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12:09 AM
@Undo Did ya see this year's WWDC scholarship?
12:31 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in body, repeating characters in body: waht is quasi-isometric to a plane? by black Jack on math.stackexchange.com
@SantaClaus I just got the email.
@bjb568 well ur a cat
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12:47 AM
yesterday, by Santa Claus
@bjb Do you happen to know if there's a state law that might prevent me from, for example, bringing a wifi jammer (raspberry pi + wifi dongle) to school the week of state tests? Asking for a friend
^ it sortof worked pastebin.com/raw/bSHe6jFT @bjb
@bjb568 Only managed to delay a class change by 5 minutes :(
@bjb568 My 2nd floor locker is not an optimal location
o_0 sounds like a faraday cage
Ya chicken or something? Put it right where it's most effective.
12:55 AM
@bjb568 I felt like I was arming a bomb when I was trying to plug the darn nano-usb cable in while it was in my locker so I'm not really looking for trouble
What I really need is to carry it around in my backpack but my school doesn't allow backpacks in class
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3:05 AM
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@SantaClaus Yup
I'm planning to apply, but I'm not terribly confident because I haven't done much flashy stuff in the last year or so
The OpenMRS GCI project ticks the 'humanitarian' box, though, so I might have a chance
@Undo You could have worked on DevDoodlw. DevDoodle's flashy. Totes flashy.
@bjb568 is... it an iOS app now?
SmokeDetector and metasmoke are plenty flashy, but they're not exactly Apple tech
@Undo If you make it one ;)
@Undo WWDC has web/Safari stuff, so it isn't nothing.
3:23 AM
@bjb568 I might have to cheat a little bit and submit multiple projects. I have far more breadth than depth
Oh, man, I go deep.
Most people don't look at the OpenMRS thing and go "wow", and most people don't look at Smokey and go "wow" (I do, but that's because I get what it does). The two together, with a bunch of other projects? Might work better
Well, they'll be wowing if they know that bjb, the kewlest kat with sunglasses, endorses you!
I'll be sure to mention that :P
3:56 AM
We have no room owners pingable. :(
I need a certain duck or a certain Jason for feed changes... fixed by @Marshmallow (who is excellent at fixing App Script issues by the way)
there are feeds in this room?
A StackStatus feed that broke...
script.google.com/macros/s/… is the link if you have a moment
Shog9 has made a change to the feeds posted into this room
4:12 AM
What happened to Feeds's icon?
Since when did this become SciFi?
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Hi feeds 512!
Who needs a certain Jason when you can have a certain Shog? :P
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5:35 AM
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6:59 AM
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7:57 AM
Who is Luís Vaz de Camões?
Q: Feeds are real, not fiction! (aka Feeds system account got wrong avatar)

Shadow WizardOur beloved Feeds chat account suddenly got a new avatar: The source is: http://cdn.sstatic.net/Sites/scifi/img/icon-48.png?v=73abb3 and happens to be the icon for Science Fiction & Fantasy SE site. While bit funny and refreshing, can we please have the good old RSS icon back?

8:17 AM
@ShadowWizard Really tempted to downvote. The sci-fi icon is nicer
actually, can we have a pony icon instead?
@Derpy lol, feel free to do that - really... that's what MSE downvotes are for. :)
@Derpy feel free to post as answer, let's see what happens.... ;D
@ShadowWizard trolling people?
@hichris123 true, and sad. Maybe @Bart can be Room Owner? He's eternally pingable, even when he was away... :)
@Derpy nope. Expressing one's opinion. :)
Troll doesn't express opinion, just.. trolling.
@ShadowWizard So, replying to a bug report with what basically is "the bug is better than the original behavior" isn't troll :P?
Huh, Turbo @Oded for the rescue!
A: Feeds are real, not fiction! (aka Feeds system account got wrong avatar)

OdedNo idea what happened there. Old icon reinstated.

8:24 AM
@ShadowWizard you made it easy with all the links ;)
Just needed to update the icon URL.
Told you he's on bug watch, @rene. ;)
Nope... just always have an MSE window open
@Oded humble as always. :D
@oded You should have added a switch like "if user = ShadowWizard set icon = pony.gif"
8:25 AM
@Derpy we are working on that as part of paying down tech debt.
Ideally, an animated one too.
We will have a Skeet icon riding it too.
@Oded so you really did this "off duty"? Double thanks in such case. ;)
Jarrod and Néstor are on bug duty this week.
It's tasty.
8:27 AM
But - we all fix bugs all the time.
Our newest Q&A dev, out from Majorca.
Anyway @Oded while you're on that, who's SNAFU and why did he post the recent feeds?
4 hours ago, by Feeds
Shog9 has made a change to the feeds posted into this room

SNAFU? Who the skeet is SNAFU?

4 hours ago, 0 second total – 5 messages, 1 user, 0 stars

Bookmarked just now by Shadow Wizard

@Quill so? Why a different system account and not Feeds?
also in the transcript (and the url username) his name is Feeds 542
I guess we will need to ask @Shog9 about that, once he wakes up.
8:30 AM
@Oded huh, and I thought Shog is always awake. :D
Naw, you are confusing him with Tim Post.
@Oded lol yeah I know. ;)
@Oded hmm... guess you're right. @TimPost is the Jon Skeet of CM's. ;)
He has an interesting schedule. Working out of the Philippines and trying to keep to US times. I don't know how he does it.
@Oded lots of coffee, for sure. :)
Heh, I'm on the US East Coast and sleep 9am-5pm Eastern time, so reasonably aligned with the Philippines. (I collaborate with a student in Singapore, though that's mostly just an excuse to be awake at night.)
8:35 AM
@Oded Not a big deal for a gamer, I've heard.
@ShadowWizard no doubt.
@JeffreyBosboom huh, is that why your avatar is just white? Because you miss daylight so much? ;-)
I originally wanted my avatar to be transparent, but Imgur seems to have problems with that, so I settled for white. Mostly it's because I block Gravatar and blocking my own avatar was slightly annoying, so I had to set it to something.
woah! a simple discussion with no links from smokey! This room is going crazy!!!!!!!11!!!
8:40 AM
@JeffreyBosboom so you don't see any avatars at all?
> Url in title
Title - Position 1-35: http://chat.meta.stackexchange.com
@ShadowWizard I see i.stack.imgur.com ones fine (for example, yours).
@JeffreyBosboom so.... how gravatar is related? Your whiteness is also imgur.... confused
@ShadowWizard I block Gravatar, so I set my avatar to be from Imgur.
9:06 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] Link at end of answer, pattern-matching website in answer: Names of the ghosts or monsters in Pac-Man by ngo hue on gaming.stackexchange.com
9:16 AM
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9:34 AM
@ShadowWizard why would you want to ping me?
@ShadowWizard My vote is still for @hichris
@Bart You're a lovely person and people like to ping you.
[ SmokeDetector ] Email in body: looking for a movie by Kaja on movies.stackexchange.com
@SmokeDetector WTH is that spelling
Written by a psykopat
9:54 AM
@Bart to do RO stuff, e.g. change feeds... ;)
Surely you can handle that :)
@Quill never crossed my mind! But yeah, this will do too. :D
11:02 AM
Is there any SO moderator online?
If there is, check the recent abusive flags cast, those explain the store
@Ferrybig Oh, any fun I'm missing?
@PhMgBr let me guess, something abusive.... :D
@Ferry doesn't SO got a Tavern of its own, where moderators lurk more often?
A friend of mine sent me this link
[Behold: EVA (ATM) field)]()zenergeia.sg/official/the-technology
I think that the Tavern deserves to have a look at this too.
flagging as spam :D
I don't think anyone could take this link seriously.
uff... the edit time limit...
11:17 AM
I will have to see if my eyeglass cleaning cloths work too...
they looks pretty similar
@Derpy actually, this totally fits in Life Hacks! It requires Wet Wipes.
@ShadowWizard ghghgh
Q: How to reduce electricity bills?
A: Use wet wipes.
@ShadowWizard Yeah, some jerk is on the loose
11:19 AM
@ShadowWizard Maybe I should try to ask on LE Meta to feature the link in the Site Ads section?
Question is, if it's scam, or prank... maybe when you pay you get a funny message... :D
11:29 AM
[ SmokeDetector ] English text in body on a localized site: Android app lock doesn't work on android lollipop 5.1 by Ruffiano.J on ru.stackoverflow.com
@ShadowWizard All your $ are belong to us?
@Derpy yes, probably....
11:55 AM
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1:18 PM
Hey, anyone here using the API know if it can return the Hot Network Questions list?
@ShadowWizard nope, screen scrape it yourself
DualBooting Ubuntu + windows
@UniversalIndicators nah, was wondering if the hot questions in SE apps are the same as what we see in SE itself.
1:34 PM
Curses acer
Reinstalls ubuntu
Windows made it soooooo hard to install Ubuntu now.
partition, install windows on one, Ubuntu on another
And also I messed up big.
I got a 32bit instead of 64bit
then set boot selection in your bios
Cursing secure boot as well
lemme guess, you are just not very good with it :p
1:41 PM
I have done it before, and it wasn't fun.
Oh askubuntu FTW
Q: Installing Ubuntu on a Pre-Installed Windows with UEFI

Michał TaborI'm absolutely new to Linux. I have been using Windows for all my life, but I have read about Ubuntu (and Linux in general) and I think I'll like it, so I wanted to know how to install Ubuntu on my PC with a Pre-Installed Windows 8 or later on it. Can I do it with Wubi or through the Live USB/DV...

> Current status: Terms of Service update inbox messages going out to all Stack Exchange users.pic.twitter.com/9WZCpGXtJ8 -- Nick Craver at 6:41 AM - 19 Apr 2016 via Twitter
@Marshmallow huh, less than 8M users.
Ummm is it okey if I put a question here and ask for help? :p
Nvm ^^
Yay got it!
... 11min ago
[ SmokeDetector ] Few unique characters in answer, repeating characters in answer: How do I delete a previous recipient's email address from Mail? by hjg on apple.stackexchange.com
1:48 PM
sd k
内容: content
20/20 for content, 1/20 for language
Weird. Summing up all users here gives 10,151,926 users. @Nick sent messages to 7,990,305. What happened to 2,161,621 users? Why they don't deserve to be notified?
hmm.... doubt it
No "IsSock" column in database afaik
IP check in the spam script? :p
1:55 PM
hmm... doubt it
too expensive to check
If anything, maybe unregistered users.
Only way is to ask
> @avimehenwal Every login goes to one "Account" (it's a network-level concept, like the inbox), per-site entities are "Users". -- Nick Craver at 6:44 AM - 19 Apr 2016 via Twitter
Clears triage
So, if I have 154 site profiles, you have counted me 154 times. But I get one inbox message.
so socks on a broad level ... if you think abstract ... like another you, and on another site
1:58 PM
@Marshmallow hmm... still, over 2 million with account on more than one site? Hard to believe...
@bjb DD is crap in IE, programs don't work.
On the screenshot, I don't understand the meaning of Where Id Not In (Select AccountId from Inboxes where Title = @Title). Looks roughly like "don't message more than once", but it's strange that Inboxes have a column Title...
All your answers to your SQL questions.
@UniversalIndicators it's written in pretty much in javascript
of course it doesn't work ;p
2:03 PM
DD does not support IE out of principle
@ShadowWizard Accounts can have a user on more than one site.
So it's like I can have an account on SO and MSE?
no, you have one Account (network-level), you can have many Users (site-level)
@ShadowWizard Logical fallacy, an account can have a user on 10 sites, 2 million isn't a important number there.
@Marshmallow @bjb568's decision?
@NickCraver thanks, so it means unregistered users also get notifications?
Nov 17 '15 at 23:31, by bjb568
And I don't support IE, what's your point? IE doesn't support anything.
2:07 PM
@Marshmallow huh! And what about Edge? ;)
@ShadowWizard correct, they have an Account and have contributed content or interacted - so we alert them to terms changes
@NickCraver makes sense. I didn't get any notification yet... how long should it take?
@ShadowWizard 6-8
6.2 million sent so far
I'm always last. :(
2:10 PM
It's the "W" in Wizard. It sucks to have a last name toward the end of the alphabet
Though...I haven't gotten one yet either, so that's a bad joke
@NickCraver I wonder how many will rush to Meta to post a bug report "I got this weird message, is this spam?" ;)
hangs head in shame
well the link is to the meta post, so I assume very few
Poor @Andy
@NickCraver we'll see... :)
Yay! I got it! But it didn't trigger notification in the android app, and it's not in the android app inbox. Bug? /cc @Nick
checking too fast, Android pushes aren't instant with millions queued
throttled by Google
2:22 PM
@NickCraver so it will appear in the app inbox at some point?
it's all one inbox
@NickCraver not really, I never see messages about bounties in there, for example.
Only comments, answers, and chat notifications.
oh right mobile API - it's one inbox, but that API presents a subset of it
@NickCraver so that mega notification of yours is part of the subset?
since it wouldn't know what to do with other types of messages which have no native equivalent, like reviews
would have to check - it's generic so possibly not...it's only been used once ever before, when MyOpenID was compromised
2:25 PM
@NickCraver cheers, if you want me to submit a bug report/feature request in case it's not part of the mobile API let me know. :)
(easier to follow/track)
can submit a request, unlikely to be acted on to be honest, it's a really rare use case
Fair enough.
other things like review aren't really asking for inbox support, it's asking "can you implement the review queues in mobile...and make the inbox links work", so just keep in mind the bar there on native
wow, 2000 new views in matter of minutes...
in Language Learning on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 3 mins ago, by Flimzy
If "Software Recommendations" can make it over the POB barrier, we surely can make it.
2:30 PM
@UniversalIndicators IE is crap in DevDoodle.
2:45 PM
5 programming questions in half an hour... probably clueless users click the notification, stay in MSE, and post their question there. Sigh.
@Nick maybe while that ToS question is featured put a giant flashing "THIS IS NOT STACK OVERFLOW" banner in the MSE Ask Question page?
Not obvious enough
Just turn off questions entirely on MSE for the next few weeks or so
I bet tomorrow it will cross the 100k
If not 1M
@SterlingArcher yeah... well @Oded is on top of that and nuke those on spot, so guess it's not that bad. Usually they stick for at least a full hour before SE dev/CM deletes them.
Wrong place. Get back to Stack Overflow please and post it there. — Shadow Wizard 20 secs ago
Chances this will help: 0.000000001%
Doing my best. Halp!
@Oded give me diamond... ;)
2:57 PM
What, no elections?
@Oded V.I.P diamond
פרוטקציה ;)
OMG it did help, OP actually replied to me. going to do lottery
@ShadowWizard SNAFU stands for... Uh... "Situation Normal - All Facilities Up".
On a roll, eh?
2:59 PM
Yeah, really proud of myself :D
@Shog9 yup, but why creating new account instead of using good old Feeds?
Well, it worked! :D
Ha. The ToS question is gaining votes at an alarming rate. > 600 in the last hour.
3:03 PM
Are code snippets MIT or CC? meta.stackexchange.com/questions/272956 says MIT but the terms still says CC stackexchange.com/legal
Jaydles hit the repcap in ~10 minutes from that question.
@Xeoncross the license change to MIT never took place.
> Thank you for your patience and feedback. We're going to delay the implementation for now
@Oded and insane amount of views.... reloading the page is like refreshing Windows Explorer while copying a huge file.
Yep. It is about to overtake the FGITW post in votes.
@ShadowWizard well, every user on the network got a link to that question in their inbox so I expect the number will get very large.
@Oded and don't forget new MSE users... must be thousands by now.
3:06 PM
Yeps... our engagement numbers for April are going to hit a record high ;)
@Oded weird, only ~200 new users today.
Oh, most people won't bother to click "Join this community".
Indeed. Yay for barriers for entry (however small they are)
I got a blonde moment thinking profile creation is automatic, like in per site meta. lol
It is one of the weird and wonderful things about MSE
@Oded totally agree... it's a Meta yet not per-site meta. ;)
3:10 PM
that only works on meta.meta.stachexchange.com
@Oded maybe you should do some more announcements like that
Q: On-hold questions should have on-hold music

msh210Since a closed question is now listed as "on hold" for the first five days, I think the page should play hold music (autostart on load). This feature would supply the following advantages: It would make even clearer to the asker that the question is on hold. It would be an immediate indication ...

I could imagine most of the PSAs are relevant enough to get blasted to 7 million users forcibly
Wow that's a ton of votes. It was only in the 200s earlier.
@Quill not really needed usually. In this case - we are changing legal terms and conditions. And are required by law to make a good faith attempt at informing all of our registered users.
3:39 PM
I set a sound notification for new meta.SE questions, for more effective flag-farming.
Today's harvest should be plentiful.
4:11 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] All of this user's posts are spam: user 3252794 on stackoverflow.com
4:53 PM
How to install ubuntu
Screw windows.
Why am I using vi, not vim.
@UniversalIndicators what about ubuntu on windows?
@KutuluMike nah. just nah.
apparently the linuxified version of Windows 10 is out to the early-access people.
my msdn subscription does not seem to count
this is really going to give the "GNU/Linux" camp some ammo for their argument... now we'll have GNU/Linux, GNU/Herd and GNU/Windows :\
Is it okay to change a community promo ad picture right now, that the images are in circulation?
6:08 PM
I don't see a problem, as long as it still promotes the same thing.
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7:19 PM
Your script doesn't show that, but knock yerself out. Am the king of jerky commenters, btw. — Won't 28 mins ago
Oh Will.
7:52 PM
In this I assume I can just do a SEDE query for accountid of users per database that also exist in stackoverflow, right? Or does demographic also requires, age or location counts/averages
The OP says that having an SO account is an acceptable measure.
Stuff like age and location is often not reported, making the statistics based on this next to meaningless.
OK, I'll plugin my sede multi db answer then
8:16 PM
Does your browser support arrow functions? https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Functions/Arrow_functions
According to the poll, the support level for arrow functions is 100%.
I would have a few questions about my beloved BK 0010-01... if I still had the thing.
8:28 PM
@Marshmallow surprisingly high numbers ...
@rene if the query also returned % of SO users so the list could be sorted by it...
Yeah, that would make more sense I guess... hold on
and done
9:01 PM
Very interesting. Excluding Russian sites, the least SO-overlapping are Civicrm, Judaism, Mathoverflow, Hermeneutics, and Math.
Another way to put it: there are only 6 sites where fewer than half users are from SO. Two Russian ones, and the first four above.
On the other hand, a lot of this is "SO user saw a HNQ and clicked Join to upvote"
9:26 PM
That ^ would be interesting to know
@rene I consider a user "real" if they have 200 rep on the site. This is when they begin to be tracked in rep leagues. Modified your query with this condition, with an interesting result: the percentages went up, often to near 100%. Rus, MathOverflow, and Sound are the only sites with < 50% SO overlap by this measure. All three are imports.
Hmm, interesting. Basically the SE network consists of SO users that when bored join and participate on other SE network sites.
9:41 PM
Yes, that's basically how they describe themselves, too: the world's largest programming community is growing. The absolute number of site users with 200+ rep is sometimes really small, with 12 sites under 100 users.
The logo soup on that page has the old SO logo.
10:12 PM
so I got 8 on LL and 97 on Retrocomputing
I know which one I prefer ;p
A: What constitutes "retro"?

Robert CartainoWhen starting out, I would like to keep this definition as open as possible so we don't start off by flogging unsuspecting users with some pedantic definition of retro… until we see an actual encroachment of those "we didn't really intend this" problems in actual practice. I like the general co...

It's always a pleasure to read Robert Cartaino's answers
And then read them again and again and again as he inserts or deletes 2-3 characters. ;)
Today's edition of interesting job titles...
Is there a Software Engineer level system or something?
"Gain 1000 rep on Stack Overflow to become a Software Engineer III"
it's the sequel to the highly acclaimed role, Software Engineer
after Software Engineer II, we'll have the third role: Software Engineer III: Engineer with a vengeance
Hopefully it's a good sequel...
Software Engineer II: QA Strikes Back
> The role of the Test Manager (TM)
lol I couldn't figure out if that was a trademark or not at first.

Full-stack Web Developer, Marketing

Stack Overflow

Come help evangelize the Stack Overflow story by supporting our marketing team. As a dedicated marketing developer,…

Posted on Stack Overflow Careers on February 15, 2016

SO is hiring!
Oh, huh, I didn't realize Google was using Careers.

Full-Stack "Rock Star" Developer - 100% Remote

Natural Health Sherpa

Want to have fun coding cool, challenging stuff from the comfort of your own home? Eager to join a team of high…

Posted on Stack Overflow Careers on April 14, 2016

this... looks like a pyramid scheme company.
> Url in title, pattern-matching website in body, pattern-matching website in title
Title - Position 8-30: naturalhealthsherpa.co
Body - Position 8-30: naturalhealthsherpa.co
Title - Position 1-31: http://naturalhealthsherpa.com
Their URL matches. :)
10:36 PM
Well, at least if their "Rock Star" makes a spam bot...
Comcast apparently likes SHOUTY CASE.
> Apply only through this link -

Any applications received through email or other means will not be considered.
Doesn't that break the Careers TOS?
Oh I guess not?
Huh, I though applications were all handled through Careers. Though I guess it does make sense not to...
I'd assume that Careers are meant for applications to be transmitted by Apply button. Companies may choose to accept them by other means, but don't have to.
> Started programming at Age 10 on a TRS-80 Model I Computer in 1979. Bought the computer with my own money that I saved up delivering newspapers under somebody else's name because I was too young to get a work permit. Self taught myself BASIC, Z-80 Assembly, and C/C++. -- The COO of SO
That's the spirit.
Number of meta posts with the word "unilateral":
Meta.SO 79
Meta.Math 66
Meta.SF 17
Meta.SU 4
Meta.PPCG 5, all of which are on answers to the Moderator Questionnaire
A questionnaire is an excellent place to demonstrate your fantastic vocabulary through extravagant and unnecessary terminology
> The datacenter in Corvallis, OR is being reborn as a developer / SRE playground for Stack Overflow pic.twitter.com/7DJEFrGTih -- Geoff Dalgas at 3:10 PM - 19 Apr 2016 via Twitter
why not just onebox the tweet?
11:24 PM
Because Jason C will be angry.
If he ever shows up again, that is.
Maybe JasonC evolved into from a bjb bot into something with a soul
@Quill It also looks better on the starboard.
11:41 PM
New site name appears to have been decided: The future of “Beer, Wine & Spirits” by bluefeet on meta.beer.stackexchange.com
Wonder why gnat set his Math.SE profile as hidden. It's not such a controversial subject...
The only thing to hide there is the voting record, it seems.

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