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Quill

12:16 AM

congrats

Discussion between Fabrice Pautot and…

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Looks like this room's turning a bit volatile

It seems MO is pretty dead for a chat point of view too

user315433

Looks like a long long monologue. Nate is level-headed, I'd vote for him as a mod any time.

Quill

level-headed enough to leave the conversation

user315433

MO has one active room, "homotopy theory". Not a general room, a few chat-inclined people happen to share interest in this topic. Not much else.

Quill

barely active. their main room is nearly frozen too

user315433

82.2k messages is not too shabby

user315433

12:22 AM

And yes, the main room tends to freeze because there is HT.

bjb568

> I'm rather a serious boy!

Right…

user315433

What's the most recent employee post on SSL progress?

user315433

Never mind, grabbed a few old ones.

bjb568

12:43 AM

@Meta status-6-8-more-years

user202362

let's find out whether spammers are really brainless ... maybe they will find a way to send more spams or maybe the 2 reps huddle is too much for them ... assume it's still the 2 reps huddle to ask questions?

Quill

what gives you 1 rep anyway (without getting more rep and then downvoting or doing another action to reduce it)

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1:02 AM

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hichris123

1:22 AM

@Quill Creating a new account...

Quill

like if you already have 1 rep and an account

hichris123

I don't think I understand what you're asking then...

JamesENL

@tchrist you're famous! I never realised before

Quill

@hichris123 if you have 1 rep and an account, how do you get another 1 rep to get to 2 rep total

hichris123

@Quill You don't. :P

In other news: the CV queue is back up to 10k after being below 10k since (at least) April 2nd.

user202362

1:34 AM

@JamesENL he co-wrote a few perl books and had to battle many bears outside his fence at home, how could you not know that he's well known in the perl community and not for fighting the bears?

JamesENL

@Telkitty Honestly, I knew the bear part, I didn't know the perl part

bjb568

@hichris123 The actual CV queue is like 30 times larger.

Quill

did he cowrite the perl books with the bears?

hichris123

@bjb568 No, that is the "actual" queue since votes & flags all age away.

@Quill I think with camels... :P

bjb568

@hichris123 If they didn't age away, it'd be the real real queue.

user202362

1:36 AM

@Quill he probably co-write the perl books while trying to outsmart the bears, yes

user315433

@hichris123 Votes & flags aged away earlier, too; the size of the queue is controlled by review tasks aging away.

hichris123

@Meta Prior to the un-fuzzying change, flags didn't age away. I was trying to say that you really can't reconstruct an "actual" queue nowadays (with internal data maybe, but almost all questions with close votes/flags in SEDE would be in the queue).

81

Q: Age close votes after 14 days, regardless of views, allowing recasting

I've been putting this off for a long time... Close vote aging - the deactivation of votes that haven't resulted in a question being closed - is a critical part of the vote-to-close system, but has something of a troubled history: all too often, it has been more annoying than useful, capricious...

user315433

Right, flag aging is a relatively new thing.

user315433

Most questions in CVR really aren't worth looking at; so it's just as well that they don't get reviewed.

user315433

1:52 AM

> I think that a significant number of users who would otherwise not flag the question, may decide to flag it. meta.stackoverflow.com/q/321329

user315433

This kind of made me angry. "It's too much trouble for me to click three times, but I'm very happy to slap 5+ other users in the face with this question".

user202362

senior flag

bwDraco

2:07 AM

dv-pls very low quality superuser.com/questions/562094/…

Took me several tries to figure it out and get Zephyr to respond in Low Quality Posts HQ. It's [tag:dv-pls].

We really need documentation for Zephyr.

Caught a scraper: www.ceus-now.com/after-certain-disk-operations-such-as-enumerating-disks-hdd-lig‌ht-may-start-flashing-every-second-and-storage-subsystem-hangs-after-sleep-and-re‌sume/

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Q: After certain disk operations such as enumerating disks, HDD light may start flashing every second and storage subsystem hangs after sleep and resume

I'm dealing with some weird problem that's been making my computer crash. On occasion (but not always), when I perform certain disk operations (something to do with enumerating disks, as this happens when I open Disk Management), the application hangs and my laptop's disk busy light starts flas...

hard-drive windows-8.1 freeze sleep intel-rst

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Quill

2:26 AM

I've come up with a fun game, google stack overflow question titles and when you find a unique scraper, you take a drink

I just got two with one search term

hichris123

Depends upon your definition of "fun"...

bwDraco

Two more scrapers reported.

serverquestions.com/questions/hfpo/after-certain-disk-operations-such-as-enumera‌ting-disks-hdd-light-may-start-fla

Quill

> mzan.com/article/36228669-run-user-script-on-chrome-settings-and-similar-urls.sh‌tml

oh that's a handsome fellow there

bwDraco

Just doing the right thing.

Quill

> voidasks.com/terminal_command_slower_in_verbose_mode_for_huge_files

three for three

five for five

tchrist

2:48 AM

@JamesENL Just bears and chicken round here; your choice.

Andy

@bwDraco Should be either dv-pls or delv-pls

Andrew T.

sd f

user315433

Nobody here but us bears and chickens

user202362

3:05 AM

@tchrist Sometimes I think you got the real wildlife there - bears, deer, wolves. Unlike here. Look at what we have got: bandicoot - which is like a big rat with pouch, possums - which is like bigger and fatter version of the squirrels ... with pouch. And brush turkeys - yep, large version of chickens.

tchrist

@Telkitty A cassowary can kill you.

But I don't think those are the bears and chickens James is looking for.

See the pouchette?

user202362

@tchrist there s no cassowary near where I live

Quill

3:24 AM

wow that's cool

Quill

3:52 AM

Funny how one of them starts with "up vote 0 down vote favorite", showing they clearly copy/pasted from their own question and accidentally grabbed the voting arrows too. — jtbandes 23 hours ago

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Q: How did this user bypass the question rate limit?

This user was able to ask two dupli-cate questions (now deleted, there was a triplicate 2 hours earlier) within 10 minutes of each other. The limit seems to be Users < 125 rep, 20 minutes (90 minutes on Stack Overflow) How did they bypass this limit?

support rate-limiting

hichris123

I wonder how many spam bots will break tonight because of the rep limit on mSE.

Andrew T.

MSE's privilege page is always weird. Create post at 1 (currently 2) rep, participate at 5 rep.

Certainly those who asked off-topic questions couldn't participate in meta

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bwDraco

4:34 AM

up vote 0 down vote favorite

rotfl

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bwDraco

sd 2trueu-

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bwDraco

@SmokeDetector trueu-

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4:58 AM

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5:51 AM

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6:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How can I use SoundCloud as a source of podcasts by Jason S on webapps.stackexchange.com …

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6:24 AM

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SmokeDetector

6:47 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Pattern-matching website in answer: How can I use SoundCloud as a source of podcasts by Jason S on webapps.stackexchange.com …

bwDraco

sd why

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@bwDraco [:4841177] Body - Position 76-88: seotools.net

Martin

Why is sometimes MathOverflow logo displayed when a post is shared on FB and sometimes not? Do other sites have the same problem?

For example I see the site logo in preview of this post: facebook.com/noah.schweber/posts/10153794744159807

But not in the preview of this post: facebook.com/stackexchange/posts/753201551388480

As an aside: In case I wanted to post this as a question (maybe after finding some more examples and checking how is it with other SE sites), I guess it would be more appropriate for meta.SE than for facebook.SE, right?

bwDraco

sd why

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[:4841199] Title - Position 27-35: garcinia
Body - Position 62-70: garcinia
Body - Position 383-394: Weight Loss
Title - Position 27-47: garciniaeliteslim.co
Body - Position 62-82: garciniaeliteslim.co
Post - Link at end: http://www.thegarciniaeliteslim.com/slimax-garcinia/</a>

Bart

7:02 AM

Smokey auto updates now when a post is removed?

Martin

It seems that SO post shared on FB have the same problem: facebook.com/blog.gaurav/posts/1873169769573802 and facebook.com/groups/375295392555434/permalink/668054173279553

user202362

Oo ... do I need to see all the details of a spam post?

Martin

Can somebody check that it is not just me? (Just check whether you see the SE picture in those posts.

Bart

@Telkitty yes, yes you do. Take it all in. Let the spam flow through you

@Martin same problem

Martin

7:17 AM

Ok, at least I know it is not just on my computer. Thanks!

Perhaps it can have something to do with changes in favicon urls.

user202362

spams don't affect a low rep user like me much, only high rep users like you can see a deleted spam

Bart

7:30 AM

@Telkitty if you want we can bundle them into a book and mail it to you

user202362

Bart

:D

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rene

7:52 AM

@Bart yes, if the post is deleted within 2 minutes ... so hurry up ...

Bart

I am going as fast as my old man bones will let me

rene

Hiding behind your age is a bit awkward with me around ...

user202362

s/me/us/

rene

I didn't want to offend all of you

user202362

and my grandpa is still alive, so ...

rene

8:00 AM

:D

Bart

@rene I'm sorry gramps

user202362

My dad's biological parents are still alive, my mum's passed away at the age of 99 & 101. My ambition is to become the oldest troll on guinness record one day ...

user202362

with that said, I could get hit by a bus tomorrow, not there are many buses around where I live ...

rene

8:20 AM

In the SOCVR we stumbled across this answer ... it took awhile to sink in but I call it a LifeHack ...

Quill

So I buy a 400 quid iOS device just to serve as a mouse pad, because I obviously need my phone when I'm out and about. Sounds like the cheapest and easiest solution around here. — Adriaan 10 mins ago

Bart

@rene ... how do you even think as a developer "you know what I'll write..."

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8:36 AM

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Quill

8:51 AM

in The 2nd Monitor on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 27 secs ago, by Mast

@Quill Stupid comment on a stupid answer on a stupid question.

Sam

9:32 AM

lurking

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SmokeDetector

9:57 AM

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rene

@Quill you are making new friends?

Quill

new friends? I've been there longer than I've been here ;)

rene

Oh, we are second-class :(

Quill

I'll just make 14000 messages right now and then you guys can be first class

rene

10:20 AM

Thanks, apprecia .... wait ...

Derpy

@rene Friendship is Magic

hichris123

10:42 AM

@Bart Yes, it deletes the message to reduce clutter.

Magisch

11:11 AM

@Derpy Are you a MLP bot

Derpy

@Magisch Hi, nice to meet you, my name is Muffin but you can call me Derpy...

DroidDev

@Derpy wait.....I didn't star that message, it was my mouse, it moved on itself. I swear :/

Quill

you should write a bot that has like a 10% chance of replying Friendship is magic to any message that says thanks

DroidDev

LMAO

Derpy

@DroidDev I told you, we can wait, your destiny is already planned

DroidDev

11:17 AM

@Derpy didn't we go down that road once, where I watched first episode of first season of MLP and then went back to watching naruto and game of thrones? :P

Derpy

DroidDev

('._.)

Magisch

I watched the first episode due to peer pressure and it annoyed me

DroidDev

@Magisch I know the feel bro. For me, peer pressure = Derpy

Derpy

DroidDev

11:27 AM

Herd?

user315433

@Martin It's possible that some metadata on the SE pages changed since 2014, when the second post was captured. Facebook grabs some data from a shared page to generate its timeline card, it does not keep updating the card. This may be the reason. If the icon is missing from some recently shared pages, that would be something to look at.

user315433

Hm, a look at facebook.com/stackexchange/?fref=nf does not confirm my theory.

Derpy

@DroidDev so you didn't do your homework? It was in Chapter 1 - Equestria, An introduction to Harmony.

Martin

@Meta When I was trying to share a post today, I had the same problem.

user202362

meta ... meat ... spam - coincidence? I think not!

user202362

11:39 AM

also spam is originated from the U.S. according to this

DroidDev

@Derpy I didn't do my homework. That's the whole point :P

user202362

so spam is really just canned ~~meta~~ meat

Martin

@meta I was able to find post from April (working) and March (not working): facebook.com/ethereumproject/posts/567175316797499 and facebook.com/ethereumproject/posts/551885811659783

Universal Indicators

@Derpy oh no its the borg ponies

Sd k

Derpy

11:56 AM

@DroidDev then I suppose that I will have to provide you a short version....

yep.... short....

Magisch

12:08 PM

@Derpy Isnt derpy that one pony that supposedly has brain damage?

Infinite Recursion

Nice name @Meta

Quill

I actually answered some SO questions today

I did 3 in like 20 minutes

Derpy

@Magisch yep, that is so realistic given the supposed show age market.... are you sure you didn't watch a "parody" version instead?

Martin

@Meta Maybe it is possible that it has something to do with changes I have mentioned in this post. But it is strange that some of old posts are working and some are not. (So the answer is not going to be something like: This will happen for all posts from March 2015 and older because...)

Magisch

12:31 PM

@Derpy I dont even know

Andrew T.

12:55 PM

Is Magisch bjb's socks? :P

user202362

1:08 PM

user202362

50 shades of stackoverflow?

user202362

think abstract ... stack++ until 50

rene

1:25 PM

@Quill regex?

Derpy

Anyone here has experience using IMovie?

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1:54 PM

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Lynn Crumbling

2:21 PM

@ProgramFOX ping

S.L. Barth

2:45 PM

!!/allspam stackexchange.com/users/8303064/user533513

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DroidDev

@Telkitty those are like 5 shades, since I am not able to differentiate the top two shades :P

ProgramFOX

@LynnCrumbling pong

Derpy

3:03 PM

Pata Pata Pon(g)

user315433

3:34 PM

Software Recommendations design is live.

rene

helpful ... i.stack.imgur.com/brpnR.png

bjb568

Anyone know how to make hexatech VPN work on mac? It works on iOS fine, but I can't figure out how to do it on mac.

bluefeet

@bjb568 create a VPN option in System Preferences > Network

user315433

> The insert key is still how I do copy and paste a lot of the time. -- Mark Henderson at 6:27 AM - 22 Apr 2016 via Twitter

user315433

Some SREs are dangerous.

user315433

3:43 PM

This was in reference to ongoing Twitter poll

user315433

Which is the most useless key ever created? Write-ins for Pause are welcome.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 22, 2016 at 12:47 PM

KutuluMike

scroll lock.

easy.

user315433

Yes... he could have picked better options. I use Num Lock a lot. F9, not so much.

user315433

The F keys got a lot of work in the days of Norton Commander, of course.

rene

... and WordPerfect

bjb568

3:57 PM

@bluefeet Hexatech uses their own protocol.

KutuluMike

I use the F keys a lot doing development.

f9 breakpoint

f10 step into

f7 and f8 are kinda slackers, though

bjb568

Status: Inside in a secluded area since the school's doing an earth day thing.

xkcdBot

Today's xkcd comic (Arcane Bullshit):

Learning arcane bullshit from the 80s can break your computer, but if you're willing to wade through arcane bullshit from programmers in the 90s and 2000s, you can break everyone else's computers, too.

bluefeet

@bjb568 idk then. :(

Lynn Crumbling

4:11 PM

@ProgramFOX Hiya :) Do you know if Smokey monitors mechanics.se?

ProgramFOX

it should

it monitors everything on realtime

Lynn Crumbling

All sites?

I thought that it monitored all sites, but only reports to certain rooms.

ProgramFOX

correct

user315433

@LynnCrumbling List of reports from Mechanics. Not many, 6 in last month.

Lynn Crumbling

@Meta Wonderful!

Lynn Crumbling

4:35 PM

@ProgramFOX Currently discussing the prospect of having Smokey report to the Pit Stop for mechanics.se. We're close to graduation, FYI.

ProgramFOX

I see. Let me know when you decided :)

SNAFU

5:29 PM

We're aware of connectivity issues coming through Cogent to our New York data center (affecting chat) - we're working on it.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on April 22, 2016 at 5:20 PM

Sunshine

5:53 PM

I like SNAFU. It's cute. Feeds was boring.

Sam

:o

I've heard of -53, but -171's a new one on me.

bjb568

6:25 PM

academia.stackexchange.com/posts/67304/revisions

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hichris123

7:26 PM

@Sam It was just created a couple of days ago. :)

Sam

@hichris123 Nice.

Lemme guess, the unicorns wanted another friend?

user315433

7:51 PM

@Sam Employee rooms have a lot bots reporting things, or just making noise.

user315433

So the negative Id get used more than on other chat servers.

bwDraco

cv-pls off-topic software recommendation superuser.com/questions/117776/…

Andrew T.

8:08 PM

Happy hour...

user315433

@AndrewT. Really? I think it's in 3 hours in this room.

user315433

Of course, it's ~ 5 pm somewhere... but here it's 4:09 and I have a complicatey report to write.

user315433

So not super happy yet.

Andrew T.

I don't know if "starting soon" is soon, or in 6-8 minutes.

TIL "soon" is "3 hours" in SE terminology~

user315433

8:43 PM

Stack Overflow's April 1 game, Unikong, is now open source - https://github.com/StackExchange/unikong, playable at http://stackexchange.github.io/unikong/.

Tweeted by aalear on April 22, 2016 at 8:25 PM

user315433

Wonder how difficult adding new levels would be.

user315433

9:07 PM

The position of buttons in Reopen queue keeps confusing me... in both Close and LQ queues (which are far more active) the buttons go from "best" on the left to "worst" on the right (before Skip). In reopen, it's the other way around. I'm too used to position the mouse pointer based on perceived quality of the post...

user315433

9:23 PM

> A Charset is a way of encoding characters such that they can be encoded.

user315433

Google's documentation being helpful.

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10:55 PM

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11:26 PM

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gunr2171

11:43 PM

On a StackOverflow CV, it links the job profession that you list on your Stack Overflow profile page. A few days ago I fixed a spelling mistake, but it is yet to update on the CV. Is this a bad caching issue or does something else know of another way to make it change?

Discussion between Fabrice Pautot and…

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