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2:15 AM

writes a script that will every 30 minutes of inactivity ping @user0000000

user0000000

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Yes finally! The Civilization V complete pack is on sale on Steam! Woo!

Waiting always pays off. :)

user0000000

2:33 AM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/24153707/…

@animuson how much? :P

@Braiam $16.49 - store.steampowered.com/sub/36075

3:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA on stats.stackexchange.com

5:07 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/233866/…

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/233865/…

GONE meta.stackexchange.com/questions/233863/how-muscle-up-target

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/26905/…

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/26904/…

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/26902/…

5:36 AM

Morning!

Morning!

Morning!

5:49 AM

Damn I missed the spam. :( How am I ever going to get to 500 flags?

6:08 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24155695/…

VLQ!

Seeing that the starboard is cleared I refrain from any opening remarks

Seeing that the starboard is cleared I refrain from any opening remarks

Seeing that the starboard is cleared I refrain from any opening remarks

oh, wait, I don't.

6:28 AM

@user0000000 I've edited that question. Do you still feel a close vote is needed?

I did expect my comment about banning a CM would go unnoticed...but I see we have reached consensus......

A: How to fix Ora-01427 single-row subquery returns more than one row in select?

7:09 AM

-1

•Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research! But avoid … •Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers. •Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience. To learn more, see our tips on writing great ans...

When he did ctrl+v he had the wrong content on his clipboard...

I assume you flagged as NAA?

@rene that's what I did

yes

OK, no need for me to add another flag...

Too late, I did.

7:13 AM

@rene: why's that?

It's interesting how you can accept your own flag by VLQing then VTCing when there are already 4 votes…

looks like you found a loophole

@FinalContest the number of flags doesn't raise the priority in the mod queue

@rene: what do you mean? It is handled by the community, not mods.

Gone.

@FinalContest It is? I can vote to delete? I doubt it.

7:16 AM

@bjb568: yes, you can recommend it once it is in the low-priority queue and it should have been there after my first NAA flag.

A: When to use NAA and when to flag Mod --> Other?

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NAA and Other both go before the diamond moderators. NAA flags are also shown to 10K users, which is... A little bit off, since it takes 20K to be able to vote to delete answers. We're working on some retooling there. NAA flags are intended for answers which make no effort to answer the question...

@rene: old thing, there was a renaissance.

NAA and VLQ both go to the VLQ queue where the community can handle it.

but yeah, NAA is not that useful when there is one already provided no community member clicks on "Looks OK".

So we agree that adding another flag was not useful ;-)

perhaps, yeah.

It increases good reviewer's accepted flag count which leads to increased weight. So no.

7:22 AM

I am not aware of any action based on increased weight.

It's just higher priority in the queue.

sure, but the queue is not overloaded :)

Hey, average microseconds count.

7:37 AM

Hi everypony.

Hi.

Goodnight.

(everypony)

@bjb568 goodnight

@DroidDev - Anime seem to spaw some strange question sometime... "Can devil fruit user drown in a bathtub".... yea, right...

@SPArchaeologist Can devil fruit user drown in..... what??? devil fruit user, bathtub, isn't this question or that anime series too-imaginative? Aren't they all....??

7:59 AM

@DroidDev Well, even forgetting that many users where shown in shallow water without any problem, it was specified that is not the water per se the problem. The negative effects come from a sort of "hate" between the sea/rivers and the fruits... Anyway - thank the "random questions from the network" sidebar :P

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: [BAYES THEOREM PROBABILITY QUESTION ](math.stackexchange.com/questions/830176/…) on math.stackexchange.com

@SPArchaeologist same is the case with skyrim in arqade gaming. random questions from network sidebar is showing three of its questions and one is "are same sex marriages allowed?", another one is "how many children can I adopt in skyrim?" really...? What game is that??

Well hello there ambiguous and controversial title, I'll see you in Hot Network Questions soon no doubt — CyanAngel 18 hours ago

I was reading a hot question in ProgrammersSE, then something stuck my mind oh! I have an account here, I can upvote stuff!!

@DroidDev it's a great game, it got me over 1000 repz on the gaming site! And no, no same sex marriage and can't have children unless you download extra mods. ;)

@ShadowWizard next thing I don't know about skyrim, what are mods?

and as far as I am concerned, good games are the only games where you can race cars or kill people or do both :P

wait..... is it generation gap @ShadowWizard :P

@DroidDev that's boring! Better killing monsters, burn them with magic fire etc :D

8:13 AM

@ShadowWizard oh yeah! missed that one, God of war

@DroidDev mods are external packages of software that you download after the game was already released and they can alter the game.

But Skyrim also got internal dev console which I forgot about that let you do virtually anything from within the game itself.

@ShadowWizard Graphics, everything depends on graphics these days.

@DroidDev true, and Skyrim has excellent quality

Hey, I see the star train was cleared! WHO DID THIS?! ;)

@ShadowWizard I just googled it, I think I might like the game. Btw, watchdogs was released and to play it, i'll have to update my lappy(laptop), which will cost me more than game itself :((

@ShadowWizard with all my starred messages being shown again, I'd say order has been restored.

8:20 AM

Oh! I see, pearls of wisdom are restored :P

@DroidDev Mods? basically pieces of game you have to install if you want to play the game as it was expected to :P

@DroidDev Which translates to "If you ever attempt to play oblivion without a world rewamp mod... have fun with empty field everywhere"

@SPArchaeologist and I hate that, first you download the game, then its parts as you continue (and if wish to continue) and then they say Y U pirate?

@DroidDev mods are community made. The tool to make them is provided directly by the game devs. They WANT the community to make mod. They even copied some of the mod when they made Skyrim

see the new fire spell which is taken directly from Oblivion "Midas spells of aurum" mod

@SPArchaeologist in that case, I love it. I like it when people collaborate and then make something better. /calling a friend with high speed internet connection and asking him to download skyrim

8:40 AM

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/177238/…

@DroidDev be aware of one thing though. Mods can cause the "forget the main game, keep modding forever" syndrome.

@SPArchaeologist darn! local online stores are out of skyrim for pc :(

what should I do with my life now?

There was a anniversary edition that included oblivion, syrim, dagerfall and morrowind. Personally, I prefer oblivion because I don't have to use that malware feast called "Steam"

Any 10k on MSE here? What happened to meta.stackexchange.com/q/250152 ?

Hmm, looks like a batch script incorrectly changed that link to point to MSE instead of MSO.

8:56 AM

one question: Why doesn't Jeff's account show up when I search for users in SO?

It doesn't pop-out even in moderators

He's not a moderator

Not all diamond users are there

@DroidDev When I type jeff atwood here I find his user

@Stijn ok got it. Thank you

geeee. nice. One of my co-worker just did something in a sharepoint feature module that has opened a whole world of questions in my mind about how feature localization can actually hope to work.

9:13 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LEFT OUTER JOIN on stackoverflow.com

@SPArchaeologist how then? ;)

SPAM? stackoverflow.com/questions/24159056/…

who is upvoting that?

@rene socks? If so, we have have a nuke-fodder here

He tried on SU as well superuser.com/users/324435/user3603356

spam, then

that guy has four accounts

9:22 AM

it is gone now...

flagged the SU one, too

Q: Caml defined Custom Action, UrlAction and the multi language interface

@ShadowWizard simply, they DON'T

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When defining a custom action via the CAML schema definition, the UrlAction parameter specifies the "site or site collection relative URL of the page, for example, ~site/_layouts/sampleurl.aspx or ~sitecollection/_layouts/sampleurl.aspx." (taken from MSDN). The UrlAction also supports javascript...

this was one question of mine posted some time ago.

Never got an acceptable answer.

Now, my co-worker made me notice that you don't even need to use a custom action. You can force this "bug" to happen even if you limit yourself to a simple module that points to the "Pages" folder.

Now I am left wondering. Should I edit this old question or should I post a new one? the cause is the same, but the solutions can be different (javascript used on the custom action can work, but cannot help on a module).

9:54 AM

Jon Skeet's answer on that canonical question just got its 242nd upvote due to the attention this question is giving it... proving once more that the community does not understand how voting works. — Robert Harvey ♦ 6 hours ago

after reading the rest of the comments I think it's Robert Harvey not understanding how voting works...

10:19 AM

Oh boy, the joy of hunting down a bug that ONLY crashes IE8...

@rene newbie. Some of our clients still have IE7

and want to use flex-like layouts just to add to the injury.

@rene does it crash an emulated IE8?

10:37 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DISARM THE B.O.M.B.! on codegolf.stackexchange.com

@SPArchaeologist That is bad...

@JanDvorak Didn't check, hold on...

@rene thanks for the sympathy there. At least they don't use ie6 (probably only because Microsoft itself deprecated it).

@JanDvorak No, it doesn't

I dream of a day when the browser will start to auto-update itself. Without any way to stop the process

or the day Google decide that obsolete browser must die and mods their pages so that anything under ie11 will display a white page with a single line "ye are using a prehistoric browser. Please go and update it, and only then return here".

@SPArchaeologist Yeah, I'm stuck with a government agency ATM that still runs XP and IE8 due to 'legacy' and the goal of my project is 'to innovate'....

10:47 AM

@SPArchaeologist something like Chrome has ATM?

Seems like we do someting with a jquery dialog that breaks in IE8

what jQuery version?

1.9.1

should work

yeah, should... famous last words...

11:18 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/a/24161239/2389078

insanity level in php and android is same

Y U NO FLAG? :(

11:37 AM

the answer is gone

:)

it contained quite a motivation, booo hooooo

12:38 PM

how are duplicate flags handled? many of mine are still pending for review.

@DroidDev they just send a question to the duplicate review queue

so they can be pending for a long time

@Stijn ok, never heard of a duplicate review queue, and I doesn't show up if I open my review queues. It only shows first and late answers, CV, LQ, suggested edits and reopen votes. Out of these currently I can access first and late answer queues, because of reputation. But it never showed duplicate review queue

@DroidDev sorry I meant CV queue, but duplicates appear in there

@Stijn oh! ok, thanks for info :)

I guess I'll just have to wait for some centuries, because that queue is always overflowing :)

@DroidDev it shrank from 100k to 10k so there's a light in the end of the tunnel :D

@DroidDev if it's in JavaScript let me know, I got a Hammer

12:54 PM

@ShadowWizard I think it just shrank because of targeting the questions according to number of flags. I don't know if its still the same or all the questions are there now.

@DroidDev nope, it got everything back by now. Deleting old close votes did the trick. (Expire, sorry ;))

@ShadowWizard sorry, they are all in Android. Some of them even very popular and highly upvoted, but I flagged them for better questions.

1:25 PM

;_; — mniip Jun 7 at 8:26

just a three character comment!!

how is this guy doing it, he dodged the min length for comment :O

He answered it 4 comments down

@gerrit Zero-with whitespace — mniip 2 days ago

@Andy whatm like "0 0"?

Q: How to type zero-width space character (U+200B) on a laptop keyboard?

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There is a very similar question to this one already (How can I type U+200B character?) but all the answers are about how to type this character on a PC keyboard with a num pad which is not my case. I use Czech (QWERTY) layout but am willing to switch to English (US) layout if necessary. How do...

windows keyboard unicode

@Andy that didn't worked for me. I tried 0 0 0 0 0

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^

Now, don't go abusing this secret knowledge. ;)

1:30 PM

@Andy Wooooaaaahhhhh!!!!!!

check starboard ;)

@Andy Arrgghh, that hack if for windows only I guess, it doesn't work on linux. On my windows PC at home, I have an un-named folder without an icon ;)

@DroidDev I'm the opposite. I've got the Windows machine in front of me and the linux one at home.

If you copy/paste that comment into a crappy text editor (eg. Notepad), you see that the comment looks like this ;_;????????????, so he's putting the zero-width characters at the end

@Andy hey, I'm still using Notepad to write scripts! ;D

@ShadowWizard /me pats @ShadowWizard on the head

I understand though. It works just fine if that's what you are used to

lol

@Andy try it on your linux machine at home, I also tried it in libre office. Didn't typed anything.

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1:45 PM

No, it doesn't. You aren't supposed to see anything. Try putting it between two characters: AB There are several 0-width character between the A and B. It is noticeable if I use the arrow keys to move back over the sentence. It looks like the cursor pauses for a second during the A and B, but it's really moving over the unseen characters

A: Has pasting images directly into the upload box been dropped? Or is it just me?

@Andy you're too kind!

yay! I can paste images again!

(oh, but still not here)

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Paste is working again in webkit browsers. The popup doesn't say so, but it does.

TGMCians

3:31 PM

\o

please go here cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24166810/…

bye everyone. See ya tomorrow - have to go now.

TGMCians

cya @SPArchaeologist

4:15 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/4405310/…

@JanDvorak ... even a mod answered that ...

the times, they are a-changng

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5:08 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: LINKING AN IMAGE TO A PRODUCTS DATABASE I CREATED on stackoverflow.com

5:27 PM

3 more reopen votes here please (see this Meta discussion)

5:44 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: DISARM THE B.O.M.B.! on codegolf.stackexchange.com

@Stijn you realise you're counter-voting @FinalContest, do you?

@AnnaLear Here I made you guys something

feature-request show that whenever a user gets deleted

:P

deleted != destroyed ;)

but either way, I like it

:P

Isn't there a 'destroy user' button?

6:00 PM

There is. There's also a separate "delete" :)

True. SE should get actual drones and destroy the persons themselves.

hi, may I ask for feedback why I got a downvote here? stackoverflow.com/questions/24065226/…

@JanDvorak: counter-voting?

@FinalContest I'm going to guess that it's because it looks like you posted a link-only answer.

^

Maybe add a relevant quote from that post into your answer? If there is one.

6:02 PM

@AnnaLear: strange, the question was whether it is supported, and I replied nope, and I gave a link for details.

@AnnaLear: there is none.

@FinalContest Oh, I know. I think your answer is fine.

@AnnaLear: ok, thanks, I will paste something inline.

although it will be a huge copy/paste :)

ok, done, thanks.

it is a bit convoluted now IMHO

@JanDvorak: what is this counter-voting sentence? What have I missed?

39 mins ago, by Stijn

3 more reopen votes here please (see this Meta discussion)

you have originally closed that question

perhaps, so what? :)

@JanDvorak: I may have made a mistake, or had different opinion is all. ;)

although I do not review anything else than C++ questions, so I am surprised. Perhaps I closed it based on some highlight here?

Well the question did have 43 answers (23 now) so I can understand the too-broad CVs, but most of the remaining answers are legit and it's a CW that is incredibly useful. No worries :)

6:21 PM

pfff

like clockwork, I get confrontational with a low-rep user and my lowest voted question gets an "unrelated" downvote

define "confrontational"

I asked a user to stop spamming tag edits, and instead fix all the problems with the questions he was editing

I rarely get downvoted

@meagar how?

Then started editing his suggestions to fix the problems he'd missed and unticking "this edit was helpful"

It's conjecture of course

I like that move

6:24 PM

Just highly convenient timing

@AnnaLear Huh, what's the difference between destroying and deleting a user?

@GnomeSlice Destroy can only be done on users with < 500 rep and also removes ALL their posts, not just downvoted ones.

Oh. Huh.

Oh, deletion is for when you delete your account?

Not necessarily

What if a sock ring grinds their way to 500 rep each?

6:36 PM

Do I need to make a gif for failed destruction? :P

@GnomeSlice yes

dat title:

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Q: I want to calcu

good morning I want to calculate the determinant $\left| \begin{array} 0&1 &2^n & \cdots &n^n \\ (-1)^n & \ddots &\ddots &\ddots & (n-1)^n \\ (-2)^n & \ddots& \ddots& \ddots & \vdots \\ \vdots & \ddots& \ddots & \ddots &1 \\ (-n)^n & \cdots & (-2)^n &(-1)^n &0 \end{array} \right|$ Thank you in...

linear-algebra

@JanDvorak good morning

@AnnaLear By the way: timecop1983.bandcamp.com/album/journeys-2

New Timecop 1983

niiiiice

morning!

@JanDvorak Maybe later

6:46 PM

@GnomeSlice The cassette :-)

VLQ stackoverflow.com/questions/9542610/…

Pops

Within the rep cap of 10k on SO!

(This is where I come to yell things when I have nowhere else to yell them.)

That's what mountaintops are for.

Just eat a Klondike bar, it'll take you there. Getting back is another story.

Pops

I live at sea level, you insensitive clod!

secretformula

@Pops just dive deep then :)

Pops

7:02 PM

...I can't tell if you want me to drown or if you're trying to point out that there are many underwater mountains.

You could go fishing. I heard it calms the mind.

@Pops Maybe he was suggesting diving into a bowl of milk?

secretformula

Honestly I forgot about the whole drowning underwater thing... its that time of day I guess...

*it's

7:30 PM

The VPC provided by MS for debugging IE8 issues auto-initiate a shutdown even if I'm in the middle of a debug session for the last 20 minutes...what a waste of time...

Going thru declined flags… why is this not supposed to be migrated to CR?

@bjb568 not sure about this one in particular, but mods really don't like to migrate stuff.

It's answered, not strictly off-topic for SO, and there's literally no point in migrating it a week after it was posted. Perfect categorization of every question within the network isn't the goal.

Ok, thanks.

7:52 PM

@Barun The point of flexbox is to be flexible. I can't just make things not-flexible. — bjb568 37 mins ago

Sigh… "I want to use flexbox" "Drop that and try jQuery"

Seems like the commenters are idiots too, not just the askers.

@bjb568 And you are one of the commenters?

Yeah. :)

@AnnaLear can you forward this to someone pls

@shog9 ^^^

Shog9

8:16 PM

@Braiam done

YAY!

8:29 PM

"Edits must be at least 6 characters; is there something else to improve in this post?"

sigh, I cannot fix a serious bug due to that limit.... what a shame ...

@FinalContest <--!--> FTW

what post?

@AnnaLear: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/37345/…

what's the bug?

8:44 PM

Are you talking about the question or one of the answers? The question has plenty to address to get over the 6 character limit.

user213963

Any CMs about that could help P.SE with our 'favorite' persistent troll?

programmers.stackexchange.com/users/136349/andy-harglesis @MichaelT?

user213963

@Bart Yep... though he's also been "[edit] (see history)" today as well as another account.

rofl

user213963

(not going to leave that in the raw here...)

8:57 PM

I shall cherish that then.

user213963

It just gets tedious for "flag/ping mod" -> "delete account" -> repeat (it takes several iterations for the spam ram to kick in)

Myeah. We had similar users a while ago on MSO.

user213963

@Bart That particular account still exists on EE if you want to look at the style of question.

user213963

MSO of old had half a dozen mods and SE employes watching it fairly closely. P.SE has one awake mod and no SE employees watching at the moment. Resolutions for issues can take much longer.

:s

We should have made those Indian hackers moderators after all

user213963

9:02 PM

I think they're more interested in other sites... I think there was only one incident on P.SE from them.