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@zaq I don't get what makes something count as a head start rather than just a normal activity that may enhance the ability in a particular area leading to the natural specialization that anyone who wants any money must go thru anyway.

bjb568

12:32 AM

web.mit.edu/2.009/webcast

Aaron Hall

So what is that?

bjb568

Dunno yet.

Aaron Hall

ok then.

user315433

BJB is waiting for ED from MIT

user315433

> I'd want column 0 to have say 0.25, column 1 to have 0.5 and column 2 to have 0.24. therefore the magnitude of values would follow the bell curve with the mean at the middle column

user315433

12:40 AM

PSA: to "follow the bell curve" does not mean to be small, and then large, and then small again.

Shog9

12:57 AM

Then I've been living my life all wrong.

Aaron Hall

> O ye'll tak' the high road, and I'll tak' the low road,
And I'll be in Scotland afore ye,

bjb568

user202362

The rate of student suicide at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology continues to be notably higher than the national average for college campuses

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bjb568

@Telkitty Tends to be the case with high-pressure schools.

user202362

1:12 AM

true

Aaron Hall

Yeah, they should look at the top 10 and the top 100 probably...

user202362

1:50 AM

user315433

2:25 AM

user315433

Those are types of rule violations. Teachers these days...

Aaron Hall

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user315433

I've answered a bunch of questions from secondary school teachers using Google Sheets. Their spreadsheets are often like this.

user315433

drive.google.com/…

Jason C

Lol, "PDA (Personal Display of Affection)"

I really want to know what the "Other"s are.

user315433

2:30 AM

> Shorts were borderline. Told not to wear back.

Jason C

Lol

"Other Consequence Issued: Terminated"

user315433

> Internet search in class re "How to make a bomb".Put out on assessment.Referred to SRO.Further consequences pending outcome of assessment.

Jason C

Lol

I like how "bus misbehavior" comes in groups on the same day.

user202362

@JasonC is swearing a kind of Personal Display of Affection?

user315433

> Wearing sunglasses in classroom. Comment: Also is a cat.
(Haven't seen @bjb's disciplinary record yet)

Jason C

2:35 AM

Haha I love this one: "Dress Code Violation. Comment: Also cutting in lunch line."

There he is, Fang-Ming Chang, future unabomber.

@zaq OMG, there's a student here named Promise Land.

She caused a "major disruption" in the cafeteria by arguing with another student. I bet that was epic.

@AlexisKing This is so much fun. drive.google.com/…

Promise is in here 3 times.

Alexis King

wait what is this and why did you ping me about it

Jason C

It's some random disciplinary report from some school that zaq had.

Alexis King

why are students being issued days of open source software?

Jason C

And I pinged you because NOBODY WAS APPRECIATING PROMISE LAND.

Ha, "mooning students"

I miss high school.

Alexis King

I was in high school 2 years ago

I don’t really miss it very much

Jason C

2:46 AM

"Planted Concerta tablets on another student then reported to the SRO (False info and possession). Accepted crimestopper money."

Nice.

Workin the system.

"Forgot shop glasses" requires disciplinary action?

user315433

Probably suspecting it's a way to avoid the class. Guilty until proved innocent.

Jason C

"Dismissed from SD at 10:57 for vegetating." What

Oh that could make sense.

Jeez they check the kids with dogs?

user315433

Yes, for drugs.

Jason C

Public schools, how barbaric. Pssh.

bjb568

@zaq :o

Aaron Hall

2:56 AM

You guys are having too much fun.

polices the fun

user315433

Well, it beats answering that question. Which I'll probably do anyway.

bjb568

@zaq This really is the case. It's simply expected that student cannot ware hats or hoods inside. Who knows why. But I now have the reflex, drilled into me since Kindergarten, to take off my hood when walking inside.

It's like if all of society was as nationalistic, discipline-driven, and devoid of any concept of human rights as the modern western classroom, we'd have fascism worldwide.

The school-to-prison pipeline puts it too gently. For many, school already is the prison.

Aaron Hall

For some kids, school is nothing more than educational day-care.

user315433

Too bad we don't have a Social Conventions SE, we could debate the hats-indoors thing there.

user315433

College students can and do wear them wherever.

Anonymous

3:02 AM

throws an egg at the school.

user315433

In my class, I have a grad student whom I have never seen without his Red Sox hat.

user315433

Not sure if it's implanted.

Shog9

I take my hat off as a show of respect for the family when I'm standing by a grave listening to the eulogy. Otherwise...

user315433

You also take it off when entering the Tavern...

Shog9

Just 'cause y'all can't see hats yet...

Anonymous

3:06 AM

:D

JamesENL

Personally, I both miss and do not miss high school

I miss uni more

I miss the large amounts of free time, but I don't miss the lack of money

Anonymous

They were both full of crap, but university had more good bits.

Aaron Hall

@zaq he takes his head off - completely different

2

Shog9

I skipped university and just spent the time drinking with the students. Still tons of bullshit, but at least there was beer to wash it down.

Aaron Hall

From my point of view, high school was an indignity. I was furious with my guidance counselors when I found, a month into 11th grade, that I could have been at the university instead.

Anonymous

3:10 AM

Indignity is a good word.

Aaron Hall

I did my best to recruit others to join me for 12th grade, but apparently I'm a bad salesman - "hey stupid, why do you want to stay here any longer than you have to" doesn't work as a sales pitch.

But there were graduates from my HS that I was able to hang out with at the university - so I did.

user202362

I don't miss high school that much - never had too many friends. Partially because my personality probably, partially because I had to change schools because my dad's work. I literally split my high school years in 3 different countries.

user202362

Uni was both the best years and the most depressing years

Aaron Hall

Highs and lows. Good times.

user202362

uni was awesome - for the first 2 years, there was this bottom 30% knock out (failing rate), when you were doing more courses than everyone else in the year and the failing rate was that high, you kind of bring stress on to yourself

user202362

3:24 AM

and prolonged stress has a very high chance of translating into depression

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user202362

I didn't care if I didn't have much in my bank account back in uni days

Aaron Hall

As long as you didn't leave with a ton of debt.

user202362

I think once I had about 37k student debt (2 degrees, 1 postgrad).

Aaron Hall

bummer, but you did better than some.

user202362

3:29 AM

that was 10 years ago though, probably translates to 70k nowadays

Aaron Hall

nah, inflation's not that bad.

user315433

That teacher's spreadsheet was the first time I used pivot. Some people say that questions about typing formulas into Google Sheets don't belong on SO... but those formulas include SQL-like query language and a regex library (re2)...

Jason C

People that say that don't understand.

You can only get so far in life without being a Google Sheets / Excel ninja before you hit a wall.

user315433

... and start posting your spreadsheets full of sensitive information for everyone to see

Jason C

Lol

"Excuse me, Ms. Land? Ms. Promise Land?" => "Uh yeah who the hell are you?" => "I found your name in a high school disciplinary record that I saw in a chat room and did some Googling, because I had to meet you. That's cool, right?"

hichris123

3:41 AM

@zaq Who needs this FERPA thing.

Jason C

Jason C, Stalking, 10 days OSS.

user315433

In my university days, instead of getting final grades on Blackboard we'd get them on a bulletin board: a list of names & grades pinned on it. I never had a problem with that.

Aaron Hall

They only did that with ID numbers when I started.

user315433

And the ID numbers were SSN back in the days...

user202362

One of my worst times was back in the 2nd year of uni. Commerce/business students had to do Account, economics, economatrix and one elective. (4 in total) E.E. students had to do digital system, analog, one computer science subject, maths, physics. (5 in total) B.E. & B.Com students had to do all the subjects E.E. students had to do plus economics (6 in total).

user202362

3:46 AM

I think I did all the subjects E.E. students had to do, plus economics AND economatrix (7 in total) and I was only one in the year who did that. But that year was also when I first got my own (old and unreliable) car. I got into 3 accidents (2 of which were my fault), the car had to be taken into a garage a couple of times because it's old and unreliable and broken down on road.

user202362

Worse thing was that one of my close friends called me before my last exam and told me that she swallowed too many sleeping pills the night before!! She didn't die because of it ...

Jason C

There's a lot going on in that story.

Also, wow, I forgot Blackboard existed.

bjb568

@zaq These-a-days at my university the grades are first posted in BB but on an assignment-by-assignment basis so as to minimize any potential for having a clue of how well you're doing, then magically the final grades appear in some new EMS thing.

Literally the only thing to do in the couple week window before knowing for the first time your grade is to pray everyone else is stupider than you and the prof added a good curve.

user315433

Hm. Maybe your professor hasn't discovered that Blackboard has calculated columns, with weights by categories, dropping N lowest (or highest!) grades, etc. Set them up once, and students never ask "what's my current grade in the class".

bjb568

In that respect, I like high school better.

@zaq But it's every class. BB grades are just seen as a convinience so that you can see assignment grades before they get passed back.

user315433

3:52 AM

Which they are. But even more of a convenience when calculated things are also done.

user315433

Then again, I might be in the minority of those who use calculated columns.

bjb568

None of my classes have transparent grading criteria. There's hand-waving in the syllabus and a rigid system that would make half the class fail, then you just hope for curving.

Jason C

At least all your classes use bb. When we were doing it the company was only a couple years old and the product was sort of hacky. Only the more ... forward-thinking professors were using it.

bjb568

I guess.

Night!

Jason C

Yeah but it was a pain having like 6 completely different grade tracking systems for each of your classes.

Later

user202362

3:55 AM

I like 30% - 50% failing rate in classes, they are truly awesome

user202362

unlike high school

user315433

What, simply writing "To: SHOG" wasn't enough information?

user202362

looks like SH06!

user202362

but why are you giving out phone number and address again

user202362

4:11 AM

are you trying to set up a trap and lure some kind of prey in?

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4:48 AM

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user315433

> we haven't had large enough blocks of time to hold elections, which has resulted in a bit of backlog in elections. Yours will be scheduled either late January or early February. meta.quant.stackexchange.com/q/1512

user315433

Looks like we're in for a full month+ of elections. Exciting!

tchrist

5:24 AM

@zaq Folks are pretty tuckered out from Nov 8th.

user202362

user315433

What is the .xyz TLD for? I see it used by possibly-serious people, but to me it looks like a lazy faceless default, like picking a username by walking on keyboard.

user315433

Not a favorable impression, I mean.

user315433

The latest example: codingkids.xyz

user202362

abc.xyz is taken, that probably explains why

user315433

5:41 AM

The spamminess of their Twitter twitter.com/codingkidstx doesn't help.

Shog9

> .XYZ is now one of the first new domains to receive MIIT accreditation!

Cannot find any particular purpose, apart from "it's not .com"

user202362

Alphabet Inc.

Alphabet Inc. is an American multinational conglomerate founded on October 2, 2015, by the two founders of Google, Larry Page and Sergey Brin, with Page serving as CEO and Brin as President. It is the parent company of Google and several other companies previously owned by them. The company is based in Mountain View, California, at Googleplex. The reorganization of Google into Alphabet was completed on October 2, 2015. Alphabet's portfolio encompasses several industries, including technology, life sciences, investment capital, and research. Some of its subsidiaries include Google, Calico, G...

user202362

website: abc.xyz

user315433

> .xyz is a bold, fresh choice for users who crave creativity and versatility in a domain name. It’s short and memorable without the limitations of a label or language barrier – so you can focus on connecting with your audience anywhere in the world.

Andy

I want my last name .com, but someone has been squatting it for the past 10 years and has managed to put a phpinfo() up.

shakes fist at random person with the same last name

user202362

5:50 AM

I owned the domain name telkitty.com for nearly 10 years before it got stolen by sys admin :/

user202362

also 3 letter appendix lacks imagination

user202362

might as well have .123

user315433

Get Andy.name instead

user315433

A colleague of mine uses lastname.org for himself and family members. A family is a noncommercial organization, so to speak...

user202362

telkitty.😄

user202362

5:56 AM

telkitty.Ѡ

Andy

@zaq Someone already has that too. Interestingly, whois on .names don't seem to return nearly as much information

user202362

One of the worst parts of humanity is that people are not keen to acknowledge your talent, but never hesitate to steal your ideas

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6:21 AM

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6:32 AM

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user315433

6:54 AM

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/41115147/6655984

user315433

7:05 AM

There's also an NAA from 2012 there... sigh

user202362

7:26 AM

Derpy

9:00 AM

morning

so sleepy

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10:30 AM

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Shadow Wizard

12:00 PM

@Andy this?

$58,000.00 and it's yours. ;)

Bart

A bargain

Shadow Wizard

> This account is temporarily suspended for asking programming questions on meta. The suspension period ends in 7 days.

makes me happy every time I see it. :P

Derpy

Sudden realization. Shog isn't a medusa head from Castlevania like I always believed.

he must be Chuck D. Head from Deacap Attack.

Shadow Wizard

?

This? ^ @Derpy

Derpy

do you know anyone else that attacks people by launching his head at them?

Shadow Wizard

12:13 PM

@Derpy head? No. I can think of glasses, or petals... but not head.

Derpy

I don't know. I will have to check this.

while this seems more fitting, I liked the medusa heads more.

Derpy

12:26 PM

Anyway, time to return to my hunt for the "ghost virus that probably don't even exist because Microsoft is very lame"

Shadow Wizard

12:42 PM

@Derpy ghost? virus?

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12:55 PM

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user202362

1:09 PM

Sir David Attenborough is amazing

Derpy

1:22 PM

@ShadowWizard Start from here..

Short version: A friend has received a "suspicious activity" report on a microsoft account he just created. About 5 minutes after the creation, Microsoft recorded an access from an IP in the USA. Since this don't seem a brute force attack - 5 minutes to bruteforce a 18 char long password seems a little odd for an alphanumeric password that also had special characters...

we are still hunting some keylogger that may even not exist.

And the funny part? the origination IP for this attack is a Microsoft owned one. So, either some part of Microsoft own infrastructure access profile data in a way that triggers an alert, or they have someone impersonating their own IPs and aren't even able to detect that.

Obviously, I am more interested in understanding if we should be worried someone was able to obtain the password because some infections or Microsoft is just incapable of producing accurate reports.

Derpy

1:46 PM

@ShadowWizard by the way, still open to suggestions.

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Jason C

2:22 PM

@Telkitty holy crap

user202362

I know, right? David Attenborough's nature documentaries are amazing. I have been a fan for 20 years :p

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2:55 PM

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user315433

3:46 PM

> it’s mind-boggling to watch two or three people editing the same code at the same time, all while the live app changes in front of your eyes. blog.trello.com/anil-dash-where-tech-is-heading-next

user315433

A new reality TV idea.

user315433

Joel's interview for twit.tv

Shadow Wizard

4:22 PM

@Derpy suggestions for what... ?

Anyway, nasty thing with those alerts.... but no surprise. D:

Derpy

4:41 PM

@ShadowWizard things to check. The pc seems clean, so I don't get how the password could be stolen. The only option that comes to mind is compromised router

As I said, I am pretty stumped. As now, I have simply plugged of the machine from any network. But I don't know if he has a serious problem or if Microsoft is to blame

user315433

5:17 PM

I, kindly, disagree. It's a very broad and deep topic that also includes serious safety concerns. It deserves to have its own SE not muddied with endless posts that are not related other they pertain to small arms. I don't know any reloaders that would use an SE where reloading is lumped in with other topics - we'd stick to the mature, dedicated forums we already have if that's the case. — user1801810 21 hours ago

user315433

If you're interested, the comment debate is a reenactment of xkcd.com/1095

user315433

6:16 PM

And I got SOCVR into a cleanup effort to dismiss over 900 spam requests in the JS documentation. — Stephen Leppik 23 mins ago

user315433

Hm. When a script dismisses requests and destroys users, having someone go through requests doing the first thing only... doesn't look that smart.

Shog9

Yeah, I had to go back through 'em and destroy the users. But, it got the pile down a little faster while I was busy on a ladder tacking up lights, so...

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bjb568

6:51 PM

2

Q: Estimation of regression coefficient problem(hint)

I know, that the variance of OLS $\beta = \sigma^2 (X^TX)^{-1}$. Then I did calculations of $ (X^TX)^{-1}$ and I need the inverse in order to complete my proof. But the inverse of 3*3 matrix is a pain(especially in general case). So I need a hint.Is there another way to prove the statement abo...

Yay, HNQ homework problem that I've done myself.

Evan Carroll

HALLO TYRANTS AND BOOT LICKERS.

Anyone realize SE's filters are down?

stackexchange.com/filters

user315433

Yes, this is a useful calculation. But it looks like homework problems don't even have to be typed to get into HNQ.

Shog9

7:15 PM

@EvanCarroll works for me

Evan Carroll

Still not for me.

stackexchange.com/error?aspxerrorpath=/filters/265902/postgis

Shog9

well, a link to the error page will definitely render an error

stackexchange.com/filters/265902/postgis

that works though

Evan Carroll

Just redirects me back to the error pages

Shog9

You're on a different webserver, so... Perhaps that one is ill

Evan Carroll

So /filters returns this =========

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Cache-Control: private
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Location: /filters/265902/postgis
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
X-Request-Guid: f0a3be93-82bd-4a24-8ee5-fc9dc1607139
Content-Length: 140
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:19:30 GMT
Via: 1.1 varnish
Connection: keep-alive
X-Served-By: cache-dfw1847-DFW
X-Cache: MISS
X-Cache-Hits: 0
X-Timer: S1481656770.893031,VS0,VE49
X-DNS-Prefetch-Control: off

Which sents me to /filters/265902/postgis

which returns this .. ==========

HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Cache-Control: private
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Location: /error?aspxerrorpath=/filters/265902/postgis
X-Frame-Options: SAMEORIGIN
X-Request-Guid: c0d6308d-da0d-42cc-8107-d8e2c6604494
Content-Length: 161
Accept-Ranges: bytes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2016 19:19:31 GMT
Via: 1.1 varnish
Connection: keep-alive
X-Served-By: cache-dfw1847-DFW
X-Cache: MISS
X-Cache-Hits: 0
X-Timer: S1481656770.998469,VS0,VE70
X-DNS-Prefetch-Control: off

BTW, what kind of stupid server returns a 302 when it redirects you to an error page?

FOUND AN ERROR.

You kids need to read the HTTP spec.

rene

7:23 PM

I have no repro i.stack.imgur.com/Nkmtf.png so it must be something local to you or in the networkpath

Shog9

> System.ArgumentException: An item with the same key has already been added.

Evan Carroll

No idea what the problem is, I can reproduce it though.

Happens every time

I'm running on T-Mobile's network, but I doubt they're doing anything that out of the ordinary

@Shog9 does X-Request-Guid:714c40e6-50be-4204-8dee-140ac5dc2850 help out?

Shog9

yeah, I'm looking at the error

would appear that we're trying to perform a set operation with a datatype that doesn't support it

'course, that doesn't explain why only you are seeing the error

Frank

Is there a data dump for the chat network?

Shog9

nope

user315433

7:35 PM

Thankfully.

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy hmm... most likely "false positive" on Microsoft's side, i.e. the "access" wasn't by hacker or human, but rather some automated script.

But in the slim case it was really hacked... well, did you check the computer for malware/keyloggers/etc?

I believe some malwares are smart enough to detect creating new accounts, steal the credentials, and send them right away to the owner.

Evan Carroll

@Shog9 I think we all know why only I am seeing the error.

Shadow Wizard

But also think those are still rare enough, otherwise we would see much more reports from people. At least those who pay attention.

rene

@Frank only with nasty hacking: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/274106/…

Evan Carroll

It seems likely this is legacy Anti-Evan code from the Jeff-era.

I can't even post on meta.stackexchange to ask questions about it because I'm specially-cased in my ban.

Frank

7:40 PM

@rene I wanted to get a query finding how outspoken a user is on whatever site

Evan Carroll

bwahhahahah who is the user?

Frank

Looks like that's a little hard

@EvanCarroll anyone

Shog9

@EvanCarroll naturally unlucky

rene

@Frank yeah, that is not doable. It would mean you would have to scrape all chatrooms ...

Frank

A query would find information for whatever userid you would enter

@rene figures

Evan Carroll

7:42 PM

Shog9 just give me your username/password so I can see the filter results and get back to answering questions.

rene

@Frank Doing one takes a couple of hours due to rate-limiting

Evan Carroll

=)

user315433

A user's chat profile has "recent" tab, and it's paginated, covering all their chat messages ever.

Frank

@rene Yup, definitely not worth it

Shog9

There are other people getting the error

Shadow Wizard

7:43 PM

@Frank well, it's possible to perform sort of screen scraping over such URL and traverse the pages

rene

@EvanCarroll try this one: stackexchange.com/filters/266878/postgis

I copied it to my filter set

Evan Carroll

same error.

I can't even get to /filters

rene

Then it is confirmed: it is you

Shog9

Also someone erroring out trying to view my profile activity on SE.com, which ... seems pretty obscure.

Evan Carroll

Yea, this is likely special code that only applies to me.

rene

7:45 PM

@EvanCarroll Can you try incognito?

user315433

Aug 29 '14 at 0:53, by J. Musser

Any thoughts from you experts on the politeness of asking a site moderator why a flag was declined, but the flagged post deleted anyway?

user315433

^ @Frank's first message on chat.meta.se

Shog9

...and now scheduled routes erroring while trying to send emails

I think it's safe to say that something is not feeling well on SE.com

rene

it is spreading ...

that are the best bugs

the ones that wander ...

user315433

Yes, my script been getting HTTP errors recently from se.com / activity

Evan Carroll

7:46 PM

@Shog9 see, for all the measures you've taken to block my input. It's useful in the eyes of the community, and the eyes of the employees of SE.

Shadow Wizard

SE.com flu

user315433

I muted HTTP exceptions in it last night, possibly a bad move.

Evan Carroll

I think we've boiled it down to one of two scenarios at this point.

1) It's specific to me. Likely from the anti-Evan patch in the Jeff-era.

2) Russian hackers.

It's one of those two things.

Frank

@zaq only 2 years ago

rene

I'll go for the Russians

Evan Carroll

7:48 PM

I can see @Shog9's profile though. meta.stackexchange.com/users/811/shog9 If that's the other link that is causing this.

user315433

hides

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 maybe this is a leftover/side effect of this?

6

Q: Filtered Questions page is broken

The page for filters, http://stackexchange.com/filters shows Oops Panda at present.

bug status-completed stackexchange.com tag-filters

Shog9

no idea

Shadow Wizard

If Nick is available maybe worth poking him about it. :)

user315433

That one was a temporary glitch related to something they moved.

user315433

7:51 PM

Of course a bunch of things have been moving around with the https project.

Frank

Q: What's ugly and no one cares?

A: My answers' formatting on GL

bluefeet

we don't poke Nick...ever

Shadow Wizard

@bluefeet oh my... how come he has such immunity?

user315433

Not being around these sites in 2009, I wonder what this is about...

user315433

> Y'know how much work it is to avoid blatantly contradicting stuff I wrote publicly in '09? That's like... 90% of my job. -- Joshua Heyer at 11:16 AM - 13 Dec 2016

user315433

7:54 PM

Took a look at MSE posts from that year... meta.stackexchange.com/…

user315433

57

A: Should Sarcasm be Acceptable?

Oh yeah. Sarcasm is totally acceptable. Also good: insulting the OP's mother.

Shadow Wizard

Trying to get yourself answer banned too, @Evan? You're on the correct path.

user315433

^^ Is this the one that's hard to avoid contradicting?

Shog9

Oh, for sure. Keeps me up at night, that one.

Evan Carroll

8:50 PM

ONE BUG FIXED.

Shadow Wizard

I like this. We need to update our Android icon too, since Android is all in on icons wrapped in circles now (again). — Kasra Rahjerdi ♦ yesterday

Joke? No bug has been fixed for year, if not more. The app is dead, by all means.

user315433

He didn't say he was going to do it. It's just "we need". We need many things.

Shadow Wizard

Huh! Makes sense.

SmokeDetector

9:24 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Ошибка в Outlook 2016, как устранить? by aabsolyamov on ru.stackoverflow.com

Evan Carroll

9:38 PM

@Shog9 getting this when I hit the edit button

jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot read property 'opera' of undefined$.Autocompleter @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11(anonymous function) @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11each @ jquery.min.js:2each @ jquery.min.js:2autocomplete @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11(anonymous function) @ filters.js?v=ac50a406dffe:1dispatch @ jquery.min.js:3r.handle @ jquery.min.js:3

$.Autocompleter @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11
(anonymous function) @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11
each @ jquery.min.js:2
each @ jquery.min.js:2
autocomplete @ jquery.autocomplete.min.js?v=6e4147f0e2da:11
(anonymous function) @ filters.js?v=ac50a406dffe:1
dispatch @ jquery.min.js:3
r.handle @ jquery.min.js:3

Also can't add new tags.

I'm using Chromium on Ubuntu

Version 53.0.2785.143 Built on Ubuntu , running on Ubuntu 16.10 (64-bit)

My guess is your browser detection in your autocompleter is broke and thinks I'm using Opera.

That's some real old shit being used.

github.com/agarzola/jQueryAutocompletePlugin

Stack Exchange is using jQuery Autocomplete plugin 1.1

I think the fix for this bug is in version 1.2.3 (the newest one).

Merged miketaylr’s fork: account for retooled key events handling in newer Opera

whole plugin is deprecated though

Shog9

9:54 PM

you should totally stop using Opera

Evan Carroll

Are you trolling me? It's Chrome. It's blink/v8, not opera.

bjb568

not enough jquery @shog

Aaron Hall

I have no idea what's going on.

rene

10:12 PM

You are watching how Evan tries to use a feature of the site that was purposely broken for him. The game is to make him believe it is his fault.

Aaron Hall

well that's just plain mean.

On the upside, I got out of jury duty by talking about the constitutional and business law classes I took and how I'd been in several auto accidents and moved to NYC and got rid of my car because of it. (apparently an auto crash case.)

Aaron Hall

10:40 PM

Now, see, that's a life-hack. But it's too far out of scope for LH.

Evan Carroll

@AaronHall Are we supposed to to discourage you now from doing that in the future by reminding you how your fellow citizens needs you to be a responsible juror?

I've never understood how getting out of jury duty became a cool thing.

I will always judge people that frame it as such as being ignorant and apathetic.

Aaron Hall

I was filling my civic duty - I told them I would do my best to be fair and judge the case on the merits.

I knew they would want to know those specific facts, and the facts were given in response to their questions.

hichris123

@EvanCarroll Opera uses Blink/V8.

Evan Carroll

Yeah, well, when people come in and say "on the upside" that's not how it's pitched. That's on the downside. I'll always go to jury duty. And, when I go, I'll always stay quite so I'm chosen. And, then, if the law is one of property damage or a victimless crime I'll always render "not guilty."

People power. I don't see the upside to getting tossed out or forfeiting that.

Aaron Hall

I'm pretty sure it was a civil case.

Evan Carroll

10:49 PM

Good, so sit on it and render a verdict for the person or party with the least capital.

Jon Ericson

Huh. Maybe that's why California put the state government in Sacramento.

Aaron Hall

@EvanCarroll what if the poorer person was 100% at fault?

bjb568

Yeah, being poor doesn't mean you should be favored by juries.

Evan Carroll

Doesn't matter. I don't support the court system in any capacity that entails taking money from the less fortunate to give to to the more fortunate. That's the court systems primary function, and it's against my class interest to permit that.

Aaron Hall

> Do not deny justice to your poor people in their lawsuits. - Exodus 23:6

But it also says

> Do not follow the crowd in doing wrong. When you give testimony in a lawsuit, do not pervert justice by siding with the crowd, and do not show favoritism to a poor person in a lawsuit. - Exodus 23:2-3

bjb568

11:03 PM

@EvanCarroll Class warfare much?

Aaron Hall

@bjb568 I'm sure he'll grow out of it.

Evan Carroll

@bjb568 It's only warfare when we do it back. When they create a system to benefit themselves and they drag us through the system it's just normal procedure...

Aaron Hall

Evan, my wife grew up in a socialist state. She finds, even our poor, to be quite wealthy relative to the non-elites of socialist countries.

Evan Carroll

11:19 PM

Capitalism is everywhere. There is no "socialist state."

user202362

non-elites can be rich, rich or poor depends on luck more than skills

Evan Carroll

Our poor don't have houses, aren't guaranteed jobs, and get shoddy health care. I'm not sure what metric you're using to say they're better off or even what you're comparing them against. But, that's the joy of vague capitalist apologia.

user315433

> As they get older, privileged mods tend to remove less constructive comments. meta.stackexchange.com/q/288067

user315433

I didn't realize aging had this effect on moderators.

Aaron Hall

maybe that should be "fewer" too

Jason C

11:32 PM

I went to the butcher this morning to get some meat. I made the mistake of watching Happy Tree Friends before I left. It made it weird.

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