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Rob
Rob
00:06
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M.A.R.
M.A.R.
02:13
@NobodyNada Why so hostile to fishing attempts? Is it mating season?
@HovercraftFullOfEels Partly. But there is other things that may be harder to understand. Much psychology, actually. That so many people get upset is a count on this, I guess. — Leo Dec 1 at 2:08
For the nth time, why do people think implying that there's something 'wrong' with someone's psychology if they get downvoted will win people over?
NobodyNada
NobodyNada
yeah, if you Google key phrases it's all over the 'net going back to at least June
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
It's a step up from a millionaire Nigerian prince, you have to admit
> I'm new to c++ and I didn't found anything on this.
TIL only founders can C++
I was always in the presence of greatness and didn't know it
Andrew your small avatar mask looks like something from Mad Max.
RIP Immortan Joe
On another note, people are still being pissed off when shown a ready-made answer.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
03:21
@M.A.R. And he will go to valhalla all SHINY AND CHROME
 
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Kenn Sebesta
Kenn Sebesta
05:37
Okay, here's a meta meta question. Once upon a time I read a wonderful explanation of why people ask a question on SE instead of searching themselves. I'm a little hazy about the exact particulars of an answer, but basically it explained that it's because searching gives a wall of answers which require domain specific knowledge to wade through, when the questioner was just trying to get over a hump so as to focus on the problem at hand. Like trying to revert an accidental git disaster, or get a compiler to do its thing.
 
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Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
06:53
@KennSebesta Have you tried MSO as well? Sounds like something that might actually be on MSO...
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
07:27
@KennSebesta this one?
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A: Why do people post questions that they could Google in 5 seconds?

Nicol BolasBecause they genuinely cannot "google that in 5 seconds". Allow me to explain. When people are searching for a solution to a problem, they sometimes enter a kind of "search mode". They read everything with a filter over their eyes. That filter is designed to search for solutions to the problem t...

Ironically, first result on Google:
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:-D
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
07:49
That's weird, someone using Smokey marked this as not spam???
It's 10000% spam, pure and raw.
Ryan M
Ryan M
@Shadow10YearsWizard I think I'm with tripleee here; it's responding to comments on this post. If that one wasn't spam, I'm not sure this one is either.
I assume they've lost the credentials to their original account.
Rob
Rob
Agreed, Sha see here: bicycles.stackexchange.com/questions/959/…
Rob
Rob
08:18
Caution: Irony Loop
 
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Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
Sonic the K-Day Hedgehog
10:11
@rene Ha, nice use of dupe closure here meta.stackexchange.com/questions/357446/boot-device-not-found
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@RyanM didn't see any such comment or post by user with that name. It is answer promoting a site with the same name as the user display name, without attribution. In my dictionary, it's pure spam. Spammer might have also copied something from existing post, it's not rare.
I don't mind being in the minority group, I flagged and can't do much further anyway.
rene
rene
@SonictheK-DayHedgehog yeah. I didn't feel spending much time on it.
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
10:26
@Luuklag k
Luuklag
Luuklag
Thx for the confirmation @Shadow10YearsWizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Luuklag tp
!!/coffee and tea for Luuk
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of Americano for @and
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
o_O
sdc O_o
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Shadow10YearsWizard No such command 'o-o'.
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
10:32
Huh? "_" turns to "-"? Why? lol
sdc tea Spe
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Shadow10YearsWizard brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @Spe
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
taking passion of the fruit and throwing on @M.A.R. and @Ollie
Feeds
Feeds
10:52
stackoverflow.blog/2020/12/04/…
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Tinkeringbell so, just wondering... based on the Bash preview.... Will you start posting random pictures of maps, references to Konami code and ninja turtles in about 10 days from now? :P
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I'm not allowed to tell :P
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Tinkeringbell Are we allowed to organize a mass comment bomb just for you in case there is a new "Hairboat" style hat?
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
I'm not allowed to tell :P
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
I mean, would be only logical to assume that there will be an hat for sending the parrot at least 10 comment a day for 10 days :P
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
11:05
It would also only be logical to be suspended for excessive discussion in comments if you did so :P
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
11:31
@Tinkeringbell but but but Bash! Didn't the even exist just so that we can do all the bad stuff at once in that few days and then be nice the rest of the year? Furthermore, who said they wouldn't be relevant. They could all be seasonal wishes and greeting postcard - what could be more relevant than that....
I could even make all the comments about crocheting
.....
Jokes aside, wonder if the hats will be new
and to be fair, I wonder if animuson got his old idea implemented.
The gatcha thing.
Also, will the knitting be back? If they do, I think at least they would have to change something in the color background, don't know if it would fit the current site palette
Luuklag
Luuklag
12:11
@JNat cross-sote spammer: stackexchange.com/users/20130444/dennis-raymundo
Luuklag
Luuklag
12:21
Very productive one this one
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
12:32
@Luuklag What's that thing they usually say about job-hunting? It's the amount of applications you send, not the quality of them? :P
 
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Luuklag
Luuklag
13:55
@Tinkeringbell I doubt he'll get any with this quality. And yeah esoecially for junior poaitions that could be true. But if I would apply for 3 positions today chances are I get offered a job by atleast 2, if not all 3.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
14:26
@Luuklag Are there that little < whatever you do's > ?
That's kinda nice to know though.
Feeds
Feeds
14:52
The Overflow #50: A CS degree from Big Tech
Ryan Donovan on December 04, 2020
Welcome to ISSUE #50 of the Overflow! This newsletter is by developers, for developers, written and curated by the Stack Overflow team and Cassidy Williams at Netlify. We lined up a whole bunch of goodies for our big five-oh: how to write a great resume from a hiring manager who reads hundreds each year, the etiquette of pull…
Luuklag
Luuklag
@Tinkeringbell when we have a vacancy its really hard to find someone. So I guess so...
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Luuklag Well, it's kinda bad they can't easily find replacements or fill vacancies, but it would be reassuring to know that you won't be let go soon or can easily find another employer :)
Kenn Sebesta
Kenn Sebesta
@Shadow10YearsWizard Yes, that's exactly it! Thanks.
@Shadow10YearsWizard Because of course it was. I had tried with several search patterns, such as the natural language question, "why do people ask questions on stackexchange instead of searching" and got a lot of SE results... but none which were this. Mea culpa and thanks again!
Rob
Rob
15:24
@Shadow10YearsWizard Look what you did 💥🔨
user400654
user400654
15:47
🚽
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
15:57
@KennSebesta cheers! :)
@KennSebesta well @Tink gave the hint of MSO, so credits go to her as well. ;)
@Rob tried to close it as duplicate of the one in China, hammer hit too hard. Oops.
@user400654 that's a duplicate.
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
16:18
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе yes, think Yaakov hinted there will be some new hats.
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
17:02
So... I couldn't resist... playing for 7 years in a free-to-play game which of course let the players pay to buy the good stuff. I didn't want to spend money on it, but ended up just buying two existing accounts, $200 each. Taking comfort knowing those who sold them spent way more than x10 though, it's crazy.
At first I was amazed it's legit to have "sock accounts" and interact with each other, but it's very common in that game. Guess when money is involved, the company simply doesn't care.
M.A.R.
M.A.R.
@Shadow10YearsWizard nooooo . . . cyanide
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
17:38
@Shadow10YearsWizard "some" new hats.... Not criticizing anyone, but I still think that if they did a "contest" every year in November "design an hat and see it used during the Bash" they would save themselves money and work...
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@M.A.R. sure! :P
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе well but will they pay those who give the hats being used? If not, will they be able to sue SE for using something they did? It can get complicated, so I understand SE point of view, in that case.
The design team isn't the problem, I think, the bottleneck is the development time that is given to the developer(s).
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Shadow10YearsWizard .... you mean the ones posting content on SE, with TOS explicitly granting SE rights to reuse that content under the license they list in said TOS?
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе that's different
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Shadow10YearsWizard Free credits, yay. That should buy me another dinner :P
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
I don't think that an user claims that they weren't payed would stand much scrutiny after they posted on their free will a picture on a post that claimed "your picture could be used in next Winter Bash"
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
17:45
When the company running the site do commercial use of the content posted on the site, it won't be received well by some.
Spevacus
Spevacus
!!/tea Sha
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Spevacus brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @Sha
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Tinkeringbell only two Shadow Coins. Enough for, umm.... gummy bear!
Spevacus
Spevacus
steals the darjeel so it's just ing tea
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Shadow10YearsWizard And they "signed" their being nice with it the second they posted the picture on a question that clearly stated what would happen if they won.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
17:46
@Shadow10YearsWizard gummy bears are nice :D I have some wodka to make them even better ;)
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
user image
@Tink ^
Red, as you like.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Nice :D
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Tinkeringbell wodka? You mean vodka? ;)
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Shadow10YearsWizard Ah, yes.
Different language :P
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе sounded like you meant the users will post/send the full SVG code for the hat, i.e. full design project, not just mockup. If that's what you meant then you can ignore my previous replies. :)
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
17:48
@Shadow10YearsWizard If Nintendo is able to tell players in Animal Crossing Pocket Camp to post pictures of their camps and have the best ones published on the PAID FOR MEMBER ONLY montly game "electronic fanzine", I guess that SE can use hats made by users that expressed their consents to have them used in the first place by taking part in the context.
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Tinkeringbell still similar enough! I got drunk one time in my life, and it was from Vodka shots. :D
(think Grey Goose)
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе They could... but it would disgruntle some people that they even dare ask ;)
@Shadow10YearsWizard Not the worst choice, I guess :P
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
@Νеvеrꭑoꭇе if only ideas/mockup then sure.
@Tinkeringbell wasn't my choice, it was during my bachelor party, friends did it. :D
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Sounds familiar. The one time I was really drunk... it was a 'friend' that did it.
That's sad.
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Tinkeringbell well, those would probably be disgruntled even if SE added an option to cash out rep to real $$ because "the exchange rates are too low! I didn't work for so little money!!"
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
Shadow 10 Years Wizard
17:52
@Tinkeringbell yeah, remember you told something about it. :/
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
Νеvеrꭑoꭇе
@Shadow10YearsWizard to be fair I meant the final svg file, not just the idea. That was already done.
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A: What are the fantasy secret hats you'd wish to get?

BlueSoulSomebody HAD to do this. IT'S OVER NINE THOUSANDDDDD! (Vegeta hairs + Scouter Hat) View the profile page of at least 10 different users whose reputation exceed 9k points. and also: Super Sayajin You are Jon Skeet NOTE: The "scouter hat" idea (minus the Vegeta's hairs) was used in th...

and yep, I proposed the scouter hat in 2013, was used in 2015, two years later
Probably without even realizing I suggested it two years earlier.
The Twilight Sparkle hat instead... that proposal they still ignore as now....
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
18:42
TIL - questions on Meta.SE receive their first answer (modal value) three minutes after posting:
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Rob
Rob
@Shadow10YearsWizard We'll see, in 6-8 days.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
@Glorfindel And about half of those are yours? ;)
Rob
Rob
Their first answer is: "This question does not appear to be about the software that powers the Stack Exchange network, within the scope defined in the help center.".
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Tinkeringbell creates vanity query
Well, only 2%
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Not much vanity then :(
You do write fast answers though :)
Mine's rather all over the place, but I don't have that many answers either...
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
18:58
@Tinkeringbell “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity.”
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel Execution times out, or causes serious error when tried on Stack Overflow: "A severe error occurred on the current command. The results, if any, should be discarded. Operation cancelled by user.".
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Tinkeringbell yeah, the graph looks much better the more answer you have. On Math.SE, it's completely smooth.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
:D
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob yeah, I noticed. SO is simply too big for those kind of queries.
Feel free to fork it to include just the questions from 2020. I guess that should work.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Well I have more answers on IPS, but that didn't improve the graph XD
Rob
Rob
19:00
I was hoping you had the magic to retable (?) and work on a smaller set.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Oh huh... If I click on IPS when choosing a site I end up on meta, and if I click on IPS meta I end up with main... just a sec :P
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Tinkeringbell at least you take the time to write decent answers. I usually just dump whatever knowledge I have, and then refactor it into something worth reading ...
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
Yeah, I prefer writing the entire novel at once... It doesn't happen often that I edit it afterwards to add more.
Rob
Rob
19:13
@Glorfindel RPG and Travel (which have significant % answered and # of questions) have a similar shaped graph; which differs markedly from MSE:
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Somehow MSE got quite a few answered in less than one minute, but not so with RPG or Travel (was investigating if it was an artifact of the graphing).
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob self-answer
Rob
Rob
😀
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
I did mention it here, which is where the inspiration for the query came from.
Rob
Rob
😯 I thought you meant that I had answered my own question, here. Not someone else posted their own answer.
So I guess self-answers a few minutes later, which isn't uncommon, simply get added to the other people's answers - our expectation (?) being that the graph showed the helpfulness, not rubber duck moments.
Thanks for writing the query, and sharing it with us.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
19:29
@Rob here is a version which excludes self-answers.
@Rob you're welcome. I don't think we can do a lot with this information, but it's remarkable nonetheless. I haven't found a 'faster' site in the network yet.
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
;) Next time someone complains about FGITW... Meta is worse and no one is complaining there! :P
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
certainly
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel There's an idea for a modification, who is FGITW for the past year; excluding SAs, or year-by-year excluding Stack Overflow.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Before I write the query, I plead guilty ...
Tinkeringbell
Tinkeringbell
You can blame me for even hinting at the idea ;)
Rob
Rob
19:37
The "who" in my comment above meaning "which site" not a specific user overall.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob I think that's Meta. I've checked the base query for quite a few sites, and none were as quick. SO might qualify but I doubt it.
Rob
Rob
IE: Based on the above graphs only it's MSE, RPG and Travel third; but we might find another first place and are likely to find different candidates for the top few sites. --- Some sites just can't win: Physics and Quantum Computing come to mind, it takes a few minutes to hours to write an answer.
If the data period was limited to the past year Stack Overflow probably wouldn't timeout.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob sadly, it does :(
This is Meta for the past year (interestingly, the mode has shifted to 5-8 minutes).
Rob
Rob
Yikes. We need a Meta Request to give more omph to SEDE.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
no, we just need @rene
Rob
Rob
19:44
Are they a great Optimizer; I hear that Query Optimization is an art?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
yep
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel @Taryn (unpingable) too, rene didn't make either list on SO: stackoverflow.com/tags/tsql/topusers stackoverflow.com/tags/sql/topusers
Gordon won't be beat!
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob I think I found something: data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1340770/…
that's including self-answers BTW
so last year, it has been more FGITW-y than Meta.SE
Rob
Rob
So SO beats MSE, for this year (especially if quantity counts as a factor with speed) because with so many questions one must choose what to answer, and delay answering of another.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
20:00
It seems MSE gets its speediness mostly of the first years of existence (2009-2011).
Rob
Rob
Beats it by a fair bit (but we have slowed our response on MSE the past year, skewing the result).
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
... which isn't a bad thing IMHO.
Rob
Rob
^^ Rest on our laurels. 😀
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
:)
user400654
user400654
🪀
Rob
Rob
20:07
@Glorfindel going back to the original query, Physics maintains the traditional (recent) shape coming in at more than 12 minutes; but look at Quantum Computing - a state of superposition:
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Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob Heisenberg at work? xD
Rob
Rob
Yup, darn cats.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
that was Schrödinger :)
Rob
Rob
Self answered is unusually large ?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
certainly
Rob
Rob
20:14
Uncertainty is inability to measure, adding together is superposed - sources: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncertainty_principle en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_superposition
I (almost) have Mod Tools on QC.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
I did one course at the university, where we did a few chapters of Nielson and Chang.
Believe it or not, it's lying on my coffee table because one day I want to read it in full.
I just didn't have time for it the past 10 years or so ...
Rob
Rob
It's still The Bible:
Quantum Computation and Quantum Information
Quantum Computation and Quantum Information is a textbook about quantum information science written by Michael Nielsen and Isaac Chuang, regarded as a standard text on the subject. It is informally known as "Mike and Ike", after the candies of that name. The book assumes minimal prior experience with quantum mechanics and with computer science, aiming instead to be a self-contained introduction to the relevant features of both. (Lov Grover recalls a postdoc disparaging it with the remark, "The book is too elementary – it starts off with the assumption that the reader does not even know quantum...
A lot can change in ten years: "Researchers said their prototype took a little over three minutes to complete a task that would take the world’s fastest conventional machine 600 million years.". Source: scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3112649/…
Ollie
Ollie
20:32
Potentially bad keyword in answer, toxic answer detected: anime.stackexchange.com/a/61193/56482
;)
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob you have them now, Heisenberg notwithstanding
@Ollie you're Smokey's stand-in for tonight? :)
Ollie
Ollie
@Glorfindel Yep!
For the hour anyway.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
I forgot when Smokey reports posts in the Tavern (and I can't really read Python). It's after an x minute delay (but what is x? 5? 15?) and posts aren't reported if they have been deleted meanwhile? Or if they didn't have feedback yet?
Ollie
Ollie
Five. I think. But it's been 19 minutes and
A bit more: android.stackexchange.com/a/231657/333989
It still isn't gone.
rene
rene
@Rob I think this one works for SO : data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/1340803#graph
Ollie
Ollie
20:46
@Glorfindel Five minutes, they aren't reported here if they've been deleted. I usually just hang out around Charcoal HQ to react to Smokey's reports. Sadly, big guns aren't available around there...
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie that's why I'm wondering why Smokey itself didn't post a message.
Ollie
Ollie
@Glorfindel Yeah. I'm wondering too...
Maybe rene would know.
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel Thanks, looks nice next to my Guru badge. Here's a bug for you, the "Progress Bar" is misleading:
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Looks like I'm at the lowest possible level.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
Weird. Is that because you have exactly 2k rep?
rene
rene
@Ollie must have glitched somewhere.
sdc location
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
20:52
@rene teward/Osiris 69f6b02 (SmokeDetector: Auto unwatch of script-o-rama\.com by Spevacus)
rene
rene
Maybe Thomas his internet and powerlines are still wonkey
Rob
Rob
I guess, but it only goes to 5K and I'm 2/5ths of the way there.
Ollie
Ollie
Very nearly mod tools myself, now.
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel It's 5, but "experimental" detections aren't reported here at all.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie yes, five minutes, unless the post has been FP'd or ignored: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/blob/master/…
@Rob ah, and 'toxic answer' is still experimental.
Ollie
Ollie
20:56
Thanks @Glorfindel
Will the new editor be presented soon?
Rob
Rob
@Glorfindel The List of Experimental Reasons for Smokey.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie Meta.SE is one of the more interesting sites to see deleted posts.
Ollie
Ollie
@Glorfindel Like... ?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob thanks. I would've expected toxic_check to return that somehow. But perhaps I'm too old-fashioned ...
Ollie
Ollie
Does "deleted posts" include quick-deletions for mod redactions?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
21:03
@Ollie perhaps not right now, but a year ago when the Code of Conduct was ... discussed ...
Ollie
Ollie
Ah.
Rob
Rob
Easiest way to remember is "potentially" and "toxic" - but of course you'll never see it here.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
The number of questions asking for reposting/restoring deleted posts was rather alarming.
Ollie
Ollie
And how many undelete votes were cast instead of questions asked, Glorfindel?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie mod redactions are rare. I'm not sure what you meant by that.
@Ollie good question. One that I cannot answer via SEDE ...
@Rob thanks! Two years ago, I probably knew that. Not today ...
Ollie
Ollie
21:07
@Glorfindel Heard it from @Journeyman. When a mod redaction is underway, sometimes they'll delete the post to hide it from people. But 10K-ers can still see them, can't they? Unless there's some other wizardry at work.
Spevacus
Spevacus
@Ollie I know of no system that hides a post from 10kers if it's deleted and not already redacted/manually removed by a developer. So I would imagine 10kers could still view it pre-redaction.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie is that public already? I find it very hard to keep track of where I get information from. I've seen it in action on Teams but I have no idea what I can share.
Ollie
Ollie
@Glorfindel Ahh, it's on Teams. And no, it's not public. But I am excited to see it.
@Spevacus Yeah, guess it's not that important. There's only 8 full pages of 10K's here on Meta...
Rob
Rob
@Ollie Redact: Edit to remove, edit to deface, delete history, rollback - something like that - maybe @Glo has done it.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie yes they can, if they have a link to the post. But redactions are rare; they're only used when people disclose passwords or post really abusive stuff like child porn.
Spevacus
Spevacus
21:12
Really glad I haven't come across any of that ...
Ollie
Ollie
waffles
Never mind, I'll jinx it.
Spevacus
Spevacus
lol
Ollie
Ollie
:D
Spevacus
Spevacus
Ah, I see you're about 1k away from being able to see deleted posts, hence the discussion above.
You picked the right site to get it on, I suppose.
Ollie
Ollie
10K. But only 900-odd to go.
Rob
Rob
21:13
@Glorfindel I've shared a screenshot of the editor alone, with no surrounding text - my understanding is that's OK. It's just the Vegas Rule, not the Fight Club Rule.
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus ✓
Spevacus
Spevacus
Anyone could try out the free version of Teams, I think. They could play around with the new editor themselves during the trial period.
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus Really? How do I sign up?
Spevacus
Spevacus
@Ollie syrup
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Rob yeah, that's absolutely fine.
Spevacus
Spevacus
21:15
@Ollie You do, first, need a business e-mail. You can't use an e-mail from a service like gmail or w/e AFAIK. You just sign up with that using any of the many Teams links on stackoverflow.com.
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus Not with el trollear.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Ollie you qualify for a Charcoal Teams account
Rob
Rob
Credit Card too?
Spevacus
Spevacus
You could also join Charcoal and join their Team. I've seen you in Charcoal HQ before.
Speaking of which; are you privileged with SD? Have you asked yet?
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
(not that I can grant you access, but still ...)
Rob
Rob
21:16
Need to ask.
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus SD?
Spevacus
Spevacus
SmokeDetector
Ollie
Ollie
Unfortunately not. I was too smart one day and it's still sulking.
Rob
Rob
If you have to ask rule ...
Ollie
Ollie
But that'd be good.
@Spevacus How to ask?
Spevacus
Spevacus
21:19
I just pressed "Esc" and cleared the massive wall I had just typed >_>
Ollie
Ollie
_/**_/
@Spevacus Really.
Spevacus
Spevacus
You can ask in Charcoal HQ by simply posting a general message asking for privileges and mentioning that you read an introduction to participating. A fierce affinity for destroying spam and rude/abusive content across the network is also appreciated ;) - Charcoal admins are pretty loose about who becomes privileged, provided they use those privileges correctly and accept advice when necessary, so don't sweat it too much.
Rob
Rob
if you have to ask, big man, you can't afford it
►
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus I definitely have the affinity to destroy spam and abusive stuff across the network, but it seems like I'm never present when spam is posted. Only like 3-5 posts. Unless there are waffles.
Spevacus
Spevacus
Ohhh trust me. Spend awhile in Charcoal and get to know what qualifies as spam or rude or abusive a bit better, and you'll be contributing to quite a bit of spam destruction.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
21:24
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 39 secs ago, by metasmoke
PR#5150 ("Give privs to Ollie") opened by Glorfindel83
Ollie
Ollie
@Spevacus Very well. I'll read the intro and ask.
@Glorfindel Oh, thanks! I'll be able to use !!/report now.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
no, not yet
somebody has to approve it
Spevacus
Spevacus
Heh, perhaps hold off on asking, but definitely show your face over in CHQ and say hello, at least. Glorfindel made a PR, a Charcoal code maintainer will have to merge it for it to work properly.
Ollie
Ollie
I'll do that.
@Glorfindel While they do that, I need to be going now
Ta
And thanks for the help and privs, Glorfindel, Splevacus.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
yw
Spevacus
Spevacus
21:26
@Glorfindel You apparently have to add him to the list of privileged users in rooms.yml for Charcoal HQ. I'm following along with this commit's diff.
Glorfindel
Glorfindel
@Spevacus apparently I need to RTFM
thanks
Spevacus
Spevacus
LOL. No worries.
Rob
Rob
@Ollie When you get back type:
!!/amiprivileged
SmokeDetector
SmokeDetector
@Rob ✓ You are a privileged user.
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
22:11
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Rob
Rob
22:59
MGM removes paywall from James Bond movies. 🕵️
user400654
user400654
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Feeds
Feeds
23:46
Linguists, settling some inscrutable grudge, have been steadily sneaking more backdated synonyms for 'sharing borders' into the dictionary. They've added 'contiguous,' 'coterminous,' 'conterminous,' and next year they're adding 'conterguous.'

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