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no beta testers for Android?

also can't you just watch the packets and trace back the API method links?

I did that at work on my first day and found a security issue :D

Open beta testing: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/262151/…

@Quill well, I did that in the end...

the iOS one gets updated like once a week

Morning

Morning

12:39 AM

Morning

user315433

12:50 AM

@meatball One can post and flag from the public API 2.2 as well.

I'm an idiot -_-

user315433

I assume the app uses some undocumented capabilities around quota levels or authorization or "hot questions" network-wide feed.

both just open a WebView with an oauth thing

Mostly registration and that.

I wonder what the new project is.

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1:57 AM

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user315433

@SmokeDetector Now we get celebrity gossip along with spam.

user315433

> Schwarzenegger ... spent a good time with ... Joe Weider, the promoter who shot him in the United States.

user315433

This got dark toward the end.

> a good time

doesn't sound like a good time

(removed)

2:02 AM

@John Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

!!/coffee

@JamesENL brews coffee for @JamesENL

!!/lick

@JamesENL licks ice cream cone

(removed)

!!/edited

2:05 AM

@John Nothing to test

!!/blame

@JamesENL It's soup's fault.

I bloody knew it

How

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2:07 AM

@John How not?

 !!/trick Smokey

can't we not spam Smokey commands please?

even the unicorn needs his sleep

Sorry master

@Quill Bot = sleepy? Nah!

!!/got offensive stuff to report?

oops I almost upvoted spam...

2:13 AM

lol

@hichris123 That's why you read posts before upvoting them!

I was trying to click to the homepage and I hit the upvote arrow... :P

I hope you instantly unupvoted it!

I did, but...

arduino.stackexchange.com/questions/25362/… has an upvote???

(not from me)

From me. Just kidding

lol

Anyone other than hichris123 (and me) around?

I didn't

I reported it as spam

But Smokey already indicated that it's soup's fault so I don't know why it's still an issue :P

2:21 AM

@John nope

@hichris123 Perhaps a sockpuppet upvoted it?

@Quill are you sure?

chill out, man

!!/blame everyone in the world (exept me)

@John It's Quill's fault.

That would've been a perfect time for Smokey to blame the invoker

2:25 AM

hmm

@SmokeDetector are you sure Quill has the blame? Or do I for blaming everybody?

I wanna see if Smokey will dare to blame me

Its random

!!/blame someone???

@John It's John's fault.

spooky

How did I know

2:28 AM

see?

Ya

!!/blame SmokeDetector for blaming me

@John It's soup's fault.

21 mins ago, by Quill

can't we not spam Smokey commands please?

nope

I mean !!/nope

Anyway, if Smokey == tired {return true}; else {return false}

output: false

lol

@Quill Ok fine, I'll stop giving Smokey commands 'cause you're tired of it, unlike Smokey who wants more

much more

2:44 AM

Why do I feel like this is complete trolling... meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/326339/… (this is the person who posted the auto downvote script)

edited!!

Will @* do anything?

Why do I keep somehow thinking that the Arduino stack exchange is the Android stack exchange?

3:13 AM

@hichris123 I believe OP had some history on SO before.

user202362

3:27 AM

You and me got a whole lot of history (oh)
We could be the greatest team that the world has ever seen
You and me got a whole lot of history (oh)
So don't let it go, we can make some more, we can live forever

@meatball I seem to recall that too, but can't find any details.

Unlimited
Together we're unlimited
Together we'll be the greatest team
There's ever been

I give up

@Telkitty How do you do the code formatting in chat?

user202362

@JamesENL ctrl + k

user202362

I forgot how to quote (don't laugh)

hmm?

3:31 AM

Like this

Ahhh I see

@AaronHall I poked someone else. :P

:P

4:25 AM

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sd k

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body, bad keyword with email in body: Buy Real Passports,id cards,visas,drivers license,stamps etc by deedonpolo on webapps.stackexchange.com …

sd k

4:48 AM

dial it back, snowflakes you type for a living

Tweeted by wilto on June 16, 2016 at 9:37 PM

5:32 AM

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sd k

user202362

This account is temporarily suspended network-wide. The suspension period ends on Feb 28 '25 at 6:40.

user202362

only temporarily suspended for 8 years

@Telkitty Who is that?

user202362

5:47 AM

Dec 4 '15 at 1:30, by chmod 666 telkitty

Andreas Jung

Fighting idiots, fighting morons.

user202362

My stalkee

Wow

Oh right

That's pretty hardcore. Were they legit stalking you?

user202362

Umm ... I am stalking this idiot fighter not the other way around?

Ahhh right. What did he do to earn that ban?

user202362

sock puppets I think ... after banned the first time

5:51 AM

Ouch

6:03 AM

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sd k

6:18 AM

sd k

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sd k

7:06 AM

Sigh ... no @ShadowWizard, apparently not

in Shadow's Den, 42 secs ago, by Bart

It apparently was ...

Make up your mind @Bart! :P

@ShadowWizard that was not the first thing you said though :p

haha

/me busted

Well since you posted in the past, you can't escape the pings, now you're pingable there again for whole 7 days. :D

walking on thin line

@Bart anyway, why won't you Favorite the Tavern then just visit theFavorite rooms tab? Much safer this way.... ;)

7:13 AM

I did favourite it ... just habit.

huh! So you pay the price of this habit. :P

So far it has taken years off my life

Infinite Recursion

@Bart And dozens of pings

@Derpy ducks the duck

7:45 AM

3

8:30 AM

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[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in body: Good sequential logical reasoning by havokeen12 on movies.stackexchange.com …

9:31 AM

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11:03 AM

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@Bart pingable in Den?

My condolences @Bart

Dawny33

11:31 AM

A wonderful answer about "Is Stack Exchange still growing (2016)?"

quora.com/Is-Stack-Exchange-still-growing-2016/answer/…

> StackOverflow is the best and best known platform for CS knowledge sharing and collaboration, and is widely considered to be one of the most basic tools for any CS professional.

@meatball Not as good as DevDoodle, obviously.

user315433

"CS professional"...

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user315433

inb4 auto mechanics are "car science professionals"

11:38 AM

we should email these spammers the link to devdoodle

and see if they spam devdoodle

user202362

I need to write filters for my mail server - too many junk mails from hackers, scammers & spammers

user202362

... But ... Effort ...

user202362

This persistent spammer has kept on going for 5+ years

user202362

(S)he has spammed me on multiple email addresses too!

11:57 AM

inb4 @Telkitty realizes the spammer is her best friend.

Just found a spam in disguise in the Late Answers queue.

I flagged it, but noted that somebody had upvoted it.

Wondering if I should add a mod attention flag, so SE can investigate who upvoted it?

just fork Smokey's filters ;-)

@S.L.Barth Nah.

@TIPS Hm yes, I guess SE already looks at spams that are upvoted.

There's a good chance that the upvoter has misunderstood.

For varying definitions of misunderstanding

12:05 PM

Yeah, as in "Anything goes if it gives me a reviewer badge!!!" understanding :-S

!!/report stackoverflow.com/a/37880713/812149

@S.L.Barth Aaand we're done here. \o/

Great!

user315433

I wanted to leave a comment there with an indication that this is copy-pasta with spam link, but it got deleted by then...

!!/amiprivileged

@S.L.Barth Yes, you are a privileged user.

12:08 PM

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 1 min ago, by TIPS

She said it's disguised spam.

user315433

Will make a pretty tough audit in LQ queue.

Like a final boss or something

Another round of SpamAssassin's Creed :-)

Anyway, my work is done here. Thanks for your help, and see you all later!

\o

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[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected in answer: ngircd / xchat SSL issues by user3117885 on unix.stackexchange.com …

Magisch

12:39 PM

I opened a meta.SE discussion on a ... somewhat touchy subject

user202362

12:58 PM

@soup copy pasta spaghetti code?

1:55 PM

Upvoting spam?

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword with email in body, email in body: Price difference exists between Bitcoin website, you can use this idea to make big money! by Daniel Ck on bitcoin.stackexchange.com …

@John ?

That was a reply to messages way above your previous message

someone was upvoting spam

here is a gibberish answer

@John Yes, but that post is already removed.

user202362

I watched too many horror videos on youtube, nowadays when I open youtube, all recommendations are horrors :p

user202362

2:03 PM

after a while, horrors are not scary anymore ... they are hilarious >_<

user202362

like videos about dumb people

user202362

people in horror movies generally have IQs 20 points below the general population :p

@Telkitty *200

user202362

negative IQ? sweet ...

2

user202362

2:30 PM

Maybe horror movies are telling people a point: that all dumb people deserve to die in stupid ways ~_~

@Telkitty most of horror movies aren't that horror...

On the other hand, there were 2 (horror?) games that scared me for 3 days...

@meatball angry birds, right? I mean, why are you all angry? Why the aggression? Horrible game.

user202362

Currently I am watching one in which if you close the door ghosts wouldn't be able to come into your apartment

user202362

really? doors work on ghosts?

they work on vampires but only if you legally own the house.

is ghosts really a stretch?

user202362

2:42 PM

same with ghosts in elevator thing - I mean, ghosts can't get through walls?

user202362

I mean ... ghosts are probably similar to light: energy without mass, that is to say, if ghosts indeed exist

>
When and where is the next MSE Town Hall?

We'll be meeting in the Tavern for an hour on Wednesday, June 22nd, at 1pm EDT/17:00 UTC. Here's a handy tool for figuring out what time that is for you, wherever you're based.

Can I celebrate my unsuspension?

user202362

are you unbanned recently?

3:22 PM

no

But I'm unbanned on the 22nd

3:56 PM

I think I've known y'all for a year now

bjb568 is not a pebble

Ah, you too, soon, will see the insignificance of a mere year's time in the Tavern. After a few more comings of the duck, you'll adjust to the natural rhythm and continuation of Tavern life.

And my flagging rates will zoom back to rocket speeds

xkcdBot

Today's xkcd comic (Code Quality 2):

It's like you tried to define a formal grammar based on fragments of a raw database dump from the QuickBooks file of a company that's about to collapse in an accounting scandal.

wow

A: Stackoverflow for enterprise

Hmm, wonder if that applies to any certain project in here... certainly not DevDoodle...

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Andy

4:14 PM

I wonder what that costs

If you have to ask... :P

too much to process?

I see a @ProgramFOX is around. :)

Andy

I work for a large company...I wonder who I'd have to talk to around here to get to the "well, let's see how much it costs" stage of the decision making process

ProgramFOX

Stalker! :P

4:16 PM

@ProgramFOX ??

@ProgramFOX Well, when you edit a meta post that I just linked in here... :P

ProgramFOX

:P

nicael

@Sha Btw, do you still keep the negative number in the reputation tab?

@ArtOfCode Unfortunately no. I don't believe there is fixed pricing available. Pricing depends on the requirements and hosting arrangements needed by the customer. — Robert Cartaino ♦ 36 mins ago

Andy

Makes sense.

4:23 PM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because it's a duplicate of stackoverflow.com/questions/35446160/…. — Dan Bracuk May 6 at 13:30

ruh?

That's... weird.

Want to attempt to reopen & reclose as a dupe?

I flagged for mod attention already.

but we can try.

someone also edited the answer into the question.

it's like bizarro-SO

Ah, fast mod flag handling. :)

@nicael no :(

nicael

Have you clicked it recently or just earned much rep since?

4:37 PM

@Andy more than you can afford... ;-)

@nicael earned much rep. Think it was about 30k loss

@Unix so will it mean you will be here less? :(

5:00 PM

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5:45 PM

Apple-sans-adjectives – A font that redacts Apple-esque superlatives from text http://appleadjectiv.es/

Tweeted by newsycombinator on June 17, 2016 at 11:02 AM

@xkcdBot often I'm tempted to say things like that on Code Review... They usually make for good scoring answers... twitter.com/jamal_almouslli/status/699471774258311168

discussion support close-reasons stackexchange stackoverflow

6:09 PM

-1

Q: Quit bein' so blockin'

I think Stack Exchange is too strict on closing and deleting questions. Perfectly feasible questions are marked as low-quality, too broad, or "unclear what you're asking." Are we really going too far with this? I decided to test it out and see if those so-called "bad" questions are actually unsa...

Our friend is at it again

> Why doesn't Stack Exchange allow questions that most other Q&A and forum sites would allow? I know Stack Exchange is not a forum

Answered your own question there, it seems.

I'd like to quickly remind everyone: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/89?m=4985987#4985987

6:35 PM

Australia has happy hour in the middle of exams? Sounds about right.

Infinite Recursion

@hichris123 Interesting. I will tell my employer to buy this.

@Quill I didn't know I had an exam, thanks

@Shog9 I actually had an exam in a pub the other day

@Shog9 Australia has entrance exams for their happy hours.

@rene no worries, always looking out for the smallflower

6:59 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Now you've intrigued me...

inb4 ExpertsExchange buys SO for Enterprise to replace their existing engine

I assume it comes with data, so we can also login there ...

8:13 PM

crickets

Shouldn't you be studying?

8:35 PM

yesterday, by Quill

I had planned to do work this evening, but instead I spent two hours building houses of cards...

My time management skills are.... not the great

@Quill Maybe you should be working on those then. :P

I wonder whether there's a site to ask about the architecture of card houses

Not the card houses, your time management skills. >.<

8:56 PM

A colleague of mine showed up early in the morning for the time management training. (Un)fortunately it was scheduled for the evening.

His manager said the training was money well spend...

Time management training? That sounds oxymoronic.

Apparently sumo wrestlers can put job listings on SO Careers:

heh

I need to go find that all caps job listing I saw a couple days back...

> ETS, Engineer 2

Another one of these... where's the Engineer 3 series?

> WEB DEVELOPER & SYSTEMS ADMINISTRATOR

Aha.

There should be a "Very Low Quality Job Listing" flag on Careers/Jobs...

@hichris123 that was pre Y2K, when consultancy was booming and we really didn't know where to spend the money on ...

9:11 PM

> Upcoming event June 23rd, 2016, Burlington, Vermont

This... doesn't look like a job title?

I wish Careers had more manual review of listings. Some of these are horrid.

If you show up you get 1000 dollar

@rene There's always raises...

@hichris123 so you can meet and greet the competition in a friendly, casual dining setting

So you can have a good laugh at them?

Don't you wish...

9:16 PM

all you got to do is go around the venue whispering "I hear they use TFS" and you'll be the only candidate left

> PRINCIPAL ENGINEER - BACKEND

Even Autodesk loves all caps.

@Quill Change that to CVS... shudder

Change that to Google Drive

Dropbox?

Windows?

Eww I count a 7 on the joel test for where I work

9:20 PM

> Senior Developer / Hacker / Java Developer / Senior Engineer

That's... a mouthful.

> You may be the ideal candidate for our team if:

You have a positive and optimistic personality. Setbacks motivate you to work harder.
You like to work with a wide array of technology rather than specialize in one particular area.
You like to work without a map or guide. You’d prefer to be thrown in the deep end and solve complex problems for yourself rather than have your hand held.
You adapt to change well, and aren’t particularly phased by course changes.
You understand and enjoy coding, but also know or have an interest in learning the importance of Security.

@hichris123 it is probably the HR departement: Our job ad need to stand out, let's do its title in ALL CAPS. That is great idea! Nobody does that ....

tl;dr: "We're not going to help you, you're going to be yelled at a lot, and the requirements change daily"

@rene Maybe we need an all caps check for Careers...

@hichris123 learning about the importance of security, at least they have their priorities right ... let's hope it doesn't stay at learning alone

And they Capitalized it! That must mean it's Important, right?

> Direction: Our CEO is a developer, and largely to blame for any historical legacy issues. He’s actually pretty good (and approving this copy).

> Front End: Angular.JS + TCL (just joking… but you’re welcome to make an impassioned defence of the betamax of the software world).

9:25 PM

> Picture yourself working in the future planned Google campus on some of their most innovative applications for work!

The... future planned Google campus?

Also note this isn't Google advertising the job: Senior C++ Software Developer at Google

They are in a garage now

Good to know, good to know.

> Hi Quill
Thanks for letting us know. We’ve removed the listing from Stack Overflow, since it wasn’t for a job, but an event.
Best regards
Talal

that was fast

Yay. I flagged it, but it was really slow and then told me the listing was already flagged.

And then it told me my flag was successfully submitted.

> Take part in our residential sustainable energy revolution

that's intense. Imagine the residential sustainable energy anarchy that'll ensue

@haneycodes @SwiftOnSecurity MY NAME IS NICK CRAVER AND I LOVE RECRUITER SPAM!!!

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on June 17, 2016 at 9:31 PM in reply to haneycodes

10:03 PM

I guess downvoting is the best you can do for a question that takes one second to find on Google: How to replace the '\\' in a directory with '/'?

Hilariously, no SO questions to dupe to. I guess it's just too easy.

So what are we going to be happy about in our happy hour?

Not having @Quill around? ;)

Happy happy joy joy!

I was reviewing my Python __slots__ canonical answer and discovered it was incomplete today. Now it's better than ever.

But even before it was still far superior to the accepted answer. sniff :P

crickets

Ok, gotta run before I get in trouble for working too late.

10:40 PM

I don't think the Tavern can be defined as work. :)

@hichris123 eager to get rid of me? ;)

Never. :P

10:53 PM

WHISKY TIME

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@Shog9 It's not 7 yet!

@hichris123 it's five. Time for exams and drinking.

You people on Mountain time...

11:15 PM

I'm new to this, but what is the topic of our happy our?

@John Happiness

What kind?

And @Shog's whisky

@John There is no topic.

The next event, however

The next event, however ...

is about ...

What?

Is it the town hall?

Yes

I love how you care about correct typography.

11:21 PM

And what's so special about @Shog's whiskey? (sorry shog9)

@John That information is classified.

classified???!!!!

!!!!???

What about !!!!???

?!?!?!

@John Punctuation marks without context indicate face expression. In this case, you excited my electrons with your punctuation marks.

11:25 PM

Your electrons

@John I take that as an insult

Sorry

!!/blame