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user202362

12:02 AM

I have been thinking ...

user202362

it's good idea for you to gather more toys ...

user202362

so when you are done with playing with my account, could you un-lag the chat on my iphone, pretty please

SmokeDetector

2:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: Plastic rims and brake pads by manufacture on bicycles.stackexchange.com

qwer

3:08 AM

@Telkitty gather more keys instead to prevent accidental DV ...

@SmokeDetector r00d

SmokeDetector

3:29 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Is there a word in English for a man who leaves his pregnant wife and child? by AiEngineer on english.stackexchange.com

user315433

I suspect this question will generate a few reports for Smokey...

user315433

Those trying to answer in a comment are setting themselves up for a comment auto-nuke....

SmokeDetector

4:13 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: 5 Effects Of Alcohol On Muscle Growth by Jxszsloi on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

qwer

@SmokeDetector huh, I just know there's "repeated URL at end of long post" category...

user315433

@qwer Caught 2331 posts with 99.96% accuracy, metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/dashboard

user315433

Which simply means there was 1 false positive in those 2331.

qwer

Nice. I'm curious if there's a spam with this reason only... (not sure I can search this on metasmoke)

user315433

I'd expect it is all caught by link-at-end as well. It's an additional reason to boost confidence in the report being accurate.

user315433

4:24 AM

By the way, that false positive occurred 8 hours ago, when someone posted on SO with a pastebin link. The reason had a perfect record until then.

qwer

I see

user315433

Was 2328/2328, and then the 2329th one was an FP. :(

SmokeDetector

4:35 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, link following arrow in body, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title, repeated URL at end of long post: newmusclesupplements.com/alpha-prime-elite/ by Markmartinez on drupal.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

4:49 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Cut Off Your Weight Naturally by darefewfyl on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title: www.mylaviveeyeserum.com/gainxt-and-virilax/ by berthahenn on apple.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, repeated URL at end of long post: The product is affordable by rchnerjuri on gaming.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body, repeated URL at end of long post: Reaction Male Enhancement brings foolish people down? by hizaarmenan on security.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: In Bed And Permanently Increase manhood Size by freemanjorns on superuser.com

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body: Skin Care Tips: Nurturing Cuticles In Winter by Ghusoonyu on apple.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

5:15 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] URL in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, blacklisted website in title, link at end of body: anradrol.com/reaction-male-enhancement/ by Charleoss on drupal.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

5:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: Does a blood transfusion cure disease? by nancy on biology.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

6:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Exactly how does HL12 function? by leohorton on superuser.com

Shadow Wizard

7:37 AM

@Bart I disagree

so the ice cream goes to you!

Wasn't easy to find, but think @Bart will enjoy this one:

oh BTW just curious, @zaq and @qwer you don't plan to change your names anymore? Are those your final incarnations? ;)

qwer

I'm waiting for zaq's idea...

Shadow Wizard

@qwer why won't you be the first for a change? :D

So @qwer you're a Follower of @Norm? :)

qwer

kind of? :O

Shadow Wizard

hehe

All good, @Doorknob also had a follower, though that was more of a stalker... were you around when they were both active?

That was funny...

That said... where is dear @Door? :/

user202362

8:13 AM

@qwer I could take bring devices with me, but usually I take this phone ... and it's the only one on which the chat doesn't load

user202362

also I took some underwater videos with the new cam, but they are all shaky

user202362

I am getting dizzy watching them on my PC

user202362

also how do I gather more keys?

Derpy

8:38 AM

@Telkitty usually, they pop out when you kill all the enemies in a room, lit all torches or move a block... Have you tried looking at your map for clues? Provided you got the compass you should be able to see the room that still contains keys.

Stijn

ugh, a bit of fog and suddenly people forget how to drive

morning commute took 35 instead of 25 minutes and most of it is on a highway

TrEs-2b

Howdy, I'm from Worldbuilding. What do I do when the Room Owners in chat abuse their power?

Stijn

@TrEs-2b Post on your Meta site. But before you do so, you should be very sure of your case. If people find out you omit information, you'll get loads of downvotes.

Bart

8:56 AM

And keep in mind there may be rules for a room @TrEs-2b. If so, make sure you've familiarized yourself with those.

Derpy

@Bart repeat after me: "Room culture is a lie. A room can't override the Be Nice policy Stack Exchange defined for the whole network"

Bart

Not at all what I was implying.

A chatroom can be limited to certain topics, could exclude topics you my logically find within scope, etc. etc.

Derpy

@Bart oh, don't worry. I just added that note to avoid easily misguided users that may read that message getting even more misguided

user202362

@qwer the DV you mentioned must be some inside joke ...

qwer

282

A: Should 'drive by' downvoting be more effectively caught?

The answer was down voted because I lost my keys. Please, stay with me, let me explain this odd chain of events. Earlier today I couldn't get to the store on time because I could not find my keys. That caused me to miss the opportunity to run over a golf ball, which would have bounced between a...

Derpy

9:07 AM

@ShadowWizard Whiskas and whipped cream? that seems more something @bjb568 would like.

user202362

I am sure if it's that easy I wouldn't be the only one complaining about it ...

Derpy

@qwer this one was added in the comments.

What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong!

Sometime I wonder if it fits more the question or the answer....

Bart

in The Factory Floor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 43 mins ago, by Shog9

@TrEs-2b, you're suspended for the night because I'm trying to sleep and you thought it was a good idea to take this stupid argument to the comment thread on meta.

That went well then

Stijn

Isn't it the middle of the night for Shog?

Bart

Probably

MSE still says "Stack Exchange Inc" in the footer. Is that correct? Wasn't it all Stack Overflow now?

Stijn

9:22 AM

@Bart I think that's what they ended up with, yeah

We're Changing Our Name (Back) to Stack Overflow

Jay Hanlon on September 15, 2015

We are Stack Overflow. You may know us from such popular websites as Stack Overflow Q&A, Stack Overflow Careers, The Stack Exchange Q&A Network, and most of your Google search results.

Even their legal text isn't updated

@DavidFullerton Is the official legal name still Stack Exchange Inc? — Stijn 9 secs ago

I'm not sure but it reads like changing the name costs too much money?

Derpy

10:12 AM

@Bart IMHO Very very very weird discussion that has been handled somehow poorly by both sides. Based on the messages showed here it seems that there were indeed some post that could be considered offensive.

That said, instead than mass-moving all the post in a way that can be exploited and presented as a max censoring of politics ideas it would be probably be wiser to handle the offenses separately and then moving the discussion to a separate room as off-topic

Stijn

10:37 AM

Straight from the horses mouth (@Google HQ): you can finally search for special characters like @ and / in Google! https://t.co/Xf71Sg9dWA

Tweeted by henkvaness on January 24, 2017 at 7:30 AM

Derpy

11:06 AM

@Stijn flagged as offensive for ponies. -_-

> Noli equi dentes inspicere donati

it is rude to look in the mouth of your horse. Google should know better.

Bart

It has to be a gift horse though.

Derpy

11:26 AM

@Bart ain't us a gift to the room?

Let's praise overlord Faust for the gift of ponies.

....

.........

ooooook, will stop there :P

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Set Network Proxy Linux by Khurshid on superuser.com

user202362

11:41 AM

@Derpy only when you became a toy - so ... have you been (ab)used lately?

Derpy

@telkitty's Answer Treasure Hunt Map:
Go north ten post. When you find the joke that was sent to Stijn, the answer you seek is under your nose.

Shadow Wizard

12:47 PM

@Telkitty we are all being used... By SE... ;)

user202362

1:21 PM

I wish abuseful is a real word ...

qwer

Did you mean: abusive?

user202362

is usive a word? :p

user202362

I mean, if you are being used, you are useful. But if you are being abused, you are not abuseful ...

qwer

Ah, abuser and abusee...

run away

Bart

inb4 tchrist develops an aneurysm from this discussion

qwer

1:35 PM

Abusee is a real word..!?

Bart

Yup

Stijn

Sweet dreams are made of this...

Bart

Who am I to abusee? ... no wait ...

user202362

once I wished someone 'sweat dreams' ...

Bart

What did they say? "Drop the knife please"?

user315433

2:20 PM

@Bart The legal name is Stack Exchange. Stack Overflow is the name by which they want to be known in public, that's all. (Source: Adam Lear, a while back)

Bart

That is not confusing at all

user315433

"Stack Exchange, Inc" is to "Stack Overflow" like "Richard Starkey" is to "Ringo Starr".

Bart

A mediocre drummer?

user315433

Except that Ringo/Richard has over a hundred websites he's running, which are collectively known as "Richard Starkey network", and prefers to keep them named that way.

Stijn

2:41 PM

dependency injection becomes very annoying when you want to add a dependency to a base class that is inherited by 20+ other classes

oh and after doing that, you have to update all unit tests as well

/cry

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Switching/multiplexing RS232 signal lines by Dreiden Filkas on electronics.stackexchange.com

qwer

@SmokeDetector why

SmokeDetector

@qwer Post - Bad keyword eltima and body length under 750 chars

Bart

Doesn't look like spam to me

qwer

The difference in writing between his answer on SO/SU with this is confusing

Bart

2:55 PM

I think I know why

8

A: Org - show checkboxes in Agenda?

View the EntryText in Agenda view by pressing "v" then "E". You cannot interact with the checkboxes, but you can view them this way. Alternatively, "follow mode" (press "F" in Agenda view) might also help you get what you want. The checkboxes won't be in the Agenda, but you have easy access to ...

His other answer is pretty much a copy of

5

A: How to add wireless profiles during deployment via MDT

Perhaps you could try exporting the profiles according to linked process and the running the exported executable during a task sequence upon deployment. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/4081/easily-backup-import-your-wireless-network-settings-in-windows-7/ There's also a command line option to ex...

I've flagged the user

qwer

Nice

user315433

in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Apr 7 '16 at 21:48, by Seth

Yes, eltima spammers play a deep game.

qwer

> Dreiden.Filkas - I work with the site, had downloaded software recently. Everything's fine. You may trust the site! --- WOT page

yeah right

Bart

3:14 PM

Amazing ... 1 year and 4 months on SO ...

user315433

Yes. I initially spamflagged the EE post but had second thoughts after seeing the SO/SU history and retracted. Alas. :(

qwer

Those 4 upvotes on SO and 2 on SU though (especially the SO one)

user315433

It's not so hard to score upvotes on plagiarized content.

user315433

There must have been another SO post, now deleted, since the rep does not match the answer score.

Bart

-2 could have come before the +4.

That would explain 41

Pandya

3:31 PM

I think the questions are filtered through frequent tab based on linked. Right?

qwer

Which questions? Oh, the 'frequent' questions.

Bart

16

Q: What's the 'Frequent' sort function?

What is the function of the 'Frequent' sorting option on the Questions tab?

Derpy

@Bart much simpler than that. You live in Germany. That 41 is just an UTC 42.

Bart

I live in Germany? Since when?

Derpy

@Bart Stack rule #42: all users will be assumed to be genderless and to live in the default location for their most probable nationality :P

Bart

3:43 PM

@rene ... he's telling me I'm most probably German

Pandya

@Bart ok. Thanks. Btw, just want to know "do you like pings or not?"

Bart

Ping when absolutely needed. Then you should be fine.

Pandya

ok. I've found you don't use ping mostly that's why asked.

Btw, it may be difficult to predict when it will be qualified as "absolutely needed"! Haha

Bart

I generally assume that when I respond directly after a message, you'll read it at some point. No need to poke users all the time with a notification

If you don't know whether or not it's "absolutely needed", it probably isn't. ;)

Derpy

WHY is this a Window's feature in the first place?!?

qwer

3:54 PM

So, that's the usage of ScrollLock...

user315433

To stop a program's output from scrolling without stopping the program itself.

user315433

For more details, ask Steven Chu

rene

@Bart Well, to be honest, I consider everything east of Amersfoort to be Germany so .... that would fit ...

Bart

@rene ... you bastard

rene

yw

Maybe I should have included the Kroon Domeinen but meh ... you can have it

Derpy

4:09 PM

so... wait a second.... You mean that Netherlands being mostly under sea level is to be blamed on Bart living there?

Shog9

@Derpy debugging, as the page itself describes.

Bart

@Derpy wrong again ... don't live there either. :p

Derpy

@Shog9 Yep, I know. But I also know that it will be used to prank co-workers too :P

Shog9

Eh...

Derpy

Somehow, I was hoping you could configure that to crash the system whenever ctrl+v was used....

Would have helped in the fight to put an end to "code reuse"

@Bart seems there were 196 countries in the world at the end of 2016. I have now successfully discarded two. Soon, we will discover your address and send you a brain-washing pony plush as a present. Resistance is futile.

Bart

4:19 PM

Check my profile and you'll know ;)

Derpy

@Bart I assumed it was just a sequence of random emoji to annoy Patrick. But anyway, that would be too easy :P

Jason C

5:03 PM

Why is my edit link disabled for cooking.stackexchange.com/questions/77733/burgers-that-bleed?

rene

@JasonC pending edit

Jason C

Oh OK. I guess I can't see that because I dont have review privileges?

Bart

Hover over the edit link

Shadow Wizard

:(

Bart

Nick Craver tweet in 3 ... 2 ...

Shadow Wizard

5:11 PM

boom!

Is it working for anyone else? (might be DNS issue?)

MSO is also down

But other per-site metas are up. Weird.

Shog9

MSO/MSE are like staging areas

Shadow Wizard

So someone made a wrong test?

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@ShadowWizard It's zaq's fault.

Shadow Wizard

I knew it!

user315433

I flagged too many comments at once. :(

SNAFU

5:24 PM

We are aware of issues accessing our meta sites. We are investigating now.

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 24, 2017 at 5:17 PM

jcolebrand

Fortunately, JavaScript has always supported #alternativefacts Math.min() < Math.max() => false

Tweeted by shanselman on January 24, 2017 at 5:11 PM

rene

@zaq yeah, they notice ... :(

user315433

As a penance, I shall be editing a complex HTML table using a text editor that discards the draft without confirmation when ESC is pressed.

SNAFU

Meta sites are back online again. Thanks for your patience! https://twitter.com/StackStatus/status/823942829391101952

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 24, 2017 at 5:26 PM

Bart

Sigh, not one of my finer moments. Remember kids, methods *always* get the parameters, not only when they're needed! https://t.co/4hGjR3aiMo

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on January 24, 2017 at 5:25 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

user315433

5:39 PM

@jcolebrand As a universal statement, that one is false. Math.min(2,2) == Math.max(2,2)

user315433

(This is ignoring the absurdity of comparing methods in the first place. LOL JS genre appears to be scraping the bottom.)

SNAFU

We are having database or network issues on Stack Overflow - investigating now.

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 24, 2017 at 5:40 PM

user315433

Moar trouble, readonly mode

SNAFU

NY-SQL02 is locked up, we are moving services over now.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on January 24, 2017 at 5:44 PM

We are up in read-only mode, restoring read-write shortly and digging into the root cause.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on January 24, 2017 at 5:52 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

Shadow Wizard

6:56 PM

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/41836812/447356

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizard That's N, not K

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. not sure what you mean, but it was spam, user profile had the links.

Promoting some Telegram group or something

M.A.R.

Nope

It was asking for code

Shadow Wizard

@M.A.R. yeah, so that Google search for Telegram group plus some key words will bring up their name and website.

(i.e. the chance the sun will explode now is much higher than the chance this was real request for code)

Mod rightfully nuked the account.

user315433

> Yes, it's possible we lost approximately 3.5 seconds of data due to a rollback during the lockup. -- Nick Craver at 10:00 AM - 24 Jan 2017

user315433

7:09 PM

How do we convert seconds to bytes?

M.A.R.

@zaq Second seems to imperial. So I guess you should just do it like converting feet to meters

@ShadowWizard I don't think Persian spammers are that smart

Jon Ericson

@M.A.R. Nah. It's an SI unit. It's defined by counting cesium atom vibrations.

M.A.R.

@JonEricson So Nick was talking about Cs vibrations in that tweet?

rene

What ever it was, Nick made it vibrate

M.A.R.

@rene Now now, we have 13 year-olds in this chat

I'm not sure though if they have had an experience of vibrating that thing

rene

7:17 PM

That only happens in your mind, not in mine

M.A.R.

@rene Sure, plant sex is boring

rene

All you need is wind

user315433

Marky Mark feat The Funky Bunch - Good Vibrations

►

user315433

Good times, early 90s...

user315433

Contemplating where to place Marky Mark on the Venn diagram

jcolebrand

7:39 PM

@zaq Scott Hanselman is a well known figure in software development circles, especially C#, so it's a joke.

user315433

7:55 PM

I know I shouldn't but I looked at the HTML generated by MS Word from a Word document...

user315433

<td width=155 valign=top style='width:116.4pt;border-top:none;border-left:
  none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;
  padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt;height:51.75pt'>

user315433

Been a while since I saw valign attribute...

rene

@zaq yeah, I think they generate HTML 3.02 so that document can be consumed by any Outlook client?

Shadow Wizard

@rene this sounds nasty!! :D

user315433

Sigh... Our workflow involves me receiving weirdly formatted Word files and trying to create some sensible HTML pages in a CMS that isn't capable of anything other than version control.

Shadow Wizard

8:04 PM

@M.A.R. hey, it's not nice to underestimate your own people! ;)

rene

@ShadowWizard Only in your imagination

Shadow Wizard

@zaq sounds like fun... at least you got this automated?

@rene well, that's a big place.....

user315433

Kind of hard with Word files being weird in a different way each time.

Shadow Wizard

@zaq no code that can just extract raw text from Word files? It can't be that hard.... or can it?

@M.A.R. guess you'll never know.... :P

user315433

I copy-paste tables from MS Word into Google Sheets (which is capable of both accepting heavily formatted content and producing not-ridiculously formatted content). Then generate HTML with spreadsheet functions....

user315433

8:09 PM

There are also content-wise things I can't tolerate, like using Mr. X and Ms. Y in people lists.

Shadow Wizard

Here's the actual bugcheck dump entry. Unfortunately, this dump never completed. We'll spin this box down for a mem… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/823962277170860032

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on January 24, 2017 at 6:34 PM in reply to Nick_Craver

So much dump...

user315433

Such bugcheck, much dump.

Shadow Wizard

Something is fishy

@zaq yeah, nice trick. I was introduced into it only couple of weeks ago.

@zaq so how you start formal emails?

Oh, lists... what you mean then?

Table of people where the name got "Mr." or "Ms." in it??

user315433

Yes, that.

Shadow Wizard

Just add a "Gender" column....

user315433

8:18 PM

Yeah, I don't think a gender column is necessary for the list of our graduate students.

Jon Ericson

@ShadowWizard Not a one-to-one relationship.

Shadow Wizard

@JonEricson there can be more than two choices.... and it's editable if it change at some point. :)

And better than "Mr." or "Ms." only...

@zaq why not? It's common here in student lists. (I develop a website handling such lists, gender is integral part.)

Maybe because in Hebrew you have to write different words when addressing each gender so it's more crucial...

i.e. in Hebrew "Dear Joe" and "Dear Jenny" the "Dear" will be different for Joe and Jenny.

Jon Ericson

Dr. Robinson, Captain Hernandez, and Senator Lee won't appreciate your gender-based assumptions. ;-)

Shadow Wizard

:)

Send them to me!

user315433

10:25 PM

!!/report patents.stackexchange.com/a/17111

Rob

10:47 PM

Doesn't look like it reported?

Ah, smokeys down

user315433

10:58 PM

5K+ views and hundreds of votes on 𝓢𝓱𝓸𝓾𝓵𝓭 𝔽𝕠𝕣𝕞𝕒𝕥𝕥𝕚𝕟𝕘 𝘐𝘯 𝓣𝓲𝓽𝓵𝓮𝓼 𝕭𝖊 🅿🅴🆁🅼🅸🆃🆃🅴🅳?. This should be framed as an canonical meta bikeshed.

user315433

Perhaps Unicode is the bikeshed of 21st century.

Jon Ericson

@zaq Nothing new under the sun.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Mostly non-Latin title: Prove $(𝑛 + 1)^2 + (𝑛 + 2)^2 + (𝑛 + 3)^2 + ⋯+ (2𝑛)^2 = \\frac{𝑛(2𝑛+1)(7𝑛+1)}{6}$ by John on math.stackexchange.com

user315433

Smokey is so on topic. Those are italic Unicode chars, math.stackexchange.com/revisions/2112539/1

user315433

Created by copy-pasting a formula from a PDF generated with LaTeX, I suppose.

user315433

11:11 PM

Nick is angry about Windows Server 2016...

user315433

> > .@dylanvdmerwe Oh and XBox Live Auth Manager, XBox Live Game Service - you know, those critical Windows Server 2016 services everyone wants. -- Nick Craver at 1:32 PM - 24 Jan 2017

user315433

11:50 PM

> I am nominating myself because my brother (who is a mod elsewhere) noticed I had 500 rep and recommended I should. I think I would be a good mod beacuase... raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/election/2#post-60950

user315433

Does "elsewhere" refer to SE? If so, someone should talk to that brother....

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