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3:57 AM
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A: Does Stack Exchange really want to conflate newbies with women/people of color?

TheLittleNarutoPlease do not even post such issue, It's not a social platform. on StackOverflow everyone is a developer first, gender or color never comes in picture. We have rich set of FAQ; if one reads it carefully, even if a user is a newbie he'll understand the quality of posts they should post. Better avo...

@Dro Edit if required.
 
4:10 AM
@PrincessLuna oh...hey Luna
@TheLittleNaruto looks fine to me
 
@DroidDev Cool
 
@TheLittleNaruto lava (?)
 
4:30 AM
I want to know what is @ShadowWizard opinion on my above answer ^
Oh lol someone downvoted my answer
 
4:49 AM
@TheLittleNaruto I agree with the concept, but it's slightly malformed imo.
@DroidDev hey ^w^
 
@PrincessLuna Can you make a edit Please 😀
Ok thanks
 
@TheLittleNaruto I think that user is being sarcastic and supporting your point in the comment. Not sure though, listening to songs and writing code, so mind isn't working properly on other things
 
5:30 AM
@DroidDev Ohh! I am sorry I didn't get it at first place.
In any case, time to listen to this song: youtube.com/watch?v=DWPIRXzyVDU
 
@TheLittleNaruto did you check the picture I sent in whatsapp group, about solving complexity of multiple recursive calls to function?
its pretty cool, and once you get it, you'll feel awesome
 
@DroidDev Yes I knew this concept, In fact I was asked a question of such kind @Citrix which I failed to solve at that time.
 
@TheLittleNaruto oh.....so do you get how to solve it now? What if I ask you a similar question, will you be able to gimme its complexity?
 
@DroidDev I may try
The main concept to understand that logic is, why it is logn
why not n or 2n or n^2
 
int f (int n) {
  if (n <= 1)
    return 1;
  return f(n - 1) + f(n - 1) + f(n - 1) + f(n - 1);
}
@TheLittleNaruto what will be the complexity here?
same question
 
5:47 AM
@DroidDev It'll be same, Isn't it ? Because In any case depth is same
However space complexity will be more since we're holding values of 4 calls of functions in memory
 
@TheLittleNaruto wrong, re-read the explanation that I sent
 
for every recursive call
@DroidDev wrong in space or time complexity ?
I doubt I am wrong
 
@TheLittleNaruto in time complexity
 
@DroidDev Could you tell me how am I wrong? The screenshot you shared is not that clearly visible.
 
also, the image that I sent, in it, the time complexity is 2^n, not log n
if you got the image, can you explain why is it 2^n, if you are able to do that, you'll know the complexity here also
 
5:53 AM
Will have to read
Gimme 10 minutes
 
ok
 
2 is multiplied because of 2 function branches ? @Dro
 
@TheLittleNaruto please define "2 function branches". Wasn't able to get that. Also, "why" 2 function branches?
 
6:09 AM
@TheLittleNaruto I didn't fix anything though
 
@DroidDev ewwww recursive recursion! :O
 
@DroidDev I meant this return statement -> f(n-1) + f(n-1)
@PrincessLuna Still.
You deserve a salutation as well.
<O @Pri
 
Lol, thx
 
@ShadowWizard Yo check my answer please.
kicks @PrincessLuna in her butt
That's how we end salutation.
 
6:22 AM
@TheLittleNaruto where? I didn't check transcript yet
 
@TheLittleNaruto not possible, wrong gender!
 
@ShadowWizard Excuse me ?? ^^
 
@TheLittleNaruto as her name denotes.... @PrincessLuna is a female. :)
oh wait
lol
you...
 
6:26 AM
@TheLittleNaruto sorry, but you're wrong there.... until that blog post by Jay I'd totally agree and said exactly this, but that blog post and the fact SE is now guided by April Wensel, I say that things drastically changed, and on SO/SE content quality is no longer the most important thing. People feelings are the most important thing now.
 
@ShadowWizard Why does it become like this ?
 
@TheLittleNaruto April Wensel and no Jeff.
 
The feeling were never important, because of that our room also got frozen if you remember
@ShadowWizard Is she new CM ?
 
@TheLittleNaruto hahahahhhahah... rofk,, dheheheheh.... dies laughing
cough
umm..
no.
 
@ShadowWizard Sigh!
 
6:30 AM
@ShadowWizard agreed
 
@PrincessLuna bargain (?)
 
She is the one who these days decide the way Stack Overflow goes, but not working for them. She hates Stack Overflow, and will always do, no matter what we'll do.
 
~ Not everything is star-worthy...
~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?
 
@ShadowWizard dafuq!
 
6:31 AM
@ShadowWizard maybe post on MSE asking that?
 
Just because she hates, it became an issue for everyone ? Am I missing something ?
 
Twitter
 
@TheLittleNaruto oh...yes, but here, 2 is not multiplied, its got a power of n
@ShadowWizard haha, that's a nice term, recursive recursion
 
All meta-sites will be closed down. Our policies are now made on Twitter
 
well....lets see how that pans out
btw, can anyone guide me to twitter handle, I missed that part
> currently implementing LRU cache
 
6:35 AM
It's been brought to my attention that some people feel that their efforts aren't being acknowledged in the Stack Overflow discussion. I don't know everyone this applies to, and there's not much I can do here, but I set up a repo with some links: https://github.com/aprilw/stack-overflow-culture-resources
 
well....SE gotta earn somehow in the end, and it will happen with new users only
my concern is, getting new users with suggested way (in blogpost), will lead to loss of old users, who actually built the (quality) community
which will eventually result in loss of userbase also (I'd hate that to happen tho)
 
@TheLittleNaruto let's collect posts that say SO is awesome
 
such a dilemma
 
@rene Sure, Lemme post one tweet.
and I shall share it with you
 
searches Google, can't find a single post that claims SO is good
 
6:39 AM
XD
 
wonders if no-one saw this change coming, from the earlier blogposts
IMO, SE is shifting towards feelings since a while now
we ain't coding bots without feelings anymoar
 
lollll
 
@TheLittleNaruto I know! Even if Stack Overflow will remove downvotes, put auto +100 for any new question, and force Jon Skeet to answer each and every question, she will still find something to hate SO for.
 
@ShadowWizard Smart step to be popular, Isn't it ?
 
6:41 AM
//wake
 
@rene asking "Is Stack Exchange guided these days by April Wensel?"
@TheLittleNaruto yup sure is
 
It's like opposition party in India politics cc @Dro
 
@TheLittleNaruto because she claims millions feel the same way like she does, and SE management believes every word she says. And she got power and followers, that can't be denied.
 
@ShadowWizard +1
 
See when April tried to crack our SO, what happens next you won't believe in your eyes: pbs.twimg.com/media/C4V-6ARWAAcTWu6.jpg
@ShadowWizard Oh! That's bad 😬news
 
6:44 AM
@rene that won't be popular
 
@TheLittleNaruto Humans... xD
 
@TheLittleNaruto Guys please notice this message. ^
 
@ShadowWizard hmm...but still, the claims that some particular groups are marginalized (while there's no way to know it), is pure speculation (IMO). Or they can show some statistics proving same on that blogpost, which again, I wonder how they'll do
 
@TheLittleNaruto not sure.. what it is... ?
 
@ShadowWizard A joke ?
 
6:48 AM
oh
lol
 
Damn you spoiled it :/
 
@TheLittleNaruto owo
 
No associated word found for owo.
 
@DroidDev it's impossible to prove those things because nobody know who each user is, and anonymous surveys like they do are totally unreliable. Any frustrated programmer who ever got a downvote will take part, claim they're female or black people, and it's a done deal. Can't be more silly or obvious than that.
 
@ShadowWizard exactly, and hence the claims are pure speculations (IMO). Though, I wonder how SE management approved of this "empty" political correctness. Also, the blogpost doesn't provide any details of solutions either.
So, now we got a blogpost, which tells us that there are problems, based on mere speculations and political correctness, and doesn't point to any solutions to that (since the problem is kinda imaginary)
 
6:52 AM
@DroidDev solutions will come after long "research", it's mentioned there.
 
@ShadowWizard I'm gonna go rant on Meta now XD
 
@DroidDev yup, great way to burn the place.
@PrincessLuna have fun!
 
well....I wonder if its the same thing as microsoft hiring Ballmer at some point of time
 
@ShadowWizard Thanks! I love me a good rant ^^ xD
 
@DroidDev While Ballmer reaction on your comment: cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/…
 
6:56 AM
> His time as Microsoft CEO has been seen as mixed, with critics noting the company's tripling of sales and doubling of profits, but losing its market dominance and missing out on 21st century technology trends
So guess bottom line it was a semi-mistake to make him #1
SE still didn't hire a new CEO, the closest is Mr. Friend with radical changes, but only to look and feel.
 
@ShadowWizard the positives of that sentence, I think, came because mircosoft had a pure dominance over market, which wasn't going anywhere and still not going anywhere
while SE is also having a kinda pure dominance over market, but not the same level as mircosoft
if something goes wrong, I wonder how long it can handle that
 
@DroidDev yeah, hard to compare
 
that's why I was thinking, while getting new users is important (which is implied by that blog post), but at what cost. If you reduce the quantity, I think user base will eventually go down
I wonder what will Jeff have to say about this
 
@DroidDev hehe, he would dismiss it as total crap and keep doing what he always did.
 
@ShadowWizard haha, though, I don't have much knowledge of what he's upto these days, and how much is he involved in decision making at SE (I think none)
guess what's up in hot meta posts atm:
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Q: When is Stack Overflow going to stop demonising the quality-concerned users who have made the site a success?

Ian KempYes, it's another meta question about the "Stack Overflow isn't very welcoming" blog post. As someone who has been on this site for almost a decade, who has tried to post good questions, who has voted on content, who has worked the queues, all in the name of keeping the site's quality up... Jay ...

 
7:05 AM
@SonicWizard dead. Rebooting soon(tm)
 
@TheLittleNaruto btw, I never got the answer to code I posted :P
 
@DroidDev none indeed, I think he's horrified of the way SO/SE is going.
He is the founder of Discourse, this surely keeps him busy...
Discourse is an open source Internet forum and mailing list management software application founded in 2013 by Jeff Atwood, Robin Ward, and Sam Saffron. Discourse received funding from First Round Capital and Greylock Partners. The application is written with Ember.js  and Ruby on Rails. PostgreSQL serves as its back-end database management system. From a usability perspective, Discourse breaks with existing forum software by including features recently popularized by large social networks, such as infinite scrolling, live updates, expanding links, and drag and drop attachments. However, the stated...
 
@ShadowWizard yeah well, aren't we all?
 
@DroidDev Well you never replied to me.
 
@ShadowWizard He's also the SE version of gollum (see the Tavern :p)
 
user359686
7:14 AM
@sonic I'm alive! \o/
 
And which led me to this discussion. @Dro
 
@DroidDev not April... and the "giv me codez plz" users, who are many...
register to @PrincessCelestia so that she greets you when coming online.
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard How can I //help?
 
/cc @PrincessLuna ^^
 
7:16 AM
//register
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard Maybe you should consider looking up the manual
 
@Sha I casted close vote.
 
I'll look into it, it's gonna be site specific and possibly room specific.
Mar 11 at 10:30, by KennyBOT
~ Cast a Dark Shadow
 
@TheLittleNaruto hmm? Where?
@PrincessLuna indeed
 
@ShadowWizard madam (?)
 
7:17 AM
44 mins ago, by DroidDev
@TheLittleNaruto oh...yes, but here, 2 is not multiplied, its got a power of n
 
@ShadowWizard on that April biased question on which I answered.
 
Dammit, typo >.>
 
@TheLittleNaruto yeah man. Now I got the whole picture, kinda.
 
@DroidDev 😃 😃
@DroidDev It means, your problem will have O(4^n) complexity
Guys support me!
 
@TheLittleNaruto yeah, correct. Now you got it
but did you get why "4 ^ n"?
@TheLittleNaruto for what?
 
7:22 AM
@DroidDev Yes because each recursion will have 4 times call
@DroidDev caste cv on that question.
 
@TheLittleNaruto oh. Well, you can do it, but I think the question is on topic these days. Guess it will go into close/reopen war until locked by a mod
 
@ShadowWizard Oh
 
@TheLittleNaruto groan (?)
 
@FOX9000 moan
 
@ShadowWizard eyelid (?)
 
7:24 AM
...
Poor @Fox... got a moaning eyelid. :D
Hey Doctor, why my eyelid is moaning at nights?!
 
Something is troubling you may be.
 
//alive
 
user359686
@PrincessLuna I'm pretty sure I am.
 
@ShadowWizard Doctor? Doctor who?
 
7:54 AM
:D
 
8:34 AM
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I visited bathroom lots of times during this "hot-headed meta thingy about discrimination", and not just for pee, ya know. :P
 
Um, what? XD
 
If you meant the time you posted that, 2:15 AM, I was indeed visiting for the last before-sleep pee though. :D
@PrincessLuna ask @M.A.R! I just reply to old-er pings now.... :D
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ anyway... you're right, I stay away from this except some rant here and in Tavern where I can do it safely and with bit of humor. It's combination of several reasons: 1) I can't have any real effect on any of this. 2) Anything I'll write on meta can lead only to negative discussion. 3) It's a lost cause, the results of the "battle" are already known, no point fighting it.
Each on its own isn't enough to make me stay away, but all those together are enough to do that.
Reminds me of @Derpy who said in the past he don't fight for things he believes in because he's not Don Quixote... let me find something...
Dec 24 '14 at 9:27, by SPArchaeologist
@ShadowWizard no thanks. My Don Quixote days have ended long ago.
Anyway, I've shared my opinion on the "discrimination" stuff above... somewhere..
 
well....its correct. We got two choices, either stay and make do with the changes, or leave
 
8:50 AM
Yeah, since I'm not really active on SO for long time now anyway it's easier for me. :)
I might answer something once in while or review, but not often.
 
9:02 AM
yeah, but still, with contribution as little as mine, I feel bad when I see something like this about to happen
I still remember, how much time I took to ask my first question (though it was still shitty), how I browsed various questions for days, how I helped with reviews and all
most of all, if we allow this, I think a quality rich resource will be reduced to a database of questions which doesn't explain anything, but somehow do the patchwork of fixing OP's issue, which can range from "restart your IDE" to "re-run build again", and without any explanation
that kind of thing won't be helpful to anyone
I am one of devs who say they are self-made (maybe self-learnt will be a better term), but SO was a major portion of my learning curve
It won't be helpful to anyone if SO is reduced to another quora.
weeps quietly
 
9:18 AM
Huh, @DroidDev has emotions
 
user359686
@m.a.r. Here's your daily ping
 
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ I can even kill you with emotions :P
 
@ShadowWizard give me a link your laziness
Oh, you probably agree with me anyway
You suck at trolling
 
lel
 
9:41 AM
owo
 
Though I honestly don't think this is a group-related problem; this is a lack of user education.
Exactly! ^
 
Thanks for the edit @sha ^^
 
9:57 AM
@PrincessLuna You're welcome
Konoha Peace Song:
<3
 
Can't listen rn
 
10:13 AM
This music track is nothing but God blessings only.
Only after listening one would realize.
 
10:39 AM
@ShadowWizard Yo
 
@JoErNanO yo yo yo (?)
 
I'm in Australia. @ShadowWizard
 
@JoErNanO say "hi" to @YvetteColomb and @TelKitty then!! :D
oh, and @JamesENL of course!!!
 
@YvetteColomb You are in Australia too?
 
she was born there and still lives there
 
10:41 AM
I don't know the other two. But anyone with Kitty or James in ther nickname is probably weird. :P
Oh and anyone with Shadow or Wizard too.
That goes without saying.
 
They have decent toilets there? @JoE ;)
 
..wait! What ?
 
@JoErNanO haha! Well, Kitty is a troll queen and James is, well... proud. ;)
 
Is that your question when someone will visit Australia ?
 
Does this make them "weird"? :D
@TheLittleNaruto it's my question for @JoE wherever he goes.... :P
 
10:44 AM
@ShadowWizard Oh lol
 
@TheLittleNaruto That is his question to everyone. That is how he greets people.
You might say Hi how are you? He will say Hi do they have decent toilets there?
I told you @ShadowWizard is weird.
Like weird weird.
Like weird weird.
 
Hey nanoscopic @Joe :p
 
Good night people I'm crashing in bed.
 
poor bed.... :D
 
Hey Future Queen Moon.
 
10:46 AM
@JoErNanO LOLLL
 
No associated word found for LOLLL.
 
@JoErNanO you might know her as "Zoe" from other sites...
 
@ShadowWizard This is a private conversation between me and @PrincessLuna, you nosy shadow of a wizard.
 
Every site except SU and MSE
 
10:51 AM
@JoErNanO picking @JoE's nose
@M.A.R.ಠ_ಠ being lazy myself doesn't mean I allow others to be lazy! Go look for it! :D
@DroidDev tru dat
throwing @Dro's tears on @kId
 
//alive
 
//dead
!!cupcake for @Insane
 
~ One cupcake on its way for @ShadowWizard ....
 
You asked for Insane though
@ShadowWizard Which tears ?;
 
11:08 AM
@TheLittleNaruto yeah, @Kenny isn't so smart.... ;)
2 hours ago, by DroidDev
weeps quietly
Silent Tears
 
!!milk
 
~ I'm milking the cow ....
 
!!milk
 
~ I'm skimming the milk... try later
 
11:21 AM
!!coffee
 
~ 418 I'm a TEAPOT
 
!!feed 🤣
 
~ Didn't I had 🤣 before?
 
!!feed ‮
 
~ No Pizza?
 
11:23 AM
!!feed @Princess shoes
 
~ Didn't I had @Princess shoes before?
 
@ShadowWizard I could see that
 
@ShadowWizard Oh
 
@TheLittleNaruto That word is already said in the latest 10 words. Please use another. (In case I'm mistaken, run >>rmword Oh and then >>reply 6903739)
 
11:24 AM
!!feed The Big @The Little and the Naruto
 
~ I bloody hope The Big @The Little and the Naruto is edible ...
 
!!feed @Insane @kId
 
~ Come on! Make me something better than @Insane @kId
 
God dammit kennniiiiiiiii
Gimme mah shoes
 
//lick shoes
@PrincessLuna easy
 
11:30 AM
@ShadowWizard relaxed (?)
 
@KennyBOT vomit
 
@ShadowWizard yuck
 
lol
!!vomit
 
~ BLLLEEEAAAAEERRRGGGGGJHHHHHH 🤣, ‮ !!!!!
 
//alive
 
11:35 AM
@PrincessLuna dead
 
@ShadowWizard odin (?)
 
Fuck
No, but I fixed it
 
@PrincessLuna yuck
 
@ShadowWizard love (?)
 
Bah, it's probably tor
 
11:36 AM
kill all dem torz!
 
user359686
@PrincessLuna I'm pretty sure I am.
 
There we go :3
 
11:54 AM
//join 0
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard An exception occured while checking the validity of the room: Room not found
 
//join 1
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard An exception occured while checking the validity of the room: No write access in the room
 
huh
//join 1098
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard An exception occured while checking the validity of the room: No write access in the room
 
11:56 AM
//join 721d
 
user359686
@ShadowWizard Something bad happened :/
 
//logs
 
user359686
java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "721d": For input string: "721d"
    at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:65)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:580)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:615)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.commands.Summon.handleCommand(SECommands.kt:24)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.command.CommandCenter.parseMessage(CommandCenter.java:200)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.sites.se.SEChat.handleMessage(SEChat.java:428)
 
heh, in JavaScript it just parse 721d as 721
!!poo
 
~ 💩
 
11:57 AM
Bah
//join 721f
 
user359686
@PrincessLuna Something bad happened :/
 
//logs
 
user359686
java.lang.NumberFormatException: For input string: "721f": For input string: "721f"
    at java.lang.NumberFormatException.forInputString(NumberFormatException.java:65)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:580)
    at java.lang.Integer.parseInt(Integer.java:615)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.commands.Summon.handleCommand(SECommands.kt:24)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.command.CommandCenter.parseMessage(CommandCenter.java:200)
    at io.github.lunarwatcher.chatbot.bot.sites.se.SEChat.handleMessage(SEChat.java:428)
 
More regex needed
 
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