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12:48 AM
The new top bar was pushed out to this site. NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
12:59 AM
@JohnMiliter quite a while back actually
 
1:10 AM
and if you think about it, its the 'right' place to test something like that - its also pushed out to mods and we've moaned and ranted suggested a few improvements that have happened.
 
I have returned!
 
Who left the door unlocked?
 
Something came up:
notice nothing at least for me.
Same for the other two tabs.
 
1:26 AM
Everyone left I wonder if it has anything to do with the elastic search upgrades/issues recently
 
hm
works for me
 
actually no
dosen't work for me
Go report a bug ;p
 
Oh
Same on SU,Serverfault,Security.SE and etc.
 
1:28 AM
probably same bug
 
If this is really really truly a bug. I must report it to show kenorb I made a bug report. :D
 
 
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2:32 AM
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Q: Why was Apocalyptic Defense closed?

MassimoThat was really disappointing. If this whole Stack Exchange thing is going to be community-driven, then one and only one rule should apply to site proposals: if one of them can fulfill the requirements and clearly show a good community would follow it, then it should be opened, no matter how sil...

this is quite lulzy. For once... read the comments, its worth it ;p
 
 
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5:15 AM
no u
 
 
2 hours later…
7:40 AM
@bluefeet You up? Again that guy has started abusing starring messages.
Can you look into this ?
 
8:18 AM
No worries. People star everything I say, that's normal. Because I'm brilliant. Or are you not talking about that?
 
Well.. That's not normal
 
Which room?
 
@redhand LIES! ALL DIRTY LIES!
 
@angussidney 19132 on SO
It's been happening for a month now.
 
@Bart it's someone else. Clearly this is an issue.
That said, it's the middle of the night in the us I suspect.
 
8:22 AM
This time, with all my rights, I want to know who is this person.
I hope I can ask for that this time.
 
@TheLittleNaruto even as a mod, that's not information I'm typically privy to.
 
But it's not just one time.
It keeps happening
So I think you guys can ask for that info
 
Right and all the person who is doing it wants is to see people freak out over it.
 
You can ask for the info, but the response will probably be "yeah, ... no"
 
Usually I just go meh and ignore.
 
8:26 AM
@Bart Right that's what Bluefeet said last times.
 
@TheLittleNaruto and what's different now?
 
@JourneymanGeek I suspect that person is the one who kept flagging in that room as well recently.
 
@TheLittleNaruto and clearly is following you around to annoy you then
 
@JourneymanGeek She also told me, if that happens again, I should let her know. She is keeping that user's records in scanning.
@JourneymanGeek Not really, But because of so many flagging we got this warning from mod: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/39352372#39352372
 
Seems to be only sideways related?
 
8:31 AM
Long time back, Shog9 had frozen the room once because of these many flag messages. We had to convince him, it'll not happen again. But now again this is what happening.
@Bart I am not sure.
It can be.
 
I don't know about the history here, but from that message it seems there are 2. The stars you mention, and inappropriate content being posted in the room. There's no such thing as "inside the room only" or "among friends" when it comes to content.
 
@TheLittleNaruto flags seem valid.
Which is what flags are for. Still, what's wrong with ignoring your troll star?
 
@JourneymanGeek How many times I will ignore ?
 
ALL TEH TIMES insert meme.jpg
 
Until he gets bored.
 
8:36 AM
Just report and move on
 
So it can't be helped after all.
Understood.
 
Sometimes the way to win is not to play at all.
 
Feels bad...
Sob! Sob!
cc @bluefeet
 
8:53 AM
@JourneymanGeek Drama booomb
 
Anyone got Joel address? Want to suggest a new question for the Joel test.
> your relational database tables have IDs and defined relationships
 
@M.A.R. hah. Good to see you got the reference
 
Imagining @Journey as Anthony Hopkins, saying and thinking dramatic things
 
@Derpy myers.io/2017/04/04/the-joel-test-for-2017 (and there are others from before that...)
 
@Oded ok, will live with "Does all code go through code review?"
 
9:20 AM
also....
2 days ago, by Derpy
user image
just realized I should have also asked how many rainy days the jacket can withstand.
 
9:37 AM
@Derpy none
 
 
10:41 AM
So... do you need a driving license when you drive ride a self-driving car?
@Feeds but hey, Twitch has done "crowdsourced playing" (aka. "Twitch plays"), why don't test the idea of "crowdsourced steering"? :)
 
10:55 AM
@Elias if you ever watched any of the twitch plays pokemon streams....
 
user315433
11:22 AM
SE network has some deep issues, but if anything is going to kill it, it's people starring too many chat messages.
 
user315433
The (probably) second most exciting election of the year is coming up (Mathematics); next week, Stack Overflow на русском.
 
spammer didn't even bother to fill link description. So sad.
@Michelle chat is minor in SE, worst case chat will be killed
SE will just keep going without chat. :D
 
11:48 AM
@ShaWizDowArd nuuuuuu
I might be the minority, but I think having at least the option for chat is essential for healthy communities
 
@JourneymanGeek might be :)
 
Tavern on the Meta is now my main hub to SE network
Tavern is love, Tavern is life
 
user315433
lowlife mostly
 
Tavern is never wrong, let's have a song! ♪♫
 
@ShaWizDowArd as odd as it seems, its handy for keeping your core users engaged
 
12:01 PM
I went on just fine for years before becoming active in chat, but yeah I see what you mean.
 
I wouldn't have gone out of SU if not for chat
 
huh :D
 
;p
There'sa few sites where I'm chat first - cooking for example
And of course, Its a useful way for the rare instance where I need to mug a CM and the usual methods won't do ;p
 
12:24 PM
We are continuing our Elastic Search upgrades today, so performance of Stack Overflow and Stack Exchange will be degraded for a few hours as we use the backup search cluster.
 
Elastic Search upgrade is surely not so elastic, taking so long.... ;)
(week by now? Maybe more...)
 
@Bart N0P35. 3V3RY7HING 15 7RU3
 
It can be a bit of a stretch....
 
12:45 PM
stretching @Journeyman
 
damn it jim, I'm a terrier not a dachshund
 
@TheLittleNaruto as others mentioned, the best solution is to ignore it. The louder you are about it, the more it tends to feed people to do it again.
 
@bluefeet I just wait a while (e.g. 1-2 hours) then clear all the stars, in the Den, when it happens.
Kind of like cleaning the mess after a kid when he got a bladder problem. ;)
 
lol
@bluefeet ._. THAT'S WHAT I SAID
 
@JourneymanGeek you're now officially an "other" then. :D
 
1:00 PM
@JourneymanGeek that's why I started with 'as others mentioned..." :)
 
that said, @bluefeet can probably see who the star troll is and give them a good smack. ;)
30 minutes chat ban will teach a nice lesson. :D
 
or I could just freeze the room to stop everything
 
or we could laugh at his pitiful attempts as he runs out of stars
 
@bluefeet freezing a room don't prevent new stars... I think.
 
user315433
1:09 PM
Some children prefer being punished to being unnoticed.
 
user315433
Which I guess what drives some of chat activities.
 
lol
Good thinking!
Troll Psychology 101
lollll.... and of course such thing already exists... (didn't check before posting, really)
 
user315433
And it's not exclusive to children.
 
Of course
Though I suspect majority of the adults are acting like children too many times....
 
user202362
1:23 PM
I saw these birds on a California farm land, could someone tell me what they are?
 
user202362
 
@Telkitty birds
 
Looks like turkeys, maybe
 
user202362
too skinny for turkeys ... unless they are skinny turkeys
 
not necessarily
 
1:28 PM
Did I miss the starry wall?
 
'commercial' turkeys are bred to be big
they can be a lot smaller
Look vaguely right
 
@JourneymanGeek yup this looks like what @Telkitty gave
 
It can't be a roadrunner. No coyotes with improvised weaponry.
 
Looks like grouse
 
Definitely not roadrunner...
> complain pettily; grumble.
 
1:34 PM
Much too big for road runners.
Roadrunners are really small. Don't believe the fake cartoon media.
 
@Telkitty but what are you doing in farm lands? Don't you prefer parks or more tourist focused places? :)
 
@Oded .... You mean coyotes don't hunt with anvils?
and rockets?
 
user202362
@ShaWizDowArd stalking animals of course ...
 
This one does.
 
1:37 PM
@Oded -1, fake
@JourneymanGeek rockets? Thought only dynamites
heh chat search is 100% broken. blaming @Oded
 
not my fault
 
We'll see.... :D
 
rockets.
 
I believe we are serving Elastic search from CO while an upgrade to 5.6.1 is happening (today/now)
 
@Oded so whatever it is, chat messages aren't there...
 
1:39 PM
Can't spell Oded without CO (minus the C) ... #blameoded
 
Oded Coded
 
^ the plot thickens
 
Ode to the Code
 
I am the best (at breaking things)
2
 
Finally, @Oded's deepest secret is revealed...
 
1:41 PM
That banner? Cropped.
 
In other news, chat search is being fixed.
 
\o/
 
1:46 PM
\o/
 
2:31 PM
\o/
 
Chat search be fixed
 
user315433
> September '17
The Community Team sent over a few features to the DAG team after discussing them (added to the bottom of the post, in the "punted" section), but unfortunately nothing got built this month.
Built: (0) Nothing! (╥_╥)
Rejected: (0) Nothing! \o/
 
user315433
So, DAG is an extra layer between Community Team and developers...
 
Lots of developers on DAG.
Also - just because the community team sends something over, doesn't mean it is ready (or close to ready) for development.
 
2:48 PM
Sep 22 at 15:49, by Magisch
@Oded Thanks for that
 
Wasn't me fixing it... but OK
 
Still, you are the messenger! ;)
 
Uh...
 
You either shoot the messenger or give them a tip. :D
 
or give them a tip. Then shoot them! Compromise is wonderful!
 
2:49 PM
rofl
note to self: @Journeyman got a criminal mind
:P
status-stars-cleaned
enjoying clean Den
 
NVZ
3:34 PM
can CMs pass thru the "protection" status and answer a question on any site even when they don't have that additional 10 rep on that site itself?
 
@NVZ apparently not
they can remove the protection, answer then add it back
;p
 
user315433
Whether stuff gets built depends on DAG, and D in DAG is for developer.
 
user315433
Since I'm not a developer, DAG has nothing to do with me, so... why bother with the feature request tag.
 
user315433
Or, the name is poorly chosen and they might do stuff that's not about getting more developers on SO.
 
nagging request
 
NVZ
3:53 PM
@JourneymanGeek ah, that's a way.
 
4:34 PM
@NVZ No. I was actually just talking with Jon about that. They can protect questions but if they also want to answer them, they have to answer them before protecting if they don't have the rep requirements.
 
4:50 PM
oOPS he turned off the wifi for an entire day. Turned on just now
 
user315433
5:03 PM
0
A: Which is correct: "in twos" or "by twos"?

becky gin twos i would say it dosent really make sence when u say two by twos thats like the movie ants yo the ants go marching two by two haruh haruh!!!!!

 
user315433
What movie was that?
 
Antz is a 1998 American computer-animated adventure comedy film directed by Eric Darnell and Tim Johnson and written by Paul Weitz, Chris Weitz, and Todd Alcott. The film stars Woody Allen, Sharon Stone, Jennifer Lopez, Sylvester Stallone, Dan Aykroyd, Anne Bancroft, and Gene Hackman. Some of the main characters share facial similarities with the actors who voice them. Antz is DreamWorks Pictures' first animated film, and the second feature-length computer-animated film after Disney/Pixar's Toy Story. The film's production resulted in a controversial public feud between DreamWorks co-founder Jeffrey...
There's this
but not sure about that...
 
Dear Remote, you forgot to pee
 
user315433
5:19 PM
The email is from an unrelyable source.
 
@bluefeet Understood. Thanks for looking into it.
 
@Michelle nopes
 
5:36 PM
They're good messages, redhond
 
NVZ
@Catija thanks
 
shag9, it's redhAnd not redhOnd o_O
 
NVZ
@redhand matters not.. :)
 
nopes
 
NVZ
Ok
 
5:43 PM
hiyya
@NVZ no
 
people started tracking me. can't change name. blaming Oded
 
Are you guys into anime ?
 
no
why
 
I answered many on Anime & Manga, but I haven't watched 99% of them
 
@redhand Umm.. there is no reason. Just asking.
@Elias nice
 
5:50 PM
bcoz repz r more importan than spoilerz
 
28 messages moved to Chimney
 
NVZ
6:04 PM
@Bumblebee funny you should say that. so you two are.
not that it matters. :)
 
@NVZ what?
ah these earth creature are always funny
 
NVZ
@Bumblebee i mean i know who you are. :)
 
I am Bumblebee, fighter. Friend of optimus. from cybertron. What else you want to know
 
ah good night guys. The person is playing with wifi. I can't make a good connection. it's too slow
 
NVZ
@Bumblebee why do you chose a camaro?
 
6:10 PM
@NVZ it is slow. I hate fast driving.
 
6:26 PM
(removed)
 
user315433
6:41 PM
CS Theory election is in trouble: 2017 Moderator Election - We need more candidates!
 
user315433
And they are electing just 1 new mod.
 
user315433
An anemic site with an obscure topic. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
I'm more a practical type of person ....
 
You have to escape your shruggy's right arm.
 
user315433
Aug 10 at 12:59, by Michelle
It's a special SE shrug, with an ironic reference to Markdown.
 
NVZ
6:46 PM
@Catija ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I fix things.
 
@NVZ Apparently it's intentional.
 
NVZ
@Catija okay, I'll break things as well. ¯_(ツ)_¯
 
7:08 PM
@Bumblebee slow???
If 155 mph is slow then what is fast in your view?
 
NVZ
@ShaWizDowArd 156
 
NVZ
@ShaWizDowArd how do you circle things instantly?
 
@NVZ I don't... using mspaint these days. Paint.NET became too complex and slow.
Screen Shot ==> mspaint --> paste --> FHRC --> copy --> paste
I think there are better tools, too lazy to get them. :D
 
NVZ
@ShaWizDowArd woah, you do all that in a blink..
 
7:14 PM
@NVZ lol... not really, I had the picture ready when posting the reply to dear @Bum ;)
Take me couple of minutes
 
NVZ
isn't there a chrome store app for that.. lemme dig..
 
Yeah tried something, it sucked, nuked it, using mspaint since.
 
NVZ
my pc was force updated today in the office. lost an hour for that. now i get some stupid paint 3d.
it's probably worth a real deal, but not yet for me.
windows 10 creative update i think
 
@NVZ about time! I got it few months ago after forced update. (Windows 10 do those once every month or so)
But not daring to use it, my computer is weak, it will probably crash
 
NVZ
i had this update installed a lifetime ago once, but then things got messy, and rolled back,
 
7:16 PM
oh
But why losing hour of work due to restart? That's not good. @NVZ
 
NVZ
yea, it was all over the tech world that time... this update crashed a lot of pcs.
@ShaWizDowArd its not. i didn't notice the "update and restart" title when I clicked on restart. silly me.
 
@NVZ oh so it took hour to restart? lol
 
Kaitlin Pike on October 02, 2017

Welcome, welcome, welcome to The Stack Overflow Podcast #117, recorded Thursday, September 28 in our beautiful SO NYC HQ. That’s a lot of letters.

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NVZ
actually several rounds of restarts (by design)
 
What did you do in that hour? Pulled your hair? @NVZ
 
NVZ
7:18 PM
@ShaWizDowArd i looked around.. saw people.. people with arms and legs.. just like me.
they were nice
 
@Feeds is it common to publish the podcast four days after it's recorded?
@NVZ they didn't try to eat you?
 
NVZ
@ShaWizDowArd apparently not, or did they
 
looking for bite marks on @NVZ
 
NVZ
what is the podcast anyway? do people listen to hours of it?
 
@NVZ yup. (not me though)
 
NVZ
7:21 PM
i'd have loved to hear sound bites or snippets from the full episode curated for nuts like me
 
7:39 PM
or a fictitious statement comprised of cut-and-paste dialog speech
 
user315433
8:03 PM
@ShaWizDowArd That was the case with the last 3 podcasts, stackoverflow.blog/podcasts. There were always a few days between recording and publishing. Even back in the stone age, when podcast acknowledged the existence of non-SO sites, it was in the form "X is in private beta now, but will be public by the time you hear this".
 
user315433
Nominations open on Math, two positions. math.stackexchange.com/election Hm... next time I'll be able to run in an election is ~August 2019, assuming no further suspensions (unlikely).
 
@Elias like "Stack Exchange sucks", by Shog or Joel? ;)
@Michelle huh, interesting!
 
user315433
Not one of their biggest hits, but I always liked the video.
 
user315433
10:30 PM
@Catija "NutraFoo" is a popular spam brand.
 
user315433
Title edit suggested
 
user315433
11:55 PM
 
user315433
That only took an hour.
 

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