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09:24
Quick check: it is normal to offer the delivery driver an ice pop and/or bottle of refridgerated water at 10AM when it's hot and humid (28 degrees, 80 percent humidity), and the neighbor telling me it was weird was just a typical city-dweller, right?!
:(
Oh well. Then I'm going to be weirdly making the world a better place one icepop at a time.
 
1 hour later…
10:40
@Tinkeringbell 28 degrees: no. At 35 we've done that before. Chilled mineral water. Courier was flattered.
We also tried with grocery delivery guy but he gratefully refused, because he has a fridge in the car.
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні 28 at 10 AM (and don't forget the humidity, 80 percent humidity means it feels like 32 degrees!). It'll easily get to 35 here by the end of the afternoon I think... I find it cruel not to offer!
small chance of trying to hit on them vibes, but otherwise it's a nice gesture
@Tinkeringbell still
This guy had sweat running down his head in streams.
But he wouldn't be delivering a package here at that time XD
10:43
@Tinkeringbell well duh, 80% relative humidity
@AndrasDeak--СлаваУкраїні Hahaha yeah.
Tell him not to sweat that much because it's pointless
You're just cruel too
Oh, and give him one of those salt licking blocks for horses. Gotta replace those ions.
I'd usually just not have people work for me like that on days like this, but the package got delayed.
10:44
yeah
In any case this is harmless weirdness even if you're considered weird. Plus the courier themself will be grateful, not taken aback. And it doesn't matter what others think.
Hahaha true. But I know I was raised kinda weirdly too, so when someone I consider rather normal makes a fuss about something I do... I start second-guessing.
Well you should, you're weird.
Thanks, that helps XD
11:08
You’re so helpful.
 
2 hours later…
12:51
... I regret putting vegetables in the freezer in the shed. I now had to walk 5 meters through what felt like 38 degrees, get into an even hotter shed, and walk back.
13:17
5 meters can be survived.
I walked 25 meters from the car to the gas station wearing shorts and a t-shirt, in -23°C a few years ago.
Instead of in a freezer, you can have the vegetables in soil.
13:33
Sounds way nicer.
mhm. The issues persist after a system reinstall. I kept my user account, though. Let me test with a new account.
Context? XD
My broken Linux computer.
Ah, it's still broken?! Darn... that's taking a long time to fix.
14:10
Funnily enough, I had problems back when I tried popos
Mint has Just Worked though
Aren't Nvidia GPUs a ton of work on other distributions, though?
Don't like Cinnamon.
It's ugly.
3% done downloading a single game for testing on the new account (best not copy over from the old one, just in case)... This is gonna take a few hours...
Wake me up when it's done.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Varies by distro
Mint Just Works with nvidia's crap. Most Ubuntu-based distros are fairly straight-forward thanks to ubuntu-drivers
IIRC, popos just gives you the latest drivers without requiring manually setting up the proprietary graphics drivers PPA. Unless you're on bleeding edge hardware (think getting and installing the RTX 5090 on the day it's released), you generally don't need the latest drivers anyway
I set up the graphics drivers PPA on my machine a while back, and I finally did it right that time, but that's because I've been struggling with some bugs (that are all nvidia's fault) and got tired of waiting. The last few months between Ubuntu LTS releases and the next major release of Mint are a bit slow on driver updates, but it's not the end of the world. Since you're on popos, you could probably just use mainline ubuntu
I'm pretty sure mainline ubuntu uses the same DE
14:27
@Zoe-Savethedatadump My GPU is from approximately February 2024.
Or later, depending on when this vendor specific one was released.
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Gnome with Cosmic DE extensions. Cosmic DE itself is a rewrite in Rust, and I think will replace Gnome in the next major PopOS version.
Apparently it’s in «Just».
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact 40xx?
@Zoe-Savethedatadump 4080 Super
Eh, Github says it’s in Just, but the files are .rs. Weird. Anyway.
@Zoe-Savethedatadump It’s kind of a waste, really, for Linux to reject me using it like I intended.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact No, that's expected. It's a submodule repo, so it doesn't run stats on the .rs files in the submodules
Click the language, and you get a search
github.com/pop-os/cosmic-term/tree/… shows Rust as expected, for example
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Oh, well.
17%...
Let me listen to a band with exactly one album, and see if it's done when that album is done.
This:
15:37
@Zoe Don't you use the data dump for training some comment tool?
15:56
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact it isn't a ML project, so no. It's pattern-based
It does use the data dump to process historical comments rather than just new ones, but it requires that I run it manually, which I haven't for a while
Haven't used it manually either
So there is a practical use for the data dump within the core community.
There's many
SE just doesn't care
I have access to it though. It was at 20% rollout last I checked
+ all mods
Nice, today I just learned that my entire wider family will be eliminated with nukes on day one of a military conflict with Russia.
Not really a surprise.
16:19
Nevermind, one aunt and uncle may be outside the target area.
Actually, one of the daugthers of one of my cousins is also outside.
Seriously, the computer shuts down during a download? Linux, why do you do this?
Trondheim isn't on the map? Nice
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Graphics driver update?
Smells like the driver died mid-update if yes
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Apex Legends. Downloading a fresh version on a new user account to test it.
Resumed it. 48 minutes left.
Not sure if I should disable the automatic screen blanking. I had some issues with it in the past. Don't wanna touch it and disrupt anything at this point.
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Sure, I'll be the only survivor along with my cousin's daughter amongst my 50 relatives.
16:44
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Don't worry
If there's a nuclear exchange between the US and Russia, somewhere around 6-7 billion people die from the fallout-induced food shortages in the decade or so that follows
Not if the nukes are limited to primary targets.
Even if the nukes are limited to primary targets
Conventional weapons will possibly kill a fair share of my family. They live rather close to the largest naval base of Northern Europe.
Remember, this wouldn't just be Russia nuking Norway; that would trigger retaliatory attacks from the US and maybe the UK and whoever else in Nato has nukes, in addition to Russia nuking other countries. The immediate deaths are in the tens to hundreds of millions primarily from the fireball and shockwave - it's the resulting fallout dispersed in the atmosphere that kills billions
And drops the global temperature by (IIRC) 4-5 degrees
mhm. I walked through some nettles last time I was within the walls of that base.
16:52
The fallout blocks the sun, blocking the sun reduces or prevents crop yield, preventing crop yield means the entire supply chain crumbles, and that is the part of nuclear war that kills billions
@Zoe-Savethedatadump I hear nukes are the modern solution to global warming...
That's also why a nuclear war isn't just a war between countries - if you start a nuclear war, you declare war on everyone, because the consequences of the fallout are global
The Fun Part:tm: there is that around 5 billion would die from just 100 nukes exchanged between India and Pakistan. Their little border dispute could kill a couple times more people globally than there are in both countries combined
wait, no, I misremembered
Like always...
Did my premature Alzheimer infect you?
5 billion was between Russia and the US
You apparently forgot that Russia has more nuclear weapons than every other country on the planet combined.
Vladimir Putin really hates people.
16:57
> We estimate more than 2 billion people could die from nuclear war between India and Pakistan, and more than 5 billion could die from a war between the United States and Russia
> While amounts of soot injection into the stratosphere from the use of fewer nuclear weapons would have smaller global impacts17, once a nuclear war starts, it may be very difficult to limit escalation18.
that said, the paper oversimplifies a few things. In the 5 billion Russia-US scenario, that's fewer people who can help farm, plus wars over food, so that's Fun
I tihnk we've all read this before. :P
I've mentioned it a few times in various places
It's pretty common knowledge, to be fair.
End of history? There is still outer space.
17:11
We have a few people on the ISS, which I believe is going to crash into the atmosphere naturally within a few decades
Though they're deorbiting it much sooner because it's EOL or whatever
Might as well jump out of it before that.
Anyone on the ISS are dead if there's a nuclear war. They need the ground for resources, and we don't have colonies anywhere else
They could last a few months probably, but they can't chill up there for a few decades and then come back and repopulate the planet
Anyway, picture from my mum's bathing session today, to lighten up the mood:
Don't mind the white border. She took a screenshot of the picture.
Your mother is local wildlife?!
There's a yo mama joke here :p
17:15
I am struggling to determine if that is an otter (kinda cute) or a brown baby bear (DANGER!)
@Tinkeringbell Did it never occur to you that I may not be human?
Do I have to resort to my failed emergency solution for keeping this computer from shutting down without changing the screen blanking setting?
@Tinkeringbell No bears in that part of the country.
The detail is quite low, but I don't think it's an otter.
Either mink or marten.
That's 3 albums finished, and the download still isn't done.
See now why I don't wanna start from scratch with all downloads again, when my computer keeps interrupting them by shutting down?
Unfortunately, the emergency trick didn't work, but maybe it does with tape.
Actually, that might work.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact You're too depressed to be anything else :P
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Ah! Never seen either
17:31
@Tinkeringbell She took a video, too, where just the head was visible while it was looking at them. The snout was quite a bit longer than I'd expect for an otter.
Never knew she had a thing for Himalayan pink salt.
@Tinkeringbell en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_mink Looks similar, doesn't it?
It does!
I heard mink makes good coats ;)
I heard that's illegal.
Wouldn't be the first illegal thing ever still happening
17:50
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact I had never heard about it until that SD rule was implemented
I still haven't tried it. Just sounds like unnecessarily expensive salt
It's salt. It's coarse salt, typically in a grinding container that you grind directly over your food, or you can put the whole salt crystals into the food directly. It... Tastes like salt. Not worth the extra money or work, IMO.
Now fresh ground pepper... That can be worth it.
I have access to both freshly ground pepper and salt :p
The salt doesn't make that much of a difference, but freshly ground pepper is fantastic
It's so good
Especially on eggs
I just ate. How am I getting hungry again? :/
17:58
The power of brains thinking about food
18:12
@Spevacus There's science on that!
Like, they let people eat Mac and cheese (which is just soft and fat so gets boring after a while) until they're really, really full and don't want anymore. Then they give them icecream, which is "variety", so suddenly you got your really full test subjects eating more :P
Does the science say why?
There was a link to a Dutch explainer in my past university's newsletter about this a while back.
@Zoe-Savethedatadump it's apparently as simple as 'variety'. Humans are programmed for a varied diet
Interesting.
Yeah. Apparently the "dessert stomach" really exists, kind of XD
I never have room for dessert when we go out to eat, but if we have ice cream at home? Different story.
Might have something to do with the whole "I have to pay for it" vs "I already own it" too
18:18
@Tinkeringbell yeah, but is the extra capacity from a lack of variety reducing the intake, or does it just clear a mental barrier or whatever?
@Zoe-Savethedatadump I dunno, I don't think the clip went into that or I can't remember.
Fair
I could look up the paper, but I'm busy :p
If I were to guess, I'd say a bit of both. Since recognizing hunger/full can also be hard for those with morbid obesity, and there it is often just mental, not listening to a body. But also, if you have to eat a lot of the same thing, it gets boring.
The difference with obesity is that the stomach can physically get bigger with enough overeating, at which point, the definition of full changes
That too, but there is also pretty solid evidence something changes mentally too. At least that's what the doctor tells me.
18:31
Yeah, both sounds reasonable
Brains are weird
Tell me about it
@Spevacus The answer lies in the den.
19:00
Ooooh! Wind. It's happening! A thunderstorm is arriving:D and I have a front row seat :D
Congrats, I’d also like a hurricane.
It's moving north!
Woo storms!
19:17
And yay glass walls :P just watching clouds rolling by while scrolling on my phone and hearing the first raindrops fall, the wind picking up and distant thunder rumblings :D
Suuuuch a vibe
Second best one!
Remember the hurricanes when I was a child. We had to secure things with ropes before it hit. :P One year, my sister had to secure a trampoline during the hurricane. Other years nobody remembered to do it, so we had trampolines flying through the air, landing on a neighboring house's roof. :P Always fun to sit in the living room and see the windows dancing.
That sound great!
Wind during fairly heavy snow is incredible
It can visualise all the different air currents
19:25
We've never really had that here :( just wind, or wind + rain + thunder
Seems like this storm is dissipating before really reaching here. The radar is showing less predicted precipitation and there's indeed less rain coming down too :( clouds aren't as interesting anymore and I hear no more distant thunder either
We had a lot of activity from Hurricane Debby but it had fallen off significantly since it made landfall. No lightning ):, just a long deluge for about a day and a half.
I'd love to visit a hurricane just once. If it weren't prime unethical disaster tourism XD
@Tinkeringbell aww
Yeah, way too little snow here.
 
2 hours later…
21:14
Move to Norway?
you don't have to move to norway to see snow
Go anywhere arctic during winter
@Spevacus Georgia?
@Zoe-Savethedatadump Beach?

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