The Friendly Café

@NordTheLoftyWizard No, the actual entire reason why we ended up having a Trash Bin was 'cause the Trash Bin was our original room. Lemme explain, it's kinda hard to explain...

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard wait, it was? I must have been gone for a longer time than i thought then

Tech Expert Wizard

12:33 AM

@Nord Um, when did you start being gone?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

hmm, hard to say

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord A month ago?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I think sha would probably know

I could also know by looking at past message but :P

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord I also wanna know ;)

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I guess maybe a bit more than a month

Tech Expert Wizard

12:34 AM

@Nord You've been gone since November 23, 2020 ;)

Nord The Lofty Wizard

wow

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Just look at this

→ 1 message moved to Trash Bin

Nord The Lofty Wizard

yeah, so more than two month

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord We started this room on December 28th, 2020 😉

@Nord Look at this. This was our first day...

Nord The Lofty Wizard

pretty recent :O

so, anyone doing programming here? personal projects maybe?

Tech Expert Wizard

12:37 AM

@Nord Well, in this room we play with chatbots and write the code for them.

@Nord So I'm still actively developing my own chatbot, so is ppw and Ann 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I see. which langs?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Python. I can teach you how to make a chatbot too...

@Nord By the way, ppw's someone you should know, he's really nice and friendly 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

never made a chatbot before, though I'm still learning python (know it a bit)

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord What else langs do you know?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard what's their full nick?

Tech Expert Wizard

12:39 AM

@Nord ppw's actually ppwater. But everyone, especially myself, calls him ppw 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard hmm, bash/shell stuff i guess? a little bit of C, but really mostly shell and python

@TechExpertWizard don't know them i think? unless they changed their nick before...

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Well, you'll know him now that you're in this room. He's probably gonna arrive in about 30 minutes, I dunno...

@NordTheLoftyWizard Oh. If you knew Java, you could also design a chatbot 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard HA! i would have learned java but maybe when i finished my own projects first

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Huh? What do you mean?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

essentially: priorities :P

Tech Expert Wizard

12:40 AM

@Nord What are your priorities?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I just prioritize stuff i want to do.

Well

you can see stuff i tried to implement but needed help with on my questions history

it's mostly misc stuff but i plan to do something interesting with it i hope

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Oh... Well, do you wanna learn how to make a chatbot?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

sure

if it's in python

:D

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord You can do it in lots of langs, mainly Python or Java 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I actually thought of making a chatbot once but using ssh as main communication protocol

since it's secure and on nearly all systems these days

Tech Expert Wizard

12:42 AM

@Nord Here's the link for the ChatExchange Python PyPI library 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard didn't know they had this :O

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord So you see, you can do it with Java, Python, Swift, Ruby, and Kotlin 😉

@Nord And here is their official chatroom, although you probably won't need it:

SOBotics

This room is dedicated to moderating content on Stack Overflow...

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@Nord So, want me to teach you how to make a chatbot? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard sure :)

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord OK, so first, you need to run pip3 install chatexchange. This installs the Python ChatExchange library.

@Nord?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard alright, then?

Tech Expert Wizard

12:46 AM

@Nord Um, have you done it? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

yeah

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord OK, good. Now, the next step is writing code. Wait a sec 😉

So, now, at the top of the code is from chatexchange.client import Client This line allows you to use the ChatExchange API.

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard i see

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord By the way, you'll have to create a new account for your bot.

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard O so that's what people probably use for "bot account"

Tech Expert Wizard

12:48 AM

email = "email@email.com"
password = "**************"
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)

@Nord Yep, that's what they always mean 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard wait, was there even someone getting over using this?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Getting over what?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard bot account i mean

btw, just fyi, sometimes i get afk because of connection issues

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Well, technically you don't have to create a bot account, you can use your own account but you'll have to add the prefix "Bot: " or whatever something to indicate that this message is actually sent by your bot instead of yourself.

room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()

@Nord Now, this is the next piece of code. This allows you to join a room, in this case, the room with a room ID of 1543.

@Nord Now, to send a message, use room.send_message('hi guys!')

@Nord Finally, to leave the room, use room.leave()

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard I see, this is pretty nice

Tech Expert Wizard

12:54 AM

@Nord Did you see the above message about whether or not to use a bot account?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard yeah, i did

@TechExpertWizard did anyone ever/already made a cli/tui chat app for SO?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Huh? What do you mean?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

as in, a terminal chat app but for SO

given the API, might be easier to do

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord SE isn't really about chatting. But it's just something that came along with SE.

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I know!

I just meant if someone already did it or not

if not, i guess that could be a nice project if the API permit it

actually what's the limitation of the API? like number of queries etc

Tech Expert Wizard

12:56 AM

@Nord I actually recommend against creating a separate bot account for your chatbot at this time of the year 'cause it's not like in late December when you have the Winter Bash where you can use that to gain 20 rep for your bot account to chat, right now you can't do that, you could only do it the hard way by suggesting edits like Ann did.

@Nord Oh, if you restart your bot too many times within a short period of time, they'll ask you to manually login to your bot account and do a captcha.

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard I see. good to know

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord So, I recommend you to use your own account, except you must attach the prefix of "Bot: " to every message your bot sends, okay?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

oh yeah, talking about captcha, I've been receiving a lot of those these days, even though i don't do anything special with my account (never had any couple months ago)

@TechExpertWizard alright

Tech Expert Wizard

@NordTheLoftyWizard Hmm, that's pretty strange...

@Nord So, this is the final code we get:

from chatexchange.client import Client
email = 'email@email.com'
password = '**************'
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)
room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()
room.send_message('BOT: Hello!')
room.leave()

@Nord So here's the basic code that you should have 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard nice. that was easier than i thought

Tech Expert Wizard

1:01 AM

@Nord But that's only the basics. Your bot needs to be able to respond to commands and stuff like that, so it ain't as easy as it seems at this stage 😉 But, right now, just please go ahead and implement the above code 😉 Eventually your bot'll be like my bot 😉

@Nord By the way, when you start adding new features to your bot, you need to give me your bot's code, okay? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard is your bot on github/gitlab?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Nope... I'll give it to you later...

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard sure, don't think I'll use it much but it's a fun exercise

@TechExpertWizard why? '-'

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord 'Cause you have to first build a basic chatbot before I can give you my advanced code 😉

@NordTheLoftyWizard OK, good 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard is it for personal reason or to see how well i can do without looking at your code?

oh right

:D

Tech Expert Wizard

1:04 AM

@NordTheLoftyWizard Um, I mean, look, I give you my code, so you should also give me your code, right? 😉 I mean, it's just obvious, right? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard I guess? I won't use this privately anyway, so yeah /s

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord 😉 Good. So, now, please just implement the above code I gave you 😉

6 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

from chatexchange.client import Client
email = 'email@email.com'
password = '**************'
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)
room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()
room.send_message('BOT: Hello!')
room.leave()

tb coffee Nord

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard brews a cup of café au lait for @Nord

Tech Expert Wizard

tb coffee

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard brews a cup of americano for @TechExpertWizard

Tech Expert Wizard

1:07 AM

tb hug Nord

tb coffee Nord

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard hugs @Nord

Tech Expert Wizard

tb hug

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard brews a cup of cortado for @Nord

Nord The Lofty Wizard

:3 Thanks

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard hugs @TechExpertWizard

Tech Expert Wizard

1:07 AM

@Nord Um, thanks to which message? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard all of them? lol

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord lol ;D 😉 By the way, that's my way of saying "lol," basically 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

yeah, i don't mind

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord You don't have to adopt it, I'm just telling you my arbitrary customs 😉

@Nord By the way, it was sha's idea for the tb hug command lol ;D 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

yeah, i was surprised to see this one

TechBOT

1:10 AM

Hello! I'm Tech BOT, and my owner is Tech Expert Wizard.

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord It was just 'cause sha insisted on it 😉

tb help hug

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard Hugs yourself or someone else. Originally requested by @sha. Syntax: tb hug [ user ]

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Just added it into the official documentation 😉

@Nord You can also tb hug yourself, 'cause that's actually the main purpose why sha requested it. He wanted to hug himself with the bot, basically lol ;D 😉

tb hug

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard hugs @TechExpertWizard

Tech Expert Wizard

5 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

6 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

from chatexchange.client import Client
email = 'email@email.com'
password = '**************'
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)
room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()
room.send_message('BOT: Hello!')
room.leave()

@Nord? Implement this code? Please? 😉

tb wake Nord

Please? @Nord? Where are you? 😉

TechBOT

1:14 AM

Hello! I'm Tech BOT, and my owner is Tech Expert Wizard.

Tech Expert Wizard

tb wake Nord

TechBOT

@TechExpertWizard Wake up, @Nord!

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard lmao. That sound totally like him

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Could you please implement the bot code now? 😉

2 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

5 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

6 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

from chatexchange.client import Client
email = 'email@email.com'
password = '**************'
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)
room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()
room.send_message('BOT: Hello!')
room.leave()

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard it's already typed?

or do you mean adding new features?

Tech Expert Wizard

1:15 AM

@Nord I mean just please implement the bot code above and run it 😉

@Nord Please? I have to go in 3 minutes, and I really want to see your bot sending the message 😉

1 min ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

2 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

5 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

6 mins ago, by Tech Expert Wizard

from chatexchange.client import Client
email = 'email@email.com'
password = '**************'
se_chat = Client('meta.stackexchange.com')
se_chat.login(email, password)
room = se_chat.get_room('1543')
room.join()
room.send_message('BOT: Hello!')
room.leave()

@Nord? Come on, just please do it 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard kinda can't now...computing tons of stuff

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Um, coding what? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

only have 200MB memory left

in python :P

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Oh... That's really bad. How much memory does your computer have in total? 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

only 6GB

I got lots of swap but it's all used right now

Tech Expert Wizard

1:18 AM

@Nord Oh... That's really bad 🙁

@Nord But that's too bad... I really wanted to see your bot... 😉

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard but the other used that template too right? so the same thing will happen as it did for them :D

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Who's the other?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

meant the other who were making bots with you

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord ppw or Ann?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

both?

Tech Expert Wizard

1:21 AM

@Nord Yes, I know, but I just wanna see your bot...

@Nord By the way, there's a bad dude in cafe history that you need to know. His name is Grundy. WARNING: DO NOT PING GRUNDY. DOING SO MAY CAUSE SEVERE TROUBLE.

Grundy, Тула, Тульская область, Россия

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Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard what do you mean by "severe trouble"?

see him in the stars here

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Well, he loves banning people...

Nord The Lofty Wizard

...and you're telling me no one from the staff are doing anything?

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord Yes, I know, that part was funny and we also make jokes about him lol

@Nord Well, yeah, he's a mod on Russian SO, and he really loves banning people, usually with a reason that isn't sufficient to ban that person.

@Nord OK, well, gotta go, bye!

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard take care!

Tech Expert Wizard

1:24 AM

@ppw I'm leaving, I'm just gonna quickly introduce you to Nord the Lofty Wizard.

Nord The Lofty Wizard

wave @ppwater

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord You'll probably meet ppw if you stick in here ;) And please run tests on your bot ;) ppw can teach you more about chatbots ;)

Nord The Lofty Wizard

alright

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw Please teach Nord more about making chatbots, 'cause I have to go to sleep now ;)

@Nord So I recommend you to stick in here till ppw comes here. By the way, what time is it where you live?

Nord The Lofty Wizard

@TechExpertWizard past midnight

Tech Expert Wizard

1:26 AM

@Nord Um, then I guess you probably won't be able to wait much longer, right?

@ppw Express ping!

Nord The Lofty Wizard

I guess yeah? I don't mind doing this another time. still plan to use SO quite a lot so

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw Please, come here!

Nord The Lofty Wizard

don't worry, can do it later

Tech Expert Wizard

@Nord I hope ppw will come earlier. But these days, he's really variable.

@Nord I mean, he's got a really variable arriving and leaving time. Well, anyways, goodbye!

Nord The Lofty Wizard

bye!

Tech Expert Wizard

2:10 AM

@Nord Looks like you left 🙁

@ppw? Express ping? Please? I'm loneli 🙁

@Ann? Ping? I'm loneli 🙁

@Nor Test ping, or maybe ping test?

@Nor is it a test ping, is it?

@Nor And I actually basically mean "Nor is it a test ping, is it?" lol ;D 😉

@NordTheLoftyWizard Hope you'll be back by the time I'm up. I've done the calculations: assuming that you're at 12:30 AM when I'm 8:30 PM, you're probably gonna be up by 4 AM (probably before, actually) where I live, and I usually wake up at 6 AM, so I'll be able to talk with you more tomorrow morning 😉

ppwater

4:52 AM

@NordTheLoftyWizard hello

@TechExpertWizard sure

@TechExpertWizard ah, thanks

I said, I have things to do today, remember?

17 hours ago, by ppwater

I have to sleep early today.. I have some things to do at tomorrow morning

@nord seems you left, ping me if you are here. I am anytime available from now on to 10? pm

ppwater

7:41 AM

@TechExpertWizard ;)

ppwater

8:31 AM

@tec Ya here?

ppwater

10:48 AM

@tec?

ppwater

11:03 AM

@Nor?

Anyone?

ppwater

11:26 AM

@tec? I guess a little late today..

Ping me when you are here

Tech Expert Wizard

11:43 AM

@Tec I am here now ;)

ppwater

@tec Hello! You should ping me tho ;)

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw I just got here ;)

@ppw Too bad, you missed Nord...

ppwater

@TechExpertWizard yeah...

@tec well, I was doing something at the morning...

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw It's okay, I'm sure he'll be back 😉

@Nord Ping!

ppwater

@tec So, did you implement the status feature?

I'll wait a sec, you'll be busy in the trash bin ;)

Tech Expert Wizard

11:51 AM

@ppw Well, I'm getting really close, but I won't share the code with you not 'cause I don't want to (of course I want to) but I want to see your own coding skills, not my help 😉

ppwater

@TechExpertWizard I didn't need to ;) Well, share the code when I'm finished

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw OK, sure, and share your own code too 😉

ppwater

Sure thing ;)

And I am implementing restart.

Tech Expert Wizard

@ppw Restart? How are you gonna do that? 😉

ppwater

first, leave the room, and join again? simple

not that simple tho (at implementing)