~ The Wizard of Oz

!!poo

~ 💩 💩

@Zoe Um, what?

@Zoe Still what?

@Mithical @Zoe I still wonder why this room's never been frozen? P.S. I know @KennyBOT was just joking/kidding, but has this room ever been frozen? X-D

I'm pretending to be @Feeds!

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

@sha @Vic I could actually see if @VosMottor'sBot is male or female when @Vickid brings it back again X-D

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am female!

>>cat What?

@TechExpertWizard What?

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

@sha @Vic I was just about to think that @ProgramFOX may have hardwired the female choice into FOX's code X-D

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

~ 💩 💩 💩

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am female!

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am female!

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

@sha @Vic This thing is simply random.

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male male male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male male male female}}!

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male male male female}}!

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

!!poo

>>cat I am {{randomchoice male male male female}}!

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

@TechExpertWizard I am male!

@ShadowtheHatterWizard And just in case you think that there needs to be a bit of poop in there, I'm going to make @KennyBOT poo again and star that X-D

!!poo

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

Actually, I didn't know that @Hans came back for 4 more messages after his kick X-D :(

@sha That was after his kick.

~ Where is everybody!?!

~ Can't we be a bit moar talkative?

Hello Guys

whoa, so many pings! basking in @TechExpertWizard's pings

@Tech what you did today?

What did you eat for breakfast? @Tech

@Handyman hello!

@Hand do you need a hand? (aka need any help with something? :))

Hey, we have two @Han in here now. :D

@TechExpertWizard good, having combination of female, poop, and male, while male is dominant, is good mix. @Hans1984 should be happy. :P

@TechExpertWizard @VosMottor'sBot is most like gender-less. :D

[status-💩]

:(

@TechExpertWizard good find, you're good in searching! Now go find my needle in haystack. ;)

@Zoethe1337Princess well, words can't be bad by themselves, but let's take a "less bad" word for example: penis. Why is it bad? Because it makes people think of something they shouldn't think about. Sure, we all have sex organs and most here are adults, but even so, some people also have basic beliefs and part of those can include "You should not let your mind wander into those areas". Hard to explain, especially when I'm totally not there - just knowing it exist.

That was long.... lol.... /cc @Tech of course ^

So I'll use bad words as usual, just not directly with @Tech as he's not comfortable with this. :)

It's like @Mith isn't comfortable with talking about toilets - which is fine. :P

@Zoethe1337Princess nope, "shit" is used on purpose to describe the poop in a "bad" way, like a swear. Like the difference between "fuck" and "sex" - both describe same action, in a different way of speech.

Now let's wash this all...

!!pee

~ Open the floodgates ....

@TechExpertWizard +1

@Tech how many pings?

You love the pings? @Tech

!!feed ping for @Tech

~ I bloody hope ping for @Tech is edible ...

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

@Zoethe1337Princess oh... I see now. Well, @Tech is religious, hence he considers some words as bad. :)

You're not religious, and it's fine. ;)

@Zoethe1337Princess exactly. Looks like for people in India it rhymes.

Let's try to bring some from the dead depths of transcript....

@DroidDev do the words "penis" and "venus" rhyme for you? :D

U has a bit of an e/i-sound there IIRC

@berserk do the words "penis" and "venus" rhyme for you? :D

Yeah, e-ish

@Zoethe1337Princess ohhhh

No associated word found for ohhhh.

So weird, lol.

@ShadowtheHatterWizard I know, but there's still no logical reason why

@Zoethe1337Princess there's no logic in religion... :)

Not that religions are known for their logic, but even religions adapt to the society

But to be honest, I do see logic. Religion can force you to not perform actions related to sex. The body might be tempted for such actions, so better not rise any such temptations.

By that logic, all words related to sex should be bad

Now there is no logic why the religion won't let you perform actions related to sex, but that's a much bigger issue.

It's also being adapted out

@Zoethe1337Princess hmm.... perhaps they are? @Tech are there words related to sex which are not "bad" for you?

Sex, fornicate, reproduce, intercourse

It's largely just fuck that's bad because it is

@Zoethe1337Princess huh! Didn't know what is "fornicate". Until now. Thanks! :D

Also coitus and procreation

Well, of those "reproduce" can't be bad, it's not about sex, directly.

Oh yeah, that's more the baby bit

@Zoethe1337Princess ?

@Zoe different approach.... think of the words you were exposed to as a kid. You heard words like "shit" and "fuck" often?

You need to have sex to make babies, but having sex doesn't imply pregnancy

@Zoethe1337Princess true, but what about it?

So procreation and reproduction fall out of the list

@Zoethe1337Princess oh

@ShadowtheHatterWizard uh (?)

@FOX9000 eh

@ShadowtheHatterWizard bugs (?)

Procreation might still be on the list, but it looks like it's mostly used to describe replication rather than the sex itself

Tangent tho: there's a whole bunch of ways to describe the exact same thing, but only one or two of those are considered bad because someone decided it was for no reason :')

GradeAunderA also happens to have a video on swearing, though with a significantly less formal argument style

@Zoethe1337Princess Grade who?

@Zoethe1337Princess true. "Making love" might be OK, while "Making sex" not.

He's a youtuber. Pretty fun content, mostly ^^"

!!make love

~ What are you talking about?

@KennyBOT come on, you know!

Lmao, randomly reminds me...

So if @KennyBOT and @FOX9000 will... do it.... how their offspring will be called? @Kenny9000 or @KennyFOX?

😂

God damn Firefox for Android, fix your HTML processor xd

@Zoethe1337Princess aren't Java extension ".jar"? lol

You know what, can't do this. Gonna go nuts if I have to keep using this garbage. Gonna go shower, eat, and get back when I'm on my computer

@ShadowtheHatterWizard there's also web archives, or war for short

@Zoethe1337Princess have fun! Don't waste too much water! :D

^^"

@Zoethe1337Princess oh, didn't know. Thanks!

During winter I shower only once per two days, so making it double the time, it's fun to be under hot water. :)

~ I'm a little bit lonely...

@ShadowtheHatterWizard I generally shower once per 2-4 days. I basically let my hair tell me when it's time ^^"

Firefox for mobile really bugs me tho xd

A couple years ago, it used to hide the input box on chat.SO/SE/M.SE when I typed. Made it a pain to do anything on mobile

There were a few other similar bugs (though not with a chatbox) on other sites. One day, it was fixed. Probably an engine patch

Then FF released Fenix or whatever and basically reverted the progress xd

Also some times crashes when I go back into it, for no reason xd

@Zoethe1337Princess well, for me it's the armpits... even in cool weather they somehow sweat and even though deodorant cover the smell, it's the feeling that makes me need to shower.

@Zoethe1337Princess I never liked Firefox.... tried it few times, every time it was just.... horrible. Why don't you use Chrome? All the talks about privacy are bullshit, IMO. ALL major browsers don't respect privacy, at all. I'm sure of that.

firefox is still the lesser evil

meh

Also lets me use whatever plugins I want without deciding to randomly censor them

eh, that's valid point.

Also, FF is the only mobile browser with plugin support, which means I can adblock on my phone as well

No plugins for me, so not relevant for me, but can see how it is for you.

I have several :')

I also LOVE firefox containers

Whatever floats your boat plugin.... ;)

addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/multi-account-containers

^^

So, "Fenix" does rhyme with "Penis"? @Zoe :P

Nope ^^"

How? I say it "Fe-ni-x" and "Pe-ni-s"

And both "ni" sounds the same.

Rhyming is largely based on the end though

... AFAIK

Oh..... think the correct pronounce is "Pi-ne-s".... is this right? @Zoe

I say it like it's written, which may have the i sounding a bit like an e, but iDunno

I never use it, but remember hearing it several times.

And finally it should work again!

!!SHU

~ No, @Shadow Wizard is Vaccinating that only works on NOVELL NETWARE

@Tech ^

What?

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating What about our username pair?

!!SHU

!!poo

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!!SHU

!!poo

~ 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩 💩

!!help

@SonictheCuriouserHedgehog sorry, I probably can't change back on MSE now. Wanted to change on all sites.

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating But @Hans is already gone :)

Nope

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating What?

@Zoe I mean he ain't in here anymore after that incident :)

It's combo of two things: I noticed many people are against the vaccine which annoys me, and I quit winter bash, so "Hatter Wizard" seemed less relevant for me, though I would keep it for your sake, if not for the first reason. @Sonic

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Just ping a mod in the Tavern, state that you wanted to change your name on all sites except Meta but it got changed on Meta by mistake. Mods can change your name here, and they're generally OK with doing so as long as you're not gaming the system

@Zoe At least I guess I was probably sleepin' if he came in :) My time zone is Eastern Time (ET), and even if I ain't sleepin' when he came in, I was busy workin'.

That doesn't stop Hans from coming back, especially when he's pinged

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Oh, you quit WB. Okay.

@Zoe Oh, I understand.

@Sonic @sha I'd take the vaccine if it has been proved to be safe and will not cause a headache (as it currently does for most people in the clinical trials) 'cause I don't like headaches. I'm already getting a headache thinking about headaches :)

!!cat

~ looking for cats ...

And the vaccine hasn't really been proven to work. They're basically doing dev on prod to test whether it actually works.

@Shadow Wait, why quit WB?

@Sonic What's WB?

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

@TechExpertWizard Winter Bash

@Zoe And that's why I'm going to wait at least 3 months after the general public is allowed to get the vaccine :)

@TechExpertWizard it's not for your sake. Imagine you are infected in COVID19 without knowing it, you meet with someone who is in risk (e.g. 80 y/o person) and that other person get sick and get into very tough position, maybe even death. Without vaccine you can say it's not your fault, and it's not as you didn't know you're infected, but if you could take the vaccine and you didn't, it's on you.

I'll gladly have headache if it means saving lives.

@Sonic I love the WB hats, but I don't want to play the Hat Dash game, since it's for children. The Google Dinosaur game is also for children, 'cause my 10-year-old son is playing it :)

Heck, I'd risk much more serious damage.

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Yep, I'd rather have a headache than have lots more people die of COVID-19, since you might not be put into jail for not taking the vaccine and infecting someone else 'cause you got infected, but it's still your responsibility; I mean, you just feel it's your responsibility and that you could've taken the vaccine and those people wouldn't have died :(

@TechExpertWizard Except it's being pushed to old people first instead

@TechExpertWizard exactly. And the vaccine is working, it's already been proven enough. IMO.

AKA the people most likely to die if something goes wrong are put at risk first. It's so paradoxical it's kinda hilarious

@Zoethe1337Princess what's the alternative? Wait few years to see if it works, and let hundreds of thousands die? Even if some people will die as result of side effects from the vaccine.... no way it would be more than the people dying from the virus itself.

It's twisted, but... that's what it is.

People are going to die either way though. Not acknowledging that is, in turn, going to cause deaths that could've been avoided

It's all about numbers.

Also, keep in mind that there's probably gonna be a lot more deaths in countries that can't afford the vaccine

@sha @Zoe @Sonic I don't know, but you just can't let that much people die, or you could try stopping the entire economic system, and then people would die 'cause they ain't have any money :(

@Zoethe1337Princess sure, and that's unfair.

Africa is already struggling, and have asked for the patent to be temporarily waived to stop the crisis

@sha @Zoe @Sonic And that's why governments hate to impose lockdowns :(

@Zoethe1337Princess Yeah, and that's not fair for Africa :(

But no, the vaccine companies want money instead. The whole world is united until the vaccine is released, at which point it's every country to itself. How many deaths does that cause?

Vaccine isn't a cure though, it won't stop a wave while it's ongoing.

In addition to direct deaths, no one mentions indirect deaths

How many people are gonna die from the economic fallout rather than covid?

@Zoethe1337Princess it's jungle rules: the strong survives. And "strong" isn't measured by force, but politics, in that case, which sucks even more.

it isn't even politics. It's a screwed, "we have to save everyone" until there's a way to save everyone, at which point it's "we have to save ourselves"

@Zoethe1337Princess many, maybe even more than the COVID19 direct victims, but that got nothing to do with vaccine.

@Zoe Yeah, the vaccine companies didn't ever really want to help anyone, they just want to get money, which they want really much :( So most wealthy countries, such as Canada and the United States have given them money to make sure that they get the amount of vaccines that they want, and they get more vaccines then they'll ever even need. The good news is that some countries, including Canada and not including the US, have participated in a WHO program to give Africa

@Zoe vaccine doses that they don't need :)

@Zoethe1337Princess @sha That's what I was saying.

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating It does, though.

Actually, no. It doesn't

It's the entire process, not just the vaccine

@Zoe Yes, people get to make the decision of whether they want to save themselves and others by taking the vaccine (and possibly getting a headache, lol) or not taking the vaccine and not saving themselves and others (and not getting a headache, lol again)

@Zoethe1337Princess when enough people will be immune, there won't be any more need for lockdowns, and economy will be able to start a slow and painful recovery.

The economic fallout could've been avoided or at least reduced by handling stuff by doing it logically rather than in a hurry to be the first to respond and to show the world how to do it properly

@Zoethe1337Princess no doubt

Of course doesn't help that the leaders of a few countries have been working against the process every step of the way, but we'll likely see more damage from the economic fallout than from covid.

Countries in a financially bad situation might end up being in a worse one

@Zoethe1337Princess did it affect your family personally? (e.g. parents losing their job)

My mom's a teacher, which is a pretty secure position. No idea what my dad's up to, haven't seen him in almost two years

@Tech better not to try and understand Rob too hard: you'll end up stuck in a loop.

@Zoe Yes, everyone should've done like what China did. I know China did it like that 'cause the outbreak started in China, but they locked down very fast and in the entire course of the outbreak, Beijing only had 587 cases, and I'm saying, total cases. If you don't believe it, look at this.

People in my country in general aren't really my concern though. We have welfare systems to take care of them

Not all countries have that luxury

@Zoe Do you mean government-paid health care, like in Canada?

And even then, there's still people struggling financially, but in countries with no welfare systems?

They're pretty screwed

And what do people do when they're forced into a really bad situation where a large majority feels the government is to blame?

@Zoe I don't know exactly what you mean when you say "welfare system."

They riot, and consider overthrowing the government

@TechExpertWizard partially, but mainly systems that get people without work money so they don't, well, lose everything. It's relatively little, though, so it's not optimal for a long-term situation, but it helps enough in the short term

@TechExpertWizard Except there's a lot of rumors saying the chinese government isn't reporting all the numbers

@Zoe Yes, yes, there are those kinds of rumors, and I've heard them.

Which I actually believe. The optimal way to stop it would've been to stop it before it spread, though. unfortunately, we're 11 months too late for that

@Zoe Yeah, if those people in the Wuhan market didn't eat bat soup (that's really bad, eating any meat is bad from the Buddhist perspective) then this wouldn't have happened.

Not what I mean

@TechExpertWizard it would, in other way

The virus might've found its way to people one way or another

And good chance it wasn't soup, but accident in a laboratory, that started all of this.

What I do mean, however, is trying to stop the spread. Lock down the first city, stop travel to and from China. Use transport systems that lets the drivers quarantine after running a delivery

that would've stopped it, or at least slowed it down so significantly we wouldn't be looking at...

@Zoe Yes, they kinda did it but it took them, if I remember correctly, about a month to start doin' it. But you really can't blame them too much; it's not China or Wuhan's fault that COVID-19 appeared, it's those meat-eaters in the Wuhan market's fault X-D

80 million cases

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating It's not genetically engineered, and that has been proven several times

@Zoethe1337Princess we'll see in few years

@Zoe @sha Wasn't everyone sayin' that it was bat soup in Wuhan?

@TechExpertWizard No, that's also wrong

It started because someone ate a bat that contained the virus, but there's half a billion ways those balls of DNA/RNA can spread

China is evil, I said that long ago.... and won't be surprised a tiny bit even if they did it all on purpose. (their leaders, of course! The citizens are just sheep)

If not eating a bat, it could've been caused by accidental contact, it could've spread through other animals or even to farms.

@sha I'll never believe these strange conspiracy theories that you guys seem to be dedicated too.

@sha And please stop insulting the Chinese people; my parents came to here from China.

@TechExpertWizard see edit.

I agree with that first bit, but they didn't do it on purpose. waiting a few years in either direction won't help, because it was actually caused naturally

@sha What? You just combined the second message with the first message, basically.

There's also long explanations of how it evolved (TL;DR: bat immune systems are better than human immune systems, virus enters bat, virus grows strong, bat still resists, virus meets weak human immune system, starts to spread)

@TechExpertWizard well, yes. I don't like the actions done by China, and don't trust China even a bit. I have no problems with their citizens. @Tech

@ShadowWizardisVaccinating Of course no ;) It can't 'cause it is not native js it is interpreted in python.

@Zoe Yes, this bat theory is the correct one.

@sha What?

vsb alive

Ya really doubt me huh?

vsb js log(room.get_current_user_names())

vsb py print(room.get_current_user_names())

error.

China does a lot of bad stuff, or rather, the government specifically does. Including suppressing basic human rights

@Zoe I know it's communist, and it doesn't allow freedom of speech or whatever kind of stuff, but it ain't that bad as you and @sha are trying to say :(

They also made some "reeducation" camps, which really are just concentration camps with a name that doesn't have as bad connections

It has nothing to do with communism, though

Communism itself doesn't exclude democracy and freedom

Communism is an economic model - so is capitalism

@Zoe I guess you're talking about the Xinjiang tribes or whatever who were Muslim but they tried to make them be like the other Chinsee people.

@Zoe Yes, I know that.

Democracy is a form of government - communism and capitalism aren't

@Zoe Yes, I know that.

It's perfectly possible to have a communist democracy, but they don't do that because humans still like power. There's also very few ways to protect against corruption in current communist forms of government, which doesn't make stuff better

@Zoe Corruption is way too common in communist/socialist governments, and I know that also.