2018: a year in moderation

Martin

8:41 AM

@Martin looks like it's already done. On what meta site you think it's missing? — Shadow Wizard 6 mins ago

Mithrandir

Science Fiction & Fantasy, for one...

Martin

This shows 172 results. I have to admit that I don't know where to find number of sites in the Network.

Mithrandir

stackexchange.com/tour

Shadow Wizard

@Martin well, one is the MSE question so it's actually 171

@Mithrandir huh. So weird. Maybe just an overlook?

Mithrandir

Or intentional.

Due to meta drama there in the past.

people were complaining that the mods weren't active enough, and I'm guessing Shog might not have wanted to risk dragging that up again

Shadow Wizard

8:45 AM

@Mithrandir oh.... interesting.

Mithrandir

@ShadowWizard That's long in the past. SFF has a very positive chat culture now.

Martin

Regarding the suggestion to post on MathOverflow Meta - I'll wait at least a few days.

Shadow Wizard

@Martin ok, your call. :)

Martin

A short discussion started under this meta question: No “2018: A year in moderation” here?.

It was mainly related to some metas missing the post, but feel free to discuss anything related to these posts here.

Does somebody know whether there is indeed a plan to post this on all per-site-metas? If yes, this is still an ongoing process, right? — Martin 27 mins ago

@Martin looks like it's already done. On what meta site you think it's missing? — Shadow Wizard 20 mins ago

@Martin I noticed this on three different child metas (Stack Overflow, Super User and Open Source beta), so I just assumed (perhaps wrongly) it would be on all of them. Do you have another example of a meta site that doesn't have such a post? — Mureinik 19 mins ago

@ShadowWizard I did not see anything on MathOverflow Meta. However, MO is a somewhat special case. (It's part of Stack Exchange network and also to some extent independent. But perhaps we should wait a bit to see - maybe it's going to be posted later.) — Martin 16 mins ago

Notice that some messages might be moved here from another chatroom - they will probably appear before my short description of the room above.

So far, we have notice only two metas without such post: MathOverflow and Science Fiction & Fantasy.

Shadow Wizard

9:02 AM

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Martin

Since this discussion about per-site-metas where the post of this kind is missing is a digression from the topic of this question we can continue it in chat if needed. — Martin 21 secs ago

rene

I'm here for moderation drama. Is this the right place?

Martin

So far no drama here - but if it comes, I'm pretty sure you'll help to moderate it.

rene

Oh, I like the preemptive measures ;)

Martin

So if there are 173 communities in Stack Exchange, and there are 172 results with one of them on Meta Stack Exchange, perhaps it's correct that only two sites are missing.

Shadow Wizard

9:14 AM

@Martin he can't without being RO.... @rene has no shiny diamond. ;)

@Martin probably, though the search might find something else, I didn't check them all.

Martin

@rene In any case, if you are asking about the drama mentioned above, I am not familiar with SciFi site, so I don't really know much about that.

Shadow Wizard

@Mith does, but not pingable here.

rene

@ShadowWizard ssssttttt ....

@Martin let me check that number as it is notoriously misreported on several places

Shadow Wizard

Yeah sometimes they count Area 51 and StackApps, sometimes they don't...

Feeds

Martin has added rene to the list of this room's owners.

Martin

9:18 AM

Following Shadow Wizard's hint.

Shadow Wizard

:D

rene

4

Q: Stack Exchange community count mismatch

I see some mismatch with the Stack Exchange site counts. In Meta stack Exchange page it shows "A list of all 151 Stack Exchange" sites In Stack Exchange page it shows "A list of all 153 Stack Exchange" sites And in the Stack Exchange Tour section it describes "Stack Exchange is a network of ...

but the dupe is answered by the wizard

Shadow Wizard

outdated answer... :/

Martin

Popup in the top bar says: "A list of all 174 Stack Exchange sites."

Shadow Wizard

Fixed! Answer edited to be more "generic".

rene

9:37 AM

$.get('https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/sites?pagesize=500&filter=!6Oe78nmjjzwCi', function(data){
var type = [];
for(var i=0; i<data.items.length; i++) {
  var item = data.items[i];
  type[item.site_type] = (type[item.site_type] ||0) + 1;
}
console.log(type);

});

that returns main_site: 174 meta_site: 172

Shadow Wizard

Yup no meta site for StackApps and MSE.

Guess that's the most reliable count one can get. :)

Martin

So there are 172 per site metas.

Shadow Wizard

Indeed, including Area 51 Discussion Zone.

Martin

After changing the search to 2018: a year in moderation is:q the number of results drops to 168.

Shadow Wizard

@Martin huh, smart. Forgot we can do it on se.com search, lol :)

So it's missing from 5 meta sites.

Now to find which....

Guess script can do it.

Martin

9:59 AM

Is Russian Stack Overflow included in the count of 172: ru.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions ?

And Portuguese Stack Overflow: pt.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions ?

And also Spanish: es.meta.stackoverflow.com/questions

SciFi, MO and the three language mutations would give together the 5 missing metas.

rene

@Martin yes, those are in

rene

11:06 AM

@Martin this would need to be hand checked but based on some rough scripting these are the sites where Shog9 didn't post last days:

not posted on:
VM1903:32 scifi.meta
VM1903:32 spanish.meta
VM1903:32 meta.mathoverflow.net
VM1903:32 pt.meta.stackoverflow
VM1903:32 cs50.meta
VM1903:32 ja.meta.stackoverflow
VM1903:32 emacs.meta
VM1903:32 ru.meta.stackoverflow
VM1903:32 rus.meta
VM1903:32 es.meta.stackoverflow
VM1903:32 stellar.meta
VM1903:32 conlang.meta
VM1903:32 quantumcomputing.meta
VM1903:32 eosio.meta

due to my testng I'm now IP banned for the API so I can't run the script anymore

/cc @ShadowWizard

Here is what I have put together so far:

$.get('https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/sites?pagesize=500&filter=!6Oe78nmjjzwCi&key=FnyqbV6Dhy4*NgmzgGhbJg((', function(data){
var type = [], meta = [];
for(var i=0; i<data.items.length; i++) {
  var item = data.items[i];
  type[item.site_type] = (type[item.site_type] ||0) + 1;
  if (item.site_type === 'meta_site') {
  meta.push(item);
  }
}
console.log(type);
console.log(meta);
function fetchPosts(page) {
  $.get('https://api.stackexchange.com/2.2/users/620/network-activity?pagesize=100&fromdate=1546128000&filter=!*LYih5k7LckYRb1e&&key=FnyqbV6Dhy4*NgmzgGhbJg((&page=' + page, function(dat…

Shadow Wizard

12:56 PM

@rene ouch. But it should return some "back off" value, no? So you know how much to wait before next call?

@rene ohhh.... I was thinking more of screen scraping the search results of se.com, not using the API for that.

rene

2:58 PM

@ShadowWizard yeah, tried to stay safe by calling once every 10 seconds but I was hammering on other end-points as well to see if I could more easily get that data and I had to diagnose what I believe is a paging bug.

Shadow Wizard

hmm...

rene

@ShadowWizard scraping would require navigating, that would be come pretty complex as well.

Shadow Wizard

@rene not with jQuery ;)

rene

You give that a go then :)

Shadow Wizard

3:35 PM

:D

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2018: a year in moderation