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@QueenieGoldstein I'm not sure that falls under plagiarism, but I know that it's not... looked well upon.

what do you mean?

Isnt it unfair that someone will have a large ratio of rejected edits in their profie

even if they were sincere

In most cases, it's typically a one-time incident. If an OP (or a >2k reviewer) repeatedly abuses Reject or Reject and Edit just to deny a lower-rep user some reputation for their suggested edit (and basically edits in what they suggested anyway) it can be flagged for moderator attention.

@Spevacus I have flagged four :)

I can flag 10 more, but am afraid that if they get rejected i can be flag suspended

Could you give me an example post where this occured? Include the rejected edit review if you could.

so i have requested custom response

lemme

Take your time ;D

@QueenieGoldstein You're good to go.

Typically(always soo far) the rejects by the user are followed by community

which i find very unusual

Ah, so in this instance, the reviewer chose Reject and Edit, which invokes the Community user to also reject it, and then lets the rejector edit the post inline.

The Community user also rejecting it essentially just forces that edit to be rejected so that the rejector can apply the changes they wanted.

The same goes for Improve Edit. The community user will also Approve the edit, which then lets the reviewer apply their edits on top of that suggested edit.

But, as far as whether this was a good choice for that particular reviewer or not...

Ohh, I understood the community one.

Well, in this case, the reviewer probably should have approved your edit. But that reviewer is not the same user who applied your edit anyway, that was someone else.

that's not my account

Oh, is this you? I just assumed it was your suggested edit.

I pulled a SEDE query against it

Hah, sorry.

It's okay, i just wanted proof that it was not targetted for any reason

Anyway, yeah this is an edit that probably should have been approved. But, I'd like to assume that it wasn't done with malice.

If there's a long history of this particular user using Reject and Edit to run over users suggested edits, that'd be something to bring up in a flag.

I have flagged it, i'll see how moderators respond

the oldest flag is 24hr+

I did 3 more within this hour

That particular site gets a lot of traffic and is rather heavily moderated, I think, so it might be a bit before someone gets to it.

Plus it's not like it's an easy one to investigate. Probably takes a bit of digging to see if there's any pointed targeting by that reviewer, etc. etc.

Yep perhaps more digging so I have added direct links so that it's easier to investigate

So... Is it a no-no? Not if it happens once in a blue moon. If there's a pattern, it's worth looking into.

I like the moderation team there though

accept to reject^

Mmm. WAFFLES

Oooo

Well, I mean, waffles.

I suppose before someone figures out, should i delete obvious ones

But, anyway, that's a fair ratio.

In my opinion.

On Meta SE, I personally have 89 approvals, 40 rejections, and 10 improvements

In the suggested edits queue

I think a 2:1 ratio is pretty acceptable

It's mostly not about rejecting for bad edits

it's about plagiarism and...(I dont have the word for it) but i mean an unfair act

It's abuse, in a way. I understand that.

10774-----761

another user^

accept---reject

Users have received reprimands for such a thing before, I'm sure. Abusing Improve/Reject-and-Edit to override the review process isn't looked upon very well.

@Spevacus Also, can community user reject an edit if a person has approved one?

@QueenieGoldstein I think I get what you mean... and I'm pretty sure that's a yes.

math.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/214943

How?

conflicting with edit?

Mhmm. You can um

but usually community gives a reason right?

Yeah, this was before Community was given the "Conflicted with a subsequent edit" reason.

ohhh

I think it's sorted for now, thanks for the help, I'll update upon progress

No problem!

As a side note

Users can override an existing suggested edit without reviewing it by opening up the direct edit link to that post (which would yield the "Conflicted with a subsequent edit" rejection from Community). It's sometimes used to unilaterally reject bad edits that a reviewer accidentally approved, or just want to full-on reject without using Reject and Edit.

It's a bit neat, but shouldn't be used often.

Does that mean I should look for those type as well where the markdown was copy pasted without actually rejecting?

I would say that depends on the timestamp.

I skipped a few rejections because they were only community

without reviewing the final reviewer

If the rejection came in within a reasonable time of the suggested edit being posted, then I'm sure it was a >2k user or the OP acting in good faith just trying to tidy up their post. The suggested editor in this case is just unlucky; their edit was the one the OP/>2k user wanted to do anyway.

If there's a pretty darn long window between them, then I suppose that would indicate that, either the person who overrided it was a really slow editor, or they manually juked the review process.

I see

If you're doing an SEDE query to try and find review abuse (which I think is cool but maybe a bit overboard) then I'd just look for high reject counts.

oops

There are a fair few users on SO specifically that I'm aware use the Reject button more than they should.

@Spevacus there's no premade query

Heh. Unexpected T Swift ;D

I have to write SQL which i do not remember well

I'm also pretty bad at SQL :(

And another thing is I do not know the name of tables

i.e. FROM stackexchange SELECT reject

Mhmm

So it's possible that even if I write one, it will be less optimized and may timeout

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