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1:25 AM
@Purmou I think it sounds interesting; stats on behaviour are useful but a bit difficult to get.
 
I feel like I'm on course to pass 10k rep on MSO before I do on SO :P
 
1:47 AM
I had a dream last night that Apple discontinued the iPod Nano, instead of adding a camera.
 
I had a dream about an apple. It was golden delicious.
 
@Moshe: Looks like you need to confront a part of your life that you feel will collapse even if you try improving it.
(and that was going to go somewhere funny but I decided against it)
 
Lol.
 
 
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3:13 AM
Does anyone else vote to close old questions they answered that had several upvotes when they later determine it to be too localized?
 
3:28 AM
@animuson No. I don't go back and vote to close old questions much at all, much less those that I've answered - too biased, and too late to stop someone from answering anyway.
Always worth looking for ways you can edit to make them more generally-applicable though.
 
@Shog9: I did for this question: stackoverflow.com/questions/8481474/… - But only because I was updating some tags and I just ran across it not realizing I had even answered it. Haha
 
Yeah, I've probably got a few like that around. In hindsight, would have been better answering in a "here's how you debug" fashion, but web debugging is just so much fun ;-)
 
@Shog9 - Still around?
Anyone here do C++?
 
@Moshe NOT ANYMORE!
 
Lol? Huh? Not here or no C++?
 
3:40 AM
@Moshe No longer working as a programmer. But what's your q?
 
I'm given the following homework question and I can't seem to solve it:
"Assume you need to test a function named max . The function max receives two int arguments and returns the larger. Write the definition of driver function testmax whose job it is to determine whether max is correct. So testmax returns true if max is correct and returns false otherwise."
Also, what do you do now? (EDIT: Ah, SE stuff)
 
@Moshe Work for SE doing... stuff...
 
Nice.
 
@Moshe So, you need to write a function that will verify max() does what it's supposed to
How would you do that manually?
 
@Shog9 Yup.
I've tried several things and it didn't work.
What do you mean by manually?
 
3:43 AM
I mean, if you were put before an interactive C++ interpreter, and told to test max(), how might you start?
 
I'd pass in two values, which I'd know what they were, and check if max == what I knew to be the greater of the two.
 
gimme an example
 
@Shog9 Here's my submission to the interactive HW program:
bool testmax( int a = 1, int b = 2){

return max(a,b) == (a > b) ? a : b;

}
 
where does it say testmax() accepts parameters?
 
It doesn't/
 
3:46 AM
also:
int max(f, s) { return s; }
your test is a good start, but my initial max implementation has an obvious bug, and yet tests clean
 
Interesting...
@Shog9 Why would my driver test that clean?
 
work through it...
if a == 1 (== f) and b == 2 (== s), then...
 
I'm still confused.
@Shog9 - I think I see what the issue is. Not completely sure.
 
4:05 AM
@Moshe Here's another way of looking at it: that max() function I just wrote will implement the spec fine, so long as the second argument is always greater than the first. So you need a test that verifies - at very least - that it fails when that is not the case.
 
Got it.
bool testmax( ){
int a = 1, b = 2;


if(!(max(a,b) == (a > b ? a : b))) return false;

a = 2, b = 1;

if(!(max(a,b) == (a > b ? a : b))) return false;

a = 1, b = 1;

if(!(max(a,b) == a)) return true;

return true;

}
 
4:38 AM
@Shog9 Thank you.
 
@Moshe No problem.
 
Woohoo :D Just hit 9,000 rep on SO. Only 1k more to go o.o
 
@animuson grats
 
 
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1:09 PM
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Q: Skeptics Brand Concept and Site design - Revised Design

Sean GallagherThanks for your great feedback and input. I wanted to start a fresh post, and share the changes with you. Major changes No conspiracy theory looking stuff Images are of actual scientific docs, readouts etc. all available for review... Cleaner style More modern No mono-spaced courier type More...

 
 
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5:48 PM
@Shog9: Are you allowed to tell us if all our recent upvotes came from one person, just not who it was?
 
@animuson Am I allowed? Depends; why do you want to know?
 
I logged in today and had a bunch of upvotes for all my questions and was wondering if they were serial or not. o.o
 
A quick glance at your profile shows 25 up-votes today, 15 on one question, 4 on another, etc. Obviously, those are not all from one person
If there's any serial-voting going on here, it looks like the person responsible got bored very quickly
 
really? mine shows 15 on 15 separate questions
then a bunch of upvotes I had before I logged off last night
 
"today" meaning between 0:00 GMT and now
 
5:53 PM
Ya
 
oh - I was looking at MSO ;-P
yeah, there's a reasonable chance you're gonna lose 80 points by tomorrow
 
6:48 PM
@Moshe - it happens so rarely that I discover worthwhile music with German lyrics - here's something with a lot of words. Probably really hard to parse but also really cool IMO
 
7:22 PM
@animuson That was not me, FYI.
 
 
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Lix
8:57 PM
right... so how are we going to cure the confusion created by the 5minute editing window?
 
what confusion?
 
Does it need a cure?
 
Lix
there have been many posts here recently about confusion of what edits are attributed to what users...
people encounter edit ninjas
 
experienced users will somehow mention they've edited
or they'll first say "this is a bad question because ____" and edit it
 
Lix
this is true - experienced users will also not be perplexed by the 5 min window...
 
9:01 PM
same with how you just know who downvoted if they comment negatively but don't mention "downvote"
 
Lix
what about locking the posts for the grace period or marking them somehow... (other than noticing the post time)
 
i guess i'd be okay with an indicator that it's been edited X times in the past 5 minutes
but no history of those edits and no links
 
Lix
yea - so that you can see someone is improbing their inital post
(* probing it to make it better *)
;)
 
that's a good word :P
 
Lix
good woody word
 
9:03 PM
I like the current system. Why should I care if someone fixed a typo in a long question 30 seconds after posting it?
 
Lix
just for example as the latest post about it :
 
You are right about the recent confused posts, but I don't think it's worth "fixing" unless that turns into a bigger trend.
 
Lix
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Q: SO says I made a change that I didn't make

JW.See this page: http://stackoverflow.com/posts/2315476/revisions I edited this post, but I only made one change: adding a dollar sign before the line "func_name();". But it says that I also added some text, "that consumes a lot of resources". I'm certain that I didn't add that text; in fact, I'...

Ok -so improving the current system :)
 
This has been the behavior for a long time, and there haven't really been any issues with it until recently.
 
Lix
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Q: Editing doesn't change the question

user986276I have seen an answer to a question on Stack Overflow. It contains a typo, so it is edited. The editing shows that it should be fixed, but it isn't. Link to answer: sticky div in sidebar I cleared my cache, cookies etc. and then reloaded the page, same thing EDIT: I went to my friend's h...

 
9:05 PM
people are slowly shifting more towards stupid nowadays
 
Lix
Just because its been around for a while doesn't mean it can't be improved :)
@Purmou true dat :P
 
Just because it can be improved doesn't mean it's worth the effort to improve it.
 
Lix
ahh - this is another issue :) for the dev team to decide ;)
 
anyone know how to make desktop notifications show up on the bottom right of my second monitor?
 
Lix
OS?
 
9:06 PM
win7 64-bit
 
@Purmou Super User.
 
Lix
then no :P
 
Is your second monitor set as the rightmost one in your display menu?
 
@PopularDemand SU is literally the slowest of all the sites
yeah it is
so it's not my primary
i'm downloading something to extend the taskbar
 
I'm not sure why I asked that, that's my setup and my notifications show up on my primary. I think it depends on where the taskbar lives.
Ah, very good then.
 
Lix
9:09 PM
I think an indicator of a post actively being edited in the grace period would be beneficial...
 
ugh, this one uses a windows 95 style taskbar
brb, gotta close all my windows to install this
 
When serial upvotes get reversed, it will recalculate other upvotes and stuff you had to make them count, to account for the reputation cap?
 
someone ping me
 
Lix
@Purmou boo
 
damn
still showed up on my primary
oh sweet
i just duplicated my entire taskbar, start menu and all
now this is luxurious
 
9:41 PM
ping me again
oh grr
 
@Purmou: I will if you answer my question above.
 
i would if i knew the answer. you just got hustled boy!
 
Haha well right now I'm sitting at 260 for the day, but I'll lose 80 whenever that serial vote thing kicks in. I have one other legitimate upvote that I didn't get +10 for, so I'm hoping it will grant it to me when the others get scratched.
 
OH
MY
GOD
that was the scariest moment of my life
you'd think legit software wouldn't come with trojans, eh?
 
Someone pop out at you with a chainsaw? I can imagine that being scary...
 
9:47 PM
forget this taskbar extension
grr
now for some reason my resolution on my secondary monitor busted
 

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