Probably unproductive, but better to rant here than in an MSE post:
I am still 100% pissed about the ISE HNQ ban
Seriously, what the actual fuck motivated? Some angry feminist objects to men wanting to discuss how to avoid uncomfortable sexual encounters, and SE just
obediently says "yeah, we agree it's appallingly offensive for men to not pliantly submit to any female sexual attention, we'll immediately ban any community that permits discussion of this topic"
So, what's going on with that anyway? I only have a very vague idea, but...IPS.SE got removed from the Hot Network Questions because of some comment on Twitter?
like, i already have an extremely dim view of feminism, but it's depressing to me that it's seen as sufficiently outrageous and offensive for a man to want to diplomatically avoid unwanted sexual attention from his students that even allowing such a man to ask about how to do so apparently warrants a network-wide ban of the site that permitted the question
@SilverWolf Sonic asked a question on ISE about how to deter his female pupils from flirting with him
From what I've heard about it, to me, it sounds like the question isn't the problem, it's that the titles of many questions there can be taken wrong out of context.
@SilverWolf that's pretty much what I mean :P. As for whether a "regular feminist" is meaningfully different... I'll leave that for you to judge. Mostly, I think no. But I've but some I find principled and worthy of respect
and the fact that, because it's leftist bigotry, it will go unremarked upon
if anyone had said "ban this site! it lets the gays talk about gay-related things!" and the staff had complied, it'd be a media-outrage-attracting controversy
but when the ideological thesis behind the ban is "men should not be allowed to talk about unwanted female sexual attention that makes them uncomfortable", apparently that's... just fine?
You might want to just, take a second, and sort of get some perspective. All they did was remove one site from the HNQ section because it didn't fit with Stack Overflow's topicality. Really, almost none of the HNQ fits there. It should be split on entertainment versus not entertainment.
Meh, you can read it like that, but HNQ has had a long history of problems with linking to other sites. IPS just sort of pushed the bounds until this final straw.
maybe I'm too cynical, but I think that's ass-covering and don't expect them to even read the responses
I'm just kind of resigned to SE-the-company being uncritically on board with the feminists at this point
I totally agree that HNQ has been problematic for a long time
But I don't see this changing anything for the better
user194636
The discussion about HNQ is all a bit of a distraction from the original point: The unilateral removal of IPS from HNQ without consultation, apparently prompted by a tweet.
If the HNQ is really such an influence there, and the site regulars are that aware of its activity, I would strongly posit that the system is being gamed.
user194636
11:09 PM
The meta question about HNQ came about only because the issue kinda blew up amongst the network moderators.
The understandable frustration comes from a tweet provoking immediate action without consultation, whereas community ideas for change with solid meta backing get no traction.
The only way to get users is to radically upvote posts into the hot network list is "the only means of gaining users"? That site shouldn't exist at that point.