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Anonymous

12:16 AM

Show HN: Disabling View Source in Firefox and Edge

Anonymous

Upvote me or I'll start encouraging people to use this in production, and you know they'll end up on Stack when something goes wrong.

Journeyman Geek

12:29 AM

@FTP that should be interesting...

@JeremyBanks YOU MONSTER.

Anonymous

@JourneymanGeek I KNOW MY POWER

user202362

user202362

just because you are a monster with power, it doesn't mean we would be scared :p

Journeyman Geek

IS IT REAL ULTIMATE POWER

user310756

12:58 AM

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty our new dog - he will protect the horses from wild dogs

user310756

mainly the foal

user310756

and this is Tuppence - she's still underweight, but going really well

user310756

be prepared for foal spam end of next month

user202362

1:07 AM

@YvetteColomb great that you have found a solution against the dingos :D

user202362

I guess Elsa the greyhound is not going to be there as well? I mean greyhounds are not guard dogs, but maybe two dog is better than one :p

user202362

@YvetteColomb she's very handsome, but doesn't look very pregnant consider she's going to give birth next month

HTTP

1:43 AM

Morning yeh!

user315433

I'm not a morning person. I should hire a VP of Mornings to deal with them for me.

user202362

or you could hire a airbnb driver instead

HTTP

Great, office's internet still hiccup-ing...

user202362

2:29 AM

did I say airbnb driver? I mean uber driver

user202362

they are the same, I used neither

user202362

although I do use homeaway sometimes

Journeyman Geek

2:40 AM

@TelautonomousKitty air bnb driver... they drive up to your place in an RV....

ugh

that french guy

Catija

The SMS question?

Journeyman Geek

questions!

He reposted

Catija

... Well, the first one was deleted, so I'm calling it "question".

user315433

Reduce, reuse, recycle

user315433

3:17 AM

Posts by deleted users are always false positives, aren't they

Catija

In that case, it's just a really old post that got rescanned due to a new edit or answer being added.

user315433

3:29 AM

Yes, and that's invariably the case when "by a deleted user" comes up.

Ano

4:28 AM

@Catija I've seen this situation asked about before (can't comment because accidentally created a new account), so I edited this into the FAQ: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/214173/…

@ShadowWizard chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307667/…

rene

7:29 AM

→ 30 messages moved to Chimney

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in body, link at end of body, pattern-matching website in body: how can take this nitridex? by RoberAllen on drupal.SE

HTTP

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@HTTP teward/Lunar Eclipse

@HTTP NobodyNada/Raspberry Pi

HTTP

!!/location

SmokeDetector

@HTTP teward/Lunar Eclipse

HTTP

7:44 AM

Smokey should be normal again... having suppressed their double personalities...

rene

Thanks

user310756

10:21 AM

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty ^^

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty she will come and visit and run around. When I let her off she's trying to escape under the gates! She is attracted to roads and this one is busy in a 100 km/h zone!

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty she was really starved, the foal is probably small :'[ - I'm feeding her supplements, vitamins and now - huge hard feeds, 4-5 times what you'd see me feed the girls. She's got hay and there's plenty of grass. It's really hard to put weight on her, with the foal growing rapidly - it will be hard to put weight on her when the foal is born - uses up even more energy lactating

user310756

Cleo

Derpy

10:32 AM

that explain why most of the SharePoint devs here use a picture of the local sanitation company logo as a desktop wallpaper.

HTTP

@SmokeDetector angular... math... ha ha

Derpy

Also, like a co-worker once said.

> What is the most important tool a SharePoint dev should have?
The plunger.

Somehow I wish that iisreset was renamed to unclog-farm

user202362

@YvetteColomb all your horses are of similar colour :p

Derpy

> The EnumNetworkDrives method returns a collection. This collection is an array that associates pairs of items — network drive local names and their associated UNC names. Even-numbered items in the collection represent local names of logical drives. Odd-numbered items represent the associated UNC share names.

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty I know - the new filly (Tuppence) is bay/brown. Cleo is brown/black - Penny is black. She says hi btw :D we miss you xox

SmokeDetector

10:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, bad NS for domain in title, bad keyword in body, bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, +5 more: supplementssafe.com/nitridex-male-enhancement/ by user279017 on apple.SE

user202362

@YvetteColomb I miss you and the girls too :)

Oded

Y U people no sleep?

Derpy

@YvetteColomb those are very lame names for those poor ponies. Be more creative

HTTP

Sleep... is for the wake.

Oded

That's not morbid. At all.

user202362

10:50 AM

user202362

love the night, also, live dangerously

Journeyman Geek

@Oded timezones

Oded

@JourneymanGeek yes, I am talking to the USAians.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: How are bitcoin trade profits taxed in Poland? by Adrian on bitcoin.SE

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty I'll let you know when I come back to Sydney. Let me know if you can pop up. You'll love the place they're in

user310756

11:02 AM

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty some of the sheep eat out of my hand and let me pat them :D

user202362

reminds me I was stalked by a donkey once after I fed it some biscuit :p

user310756

lol

user310756

user202362

lovely :D

user310756

11:05 AM

@TelautonomousKitty so much more room, two dams in the front paddock and one in the back. We have the back paddock closed off there is so much grass and Cleo is fat

user202362

@YvetteColomb that's cleo right?

user202362

the one in the front?

user310756

yep! and Penny behind her

user310756

@TelautonomousKitty if you look and see a fence - behind that is the back paddock - it's about 10 acres. There's 24 acres in total

user310756

11:08 AM

I'm going to bed - get an early night :)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Syncing iPhone with iTunes on a windows virtual machine by Mytchb on askubuntu.com

user202362

@YvetteColomb good night

Derpy

11:45 AM

> Alert everyone. The Fuka Kazamatsuri entered the room. Hide all the network takeover blueprints, quickly.

Journeyman Geek

the what?

Derpy

Fuka Kazamatsuri. Aka the one once know as "The Penguin"

Basically, since @Taryn is too banal as an username, and since she is still half penguin / Auk / Prinny .... I have this new headcanon going that she should be called Fuka in honor of the Disgaea character

Journeyman Geek

._.

Derpy

Please notice that the original also comes with a baseball club. Which we know the staff commonly uses to bash spammer on the head.

Journeyman Geek

yer strange.

Derpy

12:00 PM

wait sorry, just watched the bigger version of the avatar. Seems more like Idéfix.

Or Milou from Tintin

but since I never read Tintin, I will have to stick with the theory that Journeyman avatar is Idefix.

also, since you mentioned it

in Sugarcube Corner, Oct 2 '14 at 12:10, by SPArchaeologist

'But I don't want to go among mad people,' Alice remarked.
'Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: 'we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
'How do you know I'm mad?' said Alice.
'You must be,' said the Cat, 'or you wouldn't have come here.'

SmokeDetector

12:15 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body: Site Indexed but Not Showing When I Search Using Exact Domain Name by Muhibul Haque on webmasters.SE

Derpy

1:19 PM

McDonald's: pay for Windows licenses? but nobody is... -oh...

Tweeted by khaxan on March 6, 2018 at 11:52 PM

Yay for unlicensed OS on public-facing interface.

... or more probably, "Yay for Windows losing license info"

Shadow Wizard

2:00 PM

BTW, we have another Taryn in MSE!

Taryn East, Sydney, Australia

591 3 11

Hopefully she won't be mad for getting @bluefeet's pings when entering the Tavern... :D

rene

You stalk Taryn's ?

Journeyman Geek

Everyone stalks everyone!

HTTP

You stalk yourself!?

Journeyman Geek

yup

ALL THE TIME!

I AM EVERYWHERE I AM!

4

SmokeDetector

2:39 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad pattern in URL answer, pattern-matching website in answer: skullcandy earbuds with mic by nidhi on android.SE

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek Dog things

Journeyman Geek

Someone linked this on Root Access

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/364186/…

HTTP

@JourneymanGeek too bad(?) it's already deleted

Journeyman Geek

you mean closed.

HTTP

oh, the question... the URL you posted has some slug, so I thought it's a comment or answer

and well..... if you want some more ~~entertainment~~ history, check OP's previous meta posts...

Journeyman Geek

2:44 PM

oh

the question

@HTTP MSO? not seeing anything as epic as that

SmokeDetector

2:59 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Can "we'll get back to you" be an independent clause? by Stacy on english.SE

user315433

Stack Overflow for Teams, a year later.

user315433

Derpy

3:16 PM

Will meet his own demise pretty soon. They allow users to drawn/upload pictures? Or are they actually only making you believe the pictures are uploaded and that explains the broken links?

Princess Luna

3:31 PM

@FTP XD

Derpy

It contains a link to a chat room? And there are people there too?

user315433

The thing is from April 1 of 2015, so it's not particularly active now.

user315433

Image upload wasn't supported; users were to draw their own. But it seems someone found a way: explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/1506:_xkcloud/…

user315433

(unless it's a fake)

user315433

Yes, there are broken image links to c0.xkcd.com/xb/image... perhaps Randall's sysadmin skills were not up to the task, but it also works as an extension of the "lost data" joke.

Derpy

3:39 PM

Yet it seems people are still there using the room.

And yep, I did found out about the link from explainxkcd. I was just surprised that 3 years later people were still visiting the room.

user315433

I think it's a real-life version of undocumented feature

Derpy

Yep, they suggested that too. Assuming the undocumented feature thing wasn't real from the start.

Tim Post

I wanna be sedated.

HTTP

@FTP oh, I remember this...

@TimPost good choice.

rene

@TimPost If that is the feeling after you woke up I would go back to bed ...

MetaEd

3:46 PM

@FTP That's cute.

4:17 PM

4:34 PM

5:05 PM

6:10 PM

delete-vote-pls meta.stackexchange.com/a/307699/377214

rene

6:32 PM

delv-pls 20K legal something meta.stackexchange.com/a/307701/158100 (I've seen that text before)

Ano

7:12 PM

@rene chaos-emerald-pls Please add meta.stackexchange.com/questions/214173/… to the duplicate list of meta.stackexchange.com/questions/300795/…. The question also asks about needing 50 rep to comment on one's own posts, and I edited a whole section about this into the FAQ.

Ano

7:36 PM

@Catija First time I've seen them migrate a blatantly off-topic post from MSE

Anonymous

test

Taryn

fail

Anonymous

damn. now I wish I'd added more detailed failure messages.

Catija

@JeremyBanks You'll be happy to know they fixed the error that was causing my login to not show up :D

Anonymous

@Catija Concern abated!

Anonymous

7:50 PM

@JeremyBanks .

MetaEd

@JeremyBanks core dumped: your fault

Anonymous

8:12 PM

test results: meta.stackexchange.com/a/307705/134300

Ano

@Magisch Can you explain your avatar?

Anonymous

Heyyy I just got a Varnish error page trying to load Stack.

Anonymous

Seems fixed now but it looks like there were ~4s of downtime. :-O

Magisch

@JeremyBanks It's an awesome smiley with a headset from the TF2 scout badly shopped onto it

more then 13 years old at this point

Ano

8:30 PM

@Magisch You're notifying the wrong person

Magisch

fail

:(

Ano

9:32 PM

@Shog9 Why didn't the migration script modify the link to Programmers in this post to Software Engineering?

Also, can you please summon @animuson here?

Shog9

@Ano animuson is out. Please refrain from pinging him.

Ano

That wasn't a ping. He's not pingable here.

Taryn

also we don't summon people

Shog9

@Ano That wasn't what I asked.

Listen next time.

Ano

Well, then what did you ask?

Shog9

9:45 PM

I asked you to please refrain from pinging animuson. Can you do that?

Ano

Yes. By the way, I never pinged him. He's not pingable here in this room.

Shog9

Thank you.

Ano

I didn't go to any other chat room in which he's pingable

Can you please explain the 30-second kick to me?

Shog9

I did already.

Ano

For pinging animuson? I didn't ping him in the first place.

Or for not initially acknowledging that I shouldn't ping him anywhere else? That doesn't merit a kick in my opinion.

Shog9

9:48 PM

It's not your call.

Now, to your first question: I'm not aware of a migration script to rewrite programmers links on MSE. There are numerous outstanding links to the old domain; some have been rewritten manually.

Ano

I could have sworn I saw Community editing most of them.

Shog9

we could do that, but there's no particular reason to

the old links work just fine

Of course, you may have seen a user-edit suggested by a now-deleted user?

Ano

Then why mass-edit HTTP links to HTTPS links if "the old links work just fine"?

Shog9

Because they don't necessarily work just fine

Ano

Then why didn't Community edit that post's HTTP link to Programmers into an HTTPS link to Software Engineering?

Shog9

9:50 PM

THAT'S a good question

Ano

Also, are all CMs pingable even though they're not listed in /rooms/pingable/[room-number]?

Shog9

probably not?

I never remember how that works

Ano

So then why get so mad that you're willing to kick me over a ping that never took place?

Shog9

I'm not mad. I'm irritated that you decided to argue rather than acknowledge my perfectly-reasonable request.

Ano

If he was pingable, I would have omitted the "@".

Shog9

9:53 PM

If he was pingable, then you wouldn't have needed to ping me and I'd have been just as irritated.

Ano

I never pinged anyone after my message containing "@animuson".

Shog9

Again, you're arguing an irrelevant point here

Ano

Well, my thinking was "I got accused of doing something I didn't do, so I have to defend myself"

That's my natural thinking.

Shog9

you pinged me and then asked me to do something

that you didn't ask me to do something and then ping me is not a point I'm particularly concerned about

AH!

I see what happened

Observe the edit summary here: meta.stackexchange.com/posts/284424/revisions

> replaced http://programmers.stackexchange.com/ with https://softwareengineering.stackexchange.com/

Ano

Why didn't Community do the same edit on that post?

Shog9

9:59 PM

This question does not contain a link to http://programmers.stackexchange.com/

it contains a link to http://programmers.stackexchange.com

Search for the former: 0 results

Ano

So posts without the ending / were excluded from that particular script?

Shog9

Search for the latter: 138 results

correct

Ano

Did that happen to all the different site link conversions, or just this one?

Shog9

probably? Check

Ano

It probably happened with all sites

303 results for stackoverflow.com

194 results for superuser.com

37 results for apple.stackexchange.com

Adam Lear

10:04 PM

clbuttic

Catija

Gesundheit?

Ano

10:17 PM

@Shog9

0

Q: Old HTTP links to SE sites without ending / weren't converted to HTTPS links

About a year ago, several migration scripts were run to change old HTTP network-internal links across the network to HTTPS links. However, it appears that the script didn't modify links that lack the ending /. For example: 303 results for http://stackoverflow.com 194 results for http://superuse...

bug hyperlinks ssl automatic-edits

Ironically, one link with the ending / wasn't converted. Appears to be a lone case.

@AdamLear What?

Adam Lear

urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=clbuttic

fixing things via a search-and-replace is always a fun time

Ano

10:36 PM

@Shog9 So could you please respond to my post linked above about IE10 support?

Anonymous

so. there are sites where I can go and get rep for ranting about politics and philosophy without any need for rigor or coherence? damn I've been missing out. 🙄

Jon Ericson

Wait . . . you've posted on Meta SE, right?

Anonymous

🔥🔥🔥 😳

Anonymous

You got me. :P

Anonymous

Feb 28 at 5:56, by Ano

@JourneymanGeek But IE10 is special. It was short-lived and only included with an unpopular version of Windows, the original Windows 8. Windows 7 likely either has the original 8 or 11, not 9 or 10.

Anonymous

10:48 PM

@Ano You are obviously correct about this, but you aren't going to get a quick response because no individual (at least none that hangs out here) is authorized to declare a policy, and the default position is something like "well support it if it's easy I guess" so there probably isn't a firm policy against implementing IE10 support.

Ano

animuson commented about that on MSO, and I quoted him in my MSE post. (FYI, that's why I asked Shog to summon animuson there.)

Anonymous

I agree that IE10 is not really a justifiable support cut-off for anyone, and have spent a while making exactly that case to a previous boss.

Ano

@JonEricson What do you mean?

Anonymous

@Ano That was a quip about me accusing some other sites of awarding incoherent rants with rep, while harvesting such rep on MSE.

Ano

@gparyani That doesn't necessarily mean anything, given IE has been abandoned in favor of Edge. That's like saying we indefinitely support IE10 because there will never be a version 12+. Not gonna happen. Generally if it's an easy fix someone will make it. Otherwise it's safe to say IE10 is unsupported. — animuson ♦ Feb 28 at 6:02

Adam Lear

10:55 PM

Eventually we're going to drop IE10 support. When? No idea. But honestly, developing a strict policy on this is incredibly low on the priority list right now. It simply doesn't matter - we'll make things work as much as we reasonably can in the meantime.

I know you want a specific answer here, but there isn't one. Pinging people every day/week/whatever isn't gonna change that.

Ano

What percent of SE visitors use IE10?

IE11 doesn't seem to experience bugs for the most part

Anonymous

Stack Exchange has never had a concrete specific browser support policy. It's always been a little handy-wavy and under-specified, deliberately. I wouldn't expect that to change.

Ano

@AdamLear Can you respond to the MSE post with that? I just wanted an official response, not a firm "yes" or "no".

@JourneymanGeek I see you lurking

Shog9

@Ano are you considering moving on from IE10?

Ano

No, I use Windows 10.

3 mins ago, by Ano

What percent of SE visitors use IE10?

Shog9

11:00 PM

Do you, perhaps, run the IT department for an organization currently standardized on IE10?

Ano

Who's standardized on IE10?

Shog9

guessing that's "no"

Ano

@Shog9 No.

Shog9

Unless this personally affects you in some major way, you don't really need an answer right now.

So, be patient.

Ano

So can you clarify animuson's comment saying that it's "safe to say" it's unsupported?

Shog9

11:02 PM

I could, but I won't

Ano

I didn't quite understand it. Is it a formal decision/declaration?

Or not?

Why will you not?

Shog9

I will happily report that I managed to get a hellacious query down from 25 seconds to about 12. So I feel like my afternoon has not been wasted.

Anonymous

I'll put a tracking pixel in my profile and get back to you in a few decades once I have a statistically-significant dataset.

Ano

Of people who don't block tracking pixels

Anonymous

Yes, all ~100% of them.

Anonymous

11:06 PM

I doubt (m)any users block third-party images from unrecognized hosts.

Anonymous

{ Chrome64: 20,
  Chrome66: 1,
  Firefox58: 6,
  Safari11: 3,
  Chrome65: 1,
  Edge16: 3,
  Firefox59: 1 }

Anonymous

Here's this room.

Anonymous

I'm going to confidently extrapolate to 0% IE10 use network-wide.

user315433

Stack Overflow	25
Ask Ubuntu	12
Mathematics	10
Super User	9
English Language & Usage	9
Cross Validated	8
Geographic Information Systems	8
Server Fault	7
Arqade	7
Ask Different	7
MathOverflow	7

user315433

11 sites have 7+ mods, not necessarily the ones I would guess.

user315433

11:19 PM

Like, GIS? What do they do on GIS?

user315433

Never hear anything from that direction.

user315433

They had four elections, and only 1 mod ever resigned.

user315433

Looking out of the window, I regret staying late in the office on a night like this. (Current location: Long Island)

Ano