@quid Or maybe you should think about stepping up? Probably you should get some sleep.

@amWhy what's not clear about "There was/is an inherited ban of a duration of several days until time X. If then a flag comes in the ban gets extended until time X + 30 mins and the reason gets updated."

Did this not explain that it was not concurrent?

@amWhy not when you were suspended on the math.se.

@quid Yes, thanks to Xander.

@amWhy that reply makes no sense to this question.

Anyway I invested already way too much time in yet another of your issues.

@quid Your penultimate reply made no sense to my comment. You answered a question already answered. And drop the sarcasm. You don't wear it well.

@quid You answered me two days after my suspension from math.se, at which point the chat extended suspension had already been issued, and at which time, if you had initially investigated this confusion, I wouldn't have had to wait until four more days to learn why. So forgive me pursuing the question you failed to investigate in the first place.

@quid It's okay to make a mistake; but just say so, instead of attacking the person who points it out. We all make mistakes. Just own yours, like I own mine.

Hello, @Nordine!

@amWhy Hi :D

how you're doing? @amWhy

@NordineLotfi I'm doing okay. Just waiting out my remaining eight day suspension, but I've been plenty busy, anyway. How about you?

I'm good. was lurking for a bit you know? busy here too though that was couple hours ago :D

@NordineLotfi Lurk all you want! ;D

@amWhy :D

@amWhy I quoted something I had said earlier.

Still earlier:

You muddied the waters by switching around the parent and misrepresenting what you did.

@quid I didn't misrepresent anything, @quid.

^^ not at the relevant point in time.

@quid I assumed it was my parent site.

@amWhy you switched it post suspension.

Therefore you must have been aware that math.se was your parent when you were suspended and the initial asking around why you are suspended in chat was broderline bad faith.

@quid At the time of my suspension, I assumed it had been my site. I had previously attempted to change back the mathed.edu after creating the math.se chatroom, but must have failed to "submit" the edit on my chat profile.

@amWhy but you changed it then.

@quid That's not true.

@amWhy I'm pretty sure it is.

It wasn't math.se anymore when I first looked. Thus it had been changed.

@quid My primary concern, @quid, was the reason for suspension recorded on my profile. The majority of my comments here speak to that. That's why I'm upset a chat suspension occurred, that I was told didn't occur.

@amWhy it had not yet occurred when we initially talked about it.

@quid Thanks you for clearing that up.

I'll bother you no more, @quid. I don't want you to think:

Good night, @quid.

looks like something from Pixar

(the spider i mean)

(sorry if anyone have arachnophobia, should have put a warning first hmm)

oh yeah, since i mentioned youtube:

@amWhy what is true is that I did not realize it right away when it happened and some explanations I gave on thursday where still based on the initial status, which had already changed then, and I had not double-checked if it changed (as that was not so likely).

@quid I understand. No problem.

@NordineLotfi I know absolutely nothing about either distinction :/

and yet, no one is really talking about these things on youtube or making it really known

@amWhy alright. Good night.

Hello, @Safdar!

Hey, What's up?

@Safdar Not much... except I'm busy teaching and collaborating elsewhere.

@Safdar I was going to suggest a "word game": What words with four or more letters can be formed from PERMUTATION, but I've already listed 108 such words. So I'm trying to scale the "word" chosen so the number of words that can be formed are more limited.

@amWhy Do you list after you suggest or is the listing done impromptu?

@Safdar Usually impromptu. Since I need to wait a week before returning to the cafe/tavern chat on math.se, I've been considering possible challenging words. Since "permutation" contains every vowel in the English language, the list could be endless.

@Safdar I sometimes list a few words as examples, but I try to keep it open for everyone to participate and contribute.

@amWhy ARCHAIC? Have we done that?

@amWhy Your skills far surpass all of ours..

@Safdar That would be a good one! CHAIR ARCH HAIR RICH CHAR

Letter restrictions?

@Safdar Yeah, it's like finding a word that can engender a number of words, but not hundreds of words!

CHIC

CAR,ARC, CHI (3 letter words tho').

AIR

wave hand Hi

@NordineLotfi o/

(D-D)/

$\ddot \smile ^/$

@amWhy no mathjax on meta :(

@Safdar I see it render!

@amWhy My extension doesn't work.. :| I need to fix it.

Looks fine to me.

@XanderHenderson I improved it!

Also, I started uploading that image before amWhy responded that she sees it render. :)

doesn't render for me either :/

using firefox here

U haz to install ChatJax bookmarklet.

:O

@XanderHenderson I have a chrome extension that does that automatically, it doesn't recognise Meta SE..

@Safdar You need to refresh it in you bookmark when you return to chat, to see rendering. I did that to see my mathjax render. My bookmarklet reads: "Start mathjax"...

@Safdar Solution: get a better browser. :P

@XanderHenderson Isn't chrome the better one? What else?

$$\Huge { \left( \ddot \smile \right)^/}$$

@Safdar Chrome is creepy 'cause Google likes to stalk you.

@amWhy It works now..

That being said, I don't know what is "better".

@XanderHenderson I feel sorry for google then.. Must be pretty dull..

@Safdar Yay!

I mostly use Opera, but also use Safari, Chrome, and Firefox for various things.

@XanderHenderson Do you regularly have to click on the bookmarklet "start chatjax" to read rendering periodically?

@amWhy Only every time I refresh the page.

Which is "not often"

@XanderHenderson That makes sense, then, because I refresh often! :-)

I use firefox/chromium these days, but i kind of liked palemoon

$$\Huge {\overbrace{\left(\ddot\smile\right)}}^/$$

$$\color{blue}{\Huge {\overbrace{\left(\ddot\smile\right)}}/}$$

Do any of you use this? stackedit.io

@Safdar first time i see this

@Safdar Not yet.

$$\color{green}{\Huge {\overbrace{\left(\dddot\smile\right)}}/}$$

amwhy ....$\uparrow$ this one has a nose

@QueenieGoldstein It looks like a three-eyed monster! ;D Just kidding!

@Xander: $$\Huge {\left(\underbrace{\ddot\smile}\right)}^/$$

\

$$\Huge {\backslash \left(\underbrace{\ddot\smile}\right)}/$$

This has $\mathbb{C}_2$ symmetry

@QueenieGoldstein I give up!! I was trying to create Xanter's goatee (as depicted by his identicon when he's not wearing a mask!)

Ohhh I see

anyone know any stylish S? maybe in Mathjax

@NordineLotfi mathfrak

$$\Huge{\mathfrak{S}}$$

@QueenieGoldstein that looks like a reverse a

pretty stylish

@NordineLotfi disappointment it is

To me it looks like a G

$$\mathbb{S}$$

@QueenieGoldstein it does look like one now that you mentioned it

@QueenieGoldstein That's what I was going to say.

wait, so G are just reversed a

if I'm ever getting addicted to mathjax, i know who to blame :-)

@NordineLotfi Hah!

@NordineLotfi $$\Huge{}\text{Stylish }\ \mathcal{S}$$

$$\large \mathcal S$$ \mathcal S

You maybe able to download more packages for Latex....but MathJax is a bit restricted

$$\mathcal L$$

Is this L

yes

$\Huge{\&}$

this is the best S lol...a bit cartoonish

@NordineLotfi Use \mathcal S

and $$\& \mathfrak{tylish}$$

$$\Huge{\mathbb{FUN}}$$

@QueenieGoldstein I was just using an example of another letter in \mathcal font: $$\mathcal {A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z}$$

$$\Large{\mathrm{A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z}}$$

@QueenieGoldstein Why are you doing that??

I am checking how mathfrak looks on all letters, thanks for typing them in ;)

@QueenieGoldstein This is \mathbb

Yeah, I forget sometimes

@QueenieGoldstein Nice S :O

Thanks @QueenieGoldstein and @amWhy

@amWhy Hello. I am in a meeting. Later.

@XanderHenderson take care!

Still in a meeting. However, $\mathscr{S}$ is better than $\mathcal{S}$. :P

$$\Large\mathscr{ABCDEFGHIJKMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ}$$

($\mathscr{L}$ has been intentionally omitted to make it more Christmas-y)

@XanderHenderson Indeed. I couldn't remember mthscr (tried script which didn't work) :(

@XanderHenderson $\mathscr{CHRISTMAS}$ is three months off

But $\mathscr S$ doesn't look like S??

@XanderHenderson The first looks like a drunken lowercase f or j or something that won't commit to being a letter. The second looks like an S. :P

$\mathscr S$ looks too much like $\mathscr I$.

...which looks too much like $\mathscr J$

...and $\mathscr L$

$\mathscr Z$ look like a L hmm

@NordineLotfi Indeed... :/

I know I wouldn't recognize $\mathscr{CHRISTMAS}$ as being "Christmas"...

hello @amWhy,@NordineLotfi,@XanderHenderson

logged in after a while today

night pals!

I hope everyone's week is off to a good start. @quid, you included; I hope this week is less hectic that your previous couple of weeks have been.

In the Northern Hemisphere, tomorrow is the first day of Fall/Autumn !!

Autumn in Wisconsin!! ^^^^

Enjoy the color!!!

@Xander What do you see when you look out your windows, cacti?? ;D (You showed me one pic which was pretty cool/ just joking), but Arizona can't compare to WI in scenery! (variety of trees, colors, etc.) :P

@amWhy so do I! But I guess it will be roughly the same. Yet, there is some progress.

@BabaYaga o/

@amWhy those look beautiful :O

really like the pic below too, remind me of a wallpaper i had somewhere

@quid No problem... hopefully it smooths out as the semester progresses.

@amWhy let's hope so. :-)

@amWhy Mostly sage. The cacti are at lower elevations.

That is the view out my window.

@XanderHenderson Sorry for my overgeneralization. I know I hate it when people think of cows only, when thinking of Wisconsin. Both your state and mine have a lot of variation across them.

@amWhy No worries. About 70% of Arizona is Sonoran desert.

@XanderHenderson What I love about your views are the horizons you can view; when surrounded by trees, like I am, I miss such views where I live.

However, I am up off of the Mogollon Rim, so into the high desert.

It an Artemesia dominated landscape.

I was going to suggest a word game using PERMUTATION, but given the five vowels appearing in it, and my rapid list of well over 100 words, four or more letters, that can be formed from it, I'm in search of a more challenging word!!

Like a word with 10 or twenty words that can be formed from its letters, but not hundreds!

ALGEBRA !! E.g. BRAG BARGE ...

@amWhy by challenging, you mean smaller? like with less letters?

@NordineLotfi Either fewer letters, or more challenging to find four letter words that can be formed from its letters, where there unlikely over a hundred words that can be formed.

BAGEL, LAGER, AREA....

GALA LARGE BARGE ... There are more: @quid and @Xander must each find a valid word!! :P

Hint: Find the missing prefix: _ _ _ _ Analysis

Hint: _ EAR

Okay, @quid, @Xander, @NordineLotfi, sorry to have bored you here.

@amWhy you didn't! I'm not that good at word play, though i did try to think about it hmm

@amWhy GEBRA

BRA

@quid Hah... I'm seeking four or more letters, else we get GAL, GEL, etc.

@amWhy ah I missed that.

@amWhy also lag

and leg

@quid No problem!! GLARE BLARE

@quid And bar, and beg and bag and bar and lab!!

ABLE !

GABLE

Clarke

@quid Good one!

@quid ??? Where does Clarke fit in.... Oh, I get it!! Clarke Gable!!

GARB

@amWhy indeed. Tough it seems it's Clark

@quid I figured out what you meant, either way :-)

BALE GALE REAL

GEAR BEAR BARE

RAGE

ALGAE

GARBLE google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=garble

EARL

Now I'm beginning to repeat myself, so I welcome anything thus far missed! ;D

Anyway, @quid, good to see you today, and thanks for stopping in!! ;D

@amWhy do you know Rage Against the Machine?

@quid I've heard that before... is it a band?

@amWhy yes

@quid found that same video in my recommended four days ago

anyone know IDONTKNOWHOWBUTTHEYFOUNDME?

they're pretty good too, though probably not same genre

@NordineLotfi that's funny.

@quid Yikes!! Not my style, but I'm no one to judge!

@amWhy now you know how I mange to always be in such a mellow mood ;-)

@quid ;D

@quid it's the kind of song i can listen 2/4 times and then stop for the day

(not that much considering how much i listen to other stuff)

@NordineLotfi Reminds me of one of the first ever MTV music videos way back when, of Talking Heads.

@quid Seriously, are you a fan of such music?? Hey, everyone has their own taste, but I'd never have pegged you for a fan of that. I learn something every day!

@amWhy they actually do look similar yeah

though

and

look much more similar

@amWhy I owned that record way back then in the mid nineties.

It's not my favorite thing though.

@quid Hah! Yes, I understand!

@quid what's your favorite then? :P

@amWhy actually I have some quite more "crazy" music. Once I wanted to present my most recent finding to a friend. They freaked out because they thought I broke their record player...yet it was the song.

@NordineLotfi, @quid ^^^ This is hilarious!! ;D

@quid Your a rebel, deep down! ;D

@quid that description remind me of some touhou midi song which had millions of notes (basically took a huge amount of disk in raw format, think 1TB or so)

@amWhy I can't believe how this is so well made (the movement mostly) the dub is decent compared to other one i think

@amWhy Not bored. Just "proctoring" an exam.

@NordineLotfi I know! It was really funny, and comparatively

@XanderHenderson Ahh, yes... in less than a month, we'll be closer in time zones!!

this isn't the best/worse i seen of trump dubbing songs...

@amWhy Yarp.

@amWhy Like this:

@NordineLotfi OMG

@amWhy the fact whoever edited this had to watch every time he speaked, and match it so it to actual korean words...just, wow

@NordineLotfi Indeed!

@quid Hah! ;D

@quid When young I really appreciated Pink Floyd's The Wall, even though my own experience in school was positive...

@amWhy yes. It's a classic.

Do you know "Interstellar Overdrive"

@quid Indeed.

@quid No, not off hand. Oh, after searching for it, yes I do recognize it!

the notes also make some nice drawing on-screen (probably on purpose given the subject of the music)

surprised it still feel decent with that much notes, though i can't remember/find the worse one i found

nvm, found it

still unsure if it's the worse yet, but that'll do for now

(worse -> notes count)

I'm guessing I'm probably the only ones into black midi here :D?

@NordineLotfi I hadn't encountered them before. Fascinating with the colors accentuating the music.