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Shadow Wizard

7:17 AM

So the "bug" resolved itself.... @rene where are you??

@jag @Kenny can pee again! :D

Cold Fire

7:49 AM

lol

!!pee

KennyBOT

~ Let's build some dykes ....

Shadow Wizard

downloading Android Studio... /cc @Dro @ber :-D

currently reading...

rene

oh boy, you're doomed ...

Unless you go fix the SE Android App

Then good luck!

Shadow Wizard

Was tasked to write a simple app...

rene

@ShadowWizard I've written self-healing software, patent pending ...

2

KennyBOT

8:04 AM

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

rene

@ShadowWizard just submit the SE app ...

Shadow Wizard

@KennyBOT you are not star-worthy... :P

jagapathi

!!pee

KennyBOT

~ Evacuate the room, woman and children first!

Cold Fire

@ShadowWizard lmao doomed forever

KennyBOT

8:08 AM

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

jagapathi

lol so late

KennyBOT

~ What a mess ...

jagapathi

XD

is timer ok

DroidDev

8:30 AM

@ShadowWizard oh....what kinda app you'll be writing?

Shadow Wizard

8:42 AM

@DroidDev linking to web pages

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard oh...will the webpages open in app?

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev still not sure, maybe just open in browser.

Cold Fire

that is quite easy @ShadowWizard

jagapathi

-_-

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard hmm....lemme know if you need anything :D

Shadow Wizard

8:56 AM

> tap Build number seven times

LOLOLOL

Cold Fire

lol

that is for developer option

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard LMFAO, this is just the beginning :P

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev oh, I know..... :D

This reminds me of:

Battle of Jericho

According to the Book of Joshua, the Battle of Jericho was the first battle of the Israelites in their conquest of Canaan. According to Joshua 6:1-27, the walls of Jericho fell after Joshua's Israelite army marched around the city blowing their trumpets. Excavations at Tell es-Sultan, the biblical Jericho, have failed to produce data to substantiate the biblical story, and scholars are virtually unanimous that the Book of Joshua holds little historical value. == Joshua 6:1-27 == The story of Jericho is told in Joshua 6:1-27. The first five books of the Hebrew Bible tell how Noah cursed Canaan to...

Cold Fire

how is the battle related to coding?

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard oh...lol. You will be victorious. Don't worry ;P

Shadow Wizard

9:05 AM

> On the seventh day they marched seven times around the walls, then the priests blew their ram's horns, the Israelites raised a great shout, and the walls of the city fell.

So anything involving doing same action seven times reminds me of this.... ;)

@Dro should I install HAXM?

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard only if you are installing emulator. Otherwise, no need

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev yeah, I prefer not to risk my phone yet...

Cold Fire

@ShadowWizard oh nice well you have 3 android dev to help you here

maňish

pri pro pri pro

Shadow Wizard

@ColdFire thanks!

@maňish only @Pri @Pro works, @Pra is MIA

> Android SDK is up to date.
> Running Intel® HAXM installer
> Intel HAXM installed successfully!
> Done

jagapathi

9:56 AM

another android dev

\o/

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard there's no risk to phone in any way. Since you are the one developing that app, its a trusted application, which won't harm the phone.

Shadow Wizard

10:33 AM

yay!

@DroidDev that's the thing, I don't trust myself to not make some huge bug.... O_o

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard woah...you've done it already!

@ShadowWizard haha...trust me, you won't be able to induce a bug that easily. There is a permission structure for android, and every app has to ask permissions for doing certain things, also, potential bug inducing things are even out of reach of user...so you don't need to worry about it ;)

Shadow Wizard

:)

KennyBOT

11:40 AM

~ Hitchcock: Shadow of a Genius

Shadow Wizard

12:27 PM

@Dro Gradle build got stuck, after 10 minutes I tried to stop it, nothing happens... Android Studio won't even close now. Is this common? :/

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard yup, though android studio will close eventually (or you can just start task manager and bam!). But, once you start gradle, there's no stopping it. The red close button that they show next to progress of gradle, does absolutely nothing in my experience :/

btw, judging from the project you are developing, what PC specs do you have? Since gradle doesn't take 10 minutes on a small project.

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev the first build took 50 seconds, I just gave it time as no idea how long it should/can take, lol

I suspect it happened because I deleted items in the resource view. :(

At first there was build error, missing ID, fixed that, rebuild, and.... stuck.

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard umm...I don't think so. Gradle checks all the dependencies you've added (external libraries etc), cleans the project, builds it according to specs again. That's it. Not related to alterations in views

Shadow Wizard

OK, going to kill the process and try again.

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard try again and lemme know what error you face

Shadow Wizard

12:34 PM

@DroidDev there was compile error in MainActivity.java, there is auto added code there referencing items I removed.

bam! killed. ~1.2GB memory free again...

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard oh...I think that might be related to test classes that android studio adds by itself. Removing it shouldn't do anything to gradle

@ShadowWizard lol....I totally know the feel. I got 4 gb ram in my pc. Opening chrome and android studio kills it

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev wow... used to have 4GB for long time too, added 4 more few months ago.

DroidDev

my PC works with 4 gigs for now. So, I won't be spending money on that. Gone are the days when I'd have done that for games

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev oh, talking about computer at work, they pay for it. At home I have something very basic, can't run any games on it. Moved to PS4. :)

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard oh...you've got a PS4. Buys a ticket to Israel

Shadow Wizard

12:45 PM

lol it's cheaper than gaming computer. Though can't really download games for it, only buy.

DroidDev

hmm..you can download games on pc and then burn them on disc

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev hmm... well, actually, since I don't play that much, I feel like paying is the proper thing to do. :)

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard gotcha.. :)

Shadow Wizard

@Dro what's the difference between the two "text" here?

Should I always just change both?

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard woah...never opened that. I always code from text part :/

maybe @Col or @ber know

Shadow Wizard

12:56 PM

@DroidDev hehe, considered doing that, but using the design view look easier... :)

DroidDev

@ShadowWizard hmm...I only do it since I started when it was norm. I grew into it actually

although, I think the above text is what you see on scree. Don't have a clue about the second one. Maybe copying the text written there will give some insight

Rahul2001

This is some mind-blowing research on the effectiveness of Clickbaiting

Check it out!

Shadow Wizard

Well, changing the top worked, but still wonder why there are two...

@Rahul2001 lolz.. :D

DroidDev

I don't have a clue either

Shadow Wizard

1:10 PM

Another one...

What's the difference between "invisible" and "gone"? @Dro :)

I want to hide element now, instead of deleting it.

DroidDev

Gone: it will remove the space the view occupies on screen, as well as hiding it
Invisible: The view won't be visible on screen, but it will still occupy the space it had

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev huh, exactly like CSS "display" vs. "visibility". Cool, thanks!

DroidDev

of course, none will "delete" the view from your screen. You can make them visible again by setting visibility to "visible" programatically

@ShadowWizard oh....never knew these attributes in css

rene

@ShadowWizard hey, looks like they didn't re-invent the wheel then ... and a new mental model ...

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev yup. Applying "display: none;" is the common thing, and as you wrote will "remove the space the element occupies on screen, as well as hiding it". Setting "visibility: hidden;" will cause it "won't be visible on screen, but it will still occupy the space it had"

@rene of course, less work for them... though the wording is weird. ;)

DroidDev

1:14 PM

oh....I only used display: none until now O_O

rene

@DroidDev On a body tag?

DroidDev

@rene lol no....on other views like image tag etc

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev well that's the common use... actually used visibility CSS rule very rarely, remember it exists only because it stuck for some reason while I learned CSS. :)

DroidDev

oh lol...

Shadow Wizard

...lol ho

Rahul2001

1:22 PM

𝓸𝓱 𝓵𝓸𝓵...

...𝕝𝕠𝕝 𝕙𝕠

Shadow Wizard

╙╘╒

Rahul2001

𝖜𝖍𝖆𝖙 𝖊𝖛𝖆

DroidDev

lel...I never even thought of that

Rahul2001

𝓾𝓷𝓲𝓬𝓸𝓭𝓮 𝓜𝓐𝓖𝓘𝓒!

Shadow Wizard

lol

Rahul2001

1:24 PM

:6104655 It did, but I didn't see it

Shadow Wizard

copied wrong text. Ready? 3... 2... 1...

@Ⓡⓐⓗⓤⓛ②⓪⓪① ⓓⓞⓔⓢ ⓣⓗⓘⓢ ⓟⓘⓝⓖ ⓨⓞⓤ? :Ⓓ

Rahul2001

nope

Shadow Wizard

:(

Rahul2001

But guess what?

https://𝓻𝓪𝓱𝓾𝓵.𝓽𝓮𝓬𝓱 is a valid URL

Shadow Wizard

>

lol

Rahul2001

1:26 PM

:P

Shadow Wizard

throwing rainbowcookie on @Rah and @Dro

DroidDev

~ munch munch

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard Checkout weblog.php too :P

Haven't migrated the posts yet, but the whole thing is a single PHP file

170 lines of code - Complete blog

Shadow Wizard

nice

Rahul2001

Also, if anyone is interested in hacking, I'm working on hackchal.cf

Shadow Wizard

1:29 PM

@Rahul2001 not sure about it being "valid", more like the browser is changing this to the actual URL. :)

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard Yeah, that

Shadow Wizard

So how's your gf? @Rah

DroidDev

pokes @ber and makes him read message above

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard It's kinda on hold... She's super serious about her studies and a scholarship exam is coming up

Shadow Wizard

@DroidDev that's cruel! ;)

@Rahul2001 sorry to hear.... hope it will resume soon. :D

Rahul2001

1:32 PM

@ShadowWizard Hope so too :)

Shadow Wizard

Wait... but are you on hold? Or looking for something else already?

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard I am not.

Shadow Wizard

@Rahul2001 good... very loyal. :)

Well there was someone here was is super fast....

Sep 20 '16 at 19:03, by NiKoLaPrO

@ShadowWizard I do, she is actually my first girlfriend, and we are almost 6 months in relationship, so when we broke up i found new gf same day, and she was really jelly, so i back to start :D

@NiKoLaPrO boo! Where are you??

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard I did that once

Rahul2001

1:54 PM

Well, uh...

@ShadowWizard github.com/rahuldottech/casanova

Cold Fire

2:41 PM

what you need @ShadowWizard?

Shadow Wizard

@ColdFire so far nothing, thanks! :)

Cold Fire

i thought i was pinged

Shadow Wizard

@Rahul2001 heh, awesome.... but it's outdated, no? :/

@ColdFire oh, yeah.... not really a problem just something weird, see this - what's the difference between the two "text" elements?

@Dro has no clue :/

Cold Fire

@ShadowWizard show the code

xml i mean

Shadow Wizard

2:59 PM

<TextView
    android:layout_width="wrap_content"
    android:layout_height="wrap_content"
    android:text="Welcome to Integral!"
    app:layout_constraintBottom_toBottomOf="parent"
    app:layout_constraintLeft_toLeftOf="parent"
    app:layout_constraintRight_toRightOf="parent"
    app:layout_constraintTop_toTopOf="parent"
    tools:text="Welcome to Integral!" />

Changed both to be the same in the designer, the first (top) is what actually changed the text in the app itself.

Now I see the second one is "tools:text" in the XML...

So what does it all mean?

@Col ^

Cold Fire

@ShadowWizard it means the text in view

there are 2 types of text

one that is the actual text

and other one is the view only text

its helpful if you want to view text in layout and not write actual text there

@ShadowWizard did you get what i said?

tools one is the view only text

and android text is the text that is actually applied to it

Shadow Wizard

@ColdFire not really.... so who see the tools:text? Where?

Is it like some "tag" I can attach to the element?

Cold Fire

if you use tools:text it only shows in the editor

and not when you run the app

Shadow Wizard

So it reminds me of the .NET "Tag" property. Nice!

/cc @Dro ^

Cold Fire

we have tag property but that is for different use

this tools:text is not related to it

Shadow Wizard

3:05 PM

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/…

Cold Fire

all using tools are mostly for use in editor only

and not in actual app

and they have no effect when you run it

@ShadowWizard^

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard no, updated today

Shadow Wizard

@ColdFire yeah, got it.... I think. Thanks! :)

@Rahul2001 typo alert! "becouse" should be "because". ;)

Also, how you pick the names? @Rahul (assume Ikra isn't her real name.... ;))

Rahul2001

@ShadowWizard Everytime I start dating a girl, I ask her for an "internet alias" so that I can refer to her on chat rooms :P

Shadow Wizard

@Rahul2001 huh... nice! And if no such alias you break up with her? ;)

My wife has no alias for example. O_o

Rahul2001

3:19 PM

@ShadowWizard Lol, I just choose one then :P

Shadow Wizard

oh lol

Rahul2001

I did for the first two, and then when I realized it was becoming a tradition of sorts, I asked my third girlfriend to choose herself

Shadow Wizard

@Rahul2001 nice... looking forward to an update saying "Expecting my first child"... :D

(in 6-8 years? ;))

Rahul2001

3:45 PM

@ShadowWizard I'm 16... And this is India... So in a decade, probably :P

ProgramFOX

@ShadowWizard Doesn't mean you have to ;P

KennyBOT

4:52 PM

~ The Dancing Wizard

Cold Fire

@Rahul2001 lol

Shadow Wizard

6:52 PM

@ProgramFOX but... it's fun!! :D

KennyBOT

7:52 PM

~ Shadow of Deception

KennyBOT

9:53 PM

~ The Shadow Box

KennyBOT

11:29 PM

~ Not everything is star-worthy...

~ Stars get removed under peer-pressure?

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