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1:17 AM
This "world" map shows Stack Exchange. So It begs to question, what sort of government would it be? And what does our flag look like.?visualcapitalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/…
1:42 AM
@Rob Its just for us. If other sites want to adjust theirs, its up to them but they can use us as a base
@Rob The CMs will be doing it once things are settled, so... they'll deal with it
2:15 AM
@GWarner there's a city just for meta haha
@Catija something vaguely like the vatican? Small, independant, and stuck in the middle of a much bigger country? :D
A: Turning off the mobile feed for the Stack Exchange app

Joonas IlmavirtaUnfortunately this update renders the app almost useless to me. I found the feed of all notifications very useful. It allowed me to see comments, answers, and chat pings specifically without marking them as read. A substantial fraction of the messages require an action I can't or prefer not to ta...

unrelatedly... this seems a potentially useful point
... I never look at the feed so I can't really understand that point.
If it shows inbox notifications, I've never noticed it.
It does
Or did, anyway... it doesn't seem to now. ? Did we actually disable it already?
Its supposed to be
I'm not actually sure
2:29 AM
I don't see that. I see one random HNQ and the MSE question announcing the feed is going away.
That's a really old reply so I wonder if the 'feed' is just frozen in time
You're on ios tho...
I wonder if the behaviour is different between platforms
... yes?
Who knows.
I'm mainly trying to figure out where/when/how to do an omnibus post of "stuff third party SE clients might need" :D
2:35 AM
ugh, new phone screenshots are huge
Yup. I have that problem with my iPhone pro
and I uninstalled the app (well nearly everything but the work RSA token thing cause I don't know if our admin person remembered to move it for the new thing they are adding us to) off my last phone
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3:40 AM
Blue is likely to indicate that it's a Whiteboard marker: medium.com/graphicfacilitation/…
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6:10 AM
Beats me, I'm almost as lost as he was
@Spevacus Since I can only see one mention of 'child meta'... and since I find 'per-site meta' just as vague... why not 'This question should have been posted on another site's meta rather than on Meta Stack Exchange because it relates only to one specific site.' ?
(I haven't been watching character counts)
7:04 AM
that doesn't work anymore? ...
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
@SmokeDetector k
sdc k k k
@Luuklag No such command 'k'.
still works; k is an alias of tpu-, so its output is suppressed
7:09 AM
meh too complicated lol
I'll stick with direct replies.
@MetaAndrewT. I used k, it just didn't work with a number.
Probably there is a way, but it's too rocket science for me. ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I believe it works, but it doesn't output anything because k has - that suppresses the output
@MetaAndrewT. ohh no, I wasn't expecting a reply from Smokey, I checked the MS link. It didn't register my reply.
I'll test again soon if you want.
7:57 AM
only 9 more days left for my Epic badge
And also the first time I'm ever on a #1 spot: stackexchange.com/leagues/4/week/meta
Nice! Trakteren!
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9:20 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 nothing removed 😁😁
9:46 AM
Hmmm is it supposed to be that a past election shows that there were 2 candidates, but only show 1 candidate. I assume the other candidate has since been deleted, but still feels strange that the candidate doesn't show up at all. Would be better to note that there was a deleted user right?
@Tinkeringbell Hmmm they only fixed it for certain sites it appears
Sounds like a bug report to me then.
Or a support request.
10:02 AM
I left a comment on yaakov's answer. If it happens it happens
it isn't something that bothers me
btw, you guys heard, the internet has been sold
Yeah, for quite some money too!
> Oh no, not me
We never lost control
You're face to face
With the man who sold the ---world--- net
no strikethrough in quotes?
Apparently it works fine without, so yes.
Also amusingly
i.stack.imgur.com/MhZHd.png the lyrics include the banter from the singer in a concert
since they're from MTV unplugged album rather than the David Bowie Original
10:16 AM
I must admit I don't remember the song based on text only.
The man who sold the world :D
5.4M for:
> Included in the purchase are NFTs representing about 9,555 lines of code written in 1990-1991, a 30-minute animated visualisation of the code, a digital poster of the code, and a digital letter written by Berners-Lee in June 2021, reflecting on his invention.
@SmokeDetector k
11:00 AM
@SmokeDetector k
ohh it takes time to update in MS
blames cache
!!/blame cache
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 It's Ayo's fault.
OK that would be fine too.
throw cache on @M.A.R
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 Can't remember
You can see it
Click the deleted message and you'll have "history" link
Yup there is. At least when it's self deleted, not sure if also when deleted by others.
11:09 AM
I can't see history on your deleted post
That is an old tape deck and daaaaang that's a nice service manual
11:26 AM
@Luuklag no, I'm not RO here
11:53 AM
@Luuklag @Sha is Ro on DS9.
@sha is @Rob?
@Luuklag A sharob? - Google that, which one did you mean?
@Rob Lot of strange results there
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 sounds like a cheap rapper
12:02 PM
@Luuklag like this one? ;)
(someone with actual name Sharob lol)
There's even a shirt!
Let's see Shalag...
oops turns out it's Israeli company so everything is about the company. Weird, as it has no meaning in Hebrew.
12:25 PM
wow, that looks horrible @Rob
It's part octopus, part devil, part fairly, and part jerboa.
That's just an overly long sleeve
12:55 PM
@Luuklag true. Remind me to never make kids with you! :D
@JohnDvorak funny enough, Shajohn is very famous! ;)
Shaji John, professionally credited by his stage name Kalabhavan Shajohn is an Indian film actor, director and comedian who works primarily in Malayalam cinema. He started his career as a mimicry artist in Kalabhavan, Kochi. Making his debut in 1999 with My Dear Karadi and having made more than 90 appearances, he received a major breakthrough in his career with Drishyam (2013), in which he played a negative role. He made his directorial debut with Brother's Day starring Prithviraj. As of June 2021, he has starred in more than 130 Malayalam films. == Personal life == He was born as Shaji John to...
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I agree!
1:25 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 They'd be more likely to look like this:
@Rob this is actually not bad. ;)
The diamonds on the face look 🀑
1:48 PM
@Rob diamonds?
whoa three lurkers!
did i not share my memorial to a dead virtual pet here? dam my disrespect
Diamonds is one of the four suits of playing cards in the standard French deck. It is the only French suit to not have been adapted from the German deck, taking the place of the suit of Bells . The original French name of the suit is Carreau; in German it is known as Karo. In older German-language accounts of card games, Diamonds are frequently referred to as Eckstein ("cornerstone"). In Switzerland, the suit is still called Egge (=Ecke i.e. "corner") today. The term "Karo" went into the German language in the 18th century from the French carreau, which goes back to the Latin word, quadrum, meaning...
What did I miss? @GWar
1:50 PM
@GWarner who is it and how is he related to Tavern?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 What do you call them?
Its a pet dog in Fallout games
The real dog died
@Rob dunno, still not sure what you mean, the shape of @Luuk's identicon?
1:51 PM
I opnly spmmaed it to 2 other chat rooms.
Fair enough, you're no longer lurker, at least for now! @GWarner :D
aint this where we cry in our virtual beers
Actually almost no beer here, ironically.
It's a non-alcoholic Tavern... :D
1:52 PM
thank you.
oh okay.
You can have some strawberry banana juice, though.
Yay! Another lurker de-lurked.... :P
Last one might need...
ahh. a tavern for scandinavians?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of jQuery for @cig
1:53 PM
no offense of course
@GWarner barbarians
or barbers?
I need a barber
You can see from my avatar... and it's longer now...
actually i should gogle what country has the least number of alkyhol brands
Yes,get 4 inches cut.
Record was in the first COVID lockdown, year ago.... four months (!) without a haircut.
that aint long thats 'pandemic stylish'
1:55 PM
I did have long hair as teenager, so not counting that.
you arent a teenager?
@GWarner yeah but we don't have lockdown now, it's just me being lazy. lol
@GWarner LOL, if you ask for real I'm very excited. :P
I'm thrice the age of teenager. @GWarner
Having met Sha in person very recently, I can confirm he is not a teenager :P
@Mithical lol how so? Did you see my ID card? ;)
I might be teenager who look old. :P
oh. well i gave up on long hair when i couldnt wash it for 3 days. that was 2003
1:58 PM
I gave up on long hair when the military made me chop it off.
i was kidding i think i was lurking when someone was discussing how young you looked a week ago?\
(It'll make a reappearance once I'm out.)
@GWarner why couldn't you wash it?
i was unable to get out of hospital bed. and it was more like a week.
@Mithical ohhh... sad! Well I gave up on it when I realized it makes me look too feminine, and that's not what I wanted. To be honest.. I totally forgot why I had it. Maybe some stupid bet gone wrong.
2:00 PM
now that i recall that nightmare
It wasn't that bad, I washed it as usual, just had to comb the hair daily where I never comb my hair otherwise.
i got Open heart surgery . had my ribs opened liked a garden gate
@GWarner sorry to hear.... that sucks. What happened to you?
@GWarner that's nasty
Sorry to hear, and glad you're OK now! :)
yea. its been a real eye opener
@Mithical good, I believe it will fit you well. :)
@GWarner so since then you keep healthy diet, etc?
I torture my poor body.
But I want to believe it will signal me when it won't be able to handle it any longer. ;)
(in a gentle way, not just stop lol)
2:05 PM
pretty much. biggest change was i lost my urge to smoke.
@GWarner heh, that's also a way to get rid of that bad habit
I'm still not sure about your long hair though, you had haircut while in hospital?
. no. they wrapped it all up in a plastic baggy thing. and after 3 days removed it so i could brush it and sponge bath it.
I asked they wouldnt cut it.
@SmokeDetector why
Crappy answers maybe but can't see spam of offensive stuff in there.
2:09 PM
so after i could walk enough to sit on a bar stool i let a friend cut it short.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 This one could certainly use some flags.
@SmokeDetector @Ollie how is this offensive?
@Ollie ^
It's also not NAA from what I see it's honest attempt to answer. So, VLQ?
It's about sleeping schedule, and author disagree with other answers.
@GWarner oh, I see. Why not growing it back later then?
Well that post does not fit 'Be Nice'
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 the first couple of lines do seem to answer the question, but then it degenerates.
2:12 PM
It was already greying. and grey hair gets stiff and unmanageable.
i think i was done with long hair.
I R/A flagged it indeed
@Ollie still, fluff and noise can be removed. I honestly don't see direct offense towards other people.
its just a big rant
^ That one.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 From my POV, most of it is fluff and noise.
2:14 PM
@Luuklag it's "Here, see what I do with my children, you're doing it wrong" answer with lots of noise. But meh, won't fight you. :D
Downvoted both, but still not convinced enough to red flag. Mod will probably nuke them soon anyway. ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 "Then bam your gone with the other 40 million missing little girls that are being traded right now for sex with some fat slob of and old man that want to do mean vile things to you. So now how do you feel about your question online with a bunch of adults you do not know. Adults that should have fucking ignored you and did lilke your parents and sent you to bed."
this aint a nice part
@GWarner well gray hairs for me too, didn't notice any difference in the texture of the hair though.
@Luuklag it's not directed at anyone specific as far as I can tell, it's a general rant towards the unfair world/life.
Looks like the author went through some not very nice things, so trying to warn others. Dunno.
2:18 PM
Put ! in front. @GWarner
This will force onebox as image.
I have corase grizzlly like hair. so its even worse.
I spent so much on conditioner and oils.
just to have hair I had to keep in a ponytail down to the middle of my back
2:19 PM
Never used conditioner, not even when I had long hair. Neither any oil.
I do use some moisture cream though every day to keep the hair at bay.
so is anti combing a cultural thing? or you just blessed with silken hair?
@GWarner lol no idea, I just use the cream in the morning, organize the hair in the way I want it to be with my hands, and that is it. :)
Well i'll be Bach.
Bach is good, but hope you mean back.
I have scary thing next to me, halp!
oh it's only a cat. sigh of relief
@Mithical you're a brave soldier, you'll come to protect me if I need, right? :D
Sorry, I'm strictly non-combat. ;)
2:27 PM
ooh, non-combat soldiers are a thing?
@KevinB πŸ”¨
@Sha Thanks for the bounty o/
@JohnDvorak The majority of soldiers here are non-combat
Like, I'm in communications / tech
@Mithical but... but... you're a soldier! Well, maybe just seeing you in uniform would be enough to turn away bad people. :P
2:30 PM
(I don't know if Sha paid any attention, but my shoulder tag is covered in binary)
Friend of mine does some sort of computer tech job in Alaska. He enjoys the work specifically, but not so much being far from home and all.
@Spevacus to be honest, meant to give it to @Ollie when starting the bounty, but now when going over your answer realized you spent much more effort on it, so deserve it more. ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 wait, that was for me? The dirty bas-
Nah, you're right ;)
Take this instead:
2:31 PM
I thought we closed more questions during the burnination tbh but I guess it really was only 2...
!!/coffee Ollie
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 brews a cup of Macchiato for @Ollie
20 years from now ^^
zero hair
2:31 PM
dies laughing
comes back as ghost to hunt @Rob
I was only prepared to spend so much time on that.
@Rob it was well spent, judging from the reaction.
2:32 PM
Mobile apps.
@Mithical I did, Yaakov even asked you directly about it :)
@Spevacus wow, that's really far lol
@Mithical hmm? What is it pointing at?
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 what if this had been implemented? Can't change your mind after that.
2:34 PM
@Ollie good point, might edit my answer adding a new reason. ;)
@Mithical ohh lol, wasn't familiar with that.
Anime Wizard!
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 especially this one. @Tink makes a good point about commitment.
oh I still owe you selfie with sunglasses and the mask
@Ollie +1
Or I could write an answer...
@JohnDvorak there are several "stages" of combat-ability (?) for IDF soldiers. The most basic/low get very basic weapon training when starting to serve, but don't get to hold weapons afterwards, unless there's case of emergency.
@Ollie sure, go ahead! ;)
2:39 PM
so you're always at risk of being told to start killing.
I mean... no.
I was told that even in the very rare case where I have a weapon (which did happen a few months ago), that it's always better to not aim to kill. Use it only in self-defense, and preferably not to kill.
@JohnDvorak hmm after reading about it now, I was wrong.
Those without proper training won't be called to fight with weapons even in case of war.
@Mithical you're רובאי 02, right?
I am 03. :D
...I think so?
Did you go through several weeks of training? @Mith
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 I can't be sent into combat, but I can be told to take a weapon along when going on an operation.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 two weeks
2:42 PM
@Mithical yeah for self defense
@Mithical sounds enough, you're רובאי 02 then. ;)
I did basic training 02, so...
What kind of operations?
In my case? Communication equipment fixes.
The exact details are secret ;)
top secretz
@Mithical well that's true even for the most skilled and trained soldiers, it's always best to try not to kill the enemy, unless it's really a must.
So it's called "neutralize the enemy" as far as I remember.
2:46 PM
If they ever find the need here in NL, I can be called into service. Not that I have any training or so.
Of course many times it results in dead enemy, but still....
@Luuklag huh. So you'll just be given a weapon and sent to battle?
invading NL
I... kinda doubt that? You'll probably have to do some sort of basic training... if only just to learn how the weapon works.
Trial and error!
Shooting your comrades is awesome way to learn quickly.
Once you turn 18 you get a letter, that they postponed calling people for mandatory service. But when the need arises you can still be called
I bet Tink also has had such a letter
Did it ever happen, since WW2?
2:50 PM
I think my dad was one of the last to be called before they postponed it, then nothing happened
This is a list of wars involving the Kingdom of the Netherlands and its predecessor states since 1560. During the first war after 1560, namely the Eighty Years' War (1566–1648), the set of united provinces that would later become the Dutch Republic proclaimed its independence in 1581. United Provinces, or Dutch Republic (1581–1795) Batavian Republic (1795–1806) Kingdom of Holland (1806–1810) Sovereign Principality of the United Netherlands (1813–1815) United Kingdom of the Netherlands (1815–1839) Kingdom of the Netherlands (1839–present)For earlier wars, see List of wars in the Low Countries until...
We do have voluntary reserves though, they do stuff every now and then
@Luuklag UN, I think.
Nah more like humanitarian relieve and stuff
2:51 PM
Peacekeeping by the United Nations is a role held by the Department of Peace Operations as "a unique and dynamic instrument developed by the organization as a way to help countries torn by conflict to create the conditions for lasting peace". It is distinguished from peacebuilding, peacemaking, and peace enforcement although the United Nations does acknowledge that all activities are "mutually reinforcing" and that overlap between them is frequent in practice.Peacekeepers monitor and observe peace processes in post-conflict areas and assist ex-combatants in implementing the peace agreements they...
Not those folks? ^
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 those are enlisted soldiers
I'd assume
Do you still do milu'im, @Sha?
@sha, this is what the reserve does: nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militaire_reserve
in dutch though
But basically non-combat tasks, like security details when there are many people on deployment, or large events etc.
Or other specialist jobs they lack the manpower for
Like IT staff etc.
well im off, cya guys
@Mithical nope, got my Χ€Χ˜Χ•Χ¨ when I turned 40
I did serve lots of times though over the years, lots of good memories. :)
@Luuklag heh, nice.
3:18 PM
They could always call you to fill and place sandbags.
3:46 PM
Did it!
Hair bit longer, and glasses reflect the sun. ;)
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 that mask looks a bit like a piece of a trash bag.
lol maybe it is! :D
But yeah it's used, I had it in my pocket for several weeks as we didn't have to use masks until recently.
Kept it because used it only for short while, weeks ago.
We still don't have to wear masks while out in the open, only when inside closed spaces with lots of people, like supermarket. (Where I was headed)
Or on the bus.
Not that you'd know it by looking at a bus.
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 our governor's relaxed masking a bit for vaccinated people; although a couple people at the town meetings have overlooked the "for vaccinated people" part...
@Mithical yup
@Mithical how? Windows are transparent. Or should be.... ;)
@Ollie heh. Here the variant hit also vaccinated people, so it's for everyone.
3:54 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMaskV2 ...because nobody actually wears a mask on the bus. (I do. But most people aren't.)
We don't use buses thanks to where we live, although we're one car down thanks to a screwed axle, so
4:10 PM
@Sha 'll be back!
The Wizinator
4:34 PM
\o @Ayo
5:28 PM
anyone here familiar with SE data explorer?
@GWarner what do you want to know?
what language is query done in.
ive been looking at some queries for sake of editting legacy posts but i'd like to fine tune an existing one (i guess thats a 'fork'
@GWarner It is sql server, so it is T-SQL, also mentioned on the last page of the tutorial: data.stackexchange.com/tutorial/next-steps
oh i missed that. thanx
6:03 PM
Sir Elton Shadow "I'll be Bach!"
6:26 PM
Hey people! Do you have any idea how long will SE/SO employees take to reply after contacting them through contact page?
I contacted them a month ago and still didn't get a response.
I am not sure if asking a question in MSE would be the right thing to do. That's why I'm asking in chat.
Depends on what you contacted them about.
@Glorfindel hmm.. I already read that question. The answer was written in 2017. Is the answer out-dated? Did the procedure change?
@Mithical hmm.
@RandomPerson no, but the amount of people available to answer did (it decreased).
Some things won't get a response at all, if it's dismissed out of hand
6:33 PM
I don't need to know what you asked, but apparently it's non-trivial :)
If a longer amount of time is expected, then usually the assigned individual will send a ticket saying something along the lines of "We are looking into this but it may take a while." I didn't get any such ticket and the definition of "receive a response shortly" varies from person to person.
@Glorfindel Who left the team?
@Mithical That's weird..
Q: Why is SE gutting the CM team?

Mad ScientistIt looks like SE has fired two of the most experienced CMs just now. What does this mean for the community, and for the plans SE has for the future of the network? In a blog post about new feedback mechanisms SE identified the following challenge: Difficulty scaling support for moderators fr...

it's easier to answer who remained ...
@Glorfindel In the answer, JNat and animuson were mentioned. If I'm not wrong, they are still working for SE/SO
@Glorfindel Yup. It is non-trivial.
@Mithical :(
6:51 PM
@RandomPerson Jnat is a cm, animuson and grace note are support abd that's cm adjacent.
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