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8:00 PM
@Josh I have a few Oy ideas; that wasn't one of them, but I'm Oy sure we can Oy find somewhere to fit it in.
And why would we wait almost a year until Jan 4th? what is special about that?
 
@MarcGravell I support that on April 1 we add a reason to close posts as "Oy!"
 
I Oy'd that last message just for you guys. :D
 
Why is there a wall of stars again?
 
If only I could run for meta mod...
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This. ↑
 
8:01 PM
 
@MarcGravell Yes sorry, I was doing m/d which I agree is backwards
 
@TimStone Apparently, a rash of oys. ;)
 
I mean, I know what I say is golden, but "Hahah" isn't that exciting. :P
 
@TimStone DONT STAR THIS always gets stars too
 
@MichaelMrozek SO mods become MSO mods.
 
8:02 PM
On April 1 all instances of C# should be replaced with OY. #badideas
 
FEATURE REQUEST: In addition to flag and star, I want an "oy" action on messages. Then I can just oy the message rather than saying oy.
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@badp It's the one thing that's tempting me to put myself forward for SO or SU moderator.
 
@RebeccaChernoff In support of this.
 
@RebeccaChernoff I WANT TO STAR THIS LIKE I'VE NEVER WANTED TO STAR A MESSAGE BEFORE IN MY LIFE
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Where is my giant star image?????
 
8:03 PM
@Josh case in point. This message needs to be oy'd.
 
@ChrisF I wish for a meta.SE site where all mods on all sites are mods, just like it happens for chat. So much blue...
 
@ChrisF RE: that second part, I'm not sure that'd work based on this
 
@badp Yeah, but I'm very much not banking on winning that election :). I think I'd have a chance on a meta election, if only because far less people care about meta
 
@TimStone Ah - so it would have to be SO only. The one place I really don't want to be a mod.
 
8:05 PM
@MichaelMrozek I'd say you have as good of a chance as any. Just hope that the rep limit doesn't catch you.
 
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, but since @RebeccaChernoff was hired to prevent that scenario, you're probably out of luck in both races. :(
 
@TimStone I don't think she was hired for that; it's just one of the perks
 
@ChrisF Assuming that's still the policy, I'd suppose so. I had a bit of trouble deciphering what Jeff had written there the first time around, heh, so I wasn't entirely sure.
@MichaelMrozek Well, the end of days is probably counterproductive to community growth, so perhaps in an indirect way.
 
What scenario was I hired to prevent?
 
@RebeccaChernoff Suck.
 
8:07 PM
@MichaelMrozek becoming Meta Mod
 
oh, yeah, that too.
 
@TimStone except on the religion SE sites, where the end-of-days would gather a lot of interest
 
:460225 aww :(
 
@MarcGravell Ah, good point. I didn't fully think that one through.
 
Oh, well yes. My initial contact about the position was "we think you can help us keep Mrozek out."
 
8:09 PM
we're all going to die!!! (gets out laptop...)
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hmmm - maybe not
 
I'm a little offended that they think one full-time person is enough to counteract me. I'm a slippery one
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to clarify, my "we're all going to die!!!" wasn't in relation to rchern getting hired. Purely coincidental.
 
^^^^ another example of a message that should be oy'd.
 
...wait for it...
 
(that was for @MichaelMrozek for @MarcGravell's message works to)
 
8:10 PM
@RebeccaChernoff Meta-oy
 
See, in Super Oyrio 64, Oyrio had to find the stars, not the other way around.
 
In Soviet Russia, The Oy's Star You!
 
@MarcGravell Are you guys in charge of the chat ads on the site?
 
@TimStone Obviously you mean @RebeccaChernoff. @RebeccaChernoff is in charge of all that you see and hear. She controls the horizontal and the vertical
 
And the backward, right..how silly of me.
 
8:14 PM
Depends on if you want to praise or blame, @Tim
 
Blame. :P
 
I support those who choose to lead alternative smile-styles.
 
You have entered, the jQuery zone.
 
I get the praise, balpharc get the blame. serious nod
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@RebeccaChernoff balpharc? I picture some two-headed dragonlike creature, some hybrid of @balpha and @MarcGravell... shudders
 
8:16 PM
I picture baseball. (Ball Park)
 
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Q: "to have all but X"

badpWhat does "all but" mean in this expression? I have all but gratitude for what you have done. I have seen this used as an intensifier to mean "I only have gratitude", but logic says the sentence means "I have all kinds of feelings towards you, except gratitude."

 
runs off to write a userscript to invert @RebeccaChernoff smilies.
 
see? an eeasy one! go get free reps!
 
I...don't think I've ever heard "all but _____"
"nothing but ______" certainly...
 
"Everything but gratitude" would seem to imply appreciation was included.
Contradiction! Head explodes
 
8:19 PM
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A: "to have all but X"

Justin 'jjnguy' Nelson I have all but forgotten about you. This means that even though much time may have passed, or many events have occurred I have not forgotten about you. It is emphasizing that no matter what has happened (or presumably will happen) I haven't forgotten about you. I don't think your example m...

Free reps for me?
 
form = all but [verb], rather than all but [noun] does make more sense :)
 
Jin
@JustinjjnguyNelson I have all but free reps for you.
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson I don't think providing the right answer is "free reps". That's called "normal reps" :)
 
I have all butt chicken for lunch.
 
8:22 PM
@Jin, I'm ok with that!! What do you have then?
@MichaelMrozek Touche. I'll take normal reps too!
@mootinator So you didn't have chicken?
 
@JustinjjnguyNelson Yes. Though I may have exaggerated on what else I ate.
 
@mootinator I believe you have.
 
I had a subset of nothing but chicken, or chicken, or neither
I just wrote a native Java function whose sole purpose is to throw whatever exception I pass it, because Java can't see native throws so it can't tell that I'm throwing an exception I didn't put in my method signature
I kind of feel like a terrible person
 
LOL
 
// I kind of feel like a terrible person
would be useful comment in the code
 
8:30 PM
@TimStone "in charge" is ... Jeff I suppose; why?
 
There's a small bug, I decided to just be sensible and meta-post it.
 
he didnt like his meal and wants his rep back
 
public ExceptionSnowballFactory extends WhyOhWhyDidWeTrustRChern implements WorstPractices, CodingHorror {
  public static void inYourFaceThrow(Exception pie) throws Exception { ... }
}
 
We should be able to use rep to buy bling for our profile pages
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Always wanted dragon shoes
 
8:33 PM
(it's been a while since I broke that out)
 
and yet, not long enough.
 
english.stackexchange.com/questions/9293/… <-- this is why I like @RobertC et al
Not OB'd out of deference ;)
 
@drachenstern I imagine they discussed it and Robert was just the one who happened to undelete it; it's probably not a personal statement of support
 
Hence my et al ya know? He was the face so his name
He even says there was an internal discussion
 
@drachenstern Oh, wow, I was wrong.
 
8:45 PM
Eh?
I was a bit off in my 45 estimate huh?
 
The question wasn't flag-removed.
 
I blame my $('dogs').walk() ...
Figured that's what you meant. It sort of was tho huh?
 
Well, not in the automagical sense. But anyway
 
@mootinator lemme know when it's done.
 
Indeed. Nomnomnomhamsandwhich is good
 
8:50 PM
I would imagine that requesting a "user is a dumbass" question closure reason won't fly, right?
 
@Zypher - You there?
@CanSpice Depends on the question.
 
I need to focus and finish updating this UI, but the code is just...so ugly.
 
@CanSpice That's a little more acceptable than my request... "Closed as Retarded."
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@CanSpice not usually, but flagging might work
 
@Fosco LOL
 
8:51 PM
@Moshe for another 10 ja
 
@Tim I'm having the same issue :/
 
@Zypher Ok, sending you an email now. Do work at SO, btw?
 
yep
 
Well, it's just repeated dumbassery. It's like the person has a goal but has to ask an SO question for every single step of the process.
 
Sysadmin ... writer on blog.sf ... other less savory function of any good company
 
8:52 PM
@CanSpice Links? I have 10 close votes remaining today :-)
 
@drachenstern I really should have learned how to use Swing properly (though I'm not sure there is such a method) before writing it in the first place...but unfortunately I'm a bit pressed for time as far as a rewrite is concerned at the moment.
 
@Zypher like changing the names of users who you feel made a poor choice of display name?
 
no that was just to make me smile a little inside
 
HAHAHA
 
@Moshe If I ever have actual time ;)
 
8:53 PM
@CanSpice welcome to SO. I see that a lot. My only course of action is to comment to that effect and move on.
 
Apparently, chicken was popular for lunch today.
 
@Zypher Well, kneecaps occasionally do need busting, yes..
 
so true @TimStone
 
@Zypher - There, sent. (I actually wrote the whole thing, although it might seem like a form letter...)
 
Ok time for focusing ... Need to write some database CRUD for sets, need to update the UI one more time, then go home...
 
8:56 PM
@drachenstern What language?
 
C# as always
.NET or DIE
 
@Moshe very cool
 
I have no problem growing rich on the back of a monopoly
 
Is the new meme we just star everytime Josh laughs?
 
LOL
 
8:59 PM
Apparently someone thinks so.
 
Really scraping the bottom of the barrel now aren't we.
 
Must be.
Wait. I only proved that either I am the mysterious starrer OR the meme isn't any laugh.
Someone else LOL.
For SCIENCE.
 
...
 
SCIENCE
 
has the urge to test hypotheses.
Doesn't think he can observe this one.
Schrödinger's chat user.
 
9:04 PM
"Schrodinger's Chat"... The post is both starred and un-starred, until you observe it.
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Can anyone explain this to me? I asked yesterday, but had to run out and I can't seem to search the transcript:
dihy(year) in {355:1,385:1}1
@Fosco When anyone laughs.
 
@Moshe it was @Josh who explained it, and I think linked to a question on it
It builds an object and let's you check to see if the object has the property
The one is to force it to make an object
 
Actually, it's return diyh(year)....
Okay, and what is the 355:1 doing there? specifically, the :
 
iOS makes it hard to answer code questions properly
 
@drachenstern wasn't this Josh
 
9:16 PM
I didn't realize there was a 1 at the end
I thought it was you that answered it, was it YiJiang then?
 
maybe
 
ffs, this is why I shouldn't chat.MSO on iOS
 
@drachenstern I think it was @Tyler actually, not sure though. Could've been @Yijiang.
 
I'm going to go look, hang on
 
Anyhoo, SO performs wonders.
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Q: What does this JS Expression mean?

MosheWhat does this JS expression mean? What are we returning? return dihy(year) in {353:1, 383:1};

 
9:18 PM
twas tyler
22 hours ago, by Moshe
return dihy(year) in {353:1, 383:1};
Also, I thought there was a link in there to SO, guess I was wrong
 
@drachenstern There was some link there.
 
@drachenstern can't talk
but can still post images
 
lmao, whatever
 
...wait for it...
I starred the link so we won't lose it. ... ... Until @RebeccaChernoff says ... or someone says Oy
 
9:25 PM
Why did I get 6 consecutive downvotes on that question? wth?
 
finds his ring finger migrating toward the o.
 
looks like some group of people went and burned downvotes on everyone there
 
slaps his hand.
 
Is out of stars. Considers using the Super Mario star until his supply replenishes.
 
9:28 PM
@drachenstern It's a puritanical voting ring.
 
I see this
 
Unfortunately they aren't talking about it on this site so we can't find them. DRAT!
 
Of course, all the controversy will just generate more rep for you.
 
That's a byproduct
I have gone past "cute question" and "I've got upvotes" into "wtf is wrong with this community that they can't do the one thing they got together to do" and I'm getting into the mood of community defender thinking that they're the ones with a problem
even tho it's not really my community to begin with </irony>
 
9:33 PM
Serial downvoters on popular questions: bullet, meet foot.
 
That's kind of the idea yeah
whoever it was figured out about not violating the spam hammer tho
 
nod
 
It gets better, they're also downvoting the meta questions, thinking that's going to get them some sort of resolution
 
@drachenstern That's dumb.
 
I don't think anyone would be @Moshe
I don't know why anyone would be against someone clarifying about a language in general.
If I were to ask you about slang words for money in Hebrew would you get upset?
 
9:39 PM
Ooo, my question is up to #6 on the SE hot list now.
 
NICE!
 
I don't know those words, I might end up asking you.
But I won't because I assume that their not "kosher", based on context.
:D
@drachenstern - btw, still porting that JS code. (No, not the entire language, just some code.)
 
@Moshe I rather thought you knew Hebrew in general
@Moshe lol, yeah, keep pointing out you're converting functions ;)
 
@drachenstern - I know enough to get around.
need to give my hand a break afk
playing catch w a trackball
done with my daily exercise.
:-D
@drachenstern - about 10 more short functions to go.
Oddly, I think the library has no unit test function or any place where it all ties together.
Hurray for Google Voice and free texting!
 
Note to self: get more halls
 
9:53 PM
@drachenstern halls?
Oh, I don't do the "note to self" thing. I use this:
 
Cough drops ...
I notice if I type it out I remember it longer
also, somebody here is bound to ask me if I did later ;)
 
Ah, Halls
...wait for it...
there it is
 
I think Jeff is weaseling out on this one and I can't say that I see a flaw in his logic which makes me sad ...
I'm trying to articulate my words for it so I know that I'm excising the demon that is vexing me, so I'm sorry if I'm just annoying you guys, say something and I'll shut up
I feel that I had a bit of an accomplishment getting upvoted so highly on E.SE for what I thought was a good answer and to see it torn to shreds by serial downvoters who happened to be puritanical makes me upset. The same as I would be upset by my coworkers destroying the internals of a class that was beautifully written and they tried to kludge in some awkward function that belonged to something else.
 
Need help with markdown
ideally @balpha but I guess he's sleeping now
 
10:11 PM
@drachenstern As mootinator once said, shortly before he was suspended from meta.so chat.
 
@mootinator why were you suspended?
was the message at :460491 intended for me since I was on the phone?
 
@drachenstern Because, in an alternate universe, I had the balls to leave the message that followed up ;)
 
Ahhhh
I saw that alternate universe message btw
 
I figured you would...
I'm never going to amount to much of a libertarian if I won't even get myself suspended from a chat room.
 
Is that what being libertarian means?
 
10:17 PM
@MichaelMyers not so much, no
 
Some seem to think it is... lol.
Though protesting a private website self-regulating speech is definitely decidedly not.
 
I just think of it as less governmental interference all the way around
 
So, technically I'm safe.
 
less taxation, less nanny state
I'm even ok with lower health regulations
but it has to be across the board in all parts of the government for me to be ok with it
 
If the puritans were the govenment, it'd be different.
 
10:19 PM
can't drop one end of the government and raise the other
@mootinator lol
The only thing I believe firmly in paying for is the military. But I think they should be responsible for more public works and that we should be more isolationist than we are now
 
makes an angry gesture at the FCC.
 
Indeed
ok, time for more working, less chatting
 
@drachenstern I'm not against paying for the military, but I don't see how the budget could get anywhere close to balanced without severe cuts.
 
@MichaelMyers Can we start with the buildings in and around the beltway? I bet if we sold those and cut the jobs that were tied up therewithin we could free up a chunk of change ...
 
Ever watched Yes, Minister or Yes, Prime Minister?
I am not optimistic.
 
10:22 PM
Cole's Certified First Step in Government Reform: Send the Senators and Representatives home every other term, at a maximum. Make them have home jobs and show up for their duty as part of a rotation.
@MichaelMyers I'm not either when it comes to governmental reform. Not even if we got to start fresh on Mars or in space.
 
Sigh.
 
apologizes profusely for mentioning his political alignment on SO.
 
commie bastard
 
@mootinator lol, what were you thinking!!!
@Shog9 I may be, but I am what I am except when I am not that which I am
 
** waits for Godwin's Law to kick in **
 
10:25 PM
@MichaelMyers sounds like something Hitler would say.
 
Now, do I star that or flag it?
 
@MichaelMyers both!
 
What do you do with a dog who apparently has a hairball she doesn't know how to deal with?
 
@mootinator Let the dog figure it out and record a video of the process
post it on youtube and remark the cuteness in the title
boom! instant hit :P
 
Might pull more than 825 hits out of it in a few hours ...
 
10:28 PM
"SUPERCUTE <3 DOGGY VS HAIRBALL ORIGINAL"
 
@badp She's just been gagging on and off for four hours, it wouldn't be a terribly interesting video.
 
Add a dramatic soundtrack then
 
@badp Not the People's Republic of Oy?
 
@mootinator @RebeccaChernoff has shown negative reactions to being reminded of how much we enjoy having her around
This negative reaction is both enjoyable and deleterious.
Hence, I give her rays of hope here and there to keep her on her toes :P
 
say what?
 
10:32 PM
Oy?
 
@Zypher Pretty much
 
ouch: proj.jetless.org/AWESOME-TIME (visual damage may occur or CPU heating)
 
My retinas have been burnt.
 
@TimStone i shouldn't have worn my contacts today
 
@Josh Wow, how did I miss that? Thanks. :P
 
10:37 PM
@TimStone LOL, sorry :-)
I felt like nitpicking ;-)
 
@drachenstern =/
 
No, spelling mistakes bother me to no end. I'm just surprised I didn't see the red squiggly, heh.
Plus, people clearly aren't outraged enough about the prospect of chat not getting ad love, for shame! ;)
 
So lemme get this straight ... I tell you guys it's gonna be painful and then you do it even faster? ... masochists ...
@TimStone I think we're more outraged about the puritanical meanderings ...
 
@TimStone That's because you didn't post it here!
 
...wait for it...
 
10:39 PM
OK. time to take up my anger about anyone-can-edit
@mootinator LOVE IT
 
@Josh I tried to blame Marc and balpha, but I think they snuck off to bed :P
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Q: Please bring the StackExchange™ MultiCollider SuperDropdown™ to the chat.

TomWijThis would be useful to have next to the all rooms button. Perhaps let it refresh each 30 or 60 seconds... :-)

:O
 
@mootinator needs to be italicized
 
also blue background mean flagged
 
@TimStone (:
 
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Q: How would I combine two arrays in Objective-C?`

MosheWhat is the Objective-C equivalent of the JavaScript concat() function? Assuming that both objects are arrays, how would you combine them? Javascript: function ffh(year, month, day){     if (month < TISHRI){ms = ranger(TISHRI, lmohy(year) + 1).concat(ranger(NISAN, month));}     else{ms = ra...

@Zypher - Did you download it yet? resolves to wait for an email or chat reply and not ask again
 
10:43 PM
@Moshe Just like that, your comment no longer makes sense to people just entering the room.
 
@Moshe manually?
 
I think I have helped participate in a question that is going to cause a divide in the E.SE crowd :S
 
@Moshe yea i have it ... then itunes crashed ... and you jsut reminded me to try again
 
@Zypher Thanks.
Did my app crash iTunes?
 
nah
the install on my work machine has always been flaky
 
10:44 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I guess I'll have to do more on SE sites so that I can get notifications to be excited about being able to be notified of in chat, heheh.
 
@drachenstern Are you team ___ or team ____?
really
 
@Josh what do you mean?
 
@Moshe resize the destination array, for(i=0; i< secondArray.length; i++) append to first array secondArray[i]
 
My god, this UI code offends my eyes more than whatever the hell @drachenstern linked to earlier.
takes a deep breath Just need to find what to copy and paste and be done with it..
 
@Josh I'm talking aobut Objective-C. I have the JS code, it's posted there.
 
10:46 PM
Ok. Maybe I just don't know Obj-C well enough
I know how you'd do it in "normal" C
 
Oh @Josh, are you going to be around later?
 
Probably until 7PM EST
 
@Josh Oh, I thought you were giving me JS code. Well, C would work, but Objective-C is sure to have convenience methods.
 
Ah, OK
 
Then I'll be making dinner and (if I can finish this project) taking the rest of the night off
Why?
 
10:48 PM
sorry ya'll, not on chat atm, slight crisis on my wife's computer
 
I had a question for you (but I'm not ready to ask it yet), but I'm sure I can manage on my own.
 
@TimStone you've piqued my curiosity. I'll leave my laptop open as I cook dinner :-)
 
Hahah, it's not that interesting. I'll see what I can do about hurrying up the completion of this code I need to take care of first, then. :P
 
Anyone know what Javascript's map function does?
 
Yes
 
10:51 PM
@Josh Care to explain?
 
developer.mozilla.orgis not responding :-)
 
It iterates over an array and creates a new array populated with entries from the first transformed by a given function.
 
@Josh, say no!
blah ):
 
@RebeccaChernoff I know, we're no fun, sorry. :P
 
@Josh i'm mad at them right now
 
LOL
 
you didn't realize my reach did you
 
@TimStone seriously. |:
 
10:53 PM
@RebeccaChernoff I'm in serious work mode! I can't help it.
 
Sorry @Moshe I am busy writing a meta rant :-)
 
@Josh ok
I have a ride in 5 minutes, still need to sync DropBox
 
but Tim explained it well
 
GAHHHHH
I hate hate HATE it when I open a new browser tab and forget what the hell I'm opening a tab for.
grumbles
 
Do you need suggestions?
 
@MichaelMyers If they're related to whatever the hell I was doing, yes.
 
@RebeccaChernoff Yegge's blog rants.
 
@Shog9 doesn't load for me!
but I'm not the one who doens't know what it does, so
 
I had solved a major problem in my head while I was in the washroom. Now I forget what that solution was.
 
@Josh does for me
 
10:57 PM
@mootinator Go back, see if the solution returns. (bad pun)
wonders if @Zypher has iTunes running again
 
@Moshe /facepalm
 
heh
My mouse hand is hurting. Time to take a break?
My ride leaves now.
 

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