a resume anyway)
 
2:47 PM
@TimPost: But last week, they called me we have another opening, pls try to utilize this one, that's why we called you, like that, they told
 
@SankarGanesh Take it .. opportunity seldom knocks twice
 
But I don't speak serbian!
 
lol
 
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Q: Are all apps localized to Serbian by default?

MosheMy app is in the App Store and I had pulled it up so I can share the link with someone. I looked at the languages and saw something really strange. The app was listed as localized for several languages which I know that I didn't use. I don't even know what half of those languages sound like. Is...

 
@TimPost hmmm, that's why me too thinking same, i think they like my interview perfromance, and my techincal skills, mate
 
2:48 PM
Ist wery wery wery konvused
 
@TheMountainException I have a question for you, no rush.
 
@Moshe maybe it uses something that supports Serbian ?
 
@TimPost That's usually not how it works.
It should be just English. Localizations are detected by the App Store "system" based on the presence of specially named folders - one per language.
 
Does it seem to anyone else like there's been an unusually high volume of "why am I seeing 'no longer accepting questions from this account' when I try to post" questions lately?
 
yeah
we had one this morning on #PHP
 
2:55 PM
That means it's working!
 
@PopularDemand Yes, seems like it's increased from last week
 
Hm. I wonder why.
 
I haven't seen anyone complaining on chat in about a month. So from 0 to 1 is a huge increase!
 
I wonder if that particular bit was tweaked recently?
I've yet to see the immune system fire on a false positive though
 
@TimPost thanks, for your valuable suggestions, i had a big confusion in yesterday night, now mind clear
 
2:57 PM
@TimPost What does that make you, a macrophage?
 
@PopularDemand Ideally no, more like an antibiotic
@PopularDemand The more bad content we don't ingest, without accidentally screening out stuff we want, the better (imho)
One train wreck question burns a lot of time for several people. The person who wrote it, the people who tried to edit it, the people who flag it, the moderators who deal with it and then the users who try to read it in the various stages.
So, the more we can reject, without false positives .. the better. If SO had an immune system, these kinds of things would be part of it.
 
@TimPost: See you later, may be after an hour
 
@SankarGanesh Take care
 
@TimPost Thank you very much your sentence, Bye, Tc,:)
 
3:12 PM
@ircmaxell Nice
 
ya
 
You will thank me for those ten minutes later.
 
3:26 PM
@PopularDemand Sure, ask away
 
@TimPost if only we had someone we could ask ... like a developer who frequented chatrooms where blue users were invited ...
 
^^ 33 minutes of Unicode characters, one per frame
 
@TheMountainException Didn't you say there was a good German restaurant near where you (used to) live?
And if so, what's its name/address?
 
3:41 PM
@ircmaxell There's about 20 minutes of Chinese in there
 
yeah, what does that say :-P
 
@ircmaxell Well, 95% of those words are probably no longer used and won't appear anywhere outside a dictionary, ancient text or the occasional name
 
With all that extra room in wide characters, you'd THINK someone would have put a middle finger in there. But no ....
 
That word in the screenshot consist of a 民 and two 虫, but together I have no idea what it means
民 means people, 虫 means bugs
 
@YiJiang Faur enough
 
3:45 PM
@PopularDemand I did! It was the Bavarian Brathaus
 
@YiJiang People bug you a lot?
 
@TheMountainException Hm, any relation to the other two NC Bavarian Brathauses?
 
@YiJiang It means please step on the cockroaches
 
@PopularDemand Yup. One is owned by Paul, the other by... I've forgotten his name... bavarianbrathaus.info is the other one
 
@ircmaxell Funny, but probably not. Words don't always mean what their components imply
 
3:47 PM
I know, I'm just playing
 
@Hogan that's funny, I see "rad surfer men" :p (letters as pictures as words)
 
They used to be business partners at the single Bavarian Brathaus in Sanford, NC, then IDK what happened but they closed that one and opened two: the Durham one and the Cary one
 
@TheMountainException Interesting. Thanks!
 
I'm not sure if they're still partners or not but they're both excellent
@PopularDemand Sure thing. There's also J. Betski's, which is much more upscale, much smaller portions and more expensive. It's "german inspired" but is also highly reccomended
 
@TheMountainException I'll keep that in mind.
 
3:49 PM
@PopularDemand Will you be in the RDU area?
 
Got a friend moving to Chapel Hill for grad school in a few months.
 
Awesome. It's a great area.
I have googled and found a number of German restaurants in the Asheville area also, but I have yet to try them
 
4:38 PM
@YiJiang Google translate has two opinions, depending on the order of the characters.
 
@Moshe Eh, no, that's not how it works
 
@Moshe If you saw a piece of paper with the letters c a b on it, would you think it meant a common public transportation or the answers to a quiz?
 
@YiJiang I know.
@drachenstern Depends on context.
 
@Moshe then what the hell are you thinking above?
 
@drachenstern I wasn't counting on the accuracy of Google Translate, just curious to see what it would output.
 
4:50 PM
@Moshe ahhhh, that's ... interesting.
 
@Moshe Meh, garbage in, garbage out
 
@GeorgeMarian: and @mootinator: and @drachenstern: I m back
 
throws a rose bowl sized parade.
 
@mootinator that's a lot of flowers
 
Yes, yes it is.
 
5:13 PM
Do you have a magical garden?
 
@drachenstern Um, yeah. But, it's a secret garden...
 
@GeorgeMarian does it cause little crippled boys to be able to walk again?
 
@drachenstern LOL In a sense.
 
5:54 PM
They're HEARRRRRRRRRR :D :D :D :D :D :D (unboxing porn shortly)
 
/drool
@drachenstern Now that is pretty cool.
 
Now I gotta find out how much this replacement cord costs :p
 
@GeorgeMarian that was the RAESON for my absolute need to purchase this pair after the other one gave out for that problem ;)
 
What? It's not gold plated?
 
5:57 PM
lol, guess not
I'll tell you the sound is just right tho, so I'm not upset over that :p
I'm pretty sure it's even the raeson de etre of this line of headphones (the "2" in AE2)
oh I missed my bose's ... :D
 
<side-remark>BOSE is horribly overpriced. Either that, or everything else is horribly underpriced.</side-remark>
 
@badpssockpuppet I guess you missed where I got the first pair as a gift and these at a substantial discount? ;) I agree otherwise. But they are SOOO nice, I won't complain.
 
@drachenstern Heh. I have the previous version. They're quite nice.
 
I also like to use Apple products on a very regular basis.
 
@drachenstern Fixed, lucky you :)
 
6:01 PM
@badpssockpuppet ;) thanks
I still agree otherwise. They do tend to be marked up quite a bit over others ...
do we have an audio.se? Should we ask if the quality is that much greater than that of other brands? (see how that's objective)
 
Heh. If you want expensive headphones, check these out.
And, those are relatively cheap for that manufacturer.
 
I really like my Bose too, though I think I have cord issues.
 
@TimStone I firmly recommend the 2 series ;)
 
I'll probably pick some up, then. Still wish they made wireless ones though. :(
 
@TimeStone: One Java Dobut, mate, can you help me
 
6:16 PM
Hey
Got something to show you
 
@TylerChacha i have a one java doubt , can i shoot it to you
 
You could.. but my expertise is more in PHP/Javascript. I'll give it a shot though
 
@SankarGanesh It's not a doubt, it's a question. And just ask it.
 
You could also just post it on StackOverflow..
Turns out it is a wonderful site..
 
@TylerChacha What's this StackOverflow you speak of?
 
6:18 PM
@GeorgeMarian That is a JSON Viewer showing the last 30 StackOverflow questions
 
\O/ Ultimate Omer 2 update Processing for App Store!
 
@TylerChacha Ah, very cool. I suppose I should enable JavaScript.
 
ya..
 
@GeorgeMarian Thanks, Buddy
 
@drachenstern Bose doesn't have a lifetime cord warranty? FAIL.
 
6:23 PM
@mootinator apparently not
 
Also, for the record, I'm only 10% here, so don't expect too much from me :P
 
@TimStone: and @TylerChacha: and @GeorgeMarian: and @mootinator: My desire is i want to encrypt and decrypt a file in java, for that i had reffered this article www-users.york.ac.uk/~mal503/lore/pkencryption.htm, it works fine , but the problem when i encrypt, it thorws me the error called java.security.InvalidKeyException: Illegal key size or default parameters any idea on this error, i may think wthether the key is genearted by openssl is not right
 
Headphones generally aren't designed for my ears.
 
@SankarGanesh a) I'm not a java developer. b) That's what stackoverflow is for.
 
6:25 PM
Just post the question. Don't notify us all. Especially since you may likely edit it. :P
 
The Belgians need better cell phone coverage, arg.
 
@SankarGanesh We would need to see how you're calling the function and what not. That would be a good candidate for asking on SO.
 
@GeorgeMarian and @mootinator: Thanks, :)
 
And now: Lunch
@SankarGanesh you really don't need to address specific people in the room when you want to ask a question
 
Ever get that feeling like you're talking to a wall?
 
6:30 PM
Later: Lunch; The Return
 
@SankarGanesh we have java rooms just for that purpose (asking questions that are targeted to the audience)
 
Yah, lunch may not be a bad idea.
 
@drachenstern but that room is idle now
 
@SankarGanesh there is this incredibly good Q&A site I want to introduce you to to answer your computer programming questions: stackoverflow.com <-- go ahead and visit it
@SankarGanesh as is the C# room.
However, were I to go there and start talking, odds are someone else would as well.
@GeorgeMarian ... might I suggest lunch? ;)
 
Who knows CSS in here?
 
6:32 PM
@drachenstern hehe. Good idea. I'll need energy for my meeting later this afternoon.
 
@SankarGanesh lastly: we really can't diagnose "throws an error" without seeing code, which means posting on SO would be greatly advantageous. But by all means post the link to the question here after asking.
@TylerChacha what's the question? I might.
 
@TylerChacha I know of it. ;) What's the question?
 
@drachenstern Sure
 
Notice if you click a few, the columns drop down
vertically
 
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Q: invalid AES key length error

silverkidthis code give invalid AES key length error. how can i correct it ? ( i want 128 bit key AES encryption ) package org.temp2.cod1; import java.security.*; import javax.crypto.*; import javax.crypto.spec.*; import java.io.*; public class Code1 { public static void main(String[] args) throws...

 
6:33 PM
How do I get them to continue horizontally, and expand the scroll bar?
 
@TylerChacha not with CSS. You need JS
 
really? so I have to go in and position them absolute and all that?
 
If each column were nested under the other, then as they became visible you could do something, but that would just be more awkward
@TylerChacha for what you're doing now, yes. How would you do it in a desktop app?
 
I don't know. I don't make desktop apps..
 
@TimStone see that url, i had gave that url
 
6:34 PM
:)
 
But like I said, alternately you could nest each of the ones to the right in the one to the left, matroyska style
 
@TylerChacha Oddly enough, it fits just fine in Chormium.
 
@GeorgeMarian did you keep expanding columns to the right?
 
@GeorgeMarian Then you haven't clicked far enough
 
ok, seriously, this is where I walk away for food ;)
 
6:36 PM
Ah, I see. There's more!
 
I think a sandwhich or two and some potato chips :D
 
@drachenstern Enjoy lunch!
 
@TylerChacha What's the width on the main container?
 
@GeorgeMarian 700px
 
6:36 PM
@GeorgeMarian The width was 500px
or 700
The idea is that it needs to be able to handle an inifinitely large JSON object
 
Yah, I see that now. (I can use my tools. Realy, I can....)
 
I'm just using the SO Data for sample data
 
Ok. You could try a container, within a container. The outer container would be 700px (or w/e limit you want to set) and would have the overflow-x: scroll. The inner container would be larger. However, You'd still need to adjust the width of the inner container or set something huge on it.
 
@YiJiang just suggested that in the Javascript room
 
In Chromium, that would work just fine. It will truncate. However, in FF you'd have a crazy wide container.
I have a similar issue on a site. It's effing annoying. So, I've stuck to using a table. =/
 
6:42 PM
Sweet it works
 
Dropbox is getting hit hard..
Did we just get a Chat Update?
 
:O
What if other dropbox users have this?
 
Not that I would trust anything sensitive to "the cloud."
 
So I now have a view so that people using 102 Storage can look at their JSON Data..
 
6:50 PM
That's the point I was trying to make...
 
It also gives me easier access to my JSON data..
 
@mootinator LOL fair enough
 
Not that I haven't accidentally saved client info into my public folder on dropbox once or twice. whistles.
 
I don't worry about it.. mainly because I don't have anything worth stealing..
 
6:54 PM
Just make sure you don't upload anything you wouldn't want anyone to know you have.
 
Don't copy that floppy.
Still the best video ever.
 
7:11 PM
\O/ Update is live. The artwork didn't come out as planned. meh...
 
@mootinator lol
 
@drachenstern There are perfect for listening to 16bit MP3s
 
^^ Why you remain seated with your seatbelt on while taxiing
 
7:35 PM
Anyone have a REALLY REALLY big and REALLY REALLY deep JSON Object?
 
I could make one simply
 
7:49 PM
@ircmaxell I was sure it had to do with loss of cabin pressure.
 
@Hogan trolling are you?
@ircmaxell I concur. Not a lot to do there eh? for 1 to 100 array add an object with names a to z and values 1 to 26 ... that'll give a nice breadth and depth on an object
Alternately, goto openstreetmap or bing maps and grab one of their map objects :p
 
@TimStone, you around?
 
@TylerChacha How big and how deep?
 
@drachenstern Exactly. A quick 30 second script should do ya
 
@PopularDemand probably not ... the eurotrashwannabe ... (ala he's not on skype)
 
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