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Tiny Giant

9:00 PM

Now I want to know what would happen if everyone vtc'ed migrate to google.

rene

Google would reject those and sent all their other crap to us...

bjb568

@rene @bummi @hichris @nicael @Braiam Help us now, we have a noble cause!

-5

Q: usage of destroy method in gallery plugin

I was just debugging a gallery plugin and basically came across the following function, its basically a destroy method that takes off all the event handlers in the plugin. destroy : function() { this.$navPrev.off('.gallery'); this.$navNext.off('.gallery'); this.$wrapper.off('.gall...

This needs 2 more non-SE migration votes.

Tiny Giant

awwe damn, someone cv-ed for a legitimate reason

rene

Thankfully I'm out of CV...

bjb568

@TinyGiant It can still work, we only need majority.

nicael

9:04 PM

@bjb568 it won't work

I tried with bunch o socks

Some months ago

bjb568

You got socks with 3k? :o

bummi

@bjb568 you won't get me for crooked actions

Tiny Giant

nooooo now two legitimate reasons

bjb568

@nicael What happens?

We just need one more!

rene

@bummi that makes 2...

@bjb568 meta.stackexchange.com/a/187301/158100 last vote wins

bummi

9:06 PM

o/

nicael

@bjb568 After the fifth vote, you can vote still; every next vote will seem to be fail with error, but the votes counter gets incremented

bjb568

Huh.

Tiny Giant

we just need one more

bjb568

But what happens if you migrate it to yahoo answers? We must find out!

hichris123

@bjb568 Do you people have actual stuff to do, or...?

bjb568

9:07 PM

Have you voted @nicael?

@hichris123 not really

Tiny Giant

@hichris123 no

bjb568

Pleeeeeeeeeeease?

Just one vote for answers.yahoo.com?

rene

@nicael You break stuff and now you start reporting stuff that only effects your already borked client-state?

hichris123

..... it doesn't matter... you need 4 votes to migrate.

Doorknob

@hichris123 We all know the answer to that.

hichris123

9:08 PM

@Doorknob Lemme rephrase that then: find something to do. :P

nicael

@rene no. Bjb asked, I answered.

bjb568

@hichris123 aww…

hichris123

Go outside. It's nice.

Doorknob

@hichris123 That's... what they're doing. Better rephrasal: "go outside"?

hichris123

It's not raining. Hopefully.

Doorknob

9:09 PM

oh you beat me to it :P

rene

It is dark outside

Tiny Giant

I'm not allowed to go outside :(

hichris123

@rene well then go into the quasi-inside-outside state wherein it is light even at night.

rene

confused

hichris123

Make the sun shine at night, @rene. You can do it. I believe in you.

vaultah

9:10 PM

@rene sure, will do

rene

@vaultah tnx

nicael

@rene And actually not client state. That's sever side - if you with some company of ten would vote to migrate to any invalid path, you'll get 10 recorded votes and no real outcome, unless you migrate with valid path or valid reason.

Tiny Giant

Or move to nunavut. I hear its sunny all the time this time of year

rene

@nicael what a mess...

nicael

@bjb568 on what?

@rene you don't get it?

bjb568

9:12 PM

@nicael this

to answers.yahoo.com

rene

@nicael Yes, I get it. I write that kind of stuff for a living

nicael

No :D I ve unfortunately already chosen primarily opinion based

:o

@bjb

pong

9:14 PM

it still only has 4 votes

nicael

Ugh Google keyboard lagging

switches to Samsung one

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why is Azula's fire blue? by ean_1 on scifi.stackexchange.com

Tiny Giant

Anyone else see this issue? Sometimes when I search for something in chrome's magical search box, google shows up for half a second then just disappears until I refresh the page. I was thinking it might be an extension/plugin but I only have the auto-comment plugin installed, and removing it doesn't fix the issue.

rene

@SmokeDetector ignore- shit

Doorknob

@rene (an accurate description of that answer, incidentally)

rene

9:18 PM

@Doorknob On Anime and scifi I have that for almost all posts...

user259867

It's somehow not obvious what will happen to Google's own issue trackers within Google Code. Like Apps Script for example... I just answered a question referring to an open issue there, and didn't see any obvious signs of the thing being migrated.

rene

@3дравыйСмысл We have some known issues with hg repositories.

It says for me at the top bar

hichris123

@3дравыйСмысл No one knows. Chrome's bug tracker is on Google Code and I haven't seen anything about a migration plan or anything.

user259867

I can only conclude that both Apps Script and Chrome are also planned for retirement. The rumors are true

rene

I'm out ... need sleep..

bjb568

9:28 PM

answers.google.com/answers

huh

nicael

What "huh" :D

It doesn't accept questions for pretty long time already.

Months if not years.

bjb568

Years.

I didn't know it existed.

Tiny Giant

I didn't either

nicael

Lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Why swearing is forbidden? by niggeritis on islam.stackexchange.com

Tiny Giant

9:32 PM

I wonder what will happen to android once webkit-for-wayland is finished blogs.igalia.com/zdobersek/2014/12/09/…

nicael

In fact, I don't recall them accepting answers at all :D

user259867

9:42 PM

On Wikipedia, I went from Google Answers to Google Questions and Answers, which was launched in 2007 in Russian, after the shutdown of answers.google.com

user259867

Still exist at otvety.google.ru/otvety but ... was shut down too. On the 30th of April of unspecified year.

user259867

In that case, the content isn't available. Search leads to topics which redirect to the main page.

user259867

Same with google.com/baraza/en but at least the date there is more specific: 30th of April, 2015.

user259867

Oh, knol, "a unit of knowledge"? I remember that one. knol.google.com

santiago

lol @nicael is funny (ish)

Tiny Giant

9:54 PM

I've lost my mind, and I can't seem to find it anywhere. Have you seen it?

santiago

@nicael probably hacked your mind and found and exploited a bug

Tiny Giant

Maybe he migrated it to meta.se

santiago

or migrated it out

Tiny Giant

damn, where did he put it?

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@TinyGiant It's Doorknob's fault.

Tiny Giant

10:00 PM

@santiago apparently nicael had nothing to do with it

santiago

well, I'll be darned!

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector :(

santiago

lol

nicael

@santiago sharps the poking stick

Frigging autocomplete :D

santiago

i am immune to an online poking stick

Tiny Giant

10:11 PM

Doorknob, where'd you put my mind?

santiago

@nicael a bug!

nicael

@TinyGiant he must have doorknobed it right to the recycle bin - they have such a habit.

Tiny Giant

Now I'm never going to be able to find it :( I guess I'll just have to get used to being crazy

santiago

I still suspect @nicael - found an exploit to take @TinyGiant's mind and blame @Doorknob

nicael

@santiago sharps the material poking stick

santiago

10:14 PM

Don't fear going crazy, enjoy every moment of it

Tiny Giant

That's two bugs in one, wow

The jokes on whoever did steal it. It was a fake anyways. I've never had one

nicael

@TinyGiant That looks like a bug.

santiago

@nicael so do you

nicael

Great. And who are you?

@San

santiago

i am me

nicael

10:16 PM

That's a bug.

Tiny Giant

I, however, am not me

nicael

@santiago You should be fixed!

Tiny Giant

@nicael Why not static or absolute?

nicael

Wot?

santiago

lol

good luck trying to fix me

bjb568

10:17 PM

Learn CSS.

Tiny Giant

I, personally, like to be relative

nicael

@TinyGiant :D I got it!

Tiny Giant

@nicael Congratulations! ... What was it?

nicael

santiago {position:fixed }

@TinyGiant a bug.

Tiny Giant

Quick! Without looking, define "is"

santiago

10:19 PM

santiago {position:somewhere}

nicael

You'll become a error. There's no such position available.

bjb568

*warning

santiago

lol

Tiny Giant

CSS doesn't have errors, it just has failures

nicael

O.o

bjb568

10:21 PM

@TinyGiant … like ur mom

nicael

o.O

Tiny Giant

My mom is dead

2

nicael

O.O

bjb568

ohkay

moving on…

santiago

sheesh

Tiny Giant

10:23 PM

lol, just wanted to see the reaction, my mom is still alive and actually has lots of errors

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santiago

not nice

Tiny Giant

neither is your mom jokes

nicael

@TinyGiant report her...

Tiny Giant

No, she doesnt have any bugs, she likes to keep clean

nicael

-.O

ᔕᖺᘎᕊ

10:25 PM

lol

santiago

well, I can barely walk properly with calipers

nicael

Anyway she must have crashed. How's she still alive?

She's an exception

:D

@nicael is an error

10:27 PM

No, he's an exception as well

santiago

there are no bugs, @nicael is the bug

nicael

@santiago wait what? You are contradicting yourself!

Tiny Giant

must be a bug

nicael

Report me then, what are you waiting for?

Tiny Giant

No santiago is the bug, you're an exception

And I'm... relative

nicael

10:30 PM

o.O messsssss

santiago

lol

nicael

@TinyGiant what to do with me then?

santiago

bahahahahaha

Tiny Giant

Well we would have to catch you before we could do anything

And I think we're to naive for that

nicael

Ooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh

Tiny Giant

10:31 PM

So you just go on being an uncaught exception, until you cause an error

nicael

CATCH ME CATCH ME CATCH ME runs away

Tiny Giant

I didn't try first though

santiago

@TinyGiant cause an error....lol

Tiny Giant

So I don't even know that you exist

or could even possibly exist

nicael

So what's when I cause an error? Y'all crash!!!

Tiny Giant

10:34 PM

Everything comes crashing down and the server catches on fire

And why fire?

halt and catch fire

-1

A: How to manipulate and represent binary numbers in C++

The answer lies in the question my kind sir.. To do this, you must look within, and then without, and you will find that which is required to succeed in your programming journeys and ventures.

bjb568

Yay, 60ms load time (440 lines) ^^

nicael

10:37 PM

@TinyGiant ye crash, so who actually does that?

@nicael Doorknob

yes?

no

maybe

@bjb568 minification.

bjb568

10:38 PM

What about it?

hichris123

minify.

bummi

blacklist candidate beerm-ksa.com
spam http://android.stackexchange.com/a/112974/39544 two answers

nicael

@Door You go and extinguish fire caused by all them

bjb568

Oh, I mean the highlighted code is 440 lines. The highlighter is 450 lines.

2

There's the highlighter on itself.

nicael

Fine blackboard :D

Tiny Giant

10:46 PM

dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/nicael

nicael

@TinyGiant you should totally drop that and use jQuery.

Tiny Giant

Lolz, I would like to see jQuery replace all your bits with random bits

user259867

> Programs must be written for people to read, and only incidentally for machines to execute.

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user259867

timehop One year ago today Feedback requested: New "recommended" homepage, phase 1 by David Fullerton on meta.stackoverflow.com

bjb568

agh, Ralf is russian now!

nicael

10:49 PM

?

bjb568

Oh, hi @anna You see the migration bug? :D

Tiny Giant

@nicael ?

bjb568

@TinyGiant ?

nicael

@Anna has you fixed that bug?

Anna Lear

Oh hi. Y'all know that if you keep exploiting bugs, you're gonna get a suspension coming, right?

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bjb568

10:49 PM

aww

Tiny Giant

I had nothing to do with it

bjb568

How are we supposed to find them then?

Anna Lear

Yes, that needs to be fixed. No, the fact that it's not fixed yet isn't a license to keep exploiting it.

@bjb568 It's been found. Now stop.

2

bjb568

I only did it twice.

Anna Lear

I'm just coming here with a warning.

2

bjb568

10:51 PM

ohkay

Anna Lear

So there's no surprises next time.

If there's a next time.

I appreciate y'all finding bugs, I do. But you find them once, report them, and then move on to finding something else. :P

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bjb568

feels like now isn't a good time for a ur mom joke

Anna Lear

Anyway, that's my PSA for today. How's everyone doing this fine weekend?

nicael

@AnnaLear Hey, stop being @Shog :D

user259867

Fine, fine. Closing and deleting as usual.

nicael

10:54 PM

Anyway I mean the edx bug

Doorknob

2 hours ago, by Tiny Giant

@bjb568 That's hilarious. Voted to move to cr

bjb568

@AnnaLear Great, I will hopefully finish my syntax highlighter today and move on with my plans to put SE out of business!

Doorknob

@TinyGiant What happened to that?

user259867

@bjb568 Yes, SE will go the way of Google Answers...

Anna Lear

@nicael Haven't had a chance to look. It's hard to reproduce from the office since I can still see the full site from an internal IP :)

bjb568

10:55 PM

And DevDoodle will be victorious!

nicael

@AnnaLear and proxy?

Just what if?

Anna Lear

Aha, yeah, I have a repro. This is weird.

bummi

@3дравыйСмысл Instinct seems to be working removed on SU (incl. User) still standing on serverfault serverfault.com/q/700447/185961 , but flagging as suspected spam seed will not succeed ?

Anna Lear

Sort of makes sense, since some people (read: employees) can log in...

user259867

@bummi It's totally off-topic and I flagged it as such long time ago. Still 0 close votes. That's SF community moderation as we know it...

user259867

11:00 PM

Flagging as VLQ may be better, then it gets through to a mod who will hopefully click delete

Anna Lear

@nicael I don't think there's anything to fix there with edx-cs169-1x. The login page being open is by design - to allow employees access. We could lock it down further, but it's a moot point since everything redirects to A51. I don't care about that 404ing since this was an experimental site.

bummi

@3дравыйСмысл no need for further action from me so ... an OTHER explaining the suspect and actions take on SU won't help to, I suspect

user259867

@bummi I don't know, mod flag could help but I don't see the need when the question is so obviously OT. The should just close and delete as other such things.

Anna Lear

Oh wait, forgot about being to see individual questions. Meh. Whatever. It still doesn't matter that much.

user259867

Curious non-coincidence: compare the timing.

user259867

11:04 PM

I disagree with front page being representative of something important. On a slow site, it's a bunch of questions bumped by Community or by the since-deleted non-answers posted under them. The non-answers do correlate with the sort of questions on which anonymous visitors land (since they are the ones posting them), but this is a round about way to identify those. Also, if a problem with review is an exceedingly small number of participants, then wouldn't the same apply to any meta discussion? If the main site's relevance is in question, its meta is going to be in thick layers of dust. — 3дравый Смысл 5 hours ago

user259867

> Tip for conflict avoidance #64738 - never ever begin a sentence with "I disagree", repeat what you heard as you understood it instead. -- Tim Post at 12:25 PM - 20 Jun 2015 via Twitter

bummi

@3дравыйСмысл maybe :) I just love spammers get nuked

user259867

> @aalear I was inspired by a random comment on meta that wasn't written by you. Now that you've outed yourself, what did you do? -- Tim Post at 12:27 PM - 20 Jun 2015 via Twitter

nicael

@AnnaLear no, meta.stackexchange.com/questions/231208/…

Anna Lear

2 mins ago, by Anna Lear

Oh wait, forgot about being to see individual questions. Meh. Whatever. It still doesn't matter that much.

I'll try to remember to at least figure out why, but this is about as low priority as it gets :)

nicael

11:06 PM

Lol. Okay.

Doorknob

sd tpu-rude/abusive

user259867

@AnnaLear Why try to remember, isn't there an issue tracker with priority setting?...

user259867

@SmokeDetector gone

Anna Lear

@3дравыйСмысл Hahahahahahahahaha. ahem We have a [bug] dashboard that pulls in stuff from the network metas but we aren't really very process-focused beyond that. There's no bug tracker with priorities.

user259867

Well, that explains things.

nicael

11:09 PM

goes hijacking the bug dashboard

Anna Lear

@nicael wait, I thought that's what you've been doing so far? :P

@3дравыйСмысл we loosely priorities by upvotes and severity. "I don't like this sentence" is not very important, "I can't post answers" is.

nicael

What? Does your dashboard represent all the bugs reported or the ones you are perfectly aware about and waiting for them to be reported? :D

user259867

Duly noted. I can't post answers until the posting dialog has proper punctuation.

Anna Lear

@3дравыйСмысл That sounds like a personal problem. ;)

user259867

in CoGro Musings, 7 hours ago, by Tim Post

A waxing crescent moon rising in the far east seems to bring out an enormous amount of crazy on our sites from all over the world, making a note to look into that.

nicael

11:12 PM

@3дравыйСмысл You should be fixed. Help, Anna!

Tiny Giant

@nicael Why not relative?

nicael

That's dangerous.

Tiny Giant

So is life

Braiam

Life is dangerous, then is better to be inside.

Tiny Giant

I wonder what the difference of relative probability of encountering danger is between inside and outside

I'm betting its 42

user259867

11:31 PM

@SmokeDetector tpu-spam

user259867

@SmokeDetector gone

bjb568

I figured out I can hide in a sheet bubble inflated by the air vent next to my bed.

Tiny Giant

I do that to warm my blanket up when it's -30*c outside

santiago

some people just fart

Tiny Giant

I do that too but it doesn't help much at that temperature... and the wife doesn't like it as much

bummi

11:36 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/27580741/1699210

santiago

don't light a match

Tiny Giant

I did that once and lit the wall on fire

user259867

Compare:

user259867

The update has been delayed a bit due to some (awesome?) new projects we're currently working on. But I'll do my best to do it asap. — Stéphane Martin Jun 15 at 15:49

user259867

I'm currently working on an icon set for a next project

user259867

11:38 PM