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Ollie

6:03 PM

Hello, @y'all.

rene

\o

Meta Andrew T.

Hi @Ollie and also @everyone!

Tinkeringbell

Hey. So. Quick straw poll... who's had/still going on a vacation trip this year?

M.A.R.

What's vacation

STV is now paid/premium/subscription right?

@Ollie Hi there

Ollie

Like, literally? Not me.

@M.A.R. Hi there.

Tinkeringbell

6:09 PM

@M.A.R. You know, those few weeks a year you're not enslaved to a boss, so you're instead a slave of consumerism and stressing about relaxing?

Meta Andrew T.

vacation as in day-off, yes, but certainly not a trip...

DavidPostill

this ^^^

Ollie

Quick question for y'all

M.A.R.

I'm calmer now. I apologize if my earlier comments raised any hairs. In my defense, I was earlier musing about why there's always an imbalance in a society's ethical dilemmas, which is really no one's fault

Ollie

Should we be able to follow locked posts? Can we already?

M.A.R.

6:11 PM

@Tinkeringbell OK what's boss

Is it some means of transportation?

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. In your case, teacher, perhaps?

M.A.R.

OH MY GOD RAISE THE ALARMZ

Tinkeringbell

@Ollie I think there was a report about that already.

Ollie

@Tinkeringbell really? Where?

Tinkeringbell

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Q: Cannot follow locked posts; wrong error message when attempting to do so

I just visited the question here, which is locked as a "community effort": What is a historical lock, and what is it used for? I (legitimately) wanted to "Follow" the question so that I would be notified if the status of those types of questions changed in the future. When I press the "Follow"...

M.A.R.

6:12 PM

@Ollie We should, doesn't make much sense why we shouldn't

Meta Andrew T.

since SE system is mainly made of... votes... I think following locked posts is currently blocked

M.A.R.

Should there be any restrictions on following posts?

Meta Andrew T.

I agree it doesn't make sense though

Tinkeringbell

@Ollie Also: meta.stackexchange.com/q/350752/369802, meta.stackexchange.com/q/349799/369802

Basically, the first three hits when you type 'follow locked' in the search bar ;)

M.A.R.

Kids these days.

Back in my day every feature was introduced as a bug unless proven otherwise

Meta Andrew T.

6:14 PM

like, upvote/downvote = votes, close/reopen/delete/undelete = votes, follow = votes, thanks = votes, edit = votes, comment = votes

user400654

i will most certainly go on a trip at some point this year, though, i don't consider most trips vacation

M.A.R.

Give it a couple of years, lots of bugs will slowly slowly dissolve away

user400654

vacation is staying at home and doing nothing

M.A.R.

When we pay a visit to grandma, it's often a two-hour rollercoaster of misery in the back seat of a car. I don't consider that a vacation either

Tinkeringbell

@user400654 I do agree with that. Staying home, that is. I like to do nothing, or watch TV, crochet, drink...

Make a puzzle.

M.A.R.

6:16 PM

Protip: If you ever paid a visit to Iran, move around with helicopters only, for the sake of your backbone

Tinkeringbell

I'm glad to hear there's more people that are saying 'no way' to travel right now ;)

@M.A.R. Did you see the earlier messages about the flying car?

Might be an option too :P

M.A.R.

I saw it but I didn't read it

Meta Andrew T.

@M.A.R. looks pricey than a bone...

M.A.R.

@MetaAndrewT. It also comes with lifetime health benefits, like being able to walk

Our roads are apparently very dangerous. There was this chart where red countries were with the highest number of accidents or fatal accidents or something like that, and we were a pomegranate

Half of it is the roads' fault, the other half the cars, and the third half the drivers

user400654

though... i likely won't take a trip this year. most of my trips involve going to see family, work on their houses/computers etc, but... it's easy to say no, and would be the smart thing to do for now

M.A.R.

6:22 PM

@user400654 my computer iz bork. can u fix ??? kthxbai

Lol what's up with Libya?

DavidPostill

@M.A.R. Reminds me of when I was in Kuwait many years ago, drivers would just go straight through red lights, presumably with the belief that Allah would keep them safe ... at the road side (in the adjacent desert) there were always many slowly rotting car wrecks ...

Rob

@M.A.R. Maybe incoming is a risk, as well as other vehicles.

Meta Andrew T.

1 TRAIN vs 3230 BUSES! Spiral of DESTRUCTION! (Open TTD)

►

DavidPostill

> Roads in conflict-riddled Libya, where petrol is cheaper than mineral water, rank among the deadliest in the world.

> Disregard for traffic rules, a dilapidated infrastructure and cars that fail to meet safety standards combine to make road accidents in Libya more lethal than incidents involving weapons.

Rob

Thanks.

DavidPostill

6:26 PM

Road Traffic Accidents The Number One Killer in Libya

M.A.R.

@DavidPostill If they said something like that they were kinda joking. Here at least, it's some sort of self-deprecating humor coating a cheap cop out, and it's often meant in a lighthearted way. Like, we have a saying, "Nothing happens to Bam's eggplants", meaning "I'm a loser and bad things only happen to good people"

DavidPostill

Lists a whole number of reasons why ...

Meta Andrew T.

Interesting, even though sometimes I'm already afraid of traffic in Indonesia...

DavidPostill

@M.A.R. Maybe, but is one reason to explain the large number of accidents.

M.A.R.

People also used to massively disregard traffic rules here, although they've been more ruly recently AFAICT

I think they drive Korean or Western cars often in Kuwait?

People here mostly only drive "Iranian" cars (which is mostly just an excuse for a bunch of arseholes to gulp down tons and tons of money). This Big Auto is also state-backed, and there are really heavy tariffs on foreign cars, two hundred something percent if I'm not wrong.

So, I personally think unsafe vehicles and VERY unsafe and substandard road conditions are really downplayed as factors contributing to fatality rate here.

OTOH, Greenland is really safe. My heart goes to all the polar bears.

Meta Andrew T.

6:34 PM

Aren't Western cars have flipped seating compared to Asian? Left vs right driver?

M.A.R.

Not sure it's so simple a distinction as Western vs. Asian

-16

Q: Are there views Meta does not approve of?

It's not a big deal but a comment I left on Leaving the site and the network - mid election is not the best, but there's no point in staying , basically commiserating with Yvette on her leaving, was removed without explanation. If one's comments, which I don't believe were rude or abusive are goi...

discussion comments deleted-comments

Of course there are . . . wait, the drama still goes on.

user400654

🤐

Rob

@DavidPostill Your source(?): jordantimes.com/news/region/roads-deadlier-guns-%C2%A0libya and mine: csmonitor.com/World/Middle-East/2020/0207/… 🔫&🚀 🚙

DavidPostill

@M.A.R. Regardless of that drivers still have a responsibility to drive in a manner that gives them time to avoid crashes/accidents. If your car is unsafe / roads are unsafe that puts even more responsibility on the driver ... in the UK we teach drivers to drive safely according to the conditions, whether that is the weather, the road surface or their cars.

M.A.R.

@user400654 I thought it was gonna be something about downrates and modz censorship

@DavidPostill Shrug I guess no one crashed intentionally

Rob

6:38 PM

My point govt propaganda is part of the reporting.

M.A.R.

Except mafia in some movies

i mean, it is

Ta, @everyone.

📯

@Ollie Ciao

@Rob TL;DR;

Meta Andrew T.

6:40 PM

@Ollie \o

oh, already left :|

Rob

@M.A.R. ES;DU

M.A.R.

Libyans have much bigger issues than unsafe roads :(

@Rob My German ist nicht that gut

Rob

Egyptian ?

M.A.R.

Arabic

Really broken, and I can't discern between dialects

Also what's with the French punctuation?

Mithical

hon hon oui baguette

M.A.R.

6:45 PM

j'aime le omelette du fromage

DavidPostill

@M.A.R. Nobody does. But that doesn't remove the responsibility of the driver(s) when it does.

M.A.R.

Shrug I'm not sure we're disagreeing on anything here

Rob

@M.A.R. ǁ

M.A.R.

@Rob §

Rob

@M.A.R. Since you wanted a shorter explanation that "click consonant" is pronounced like this: youtu.be/BbnKhgopOFU

Spevacus

6:52 PM

5

Q: Improved experience for users with review suspensions

This post details the first in a series of releases related to the ongoing work on Review Queues. It focuses on changes to the ways in which users who have been suspended from reviewing are notified of this event. These changes will be going live in the next few days (post to be updated when all ...

discussion featured review announcements review-suspensions

M.A.R.

TIL

@Rob Meh, don't have VPN on

Spevacus

\o/ Let there be review suspensions! (that are easily visible and informational!)

Rob

§

M.A.R.

He's done it again 👏 🙏

@Rob starred it, will check it out later

Rob

@YaakovEllis hopefully the Review suspensions will be available on MSE too.

Tinkeringbell

6:58 PM

@Rob Sure, want one?

lol

Pls no suspenderino

@Rob network wide

@Tinkeringbell Several, but I'm not going to list the guilty parties; let the software send it to a human reviewer who determines which of the reviewers is wrong and who made the best Review decision.

Spevacus

Review reviews

Tinkeringbell

7:00 PM

@Rob I meant whether you would want one so you could see what the new UI looks like for banned users :P

Rob

👏 @YaakovEllis

Meta Andrew T.

For... science..!

got banner

Rob

@Tinkeringbell You know I've no way to return the favor.

Tinkeringbell

:( I'll ask someone else then.

Rob

Thanks, there's plenty of needy.

M.A.R.

7:17 PM

You can suspend me so we can test whether the suspended would ever notice

Readies meta rant

Rob

MSO Election ends in 40 minutes.

Mithical

Only the meta Stack Overflow election? ;)

Spevacus

Imagine if the two sites didn't share mod teams.

Yikes

Tinkeringbell

@M.A.R. One more won't harm, especially one of yours ;)

Mithical

@Spevacus and now you know what MSE was like in the early days

....before my time

Ollie

7:23 PM

Hello again.

Spevacus

All that SO drama without the SO mods being able to extinguish the fires.

That had to have been fun.

Hello again Ollie!

M.A.R.

@Tinkeringbell Lalala cough cough clears voice Lalalalllaaaaaaa Get ready for some operaaaaa chokes on hairball

Ollie

The Fat Lady sings :)

M.A.R.

👋

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus I never envy them their job.

It takes a very steady person to moderate that.

Mithical

7:24 PM

@Tinkeringbell And now we see the violence inherent in the system!

Spevacus

Meta SE by comparison is quite tame. Heck, take the last SO debacle a day or two ago. Not much flow-over, JMG comment-locked a question for a day and that was that.

Rob

I edited to add a comma, which it accepted but now doesn't show; and it won't let me edit again. :|

M.A.R.

@Spevacus hey, don't judge the book by its cover

They've had to shovel through some thick sh!t.

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus Yeah. I wish we had comment locks back in September (we didn't, did we?)

M.A.R.

@CodyGray I tip my hat for the fact that you took the time to reply at length. So thank you for that. "Deleted in error" or "outlasted its usefulness" both seem a little thin. I'm far too old and experienced (in life, if not SO) to not see the writing on the wall. I'll stick to answering questions, as that at least, is not yet beset with politics but even that's changing. Once the "tarring and feathering", along with the "dusting" have been completed, you need to look about yourself and ask what is left? Will it be a shiny new citadel or a clean echo chamber? — Rolf of Saxony 4 hours ago

Mithical

7:26 PM

absolutely judge a book by its cover; that's what they're for

Rob

Better than runny.

M.A.R.

So this puts the responder in a dilemma. If we insist, we kinda lose, and yet, how can we correct Rolf's "echo chamber" assumption?

Yvette's departure meta post is highly upvoted at this moment.

@Mithical tsk tsk tsk former Literature mod, people.

Spevacus

@Tinkeringbell December, it seems, was when you guys were granted that ability

A good addition imo

Tinkeringbell

@Spevacus Yeah. That was kinda late to the party ;)

M.A.R.

You should judge a book by its babum opening.

Mithical

7:28 PM

@M.A.R. who believes that you should only read books you enjoy and the cover is a great way to make an initial assessment... especially the back cover

Tinkeringbell

Smell. Books are judged by smell.

And both new and dusty old smelling ones are great.

Rob

> Will it be a shiny new citadel or a clean echo chamber?

Mithical

you don't have time to read every book so don't even try - just try to pick the good ones

Rob

The pandemic brought us both.

M.A.R.

Here's a starting sentence: "Maria, I cannot be with you my love, for I will always be the alligator in the room" said David, pulling the trigger

Mithical

7:29 PM

*closes book, puts on swap shelf*

M.A.R.

@Mithical That's overly simplistic. How do you decide what you enjoy if you haven't experienced it yet? You need to either read reviews, select based on some criteria, or look at the cover.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@M.A.R. Where the wild 🌹 grow?

Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask on the wild 🐗

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Where the wild escape pods grow?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@M.A.R. easy! Escape room.

M.A.R.

7:30 PM

P.S. I like fantasy, but never fantasy cover artworks.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask and the escape room is in . . . escape house?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@MetaAndrewT. wrong. Near a river.

@M.A.R. city

M.A.R.

Maine

Meta Andrew T.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask With a beaver?

M.A.R.

Beavers are evil.

Source: B family movies

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@M.A.R. why shovel when you can use it as fertilizer?

M.A.R.

7:34 PM

If humankind didn't exist, they'd be the one wrecking the world instead

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It was too much fertilizer, it was poisoning the plants

Rush Hour 1 is on TV

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@MetaAndrewT. no. The beaver will eat the 🌹 and ruin the song.

@M.A.R. no rash?

M.A.R.

If this heat keeps up it might

It's midnight and 30 degrees. Another sleepless night

Rob

Awwww

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@M.A.R. so put it in a big garden, problem solved. ;)

M.A.R.

Almost as cute as kittens, and almost as evil

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

7:38 PM

@M.A.R. no air conditioner?

M.A.R.

Not in my room

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

30 celcius is pretty common here during summer.

Rob

Did a beaver eat your home?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@M.A.R. so sleep wherever there is...

M.A.R.

@ShadowWizardWearingMask It's common here too, but tell that to my medulla

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

7:40 PM

medu what?

M.A.R.

and mesencephalon

@ShadowWizardWearingMask la

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

La Vista?

M.A.R.

La Win10

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Anyway, avoid rash by changing underwear when they become wet with sweat. But guess you already know that... :D

Rob

An AC starts at U$150.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

7:43 PM

@Rob not yet

Rob

They're coming for him now.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob mobile? Here "real" A/C starts at $300

(real as in attached to the wall)

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask This 5000 BTU unit will leave you shivering, under a thick blanket and wearing a ski jacket, for $150; how cold do you want to be?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Well it probably can't cool a whole room?

Still, something @M.A.R might want. ;)

Rob

Even the walls and door are freezing, with the window admitting some heat - it's great when you live somewhere with free electricity.

Ollie

7:49 PM

@Tinkeringbell, there isn't really a waffles tag?

Tinkeringbell

@Ollie Nope ;)

Just this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/waffles ;)

Rob

Breathing in the freezing air cools you inside too. It's great, except everyone banging on your door trying to let the cold out; and yaking at length.

Ollie

@Tinkeringbell, I prefer my waffles on a breakfast plate, not on Meta :)

Tinkeringbell

Same here, though breakfast? They might be a bit too sweet for that, even for me!

They'll do as a snack :)

Ollie

I'll be logging out now, see y'all.

Tinkeringbell

7:53 PM

@Ollie You know you may also just silently disappear, right? ;) Most people do :P

Spevacus

Fizzle from existence like a true lurker ;)

Ollie

@Tinkeringbell, I do, but I prefer to say goodbye.

Rob

Ollie

Ninja vanish.

Tinkeringbell

Well, bye for now then!

Mithical

7:54 PM

lurk and nobody knows when you're actually watching and when you're asleep

Rob

Except 🎅

Mithical

ah yes the ubiquitous empty rectangle

Rob

> He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So be good for goodness sake.

Mithical

Ah, yes. Satan.

That was not a typo.

Rob

😈

Tinkeringbell

7:58 PM

I guess...

Both are similar!

Rob

🎅🤶 - There's also one for Santa's wife.

Tinkeringbell

Hmm.

Rob

👿😈 - Satan's wife too.

🏃🏃‍♀️ - Even running guy's wife.

Tinkeringbell

I didn't know either was married...

Rob

Mrs. Claus

Mrs. Claus (also known as Mrs. Santa Claus) is the mythical wife of Santa Claus, the Christmas gift-bringer in Western Christmas tradition. She is known for making cookies with the elves, caring for the reindeer, and preparing toys with her husband. == Origin == The wife of Santa Claus is first mentioned in the short story "A Christmas Legend" (1849), by James Rees, a Philadelphia-based Christian missionary. In the story, an old man and woman, both carrying a bundle on the back, are given shelter in a home on Christmas Eve as weary travelers. The next morning, the children of the house find an...

Tinkeringbell

8:03 PM

Aww, that's so sweet!

Sinterklaas doesn't have a wife... we should get him one.

Rob

Victoria Woodhull

Victoria Claflin Woodhull, later Victoria Woodhull Martin (September 23, 1838 – June 9, 1927), was an American leader of the women's suffrage movement. In 1872, she ran for President of the United States. While many historians and authors agree that Woodhull was the first woman to run for President of the United States, some have questioned that priority given issues with the legality of her run. They disagree with classifying it as a true candidacy because she was younger than the constitutionally mandated age of 35 (Woodhull's 35th birthday was in September 1873, seven months after the March...

Tinkeringbell

hahaha

Rob

That's what it says, other references were personal attacks against living people; so I didn't propagate the hate.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob where you take all of this from?

@Rob only heat?

Rob

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Take what?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:08 PM

@Ollie goodbye!

@Rob advertisements

Rob

Did you reverse your reply pings, to what you were referring to?

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

suspecting @Rob works for A/C manufacturer

@Rob nope, no reverse this time. Just Drive.

Rob

> Shadow: "where you take all of advertisements from?"

There is no Ad.

Rubiksmoose

Does Krampus have a wife?

Mithical

38

Q: 2020 Community Moderator Election Results

Stack Overflow’s twelfth moderator election has come to a close, the votes have been tallied and the two new moderators are: They’ll be joining the existing crew shortly—please thank them for volunteering, and share your assistance and advice with them as they learn the ropes! For details on ho...

discussion featured election

2

Rob

8:11 PM

Thanks.

Double Mac

Tinkeringbell

@Mithical Nice. Both are very good choices, I think, from the little I've seen so far :)

user400654

👍

Mithical

They were my first and second choices, so I happen to agree ;)

Tinkeringbell

I can't vote for elections on MSO... and I must admit I usually don't even keep track. This one spilling over to MSE changed that a little.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob I see. Only Ed. All good then! 👍

Tinkeringbell

8:14 PM

So I read some more too, and made some mental choices. They align too :)

Rubiksmoose

@Tinkeringbell Indeed! I've mostly interacted with them for Charcoal stuff and they seem like lovely people.

Spevacus

They were also my first and second choices. Great folks, eager to see how they do, even if I'm not a big SO user ;D

Rob

Ouch: 5 rounds until a knockout (TJ).

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Anyway, starting today 14 days of full quarantine. :/

Rob

:( - Best wishes.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:16 PM

Thanks!

Mithical

g'luck

Rob

Now, if you'd bought that Air Conditioner ...

🌬️

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizardWearingMask Did I miss something? You're not sick, are you?! worries

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob we have A/C in every room, house was renovated couple of years ago. ;)

Rob

🆒

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:20 PM

@Mithical thanks!

@Tinkeringbell didn't miss because I didn't tell before. A kid who is with my son at school every day was diagnosed today as Corona positive, so all kids in the class are sent to quarantine.

Tinkeringbell

Ah, that sucks :(

I hope nothing comes your way!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Since 7 years old kid can't be in quarantine alone, all family has to do it.

Tinkeringbell

:(

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Tinkeringbell thanks! Not worried for myself, but rather for people who are at greater risk who were in contact with me.

Tinkeringbell

I'm not much of a 'going out' person, but I'd hate not being able to go for an hour walk a few times a week!

user400654

8:24 PM

i mean... that's one way to initiate a lockdown without initiating a lockdown

Tinkeringbell

Yeah, that's true. It's definitely better to quarantine a few than have a full lockdown, if you can get to it early enough!

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@user400654 nah, overall around 100k people in Israel are in quarantine, out of 7M citizens. Hardly a drop in the sea...

So the 6.9M not in quarantine keep spreading the Corona all over the place... 😳

user400654

we're starting to cross the 1500 positive a day threshold now

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Tinkeringbell most of the times there is a delay of few days, so I'm afraid not really early enough.

@user400654 same here. MoH says 2000 is the red line. (for a full lockdown)

Though probably it will get to 3000 before it actually happens.

Tinkeringbell

We've had cases almost double (from around 500 to almost a 1000) the past week, R is now 1.29... :/ We're not going to do great either, I believe.

user400654

8:31 PM

a month ago our "bad days" were 250 cases

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

Human factor is always the weak spot.

Rob

user400654

now we're hitting 1500 and people are still like "Oh it's fine it'll go away, i don't need a mask,"

Rob

There's definitely some hot spots.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@Rob waves

@Rob not really. The empty or less crowded spots are simply places without people.

(or without Corona checks)

Compare to population density maps, and you'll have a match.

@user400654 exactly

Can't help thinking that if the symptoms were more severe (e.g. becoming a zombie 🧟‍♂️ ;)) people would take it more seriously.

user400654

8:37 PM

i mean, they're already pretty severe?

Rob

North America is really soaring too, since the 4th of July (Independence Day); where people now just do whatever, though a large number remain responsible.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

@user400654 Not enough, it's like bad case of flu.

Rob

It can cause organ damage, including neurological problems.

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

And since "ordinary" flu also kills older people or people with other health issues, it's easy to underestimate Corona.

@Rob yup. Still, high recovery rate and lack of actual detail about post Corona symptoms.

One good thing, I'll be back to 5-6 hours of sleep.

Rob

CU

Shadow Wizard Wearing Mask

8:41 PM

U2

M.A.R.

@Rob Please disclose your affiliation with said . . . washing machine air conditioner thingy. Flags as spam

Rob

It's not funny when everyone can see there's a few dozen different manufacturers.

M.A.R.

@user400654 A disease with a mortality rate of around 10 percent is exponentially more scary than one with 5.

user400654

eh, depends though

M.A.R.

@Ollie there used to be, but meta is no longer fun

And I dunno if that's a good or a bad thing, it's just a natural consequences of being bigger

user400654

8:52 PM

with such a high mortality rate, they'd need to be unsystematic but contagious, or for it to take a decent amount of time to result in death for the spread to be uncontrollable

M.A.R.

The thing with COVID is it's still a distant thing for most people. Something that we heard in the news and got an epinephrine rush for a few months ago.

Rob

Plague and Ebola have much higher mortality, and uglier death. It's the seemingly low consequences that people think might result from C19 that leads to the carefree attitude and the continuing spread.

user400654

or the fact that you could get it with mild symptoms, brush it off as just another cold, and spread it

M.A.R.

Consequently, as is the 21st century humanity's wont, we're looking to justify or rationalize not having to wear something that makes us uncomfortable.

@user400654 That's also one other thing, albeit true, that people use to justify not being careful

user400654

it's all fine and dandy... until it's not

Rob

8:56 PM

The right to make the wrong decision, no matter the cost; until it was legislated against.

M.A.R.

It's just humans being lazy. We're more technologically advanced than we ever were, so people are thinking to unbuckle the proverbial belt and let loose.

user400654

like, oh, we're only using 10% of available icu beds, it's fine, we can just ignore it

(lets ignore the fact that said bed usage has doubled in the past 2 weeks)

M.A.R.

in English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jun 30 at 15:36, by M.A.R.

@Cerberus Oh but you're in the cold, cut-and-dry Europe. If your fatal accidents per year is a smaller stat, it must be because you do not possess the American freedom to go crash into something.

user400654

masks are "mandated" here, but there's no official enforcement. some businesses are taking it upon themselves to enforce it

Rob

@M.A.R. When the insurance bill arrives, the truth be told.

Rob

9:19 PM

Even many things not involving a crash cause a jump in your insurance, such as texting or speeding.

M.A.R.

@Mithical excellente!

Congrats both

^ In 1000 years, this message will be dug up and used for linguistic studies

I like that the onebox keeps you in suspense " . . . the votes have been tallied and the two new moderators are: They’ll be joining the existing crew shortly . . . "

Ann Zen

10:28 PM

@Dharman Did someone win? I couldn't see.

Dharman

Yes, Machavity and Makyen

Was it you inviting me into this room?

Ann Zen

Yeah.

Dharman

ohh ok, because I was very confused

Ann Zen

Well, you can go now, I got my answer :)

Dharman

@AnnZen You can see the results here: opavote.com/results/5154305393819648

Ann Zen

10:31 PM

CrazyPython won against Tschallacka.

Dharman

yeah, crazy

and I got 4th place

Ann Zen

Congrats.

Dharman

out of 6 candidates

not much of a success

Ann Zen

Do users get to live the rounds, or does the rounds end in a flash?

Dharman

What? I am alive, aren't I?

Ann Zen

10:42 PM

@wim Hi, I can't message there.

wim

hello

yeah I noticed

Ann Zen

@Makyen Congratulations! You were my first choice.

Dharman

Mine too

Makyen

@AnnZen Thank you, both. :)

wim

10:58 PM

@AnnZen What's with bounties on old meta posts?

I am just confused because some of those are years old and not really interesting any more

Ann Zen

@wim oops, left too soon

@wim I'm interested.

wim

ok. why?

Ann Zen

I just so happened to be interested :)

wim

well, I think it's unlikely they will get new answers because of bounties. They were able to get some new downvotes, though :)

Ann Zen

I'm sorry to hear that. I'll pay attention not to set a bounty on your post next time.

wim

11:05 PM

oh, no matter, I don't mind. was just curios that's all

e.g. meta.stackexchange.com/q/156811/162650 is actually resolved, it doesn't need new answers or draw attention.

the bandwagon effect that cause that was explained in comments already

Ann Zen

Done.

wim

the question that it was concerned about (which got incorrectly closed twice) is now my second highest scored one and is not really in any danger of being closed/deleted any more.

Ann Zen

Yeah, when I see an interesting post, I want to draw more attention to it.

rene

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Ann Zen

@rene It's not.

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