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12:07 AM

PSA: The flag bot now listens to commands in here, however, they're very very limited. they are stop, restart and listFlagCount. To invoke the bot, do @Quill followed by the command name

EVERYONE in here has the ability to stop the bot, please don't do that unless necessary because I don't want to have to ssh back into my server to start it again

UNIMATRIX 424 GRID 116

Morning tavern

user315433

@Quill If there is restart, why do you have to ssh to it?

UNIMATRIX 424 GRID 116

Things are done rendering

@sandwich because stop literally stops the bot with no restart

user315433

Then what does restart do?

12:12 AM

restarts the bot, incase he turns into a psychomaniac and starts devouring cats

I'm sure smokey has that functionality too

https://t.co/tvC7ebB86S

Tweeted by rossipedia on May 20, 2016 at 11:08 PM

user315433

An insightful tweet. flags as link-only

the staff just want two reasons to drink after work

This is interesting. minbrowser.github.io/min

A browser within a browser!

Too immature for me tho.

user315433

12:28 AM

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^ seeing these on a webpage always brings back the memories...

ur old

UNIMATRIX 424 GRID 116

spam?

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Q: Where to find joomla content source files

I'm having this website on joomla framework http://carhitz.com/ I want to add some new buttons and new divs to different pages of my website but I can't find the source code of individual pages. I know that they're in the components folder with something like com_(something) but I really can't fi...

php joomla joomla2.5 resource-files

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@UNIMATRIX424GRID116 I don't think so, he has multiple questions and stuff

user315433

@UNIMATRIX424GRID116 E-commerce sites also have people building them, and having problems.

user315433

12:38 AM

For a reason I don't understand, Marc Gravell is an owner of Mathematics chatroom

| chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/info/127/the-comms-room

user315433

Looks like back in the days, he was an owner of every "main" room. I guess being user #1 in chat.SE has to do with it. chat.stackexchange.com/users/1

yeah... that'd make sense

wat

looks like some testing got out of hand <_<

user315433

I don't normally hang out in math chatroom, but at a glance, it appears to have higher quality content than the main site.

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T'ain't sayin' much.

12:44 AM

because they don't have homework in the chatroom?

user315433

Because it's easier to kick out of chat?

We need a kick functionality on the main site.

there is already one... you just don't have access to it ;)

user315433

Aaron Meurer (re)-started a debate with the blog post Moving Away from Python 2.

user315433

(Which is not about "moving away from Python, part 2", as I originally read it.)

user315433

12:50 AM

I kept running into him on SO when answering sympy questions; turned out he's the lead developer.

@Quill Well, that's the problem, right there.

feel free to accumulate legendary-status rep on Math and then run for mod @bjb, no stopping you

:p

1:17 AM

it's wonder posts like these took so long to close: Official Programming Languages at Google (closed)

1:40 AM

[ FireStarter ] A message in C# Chat Gaming was flagged.

@Me it's a locked room... goddamn

[ FireStarter ] A message in Ask Ubuntu General Room was flagged.

It's our friend from Charcoal again it seems

user315433

2:01 AM

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A: Was GMail hacked?

Within last 20 min (9:30 EST) my Opera browser has flashed a warning about proceeding to gmail or to googledocs. Something is up.

2:11 AM

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ru.SO overtook Unix for #7 by total number of questions.

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I can't even. Can anyone even? @sapphicorb https://t.co/gQ7Ql0XCIX

Tweeted by FakeUnicode on May 21, 2016 at 1:52 AM in reply to sapphicorb

Something for dear @tchrist.

They're always a hoot and a holler.

I am bathing in the great glory of blankets right out of the dryer. Envy me!

user202362

2:30 AM

F&(*&*(%!!! I am flying over to Ayers Rocks tomorrow for a few days holiday, and there was a earthquake there this morning.

user202362

As long as Uluru does not split into two, I am still going to see the biggest rock on earth tomorrow ^_^

Cauchy distribution

The Cauchy distribution, named after Augustin Cauchy, is a continuous probability distribution. It is also known, especially among physicists, as the Lorentz distribution (after Hendrik Lorentz), Cauchy–Lorentz distribution, Lorentz(ian) function, or Breit–Wigner distribution. The Cauchy distribution is often used in statistics as the canonical example of a "pathological" distribution since both its mean and its variance are undefined. (But see the section Explanation of undefined moments below.) The Cauchy distribution does not have finite moments of order greater than or equal to one; onl...

This is really interesting.

user202362

what's so interesting about it?

2:50 AM

There are no moments!

It's because of the difference between an integral and a Cauchy Principle Value.

Also, Dirak Delta.

And it's connected to the T distro.

user315433

And to the Brownian motion. Place a particle in the upper half plane and let it wander randomly until it hits the boundary. Its exit position follows the Cauchy distribution.

3:07 AM

Noice.

user202362

Cauchy distribution not normal distribution?

user315433

3:30 AM

Normal distribution is related to Brownian motion too, but in a different way. It arises if one lets a particle move for some fixed amount of time. The position at the end is normally distributed.

user315433

The time of exit from half-plane is itself random (it depends on where the particle is going), and this changes the distribution of its x-coordinate at the time of exit.

user315433

3:42 AM

I really like the idea of just-in-time help for folks who seem to not be writing in English on the English site (and vice versa -- we actually get English-language questions on the Japanese site from time to time). Close reasons I don't like so much (is this really such a common occurrence that we need a canned reason for it? Especially since I'm sure some well-meaning souls may end up using that to close questions by non-native speakers). — jmac ♦ 2 days ago

user315433

A regex to identify the language used...

user315433

Actually, with Russian wouldn't be too hard. And Japanese, of course.

3:54 AM

I tried to answer some ja.so questions the other day.... so many of them have answers in the comments, and there's missing CV reasons

user202362

@sandwich so cauchy distribution is the distribution of x when Y = y for a random walk in a 2d space, for an example?

@Haney I've added count() and dirxml() methods (repo). I've also added some configuration options requested here, i.e.: allow the console to fill the window, don't autoscroll to the last entry, etc. Here's a demonstation for setting those options: meta.stackexchange.com/a/279495/159427

Presumably, you could just autogenerate that console.config() call (from some new config checkboxes) and insert it in a script immediately following the console include.

I'd rather not require people to call that on their own... it would pollute their snippet source with a magic method.

4:32 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: How to possess beautiful skin by Deangriffi on drupal.stackexchange.com …

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Natural Natual Skin Care by loweruissd on superuser.com …

Also added a config option for timeStamps. Still defaults to true but they can disabled it.

user315433

@Telkitty Yes. that's what it is.

So, there are now four console options: maxEntries, maximize, autoScroll, and timeStamps.... defaulted to 50, false, true, and true, respectively.

they can disable it... god damn it, alcohol. You kill my typing.

4:51 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: There are two associated with sunscreens by Emilymchung on drupal.stackexchange.com …

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[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: Skin Care Tips For Swimmers by jamieoto on gaming.stackexchange.com …

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wtf? :p

5:20 AM

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5:48 AM

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6:29 AM

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7:32 AM

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7:44 AM

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sd 3k

Hi. Where can I find docs about which users can vote on moderator elections on other gold SE sites?

I tried to look at scifi.stackexchange.com/election/4 and meta.scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/election but I couldn't see this particular information listed.

Wait, let me ask this as a proper question?

gold SE sites?

@b_jonas Not many sites have yellow backgrounds

@b_jonas The info is in the page.

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Q: Election privileges missing from privileges page

Previously, there had been an entry in the privileges list page for "Nominate moderators". While that entry was outdated, it is no longer present, and has not been updated or replaced with another entry in the latest changes to the privileges list. Should there be entries in the privilege list ...

feature-request election privileges

@Quill gold means not beta

I think it's called "graduated" officiall

7:56 AM

@b_jonas So graduated you mean

yes

@b_jonas Well, I don't think anyone doesn't recognize "graduated".

meta.stackexchange.com/q/78888/222298 says anyone with 150 rep on the site can vote

Yes.

Mar 14 at 22:01, by 404

@Quill 150 rep is to vote in election. I'm not going to run anywhere. (300 is required to run).

8:02 AM

@B_J I think I remember that info being on the page you vote.

It's weird that it doesn't exist in the archived election page.

@PhMgBr If you can find a permanently accessible source on some authoritive place for this info, eg. on a help page or an answer by an SE developer, please post it to meta.stackexchange.com/q/279497/222298

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8:22 AM

[ [**FireStarter**](https://github.com/The-Quill/SE-Flag-Bot) ] function (message){
return botCore.actions.send(chatDomain, 39270, botPrefix + message);
}

8:48 AM

wtf

Beautiful markdown revealed

beautiful javascript revealed

@Quill I'm not sure about the first word

So you verified: XSS attacks are not possible

somehow it stringified my function

8:52 AM

Did you forget to add () at the end of your function-pointer?

no

Are you running it in NodeJS or in a browser?

node

!!/stop

he doesn't seem to want to stop

Well, the end is near, bots take over

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9:07 AM

@Quill I like your variable naming, tells me something about how you look at us: acceptableUsers

And only 4 users in it ...

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: White heads and bumps form on the spine and areas which take time by user596407 on superuser.com …

technically you have to be special to get on that list, unless you're on MSE in which case you're always acceptable

@Quill Am I special? ʕ ⊃･ ◡ ･ ʔ⊃

Sure, you could say you really left your MARk

:o

Passes out

9:19 AM

@canon did you see this bug report (cc @Haney)

9:32 AM

I fixed that issue now <_<

my flag bot shouldn't stringify that

stackoverflow.com/questions/37361227/…

:D

And deleted by Martijn ...

If they repost that image I'll close vote as no mcve

@Bart for fsck sake

I can only imagine the trouble he went to until he was so fed up that he decided to post that :D

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[ Marvin ] Why do you hate me so?

I took the dramatic part of my bot too far <_<

9:44 AM

"Quill Bot: The angsty teenage years"

he's supposed to be like the character Marvin from Hitchhikers

:D

@LennartRolland allow me to state the obvious: as an English-speaker you benefit from having everything in English, and lose nothing. You already have over 12 million answered questions to be enlightened by, with 8000 more coming in every day. Do you really think the ~300 questions/day that the international sites are getting will somehow destroy the internet? Do you really think the roughly 900 million speakers of PT/RU/ES/JA don't deserve any support in their languages? — jmac ♦ 2 days ago

Oh geez, are we having that BS discussion again?

BS of course meaning "bog standard" in case anyone would think otherwise. :p

Excellent, he's working

9:58 AM

It's alive ... ALIVE!!!!!

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11:41 AM

I wonder whether the devs surf the new uploaded images to se.imgur and play "guess where this is from"

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A: Be proud of tag wikis!

I think in general that UI is a bit overcrowded, and while the features are helpful, they're probably not necessary all on the same bar like that. For example, in the new UI, Votes is already available in the filter button, so we can remove that, Top users and Synonyms are already laid out in a ...

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12:57 PM

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1:34 PM

@rene I've added an answer

OK

sort of the danger of having a console floating around in a fixed position relative to the window

it may cover some stuff up

Yeah, if you add stuff you'll always find there isn't enough screen left to show everything...

1:52 PM

Added some config options too: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/279420/…

2:39 PM

@Quill I don't think they can browse, at least not in any easy way...

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5:00 PM

Nathan For You - Frozen Yogurt

5:38 PM

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Those are some really high grades.

6:04 PM

[ FireStarter ] A message in The Nineteenth Byte was flagged.

6:44 PM

@Quill This is a much better name.

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7:30 PM

@Quill Why jshint over ESLint?

8:16 PM

[ FireStarter ] A message in Electrical Engineering was flagged.

8:36 PM

I just got pundit badge :O

Just checked what comments made me got that badge... all are comments asking clarification on questions... not interesting at all :(

@bjb568 where's jshint?

travis

9:01 PM

I don't understand

@Quill github.com/The-Quill/SE-Flag-Bot/blob/master/Gruntfile.js#L25

Oh, yeah, I don't really know...

I have eslint in all my other repos but I don't have them hooked up to the build tools

user315433

10:10 PM

.@ardaozkal not under that domain, but yes up for work soon. The meta.*.stackexchange.com domains will switch to *.meta.stackexchange.com.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on May 21, 2016 at 9:45 PM in reply to ardaozkal

user315433

An updated timeline for meta cheese shuffle: soon.

Hey! Don't move my cheese!

user315433

There'll be much userscript breakage.

user315433

wtf is Google Spaces, is it any better than Google Tabs?

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user315433

Apparently, MySpace is sufficiently well forgotten that the name can be reused.

10:24 PM

Spaces, Allo, Duo

Google plaything

Next product idea: DevMyTabs

dot eye oh

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Q: How can I prove that this series is bounded?

How can I prove that: $$\frac{7}{12} < \sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{(-1)^{n+1}}{n} < \frac{47}{60}$$ ? I don't even know how to start solving this...

calculus sequences-and-series inequality

Hey! I did this problem in Calc class!

On a related note, those tags don't have enough color contrast.

10:42 PM

@bjb568 s/color//

Same thing.

[ FireStarter ] A message in The h Bar was flagged.

11:21 PM

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