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12:37 AM
Reorg: stackoverflow.com/company/team no longer has "Customer Support" and "Sales - Display Ads" teams, both are folded into "Sales - Talent". Hm. (Web Archive for comparison)
So, "Sales - Talent" ended up with 129 employees.
@ShadowWizard Is there an opening for token gay guy?
@JamesENL already taken
1:09 AM
@Gerry just curious (and its useful for me for reasons) - what's with the super close eyes on the SE internal jobs page? ;p
1:33 AM
you ask that question because you don't know what gerry is
gerry is a bot ... of the lowest kind - it's a manually operated bot
1:48 AM
trust me, I am right on this one
3:07 AM
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5:46 AM
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6:12 AM
@JamesENL you're still looking? :(
I'm on Grindr atm, but its got an awful Signal/Noise ratio
@JamesENL isn't it just for.... casual/one-time things?
Ehhh originally I believe so, but it's changed and evolved over time
So it's both casual one time and also social networking and also more soul destroying than the PHP tag on SO
6:16 AM
Just develop a thick skin there
That's one strategy
The other strategy is just get 20 cats
problem solved
Don't let disappearing people disappoint you by simply not expecting them to really appear. :)
And so, if they really appear, have this as a pleasant surprise. ;)
So I take it that Tim won't be back? @James
Probably not
I don't know
spam with image, no link though ^ (also spam edit so better nuke this account to prevent those /cc @JNat)
@JamesENL or one dog
6:20 AM
@ShadowWizard .... that's a really big microusb
@JourneymanGeek hehe, didn't even look, just flagged. :)
or get 8 cats, 1 dog & couple of parrots
@JourneymanGeek there are certain things one just can't do with dog, or cats.... :D
(or parrots)
you will be so busy taking care of them, you won't have time to have your own problems
6:25 AM
@ShadowWizard I knew a guy who was into .... but he was beating a dead horse
@JourneymanGeek whatever sails his boat..... :P
"knew" - so you don't know him anymore? ;)
@ShadowWizard tragic taxidermy accident
6:44 AM
taxi what?
@ShadowWizard dead, stuffed, animals
Sounds more bizarre than most things I can think of... and I usually think of really bizarre things.... ;)
I need rescue, youtube has suggest a Squirrel Eating Mouse video to me and I watched it ...
@Telkitty at least you're not locked at your girlfriend's house!
I am not a lesbian
6:52 AM
in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 23 hours ago, by Edlothiad
I've been locked in my girlfriends house, send help!
@Telkitty no worry, we still love you.
7:16 AM
@ShadowWizard Wind?
7:37 AM
@JamesENL that can work too... ;)
8:17 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: how to add multiple space between columns in Unix by Sharon Maxwell on unix.SE
8:29 AM
@Bart well, that was a nice try ...
blunt Dutch
@rene aaaaand, he's going back to Facebook. I'd say problem solved.
8:51 AM
@Bart agree. Facebook should be a valid migration path on all questions
I'd go for Yahoo!, but as you wish
8:53 AM
After the recent Windows Update my laptop goes into hibernate after 2 minutes or so. I hardly have time to think about what the next line of code should be.
@rene happens to me with desktop PC, Windows 10. But from the very beginning, or at least one of the first updates installed there.
I leave the computer for like 5 minutes, and it's turning off its hard disk.
somehow it does not do it while I'm actually near it, no idea how, so never bothered to look into it. :D
That is because the webcam picks-up your movement
(the settings there clearly says turn off hard disk after 2 hours, if it matters.)
@rene no webcam
Power management has gone insane
9:01 AM
(at least none I put there myself ;))
@ShadowWizard whoahahahahahahha hahaha hahaha haha ha ....
Glad someone is happy!
I'm always happy
Note to self: stop doing weird things in front of computer even when nobody is around
@rene except for when you're not
@ShadowWizard So that was you doing that thing with that . . . ?
9:04 AM
@M.A.R. of course not, I'm not like that! It's all in your mind.
@ShadowWizard Knowledge of other citizen mind-state is above your current clearance level and therefore is considered treason. Please report to the nearest debriefing chamber for immediate termination. Thanks for the collaboration. Your friend The Computer wishes you an happy day-cycle.
9:52 AM
@Derpy On-hold two minutes ago
not his first OT question, better be suspended.
@Oded? You here?!
I lost a meta question
10:08 AM
like, baleeted?
no idea ... it's one about internet security, the butt scan chair one
it's gone ...
Bah, that was a fun trolling. :(
Maybe because SE plagiarized it in their butt-auth thingy.
@ShadowWizard Behavioral analysis of Blue clearance level personnel performed by Infrared-level citizen is also treason. Please, wait at your current location while an automated security drone is dispatched to terminate your new clone and relocate you to SE salt mines. Friend Computer wishes you a productive day.
10:11 AM
that's not fair - all other April fools questions are still there
10:20 AM
but everyone are doing that!
Anyway @Tel that's the only related question I could find:
Q: Mysterious Butt

theChrisKentI was attempting to answer a question today on SO and include some screenshots to help illustrate what I was talking about. Everything was fine until I went to upload my fourth image. Here is what the post screen looked like before I selected to upload: Once I pressed the Image button I got t...

11:09 AM
@ShadowWizard will skip scolding you for this link only because the bug is a nice example of Murphy law at work
could combine it with some AR tech.
Just put some Hololens on your cows and you can have Augmented reality dogs herd your cows automatically when they wander off.
11:31 AM
Hello everyone
@Derpy oo
Darned technology, putting honest dogs out of work
@BerryHolmes hola! @Ber pings only you here...... :)
(only two multi-ping sets here... Sho and Tim.... ;))
@SmokeDetector gone
11:54 AM
A request: Can I get 21 reputation for my bot please?
A: Ability to "lock" your profile on a site

user359094I agree, but I definitely would want two separate checkboxes: The first checkbox would be for your profile picture, because it is somewhat inconvenient to first download a picture from imgur and then re-upload it (not to mention for a higher quality pic I need to change the ?s=32 attribute to a...

12:26 PM
God I hate SourceTree so much. Why are people still using that? What a heap of shit.
@Bart huh! Me too..... my first experience with it was that it was stuck. Frozen. Dead... turned out it choked due to too much data to pull, had to manually pull.
Last time I checked, SourceTree was the only vaguely usable git GUI client
I still haven't found any git GUI for Linux that doesn't completely suck
12:41 PM
@ShadowWizard just had someone inform me that their "remote" change went wrong. Apparently the UI is so unclear that they didn't notice the new remote they set was not for the repo they thought they were modifying ... then you push and voila ... miraculously merged repos with commits from 2 different projects.
> Lost my stack exchange hoodie in the Amsterdam airport. If you're there look around near gate D29 and enjoy your new hoodie! ;) -- David Haney at 5:42 AM - 16 May 2017 cc: @rene
12:56 PM
Quick, @rene, make a run through security and bust into the gate. It might still be there.
@Bart ouch! that's a real mess. And you need to clean this up?
bah, @David looks creepy in his Twitter profile...
And what exactly is a SE hoodie?
@ShadowWizard yeah, fixed it, but I see more stuff go wrong with SourceTree than that it's an actual help. Command line is just so much easier than that tool
oh, this:
@Gerry you are so mean :'( ... all the meanie acts because I called you a manual bot? 😱 😰 😢 😥 😭
@Bart so go on a strike until the boss tell everyone to use only command line... make a Stand! ;-)
1:08 PM
also I can't decipher hints, all your subtleness will be ignored
@Telkitty just a twitter bot, why mean? ;)
I got massive lags again
just on normal browsers, not slow when using tor
massive legs is bad
@JasonC I'll try but I might be gone for 6 to 8 weeks ...
1:16 PM
@rene given the recent comments about how Schiphol staff is completely overwhelmed, you may have a chance
Anita Taylor on May 16, 2017

Shakespeare famously wrote that a rose by any other name would smell as sweet … but, alas! ‘tis not so for mobile apps. At least not the Stack Exchange mobile app that we launched back in 2014. Without that sweet Stack Overflow name, some of you never discovered that you could use it to view, answer, post and vote on Stack Overflow questions.

So we just launched the new Stack Overflow Official App that lets you … (drumroll, please) … view, answer, post and vote on Stack Overflow questions. Both iOS and Android versions are now available for download. The Android app is currently in beta. All of the functionality is working, but we are making small tweaks to the user interface. …

Not even bothering to try it. Waste of time. The android app surely got the same bugs as the old app, probably much more.
And as usual they will ignore all bug reports and feature requests anyone might submit.
Speaking of apps, I did something that many experienced developers said that couldn't be done. They said that my app would be rejected for sure for using an obsolete library. But I did some quick hax on the part of the lib & the app passed app review.
1:32 PM
@Telkitty so you tricked the reviewers. Awesome!
Some cars company got few billions dollars fine for trickery, FYI. ;)
the ultimate show of elitism is to accomplish what others said can not be done </shameless_self_promotion>
I did it a couple of time on a few very different things, ultimate boost for ones ego >_<
@Telkitty well, using obsolete code does not sound good. Just bad.
The fact you hide it doesn't make it better, maybe only worse... o_O
well, they made it obsolete first
1:36 PM
a good system should use the same interface but improve on the backend
Anyway... you find weird things to be proud of. :)
> I still use Winamp. #ThereISaidIt -- Also, at this very moment I'm using it to listen to Ace of Base. So judge me. -- Ben Dumke-v. d. Ehe
I was just about to judge balpha for WinAmp, but... an excellent save there.
1:48 PM
But I still wouldn't use Winamp when Amazon Prime has pretty much their complete catalog.
Edited foe few minutes and then..
David Robinson on May 16, 2017

In honor of Google I/O 2017 and the launch of the official Stack Overflow mobile app, we on the Stack Overflow Insights team are sharing a look at the fast-paced history of mobile application development.

We can do this with the recently released Stack Overflow Trends tool, which lets us examine what mobile-related technologies have been growing and shrinking in developer activity, and gives us a glimpse of what the future might look like.

The vast majority of Stack Overflow questions about mobile development come down to the Android and iOS platforms. …

@ShadowWizard did Kasra ever reply to you?
@JasonC yes what about it?
That's all about it. Just wanted to make sure it was publicly visible. I'm not really familiar with Google Photos.
1:53 PM
@Bart on my comment today? Yes
The usual
But he didn't reply to any bug report or feature request for years, so it's all not relevant.
It's like a dog that only barks, but doesn't really do anything.
@JasonC so just open it in Incognito mode. :)
@ShadowWizard Oh good idea I always forget about that.
@Fawad happens to the best, no worry.
@JasonC that's what we're here for....
@ShadowWizard Yes, the post basically says it's the same app, rebranded.
> your notifications will be split between the two. Your Stack Overflow notifications will appear in the Stack Overflow app, and all other Stack Exchange notifications will appear in the Stack Exchange app.
Unbelievably convenient.
1:57 PM
Wait...what if I don't have the SO app? Do I lose all my SO notifications when only using the SE app?
> but in 6 months my team might be doing mobile-web if that helps the company more
So they got a 6 months dead line, after which the app will be shut down.
@ShadowWizard you left a comment some time ago on the app announcement iirc
(and its two devs will work on mobile web instead)
@Andy nah, hard to believe. They should still appear in the old app. If not it's a REALLY stupid decision.
@ShadowWizard So they'll finally have a chance to do something useful.
@Gerry true! I'll just miss the notifications.
2:01 PM
from my extensive experience with apps, I can tell you that you can have zombie apps in apple app store and on google play for quite a while ... that is, until they get caught
@Bart oh, in Stack Apps? Let me check...
@Feeds I read that as "Exploring Stack Overflow Trends with the Mobile"...
@Telkitty they won't bother to remove it from the store/play, they will just shut the server down.
@Bart not Kasra, Brian:
@ShadowWizard Guess I should rephrase. The app will still have some key features from SE.app. Split list and item view in landscape, live question preview, but it isn't getting special UI treatment in the way of having it's own special navigation compared to iPhone and it won't have its own custom user profile view. Some views will definitely be sparse or overly spread out compared to their iPhone counterparts, but probably not much more so than in the SE app. — Brian Nickel ♦ May 9 at 18:56
I never asked Kasra anything there.
oh wait, I did ask!
So no, no reply to that comment to Kasra.
Oh man! I just now learned that unicode 9 finally added a facepalm emoji. I'm anxiously awaiting the day for wider support.
I can't believe how long it took them.
If only there was an emoji to express how you feel about that
2:10 PM
Hope it has several versions: male/female and black/white
@Bart 🎉
@ShadowWizard If they're consistent you'll be able to use the skin tone modifiers.
@ShadowWizard they managed to combine that into one emoji. Male white palm into a female black face. To keep everybody happy.
They really should have made it a modifier though, so I could make "FACEPALMING CAT WITH SMILING EYES"
@JasonC yeah, but can't modify gender, just color
@Bart how you know it's male palm?
@ShadowWizard You can modify gender. You do a ZWJ with the male/female signs.
2:13 PM
@Bart like this?
they have been quite racist about cats, only one coloured cat emojis ...
The female modifier is fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/2640/index.htm. It's how they make all the face variants. You use a fitzpatrick modifier for skin tone and a male/female sign for gender.
Hey @Derpy which pony is this?
2:16 PM
@ShadowWizard Applejack
@JasonC huh! Will have to look into it
I'm embarrassed that I knew that.
@JasonC how... do you know?!
I don't actually know how I know. It's weird.
And I'm disturbed by this.
Oh no. @Derpy hacked into your brain and planted that knowledge there. @Jason
Run full virus scan!
2:17 PM
I don't know if I want to do a virus scan. I might not be ready for the truth.
Let's talk about something else.
Or maybe you got a photographic memory, and you remember it from the old times in Den, where we were all there together and SPA posted tons of pony stuff. :D
... yes. Yes. I'm sure that's it. I'm sure it has nothing to do with my friend bragging about her collection of MLP porn at all.
omg lol
Well that escalated quickly.
Good think Derpy isn't around!
Quick let's bury this
2:20 PM
@ShadowWizard plz send teh coffee
When I reimplement the transcript scraper I'll censor this day.
@ShadowWizard brews coffee for @ShadowWizard
2:21 PM
@JasonC I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network and posts alerts to chat. A command list is available here.
@ShadowWizard brews a cup of darjeeling tea for @ShadowWizard
!!/lick something
@JasonC licks ice cream cone
2:22 PM
@Feeds translate darjeeling
!!/blame someone
@ShadowWizard It's Shadow Wizard's fault.
Ok I'm good now my monitor is only 1440x900.
Still seeing it... two lines to go...
That's it!
@JasonC Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...
2:22 PM
@JasonC 0_0
that's pretty terrible
Like nothing ever happened.
@JourneymanGeek I really like my friends.
enough to suffer under a 1440x900 screen? ;p
2:23 PM
@JourneymanGeek how big is yours?
Oh you're referring to the screen
(screen, screen!)
Dual UHD
1440p laptop
2:24 PM
It's my laptop. And it's really old.
hi @nbro you new here?
work laptop's 1080p, but I'd trade down to 1366x768 if it would mean a good chair
Is there a way to rejoin all favourite Stack Overflow and non chats in one shot? Right now I'm able to rejoin simultaneously all non-SO chats, but, afterwards, I also need to rejoin manually the SO ones...
@JourneymanGeek Oh my friend just got this awesome office chair that I want to get for myself. But I don't know what kind it is. I've been meaning to ask him. When I do I'll let you know.
@JourneymanGeek lol, can't you buy a chair for yourself?
2:25 PM
SO and non SO and MSOs are on different rooms
@ShadowWizard no paycheck yet
@nbro There's 3 separate chat servers and they're all independent, unfortunately.
and I don't think I'll be here longer than I need to
@JourneymanGeek parents might help... health is important.
@JasonC Oh... which chat servers are those?
@nbro SO, MSE, the rest
2:26 PM
@ShadowWizard maybe
@nbro chat.stackoverflow.com for all the SO rooms. chat.meta.stackexchange.com for the MSE rooms. chat.stackexchange.com for every other site.
A: Tutorial on starting Stack Exchange chat

Shadow WizardStack Exchange chat crash course 101 for dummies One network, three chat "zones" First of all, one needs to know that Stack Exchange has three chat "zones", which are: Stack Overflow Meta Stack Exchange All the rest Each of those zones has its own rooms. Viewing existing chat rooms To ent...

Only SO and MSE are separate, the rest of the sites are all together.
domains are mentioned there too ^
@JasonC you have lots of friends, with various things they got..... ;)
2:28 PM
@nbro Your best bet is probably to favorite the rooms you like, then bookmark chat.meta.stackexchange.com/chats/join/favorite on each of the three servers. If you use a session manager you can save a session with all three. You'll still have to click one more button on each but it's about as close as you can get to being convenient.
@JasonC I kinda want this secretlab.co/local
That looks nice.
This one has nice lumbar support and is pretty badass looking too.
Yeah, its on my wishlist
SE uses aeons
my employer 2 employers ago used em
they're pretty good to
Yeah it's mesh
(singapore retailer - 2-3x the price :( )
2:39 PM
Did a quick test on SO Android app... no access to MSO, multiple drafts, view favorite questions on SO (sorted by 'active' and only), browsing history, poster and editor's usernames are now shown (but still no revision history)... well, that's all?
I won't test any further because I need sandbox, but there's none.
oh, and no 'help' :)
@JourneymanGeek No it was definitely not that pricey, but had a similar look. I'm gonna find out. I just messaged him on FB and I'll probably run into him this week, too.
ah lol
It was like $150-$200 I think.
It's got a lot of bang for the buck but isn't nearly as high end as those secretlab chairs. I don't have the money for a $800 office chair (wish I did) right now.
2:42 PM
no documentation, no jobs, still better to use SE app browsing SO...
Elephant, reporting out on SO Android app
@JasonC heh, its probably going to be a purchase I'm planning long term, and when its on discount
I have a genuine leather office chair, I bought it for $200-$300 and have used it for 10 years now.
I go through one of these every few years ikea.com/sg/en/catalog/products/50339414
nowadays it's hard to find good quality chairs like this
3:16 PM
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3:57 PM
i wonder if amazon's 3-year accident protection covers having an accident on the chair...
4:25 PM
I didn't get this meme^
@JasonC @Telkitty @bjb568
@Fawad Based on assumption that fat people tend to run away from problem by eating more.
Got it @Elephant
4:50 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Why does Indiana Jones say 'I like Ike'? by saqib on movies.SE
5:30 PM
@Fawad and also youtube.com/watch?v=OzpXuRCBgsM is a famous old song, so he quote "big girls don't cry" is an idiom
but in the song "big" means grown-up. the meme takes advantage of "big" also meaning physically large.
Wanted to make a feature request for specify a tag wiki's name in the achievements dropdown. Then I found an old, slightly outdated request asking the same thing
Q: Can the activity dropdown say more than just "+2 tag wiki"?

waiwai933When one earns reputation from making tag wiki edits, the activity drop-down, shown when hovering over one's username, just says +2 tag wiki. There is no indication of which tag wiki was edited, or whether it was a tag wiki or a tag wiki excerpt. This gets particularly silly and useless if one ed...

Should I suggest an edit to the old question with new screenshots and title to reflect the new dropdown?
Wasn't sure if that would be rejected as too major an edit
@JasonC I was actually planning on making a MSE question about why the chat servers were separate. :P
6:03 PM
load, history, privileges and reasons, many reasons.
Not sure about load, isn't it tiny compared to websites?
@StevenVascellaro I don't see the point. The request is there, and it's clear what it's asking for. The interface is now different between SO and other sites, so a screenshot will not match everyone, in any case.
The app announcement is now at +30 -30 score.
@Gerry yeah, that is true, maybe it should be load-balancing where you can have at least one of the servers still running while others are down.
6:31 PM
@Gerry I'll make it an edit then. Thanks
@Gerry I wonder whether most of the down voters use the iOS or Android apps. From what I've heard about the Android app, I'd guess the latter.
I don't use either, and DV'd it simply as another illustration of the pointy-haired management that permeated S* recently.
6:46 PM
@StevenVascellaro I assume you have iOS, have you tried the app?
I'm personally confused for their decision to implement 'multiple drafts', when it's already difficult to write a question on mobile (not to mention, source code).
Interaction with SO posts tends to involve either copying or pasting... to/from something that typically is not used on a phone.
7:06 PM
Speaking of copying and pasting: Bioinformatics is in private beta now.
7:18 PM
Current total questions' score: 1 (out of 9 questions)
7:35 PM
And of course, half of questions by kenorb.
7:57 PM
@Elephant I've used the new iOS app. The multiple drafts was already a feature in the base app.
I actually quite like the multiple drafts
@rene I got an sql question. I can do count(a) to count non-null a's. I can do count(coalesce(a, b)) to count where a or b is not null. Is there a way to count if a and b is not null that's shorter than sum(iif(a is not null and b is not null, 1, 0))?
This is the site you are on. You can find the appropriate site in the site list at stackexchange.com/sites. — Jason C 2 mins ago
Reading that list might be less helpful than you think
I mean, that's a lot of sites.
"giving a book explaining how to fish"
I'm not trying to be 100% helpful. Just mildly helpful.
9:10 PM
Challenge: recite the complete list of SE sites from memory. In alphabetical order. Backwards.
A girl I dated in college, her parents had 27 cats. I used to be able to list them all, lol.
@Gerry is the first one Russian.SE? Or is it ja.SO?
Anyways, SO is the first one on the list. So maybe they'll see it.
Impressive. Will Hunting could recite the names of his 12 big brothers, which however only led to more complications. Should have done cats instead.
@Elephant No idea, when different alphabets are involved. Unicode code points ....
9:14 PM
@Elephant japanese according to the site list
At least I got the first one more or less right
Woah, the Gboard search function must be used with care...
9:30 PM
> (or who search their respective app marketplace for “Stack Overflow”)
Just tried that, the old SE app is the top result. How odd. Who would think that Google knows how to implement search?
Kasra's modest assessment of his product.
10:44 PM
Q: Formatting Sandbox

Ólafur Waage As per Jeff's suggestion in this comment: You can use this question as a formatting sandbox. You can edit this question itself (Community Wiki questions such as this one require 100 reputation to edit) post answers to this question (This question may be protected, requiring earning 10 reput...

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