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In Starcraft 2 competitive online games you get placed in a league and are ranked against approximately 100 other people of your skill level. For the different skill levels there are bronze, silver, gold, platinum and diamond leagues, but each of these levels is divided into several "divisions" ...

Grace Note

Isn't that a dupe? I'm lost between all of the division/league questions.

Gaming

12:40 AM

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Q: Wii won't turn on

Hi I am trying to figure out why my Wii won't turn on. It normally works fine but I went to turn it on to watch netflix today and it won't power on. I thought it might be the usual power-went-out-so-the-wii-needs-to-be-unplugged, but I unplugged it and plugged it back in after a few minutes a...

wii

Grace Note

1:00 AM

Hmm

tzenes

@GraceNote sadly no, I thought so too, but it was a different question

Grace Note

Ahm

tzenes

though I did link the two questions

Grace Note

I see

tzenes

is there a good way to do related?

Grace Note

1:09 AM

Just link it, that's the best way

"Some related division/league questions are: ein zwei drei"

tzenes

yeah

anyway, in answer to your earlier comment, you could share information about games you play

ones you liked/didn't and why

and interesting things in gaming

Grace Note

Most of those reasons are either uninteresting or repulsing

tzenes

ok, now I'm curious, are the games you play repulsing or the reasonings you like them repulsing?

Grace Note

When the reason is along the lines of "I bought it because I can continue to use IWBTG as a lower bound for difficulty", I think that will repulse most readers

alexanderpas

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Q: Wii won't turn on [closed]

Hi I am trying to figure out why my Wii won't turn on. It normally works fine but I went to turn it on to watch netflix today and it won't power on. I thought it might be the usual power-went-out-so-the-wii-needs-to-be-unplugged, but I unplugged it and plugged it back in after a few minutes a...

wii

Grace Note

1:14 AM

The other reasons tend to be one of "A friend recommended me it", "It was a sequel to a game I liked", "I really love the costume design", and "I thought it might be a good idea". All of which tend to be rather uninteresting

tzenes

so you like games because of the recommendation? and not because of the game?

alexanderpas

that is what i call jury rigging closing.

Grace Note

Oh, hey, I misread your suggestion

tzenes

hahaha

he put [closed] at the end of his title

that's hilarious

Grace Note

Should I just delete it? As per my Meta question?

alexanderpas

1:15 AM

that question should be deleted.

just look at it...

Grace Note

SENT TO THE DEPTHS OF NAUGHTINGNESS!

tzenes

haha

yeah, that's special

alexanderpas

"Edit2: Fixed it."

tzenes

too bad you didn't close it first

Grace Note

So, yeah, reasons that I like games that I am playing, not reasons why I became interested in trying out a game...

tzenes

1:17 AM

it would have been [closed] [closed]

alexanderpas

Grace, close it.

Grace Note

I'll leave it that way to trip up any 10k who run into it

Can't close it while it's deleted. Too lazy to undelete.

alexanderpas

lol

Grace Note

Okay. Ninja, Zodiac, or Hoplite?

tzenes

Hoplite

alexanderpas

1:19 AM

"Okay. Pirate, Zodiac, or Hoplite?" <- fixed.

tzenes

why won't this one die: gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4717

Grace Note

There's a Buccaneer class, actually

I could have both a Ninja AND a Pirate on the same guild

But I don't want my Guild Leader to be a pirate.

Even if technically that most closely matches the predecessor

alexanderpas

@grace, make that last vote for gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/4717

Grace Note

So 1 vote Hoplite.

tzenes

hey, is EO3 any good?

alexanderpas

1:21 AM

Ninja XOR Pirate.

Grace Note

I don't know. It won't arrive for a few weeks

But it looks good, and I loved the previous 2

tzenes

I've heard good buzz

Grace Note

Imagination exercise to the max. The Gunner guild leader I used in EO2 is actually formerly the Medic guild leader I used in EO1 (what with it being the same guild, anyway)

But since there's no class persistence from EO2 to EO3, I can't pull the same trick off. Also, none of the classes are particularly to Semi's taste, so it looks like it's time for a new guild in town.

tzenes

The phallanx class looks cool

Grace Note

That'd be the Hoplite in the US version, aye

I could actually see Semi being a Hoplite, even though that's more the role that her friend would do

Always joins the guild in the post-game, always a Protector...

Sees her off at the start of both games, though

FallenAngelEyes

1:25 AM

EO3?

Grace Note

Etrian Odyssey 3

tzenes

Etrian Odyssey

FallenAngelEyes

Aaah, not played those

tzenes

see you could probably write a good article about that game and why its interesting

Grace Note

If you're into BONECRUNCHING PAIN and awesome imagination, then I suggest you try it out

FallenAngelEyes

1:27 AM

Haha, what kind of bonecrunching pain?

Grace Note

High difficulty. You should basically be prepared for game over if it's your first time

FallenAngelEyes

Ah. Well I am also in the process of playing Demon's Souls, so yeah...

Grace Note

My experience in EO1 was game over about 6 times in the first ten floors, then smooth sailing until the end-game that I got some measure of ruin, and "fun" ensued for the post-game

alexanderpas

like dying in nethack after 26 steps?

Grace Note

DF-style "fun"

FallenAngelEyes

1:29 AM

Ah, also published by Atlus

Raven Dreamer

Hello folks. Any dwarf-fortress-ers in here? Got a quick question.

Grace Note

It's not so much unforgiving

More that if you walk in unexpected, you will get trampled

Oh, and Dinolich.

Almost as horrifying a name to see in battle as "Tyrannosatan"

alexanderpas

@RavenDreamer always, altrough the site might also be a good place if it is a serious question needing a definitive answer.

Raven Dreamer

Well yeah, but it should be very simple:

I got an arctic embark, and I'm trying to get liquid water, but my ocean-based screwpump churns out blocks of ice! Is this fixable?

tzenes

only in the summer

Raven Dreamer

1:31 AM

It was the summer.

:/

alexanderpas

heat it up.

tzenes

then its too cold

alexanderpas

but it is a perfect question for the site.

Raven Dreamer

I was afraid of that.

tzenes

ice determined directly from temperature

asking how to get liquid water is a better question

Raven Dreamer

1:32 AM

If I put a roof on my cistern, will that raise the temperature?

tzenes

I think temp is decided by inside/outside, and once a tile is outside its perminate

Raven Dreamer

You're thinking "aboveground" / "belowground"

I think?

alexanderpas

really, ask it on the site, and help others having the same problem.

Raven Dreamer

Just might do that.

Thanks y'all.

alexanderpas

the site is more permanent than chat...

Grace Note

1:35 AM

Chat's for when you have subjective or discussive questions

Like when I asked about Resonance of Fate (to wit, I technically didn't get a rec out of that but ended up interested anyway)

tzenes

there should be some sort of rep charity I can donate my rep to

alexanderpas

@tzenes they are called bounties.

tzenes

there would need to be a question worthy of a bounty first

and I would have to not know the answer or be able to find it

Grace Note

At least wait until you hit 10k proper before you consider junking your rep

alexanderpas

there's a bounty on this question:

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Q: How to change game speed in Starcraft 2 (during a match)?

I was in a game the other day and I saw "<Player> has voted to increase the game speed (fast)" "<Player> has voted to increase the game speed (faster)" I don't remember the player's name, but it was show in place of <Player>. This was right after the game started. I'm still...

starcraft-2 hotkeys keyboard-shortcuts config

and no good answers.

tzenes

1:41 AM

yeah you need to be in practice to find out

and most people in practice don't enough enough to try

alexanderpas

and i want that badge...

tzenes

which?

oh

Grace Note

What badge?

tzenes

bounty

Grace Note

Those are only for people giving the bounty

There's no badge for receiving a bounty

alexanderpas

1:43 AM

@GraceNote altruist "First bounty you manually awarded on another person's question. "

Grace Note

Oh, I see, you are the one who put the bounty there

I didn't pay heed to that

FallenAngelEyes

Whoa almost 4am already

G'night all

Grace Note

G'nite, @Fallen~

alexanderpas

@FallenAngelEyes here too.

Grace Note

Actually, if EO3 I can pass off as happening a ways after EO2, I might actually be able to pull off Semi as a Hoplite

Headed to bed as well, @alex?

alexanderpas

1:46 AM

not yet.

I sleep in the morning.

Grace Note

4:00 sounds like morning

alexanderpas

7:00 is morning, 4:00 is still night, which is the best part of the day (pun intended)

there is only 1 downside of the night.... the stores are closed.

Grace Note

You don't know the right stores, then

alexanderpas

No, I live in the wrong place... convinience store closes at 01:00

Grace Note

That's... not terribly convenient

Popular Demand

1:51 AM

@alexanderpas That doesn't sound convenient at all.

alexanderpas

and nightstore home delivery doesn't have the right stuff.

Mana

I got trolled, lame

-1

A: Where are the subtanks located in Megaman ZX?

They're located on gamefaqs.com

probably one of the guys on Kongregate who bothered to look at my advertising

Grace Note

While that one is basically bleh, your other answer could do better than a lazy link

alexanderpas

do i really need to write an answer for that question...

Grace Note

It can't be that long. There's only going to be 4, aye?

alexanderpas

1:58 AM

also, we can flag answers for being spam.

Mana

Yeah, I agree. I wasn't quite sure how to word it, though. I was kind of hoping he would at least block quote the section he mentioned

Yeah, I already flagged it

It actually is kind of long though

One of them requires a pretty lengthy and difficult series of tasks to be performed

involving a lot of instant-death lava

Grace Note

I'm a bit hazy about calling it "spam", but I guess at the end of the day I might agree. But I'm not going to nuke a fellow

Mana

Huh?

No I meant the located on gamefaqs.com one

Grace Note

Diamond. My flag is instant win.

I mean that one too. I'm technically hazy on it. But I still won't nuke it.

Mana

That one seems like a troll IMO, especially with the name

oh okay.

Yeah, I suppose you're right.

alexanderpas

2:01 AM

grace has super duper moderatorz powerz

Mana

throws self off a cliff

Grace Note

Oak actually pops in here every now and then, aye?

Mana

Fellow Alex, I believe that if we're talking about Grace's super moderator powers, we need a japanese-sounding technique name associated with them.

Yeah

Though, not very often. Usually once a week, as I've seen. Then again my sense of time is completely skewed.

When I say once a week I probably mean once every three days and it just feels like a week.

Grace Note

Why would we need a Japanese sounding technique name for me? I'm a half-European that lives in the US

Mana

Because you're our import gamer

this is something that needs to be done

alexanderpas

2:04 AM

Sūpāmoderētapawāzu

Grace Note

Only when I feel like importing

Mana

yeah, that's true, same for me

Grace Note

Sometimes I'll just get on a plane. That's how I get my 360 games.

Mana

Then again, the only things I've imported so far have been Higurashi and Umineko

and one Touhou game

Hurray, Voice for Gmail.

now I'll actually be able to keep track of people's phone numbers

alexanderpas

笑

if you didn't noticed yet, i'm playing with google translate a bit.

Grace Note

2:15 AM

I see

alexanderpas

Grace 全能

Grace Note

2:30 AM

Hoplite it is! From M to G to H!

I have decided.

So now I'm stuck with a Hoplite in my party at all times. I wonder how that'll work out.

Mana

Billions will perish and you will forever be passed down through time by the remaining few as the one who brought about the extinction of their race.

Grace Note

Hey, if I genocide my entire species then there will be no one left to pass down my legacy

alexanderpas

@GraceNote or just enough... if they want it or not, they have to.

Grace Note

How can anyone survive a scroll of genocide?

...unless they sit on Charon's boat with me

Grace Note

2:51 AM

Off to bed, then. G'nite all

Mana

Night

en1gmatic325

3:35 AM

has just discovered this site has a chat

alexanderpas

Welcome to the chat @en1gmatic325

en1gmatic325

hiya

any particular reason as to why the chat is not mentioned on the faq or about at all?

antony.trupe

3:55 AM

finished spring

I think that was my fastest go at getting farming going

en1gmatic325

You just finished spring? I was done with that thing back on June 21st

3

antony.trupe

Dwarf Fortress Succession

To see if there's interest in a DF succession game and coordin…

en1gmatic325

never played DF

for whatever reason, whenever I read about it it vaguely reminds me of Agricola

tzenes

@en1gmatic325 the chat isn't officially part of gaming yet

we just created a room here

alexanderpas

4:11 AM

we're hanging out here until we've got our own chat.

en1gmatic325

ah, makes sense then I suppose

by the way, tzenes, am I correct in assuming you are a zerg player?

Mana

@en1gmatic325: This isn't mentioned in the FAQ yet because it's not actually a part of the site; it's just a temporary chat on meta SO until we get an actual site, and with it an actual chat.

or somethingzzzzzz

tilts head back, sleeps

alexanderpas

4:31 AM

@Mana you should tilt your head forward, a keyboard is a good pillow.

Mana

I tried, only when I woke up I found myself banned from an IRC chat for spamming

(not a true story)

alexanderpas

@Mana duh.

en1gmatic325

(you should have pretended it was)

Mana

too tired

why the hell I can't motivate myself to crawl into bed is beyond me

actually let me do that

night

alexanderpas

@Mana Well, that means you have the wrong program open... the right program would be notepad, where you would need to write code... might get productive and write a new game.

@Mana I'm in bed... with a laptop.

Mana

4:36 AM

using fainbruck perhaps

what the hell am I doing

night, for real

en1gmatic325

night

alexanderpas

@Mana Good night.

Gaming

5:05 AM

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Q: Problems running Worms Reloaded in Win 7 64bit

I am having problems running Worms reloaded on a Windows 7 64Bit OS. I run the app from Steam. it displays the Team17 logo and then crashes. anybody have any ideas why crash details Faulting application name: WormsReloaded.exe, version: 1.0.0.447, time stamp: 0x4c727c56 Faulting module...

pc windows-7 worms-reloaded

tzenes

5:22 AM

@en1gmatic325 I play random, but Zerg is my best

en1gmatic325

ah, same for me as well...although lately I am beginning to wonder if terran has become my strongest race, it is certainly close

tzenes

I don't think there are many good Protoss players

en1gmatic325

protoss on the other hand...I still generally feel lost doing anything but 4 gate or 3 gate robo

tzenes

which is not to say that the race is weak

If you look at the IEM you have: Whitera, Huk, Naniwa, and HasuObs

Whitera has become a choke artist

Huk is terribad

Naniwa hasn't been playing in many Tourney

and HasuObs is second rate

compare that to TLO or MarroW or Idra or Dimaga

en1gmatic325

I was impressed by what I saw from tester in the king of the beta tourney

tzenes

5:28 AM

tester is good and you see some innovation from him, but he doesn't play much in the US/EU

He's the reason 2 Gate is even considered a build

but every other protoss player is: 3 gate into ...

except Huk who just tries to cheese

en1gmatic325

I'm glad the rate of cheesing goes down as you move up in leagues

tzenes

If you look at zerg players you see radically different styles from Sen's speedling heavy, to Idra macro, to Lalushes fast hydra

same thing from terran

like, who would have thought 5 Rax mass reapers is a viable build?

reapers use to be considered useless

en1gmatic325

except as cheese vs toss :-P

tzenes

and TLO invents 1:1:1

yeah

en1gmatic325

oh, you forgot to rush for a stalker? sucks, you lose

tzenes

5:31 AM

the reaper is a terrible unit

marrow said it best: its straight forward, nothing interesting about it

I dunno. I think they should give speedlings inverse unit walking

or bring back defilers

or something

take roach back down to 1 food

the only interesting thing happening in zerg right now is the magic box

which is sort of the opposite of micro

en1gmatic325

magic box and muta + ling + bling

tzenes

banelings are definitely cool

but roaches are a let down

en1gmatic325

yeah...they went from broken due to being too good, to being a stop-gap measure for getting to tier two units

tzenes

I think a lot of them being broken is just people didn't adjust to them yet

the reason Zerg even need a stop gap is because of the queen

to get to T2 it goes, pool->queen->lair

en1gmatic325

2 armor and 1 food and their incredible regen while burrowed was a bit much I think

tzenes

5:36 AM

because you can't afford to not have the queen

en1gmatic325

and I have heard of people experimenting with no-queen play vs terran

although I haven't tried it myself

tzenes

I've been doing no-queen vs protoss

6 minute hydras

en1gmatic325

that's just mean :-P

tzenes

I usually have 12ish by the 8 minute 4gate timing push

add in corruptors because every toss response with colossus

its like they're all programmed the same

en1gmatic325

what else would you counter hydras with?

tzenes

5:38 AM

either, void ray rush, or 3 gate, did that work? no, 4 gate

HT

off creep it destroys them

en1gmatic325

true

tzenes

speedlots + ff works too

en1gmatic325

but they are quite gas heavy

tzenes

well Zealots are strong vs Hydra, so you should have extra gas

en1gmatic325

I hate ff -_-

tzenes

5:39 AM

yeah

right now ff feels like they're trying to force you to go ultra

because Terran doesn't care

and PvP is mirror

en1gmatic325

I play a good deal of 2v2, and getting blocked in your base while they attack your partner is one of the most obnoxious things ever

tzenes

well 2v2 is all about meeting up

Hi @jin

how are those skins coming?

Jin

howdy

will start on the gaming skin tomorrow. been busy with other stuff. finalizing on the webapps first.

but you just reminded me, i should go ahead make a post on meta.gaming about design ideas...

en1gmatic325

what league are you in btw? diamond I presume?

tzenes

cool

@en1gmatic325 when I play Zerg I'm diamond

when I play protoss its more like plat

I think my 1s right now is low diamond

but that has more to do with me neglecting ladder play

en1gmatic325

5:43 AM

I still haven't done my 1v1 placement since the game actually released :-P

I did it 3 times in the beta

diamond every time

tzenes

I don't know how many times I did it in beta, but too many

I think they cranked up the formula because I was getting better players by the 3rd or 4th game

en1gmatic325

yeah

tzenes

It used to be: 3 games of proxy whatever

en1gmatic325

you now place better players at the end if you win your first few

tzenes

I once proxy hatch

that was great

spine crawlers as far as the eye could see

he moved to hit nat

en1gmatic325

5:44 AM

in 3v3 where we somehow placed into silver (some of my friends are not so good, but that still seems quite low)

tzenes

but since he lost so many probes, I just kept building them

en1gmatic325

on a map with the nats above the mains

I took one of their nats with my scouting drone

tzenes

oh on that little plateau?

en1gmatic325

yeah

and then the first units to come out of it at them

ULTRALISKS

tzenes

nice

en1gmatic325

5:46 AM

they had just found it too, so about 10 stalkers get there, and out pop 6 ultras

tzenes

stupid lair shouldn't be dependent on pool

en1gmatic325

I don't think I will ever again get to pull off proxy ultras :-P

I just wish the races tech times were more even

tzenes

I would proxy ultra against some Terran if I didn't have to build a spawning pool to get to lair

yeah

en1gmatic325

the time it takes to get to tier 3 zerg vs tier 3 terran is silly

but I suppose it is just to compensate for the production differences

tzenes

its the damn queen

en1gmatic325

5:48 AM

when zerg hits a tier, they can instantly get a ton of units of that tech, other races can't do that

tzenes

for zerg to get to t3 is: pool->queen->lair->infestor->hive->ultra

for terran its barrack->factory->starport

and they can swap addons

en1gmatic325

fusion core.

tzenes

for a long time my TvZ was: build 5 hellions, follow up with Thor

en1gmatic325

have you faced any of the reaper -> hellion -> cloaked banshee harasses?

it is just endless terran annoyances -_-

tzenes

No not yet

I have had a couple people go fast vikings

en1gmatic325

5:51 AM

the poor overlords :-(

tzenes

thats why I came up with 6 minute hydras

en1gmatic325

I had someone put me 100 food in the red the other day

tzenes

ouch

en1gmatic325

they had lots of vikings, I had lots of ultralisks

today I tried sc2 on a 7.5 year old gaming rig

tzenes

how'd it go?

en1gmatic325

5:56 AM

not too well when any micro was required

tzenes

figures

en1gmatic325

was playing 3v3 with some friends, an attack was incoming at my nat, I needed to shift some units over to defend it...game seized up and by the time I could do anything the nat was already dead and one of my friends had already come and defended it for me

but the first 3v3 I was terran, took 3 bases and sat behind a wall until I made a pop-cap mech army, then 1a and repeated that twice and my team won :-P

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Q: Retagging of [heart-gold] and [soul-silver]

I've been looking through various questions, and I feel [heart-gold] and [soul-silver] should be retagged as [heartgold] and [soulsilver] respectively, as in the official titles the name is one single word. What does everybody else think?

discussion retagging

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