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animuson

12:56 AM

jokerdino

1:46 AM

Hey guys. I am quite confused at the moment. I got an email from a certain Andy King from Google.

His email had this:

> I found your details on stack over flow while looking for engineers with Ubuntu skills

How legit would that be?

animuson

Doesn't sound very legit.

jokerdino

animuson

Considering that your email is not publicly displayed on your profile unless you explicitly list it in your About Me info...

jokerdino

The email he obtained.. could have been from the package commits.

What exactly do I have that the scammers want?

animuson

Your personal info?

jokerdino

1:57 AM

Valid point.

Tim Yi Jiang

@jokerdino At least the person is probably real uk.linkedin.com/in/andyreking

animuson

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A: Can we have the ability to rescind a close vote before it closes?

There are a lot of "I agree" answers here already, which is great, but how about a good solution? Basically, when clicking the close button again after already having voted to close, change the original "Vote to Close" button to be a "Retract Vote" button: Clicking the "Retract Vote" butt...

Tim Yi Jiang

Anyway unless someone hijacked a google.com email, replying to ask for more information is probably fine

jokerdino

@TimYiJiang Yeah, I found that profile.

google.com email is only used by their employees right?

Tim Yi Jiang

As far as I know, yes.

jokerdino

2:04 AM

OK. i'll probably ask him to provide more info.

Thanks!

jcolebrand

@animuson fwiw I've interviewed with serious firms based on my SE usage

@jokerdino It could be rather legit.

Have you read Spolsky's thoughts on finding qualified people vs slugging through resumes?

jadarnel27

2:50 AM

I find it strange that one can vote to reopen one's own question.

jcolebrand

why?

You didn't want it closed

jadarnel27

It just seems inconsistent. You can't upvote or downvote your own posts. You can vote to delete your own posts, but there are lots of limitations, and this seems to general motivate good behavior.

I feel like, when I see people vote to reopen their own post, it's done instantly, as a reaction to the closure (without having fixed anything first).

animuson

It seems unneeded now that a simple edit to your question will bump it into the Reopen Votes queue for review.

Tim Yi Jiang

Well, you'll still need 4 others to agree with you

@animuson Yeah, that's true

animuson

But to be fair, users can also vote to close their own questions.

jadarnel27

2:55 AM

Both of those are good points I hadn't considered.

@animuson Yeah. I haven't seen as much of that though. Except possibly in "off topic - migrate to X" situations.

animuson

3:15 AM

Ahhhh Runtime Errors!!!

jadarnel27

Server error?

Gasp!

animuson

Somebody get the wheel!

jadarnel27

Uh oh, it's Marc's fault!

And we're back.

PLZ give me free services

I'm surprised there hasn't been a "What just happened?" Meta post yet.

animuson

There's one! :D

Danny Beckett

4:17 AM

Is it possible to flag an edit?

This one seems very pointless: stackoverflow.com/posts/14867520/revisions

Image even removed, and re-uploaded... strange!

animuson

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Q: Fix the Tag Editor badge description to match other badge descriptions

All the badge descriptions on Badges page are capitalized as normal English sentences except the Tag Editor badge, which says: First Tag Wiki Edit Each word is capitalized in this description, and it looks out of place. Can this be fixed?

jadarnel27

5:23 AM

That is Tim-worthy pedantry right there.

animuson

7:56 AM

Another user approving something terrible: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/1518657

Daniel Fischer

8:57 AM

@animuson Oddly the approver has a decent approve/reject ratio. Regarding the edit suggestion itself, it wasn't as bad as it looks. It changed only the code - for the better. It was submitted a few seconds after stackoverflow.com/revisions/14870019/2 which fixed the other issues too, so it looks like it made the text worse, although it didn't compared to the version the submitter worked from.

Mechanical snail

9:49 AM

@DannyBeckett It's the same issue: looks like the most recent editor was editing simultaneously to your suggested edit, and you submitted first. Then his edit overwrote yours, effectively rolling most of it back.

The editing UI shouldn't do that. It ought to merge the changes. Even giving an edit conflict message is better than silently accepting.

@DannyBeckett You did the same thing.

jadarnel27

1:32 PM

Happy Valenbrown's Day everyone \o/

jokerdino

@jcolebrand No I haven't. Do you have the link please?

I suppose this is the post you are referring to. joelonsoftware.com/items/2005/01/27.html

I just read it. Thanks!

jadarnel27

3:47 PM

I just used the close votes queue on Stack Overflow for the first time in a while. Dupe closing is slightly different then I remember it.

I did my best to shovel all the garbage over to @jcolebrand's site =P

jcolebrand

Yay!

@jadarnel27 thoughts on this? ell.stackexchange.com/a/2539/590

@jadarnel27 yeah, they just updated this in the past month

jadarnel27

4:15 PM

Oh, okay. I kind of like the changes they've been making so far.

Taking a look at that link now.

@jcolebrand I think that's an excellent explanation, man.

I haven't perused that site at all, I assume the target audience is people learning English. In which case, your answer might be intimidatingly wordy. But the other answers have covered the bare bones clarifications. So I think your answer is appropriate as a "further reading" kind of thing.

Moshe

@jcolebrand - nydailynews.com/opinion/brooklyn-dirty-shame-article-1.1263573

jcolebrand

4:31 PM

@jadarnel27 Yeah, I thought about it as "if you've gotten to the point of wanting a clarification of a memetic component of the technology sector, you probably have a decent grasp of English and could use a classroom lecture style discussion, but made a little more accessible". But I definitely considered "what if they know 0 English" in which case "who cares about free beer vs free speech"

@Moshe thanks. Since I wasn't there I really have no take on it, and to be honest, this writeup is rather exactly how I mentally mapped things as they really went down.

I never expected the students inside to be all "DON'T TAZE ME BRO" or anything.

jadarnel27

@jcolebrand That makes sense. I definitely like the anecdotal approach.

Moshe

@jcolebrand yw

jcolebrand

@jadarnel27 I also wanted to ensure that cultural norms were brought up as well, as often English speaking and Western customs go together, but sometimes they don't. Faux pas', however, are always discomforting.

> but note that the legalities of calling such a thing a gift in most English businesses would cause problems

dreamcrash

5:04 PM

Hi, can someone provide a litter information about editing wiki tag?

jcolebrand

5:20 PM

@dreamcrash what's the question

dreamcrash

it is bad

to use text

from wikipedia

and adding the source to the wiki tag?

for tag that are too specific

jcolebrand

Yes, it is considered bad form to just use wikipedia text.

dreamcrash

Thanks for the information

unfortunately a made so bad wiki through

I should had answer first before editing

Szabolcs

5:38 PM

Is there a chatroom for the SE API? I was wondering, when retrieving questions, what does has_more mean? I thought that if I get them page by page, has_more will be false when there's no next page, but this is not the case.

Tim Stone

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Hmm, has_more should be false if there's no next page, do you have an example?

Szabolcs

@TimStone Just a sec, I'll give you one. Last activity in that room was 55 days ago ...

@TimStone Unfortunately it's not reproducible, but it did happen without doubt. My query was this, and it stopped (returned has_more False) on page 7.

I ran the exact same code again and now it went to the end, page 14.

I'll try a few times more but I don't want to burn up all by quota.

@TimStone BTW do you know what is the maximum page size, and will using that minimize my quota use? I want to retrieve all unanswered questions. For a small site like Mathematica.SE this should be okay.

Tim Stone

I believe the maximum page size is 100

@Szabolcs Hmm, that's odd. I could see it being sometimes wrong for that route because the results were changing, but obviously the discrepancy is too large for that to make sense here.

Szabolcs

Well I guess nothing one can do until it becomes reproducible. No big deal for me anyway.

jcolebrand

6:18 PM

news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-57569287-71/…

jadarnel27

7:28 PM

Have any of you used a source control system called "Dimensions"?

jcolebrand

Nope

Tim Stone

No, but there's a comment on one of Jeff's old blog posts that says it "is so difficult to use that we are considering just seriously to go to VSS2005" apparently.

So uh, good luck with that.

Oh, it was from all the way back in 2006, wow.

jadarnel27

Hahaha

Yeah, this trash is garbage. I would rather use pencil and paper.

(Somehow)

I was not in the right "role" to commit my changes to this code (I was able to pull the code down from the repository, though).

So I opened a ticket with the Change Control Support team, and they added me to the right role.

I tried to commit again, and was blocked because I hadn't linked the commit to a "request"

Tim Stone

Someone forgot to ask you nicely to check in your code?

jadarnel27

I had a request created, and now I'm getting a new error that says I'm not in a role that has permission to link requests to commits -_-

Opening another ticket now to get that squared away. ::sigh::

Apparently, @TimStone =)

jcolebrand

7:51 PM

Wow - a comment from @EricLippert which has made my day: "Thanks Jon, I did not know that!" Rare words indeed :)

Tweeted by jonskeet on February 14, 2013 at 7:00 PM

ericlippert.com/2013/02/14/static-constructors-part-three

this is also highly relevant to my interests, so, good to know

jcolebrand

9:14 PM

So I just realized I'm an idiot. I was trying to figure out how LinkedIn knew that I had connections to some people (like a two-off email to a local realtor being the most recent example) when we should have no connection.

they're using something like the gmail integration feature (or Outlook, or whatevs)

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