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Phamhilator™ started.
 
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8:25 AM
14 hours ago, by Sam
When you do run pham, you need to make sure the chat windows have loaded fully before clicking the "start monitoring" button.
 
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Kind of embarrassing, but it seems I was stuck at "Loading page" every time I run it.
 
Sam
Same here (I get it all the time). Are you launching the debugger with Pham?
Or attaching at some point later?
 
Just ran the debugger since the beginning...
 
Sam
Right, well that's the problem.
Run Pham on its own, once the windows have loaded, then attach the debugger.
 
8:29 AM
Noted. Will try that later. Thanks :)
 
Sam
Np ;)
 
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Sam
@Pham why
 
@Sam Blacklisted term(s) found: 6](?s-m)^.{0,150}$
 
Sam
@Jan I've just figured out what's causing the bug with the length regexes.
 
8:38 AM
Tell us
 
Sam
Since Pham fails to get any data from the additional request (FSF)... the body of the question is therefore left empty, so...
I'll have to check if FSF, if so, skip QB and A checking. That should fix the bug.
Hiya @Uni
 
@Sam Hiya!
 
Sam
@Pham fp
 
Phamhilator™ stopped.
 
Sam
Fix applied.
 
8:48 AM
\o/
 
Sam
Still doesn't solve my connection issues though :/
 
Phamhilator™ started.
 
Sam
9:35 AM
Public Service Announcement: Pham is unfortunately out of action (due to poor internet connectivity) until further notice.
 
RIP Pham :(
 
Sam
It'll be a few weeks before I can guarantee decent uptime.
 
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@Sam I can run it, but it will have problems if I run it under my account, won't it?
 
Sam
9:39 AM
@JanDvorak Yeah, well I could just let you run it under the Pham account.
Lemme change the credentials...
 
Should I just run it from where it is?
 
Sam
Yes, don't move the exe anywhere.
 
launching...
 
Sam
:D
Gah, page still loading...
 
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9:42 AM
Program phamihilator stopped working
 
Sam
Do you have .net 4.5?
 
I hoped it would auto-update; let me
 
VS2013 and .NET 4.5 for metro support
maybe no need the VS though
 
Sam
It only requires .Net 4.5 to run. And the dlls, config files, and obviously the term libs.
Which should all (except .net) be included in the repo.
 
downloading .net
 
9:46 AM
Maybe add a guide to run it as a stand-alone app, or better, create a new Release?
 
according to the installer I do have .net 4.5 or newer already
 
anything error-message-y?
 
@JanDvorak Windows version?
 
Sam
Hmm.
 
9:47 AM
just a "stopped working" message
Win7
 
Sam
Hang on, I'll commit again...
 
SharpDevelop seems to run fine
 
Sam
Have you compiled it?
 
I've just launched the exe in the repository
 
I.. kind of remember that I need VS2013 (plugin? addon?) to run metro app in Win7
But of course I could be wrong
 
9:49 AM
is that a metro app???
 
Sam
No, just some styles I've applied.
Try compiling in debug mode and then launch the exe.
 
hold on...
couldn't find .net 4.5 SDK. Hold on...
Should I just install Visual Studio Express?
 
I did that.
Then try to open the solution after that. I think it will download additional required components
 
Registerware :-/
 
Sam
Sorry, internet again :/
 
10:05 AM
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Sam
Hmm, so what version do you actually have?
 
Me? Win7, VS2013 Express, .NET 4.5?
 
Sam
I mean @Jan
 
Currently installing VS 2013 Express
 
Sam
I've got Win7, .Net 4.5, VS 2012 Ultimate (with ReSharper) ;)
Anyways, I'll quickly build Pham again and commit/push.
 
10:11 AM
This post may help. I did choose "Express for Windows Desktop (Windows Programs) - Windows 7 SP1 (With IE 10)" if it helps
 
Stack Overflow has all the answers!
 
k.. this will take a while
 
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I feel that we should have a bot watching drupal exclusively, solely because drupal is the comb of all spam.
 
Drupham?
 
Sam
10:16 AM
Brb, debugging Pham...
 
well, gtg
cya later
 
Cya!
 
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Sam
11:12 AM
Kinda went afk as well.
 
VS 2013 still installing :-(
 
Sam
Yeah, that's why I don't bother upgrading VS.
 
Applying: Windows XP targeting with C++
 
Sam
Still debugging Pham...
Ah, found the a bug.
 
Have you found the QB bug?
 
Sam
11:21 AM
You mean this one?
 
I mean the one where it treated some questions as answers
 
Sam
Oh, right. Yeah I fixed that a few days ago.
 
What was #21 caused by?
 
Sam
3 hours ago, by Sam
Since Pham fails to get any data from the additional request (FSF)... the body of the question is therefore left empty, so...
 
internal miscommunication
 
Sam
11:25 AM
Yep, it's fixed now, although, I haven't committed yet.
I'm also in the process of refactoring all the file IO methods.
 
@Sam There's a thing in github that lets you close with commits if you have closes #\d as part of commit message, I think.
2
 
Sam
Cool, I'll open it again and try it out.
There, lets see if that worked...
Yep :D
 
that also includes references #\d ...
alternatively fixes #\d also works.
 
And reopens, etc..
Well, there's a manual. ;)
 
somewhere...
 
Sam
11:35 AM
Thx, I'll have to remember that.
 
2 hours ago, by Sam
Public Service Announcement: Pham is unfortunately out of action (due to poor internet connectivity) until further notice.
 
Hey @Andy
 
RIP
hiya @Andy
 
Hey
 
somewhere... over the rainbow...
 
Sam
11:35 AM
@Unihedron RIP (for a couple of weeks)
Hiya Andy
 
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VS2013 installer almost done
 
Sam
\o/
 
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Sam
Wb @AndrewT.
 
Hiya @Sam
I'm trying the Pham.exe... and it works. So I think there's something that is needed from VS2013 (or 2012 Ultimate, not sure)
 
Sam
12:11 PM
Did you sync (the repo)?
 
Yes, just now, probably that fixed something too
 
Sam
Kk. @Jan Have you sync'd and tried out Pham?
 
still not done installing VS :-/
 
Sam
IMO you shouldn't need VS to run pham.
 
Whether that's correct is a whole different issue, though..
 
Sam
12:14 PM
Indeed.
 
What CPU did you compile for?
 
Sam
Erm, lemme check...
 
SharpDev screams it me it's for MSIL while I have x86
 
I... uhh.. cannot close Pham.exe with X button?
 
@AndrewT. shoot it down with taskmanager, then...
 
Sam
12:16 PM
@JanDvorak 32-bit
 
x86?
 
Sam
I believe so.
I'll try another build option...
Oh wait. Sorry, 32-bit, any CPU.
 
should I retry?
 
Sam
@AndrewT. Yeah, I'm aware of it (it's a bug).
@JanDvorak If you've sync'd, sure.
 
as in, git pull?
 
12:21 PM
@JanDvorak yes, even though I'd personally prefer git fetch; git merge FETCH_HEAD
 
Sam
Yeah. I guess you're not using GitHub's GUI.
 
I have no local changes
sunc, running
same problem: I double click the file; for a while nothing happens, then a generic error message appears
 
Hmm... try opening the solution (.sln) file first?
 
Sam
Hmm...
 
do you need 1024*768+?
@AndrewT. sharpdev complains, vs isn't done installing
 
Sam
12:27 PM
@JanDvorak Huh?
 
@Sam screen resolutioon
I have 1024*600
 
Sam
Oh, right.
I'll check...
Do you know if you can run WPF apps?
 
how do I tell?
 
Why should that be an issue?
 
Sam
12:30 PM
Because Pham's GUI uses wpf.
 
I mean, why should some computers have trouble running wpf?
my WPF version is 3.0.6920.5011
 
There shouldn't be. As long as the .NET framework version supports WPF, it's all fine.
 
It crashes without showing any GUI
 
Sam
Hmm, same version as me.
 
should I connect a bigger screen and retry?
 
Sam
12:37 PM
Well, Pham's default window size is 1200x700, so that might help.
I'll compile one with a smaller size...
 
thanks
 
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12:50 PM
@Sam: Could I participate in your Github project?
 
Sam
@PatrickHofman Of course! :)
 
@Sam Committing doesn't work now ;) My Github name is PatrickHofman, not sure if you need it.
 
@PatrickHofman that's normal. You should fork the repository, commit your changes to your own copy and then create a pull request
 
Sam
Probably because you have to be a collaborator to commit, otherwise you have to fort + pull request.
Beat me to it, again.
 
Not used to Github, only to SVN.
 
12:54 PM
shakes head
 
Sam
Do you know C#?
 
Come on, we used to be on CVS. For real :S
 
begins to shudder uncontrollably
 
@Sam That's like java, right ;)
 
@PatrickHofman somewhat ... but no
 
Sam
12:55 PM
:O
 
Sam
Nice
 
Want to have one of those?
 
Sam
Ok, I can trust you won't mess up the repo ;)
 
Nope. Yeah, I promise. If you don't want to, I will do the pull thingy.
 
Sam
12:57 PM
@PatrickHofman Personally, I'm not fussed.
 
sees whitespace merge conflicts on the horizon
 
Kay, now when I open Pham.exe, I can see the chat windows, but when I click "Start monitoring", it crashes.
 
Sam
I'll add ya to the collab list...
 
I could run Pham from VS though...
 
@Vogel612'sShadow Care to explain why? I know this gave a lot of issues when running CVS, but not with SVN.
 
Sam
12:58 PM
@AndrewT. Do you know C#?
 
@Sam Thanks.
 
@PatrickHofman git can get damn confusing with whitespace merges...
and it's only getting worse with xml and the like
that being said, the more guys there are on a project, the more likely it becomes..
 
@Vogel612'sShadow How can you prevent that?
 
@Sam Mainly a Java user. Learnt C# a bit though
oops, wrong ping
 
Sam
D'you think you'll be able to debug it?
 
1:00 PM
Prevent? By having a common styleconvention concerning newlines and linewidth
 
Sam
@PatrickHofman Np, you're added ;)
 
and before commiting run a Ctrl (AKF) on everything
 
@Sam I'm trying to debug it, but not sure about the result :|
 
Sam
@AndrewT. If you show me the exception I'll probably be able to help.
 
wait... I just remembered about manually attaching the debugger
 
1:03 PM
@Sam: Check. First commit.
 
Sam
Checking now....
 
HTMLScraper.cs -->
GetLastChatMessage -->
var message = WebUtility.HtmlDecode(html.Substring(startIndex, html.IndexOf("</DIV>", startIndex, StringComparison.Ordinal) - startIndex));
System.ArgumentOutOfRangeException - Length cannot be less than zero.
 
Sam
Ah.
@PatrickHofman Looks fine. Thx.
 
@Sam Np
 
Sam
@AndrewT. Do you have any "abnormal" IE settings?
 
1:12 PM
@Sam I'm.. not very sure about this since I almost never touches it. goes checking
 
Sam
Kk
 
Urk... IE...
 
Sam
It's unfortunately what .Net's webbrowser element is based on :/
 
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A laser cannon strapped to a Donkey indeed..
 
Sam
1:18 PM
sits here still trying to get Pham's window resizable
 
@Sam can you just convert to websockets + post?
 
Sam
Auth is a problem though.
 
accept an fkey through an argument, will that work?
 
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Sam
I'm not sure. (I don't have a great deal of experience with network stuff.)
 
1:23 PM
@Sam ?
 
Sam
@Frank ?
jk
 
:)
 
Sam
Most of the programs I've written have been to do with DSP, not network.
 
@Sam Something like this?
 
Sam
Yeah.
 
1:38 PM
@Sam Do you want me to commit?
 
Sam
Yes pls. I guess you used a grid?
 
@Sam Check
Yes, and a stackpanel
 
Sam
Ah, I tried using a dockpanel :/
Looks fine, thx.
 
Welcome. Going back to work now ;)
 
Sam
Ok :)
@Jan How's VS doing?
 
1:49 PM
installed
 
Sam
K, well I've fixed the close bug @AndrewT. was talking about, so you may wanna pull.
And thanks to patrick the window is resizable, so you shouldn't have any res issues.
 
> Can't write to the registry. Try running with the admin mode on
:-/
Where are you trying to write?
 
Sam
To switch the embedded IE control from IE 7 to 9.
I'll check where exactly...
 
ok... let me try allowing it to
You shouldn't need any special privileges, though
 
1:57 PM
Any idea @Sam why the chat windows are 'loading' when I start Pham? It never gets opened. There are two script warnings though...
 
It didn't complain this time, but the web view is still ugly
still loading for me, too
 
@JanDvorak: On what IE version are you?
11?
 
n the web view, or normally?
 
normally
 
Sam
5 hours ago, by Sam
Run Pham on its own, once the windows have loaded, then attach the debugger.
 
1:58 PM
Why is the windows media player welcoming me???
@Sam I'm not running a debugger
IE11 or so; let me recheck
 
Me too. It indeed works when debugger is detached.
 
Sam
Just try refreshing (right click, "Refresh").
 

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