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6:07 PM
hi, is there anything I can do about one of the tags getting prepended to the question, thus making my Firefox tabs indistinguishable? As if SO was already not annoying enough!
A: Remove the most popular tag from the title using JavaScript

Yi JiangWhile SOIS might not want to do it, we, as the user, can. And the script is absolutely ridiculously simple - so simple that I'm surprised nobody has posted it yet. Ah well, free Meta rep here I come: // ==UserScript== // @name StackExchange Title Tag Remover // @namespace yijiang /...

thank you Yi!
@romkyns you should try chrome with pinned tabs for the chatrooms ;)
@drachenstern Questions, for goodness sake
@YiJiang I can't see how many new or * posts there are :p
6:10 PM
@balpha Does this fix also take care of this issue? If so, it might also take care of the one I linked to in the comments there, but that could be something else too..
@drachenstern He's talking about tags in the question title
@YiJiang I know what he's talking about
Also, app tab for Firefox does the same, and Firefox 4 should have it natively
I liked your "free meta reps" comment
@YiJiang it does? interesting ... I use treestyletab
@TimStone no, that's something else. Although it's probably the same thing as this answer:
A: Markdown formatting bug with code blocks in lists

sthAlso note that additional scroll bars appear if there are long lines in a code block containing empty lines: Create list Add code: function() { // here we do lot's of stuff, and because comments are evil we get strange scrollbars displayed } (See also the source view of this post)

6:12 PM
@drachenstern shouldn't you be working?
@drachenstern Anyway, by itself app tab is pretty useless, since it doesn't tell you how many unread messages or @-mentions you have
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException what's that? I don't wanna
I don't wanna either, but I must :-p
Just came back from lunch, quickly checking in on my tavern buds :-)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I happen to be, I'm just putting off a hard thing till after lunch, then I'm gonna be ex-communicado for four or five hours
@balpha Ah, OK :) Figured I'd bring them up in case you wanted to add any more [status-completed] s to your collection, heheh.
6:13 PM
@drachenstern Talking to yourself again?
Hey there @balpha, how are you?
I just got a complete database instance all setup that apparently I should've had up two days ago
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException pretty good, thanks
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException your username is too long, @TheNeedsMoarJqueryException
@balpha I can only see the The
@balpha Yes I know
I will be choosing a shorter username in 24 days
Had a look at the reasons for prepending a tag to the page title - which is said to be to prevent site scrapers ranking first. I can't see why this would help though, wouldn't they just scrape the new titles and end up ranking the same?
6:16 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Why wait so long?
@balpha When I chose this one I thought Super Long Names Are Hilarious (comedy pestos)
@PopularDemand Because I can't get the "beat the 30 day period between name changes" to work
@romkyns It's not like that - SO provides its data under an easy to scrape data dump package
I changed on 1/1/11
On 1/31/11 I will become some other kind of exception...
So the tags you see in the title are actually added by Stack Exchange, and are not in the dump. They're inferred from the tags
And anyway, wouldn't it be pretty dumb to have sites with titles going 'JavaScript - javascript - ...'
ah, ok - but wouldn't a scraper just change their scripts to prepend the tag the same way SO does? Or is information on tag popularity not part of the dump?
6:18 PM
@romkyns They did it before SO, and were getting higher Google rankings. This just realigns the playing field.
oooooh :)
@romkyns The problem is that they already do, which is why some of them have higher SEO rankings. Of course there are other methods, but this is a simple and obvious one.
now I know who to really blame for having to install that script :)
@PopularDemand if only there were some mods who could change it for you ahem * @balpha * ahem * @RebeccaChernoff * ahem /me stupid cough
The Wheel says @PopularDemand, but I think you may have had someone else in mind
6:20 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Can't you copy profile from another user of yours?
@balpha (unless you have super mod powers and can change my name for me...)
Man, my reputation comparison post table is full.
@YiJiang What the... when did I get put on the wheel?
@radp I thought that doesn't work? I tried it and failed to make it work before
@PopularDemand Since the very beginning?
6:21 PM
If I add just one other line I'll be condemnded to the vertical scrollbars!
@radp Unacceptable!
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I could, but I won't. You have to live with that 30char monster now ;)
@balpha Good, good, teach him a lesson. ;)
@balpha Wait, what? Since when do actions have consequences?
@balpha It doesn't bother me, I never type it. It's all the rest of you who have to deal with it ;-)
6:22 PM
@PopularDemand I think there was a feature request that just got [status-completed].
@balpha I wanted to change mine to 'Stack Overflow hates short names', but ironically it was too long...
I keep grabbing the wrong name grrrr
stupid work interfering with my goofing off
sorry @PopularDemand you all know I meant @TheNeedsMoarJqueryException
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException <kbd>@</kbd> <kbd>T</kbd> <kbd>Tab</kbd>
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I tried to @-mention you the other day, but for some reason I had your old name in the auto-complete cache thingadongdong, and I got a few letters in, said "Screw it", and gave up.
@YiJiang "Stack Exchange hates short names" is just as long :(
6:24 PM
@TimStone I'm sure it was the most important thin you ever had to say to me, too!
It was too, and now it's lost forever.
@TimStone @The works too...
@TimStone it was that winning lotto number wasn't it?
@drachenstern That was only part of the package.
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Yeah, but you never know who might get pinged instead...and I couldn't remember exactly what you had changed it to beyond "The" :P
6:25 PM
@TimStone @The is just enough to highlight him.
I don't like to half-ass things, OK? ;)
As evidenced by your 100% availability presence in chat ;-)
Make me write documentation, will you, team lead? Very well. But the sample workflows in the doc will include references to thingsadongdong!
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Never know when someone will need me to interfere in their business.
Woot! I have now passed @MarcGravell and reached the #4 position in chat, surpassed only by @balpha @RebeccaChernoff and @JeffAtwood. I can now resume actual productive work again.
6:29 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Where are you seeing those numbers?
@PopularDemand that's ok, I'm responsible for building the entire demo system for demos of a week from today with all scripts for walkthroughs done up
and I'm up to #13, showing that I have zero productivity just like Josh ;)
and I've been here less time :D
Oh, @balpha already beat me to it
@balpha Thanks. (Yes! Still under 10k all-time messages! I'm not the loseriest loser ever!)
6:32 PM
@PopularDemand Everyone ahead of me is (now) employees. So I think that makes me the loseriest loser ever...
@drachenstern I'm sure your rate is fare greater than mine
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException @RebeccaChernoff probably jumped ship just for the purposes of avoiding that title
@drachenstern It is, ~1.2k msg/week for you vs ~753/week for me
I know good and well I made some "populate default data" scripts in these databases and they AREN'T HERE ... damnit DBAs I'm not just bored you know, they have a purpose
Early congratulations on becoming the next Assistant Community Coordinator, @TheNeedsMoarJqueryException! (I wasn't going to call attention to your... unfortunate position... before, but since you did....)
@TimStone Funny, I thought she got hired because she was the #1 chat user, LOL
@PopularDemand Why, thank you very much :-)
@PopularDemand Wait. Does this mean I'll be reporting to @RebeccaChernoff? If so, @balpha, please suspend my account now!
6:35 PM
Wow, that was random.
Speaking of activity comparisons,
@radp This scares me
6:36 PM
I just got an up vote from one of those "You have a typo in your code" answers.
I just watched Stars Wars as told by Family Guy..
@YiJiang You could always change your name to "Jeff hates short names"
Yi Jiang Prefers Short Names
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException We all report to @RebeccaChernoff, officially or unofficially
Good point @MichaelMrozek
Ok, I saw others discussion this before, but I forgot the result. If I address @Michael right now, does Michael Petrotta or Michael Mrozek get notified?
(It should be @MichaelMrozek because I addressed him last, but, he shows up second in the tab-complete list)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException It's both
6:45 PM
Hovering over shows @MichaelMrozek
Lunch now
@MichaelMrozek Thanks. As long as you get the alert I can address you as @Michael
@drachenstern enjoy it!
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Michael Petrotta will probably stab you when he sees 15 entries in his inbox that have nothing to do with him. Also Michael Myers, and if there's anybody who knows how to stab people it's him
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Or you can press @m and tab twice..
@MichaelMrozek Who are you? What did you do with Michael Mrozek? Actually, never mind. Thank you.
6:47 PM
@MichaelMrozek I'll be on my guard then, thanks for the heads up.
@TylerChacha Another useful tip, thanks
@MichaelMrozek I notice you didn't use the @MichaelMyers form when mentioning that he has knowledge of how to stab people. I take it you fear for your life? ;-)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException whoops.
(I am playing with fire here...)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException I figured he didn't care about this conversation, he's been involved it in enough times :)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Do you actually have an official position in SO Inc. now?
People are constantly pinging both of us
6:49 PM
@TylerChacha What do you think? ;-)
I think that it could be a joke..
I'm hoping its a joke...
If it is isn't a joke ... it might really be considered a joke
(hint: I know PHP, not ASP, and Prototype.js, not jQuery... ;-)
@TylerChacha It certainly was a joke. There's no way they'd ever hire me, LOL
There's a lot more valuble members of the community than I am
Thats what I thought...
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException 9,244 at last count
@MichaelMrozek You have a bad count. It was 9,593
6:53 PM
@Tyler: naw. he's just trending down.
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException becomes less valuable over time
We're here to annoy you.
See, @Michael, this is why you should use a nickname instead!
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException became less valuable after chat was introduced...
6:54 PM
Were all your parents unoriginal or something?
@TylerChacha Your parents really went outside the box with "Tyler"
I was named after my sainted great grandfather. How dare you insult his memory.
Achem. Sorry. I just remembered I was supposed to be working ;-)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Worse: STUB HIM!!!
6:56 PM
i don't get the pun..
waits for people to stop groaning
(I don't either...)
@radp, The court asks you to explain your bad pun.
6:59 PM
The court is not persistant...
The court moves on to listen to random music videos
the court apparently has ADHD
@radp People still haven't stopped groaning...
@TylerChacha You can't groan and ask for explanations.
I'm not groaning..
7:02 PM
If I provided one, the groans would only prolong.
Please, How is your pun funny?
how is any pun funny?
by being punny...
29 mins ago, by The NeedsMoarJquery Exception
@PopularDemand Wait. Does this mean I'll be reporting to @RebeccaChernoff? If so, @balpha, please suspend my account now!
7:05 PM
Do it...
I'm frustrated by the lack of power-hungry insanity in SOIS employees
yesterday, by Rebecca Chernoff
@MichaelMrozek I only suspend users starting with Michael and ending in Mrozek.
@TylerChacha If it was a funny pun it wouldn't be bad.
@RebeccaChernoff Damn
That's two different diamond users who have refused to suspend my account!
@MichaelMrozek I guess they're rather seat hungry. (I wouldn't blame them.)
Why do you all want me to not get my work done? ;-)
7:08 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Were I a meta mod, I would suspend you in a heartbeat. Vote for MichaelMrozek -- the mod who cares
@radp: another pun I don't understand. Why are you making me feel stupid?
21 mins ago, by Popular Demand
@MichaelMrozek Who are you? What did you do with Michael Mrozek? Actually, never mind. Thank you.
@MichaelPetrotta er, was that a pun at all?
@MichaelMrozek awesome, sign me up for THAT! Where do I vote? ;-)
@radp: you tell me. "seat hungry"?
7:09 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException meta.stackoverflow.com/election
@MichaelMrozek mmmm, waffles...
I meant, they'd rather not lose their job as a result of a power trip.
@MichaelMrozek Just don't suspend my Unix account. I'm enjoying that site.
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Everyone enjoys that site. It has something to do with it being spectacular
@MichaelMrozek Yeah, AskUbuntu is really something spectacular.
7:16 PM
@PopularDemand I think you may have confused Ubuntu with Unix/Linux. They're completely unrelated. According to Ubuntu users, anyway
All right, what's going on in here?
Oh, I see. Somebody was asking for a suspension. Hang on a minute...
@MichaelMyers I was trying to provoke @MichaelMrozek into a blind, Ubuntu-vs-Unix-fueled rage, but it didn't take.
@PopularDemand I'm always in a rage, you just can't tell because you've never seen me out of one
I'm only here because Josh randomly pinged me three times. But I'm such a nice guy, I'll overlook that and grant him his suspension request.
@MichaelMrozek Oh, there's always room to be even ragier.
7:22 PM
@MichaelMyers I tried to stop him, but he was out of control
Something about "Michael Myers is powerless" and "I dare him to try and stop me"
@PopularDemand And blinder.
@MichaelMrozek I did see something about stabbing, but I wasn't really paying attention by that point.
@MichaelMrozek -1 --an Ubuntu, AskUbuntu and Unix user
@MichaelMyers uh oh. he is going to stab me!
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException In his defense... you asked for it. Repeatedly. Enthusiastically, even.
This is true. I did :-)
7:31 PM
@MichaelMrozek All in all you should be glad -- Ubuntu users are mainly at bottom of the food chain, amirite? :P
I had this crazy idea that less chatting would mean more working...
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Utterly meaningless.
Your work may be chatting.
@radp Windows users are at the bottom of the food chain. Every time Ubuntu makes itself more like Windows they move closer to the bottom
@radp If only it were I'd be a rich man
@MichaelMrozek It's okay, they've been gliding towards OSX anyway.
7:33 PM
@radp That's impossible. No one could be paid for chatting here. What's next, getting jobs by chatting here?
My brain autocompleted the second verb incorrectly :)
/blame @catonmylap
"What makes you think rep is good for getting a job? – Popular Demand yesterday
@popular: because i know kids who have got jobs due to it. – Programmer 2 hours ago"
Kitty says "mrow"
7:35 PM
OK. Back to work for me, or else I really will have to ask for my account to be temporarily suspended!
That does it. Clearly my humor is too far above the unenlightened masses. I will now switch to slapstick.
(At least now if I do have to ask, I know who will grant my request ;-)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException You can ask to be suspended on chat only.
pokes @TheNeedsMoarJqueryException in the eye
7:36 PM
scratches head
@MichaelMyers Ha!
Just chat suspensions don't come with a dramatically looking countdown a la silencing timer.
just in case you were looking for that.
7:37 PM
@radp I also control our outgoing firewall. I could just block StackOverflow. EIther of these actions require the willpower to stop using the site ;-)
Anyone else here on the Graphics.SE beta?
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Your coworkers would have you dead in minutes.
@Moshe Hi Tyler
Oh, sorry, I confused you with someone else
Who will do their jobs for them now?!
@radp I don't pay them to chat!
Oh wait...
7:38 PM
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException aha, so it's you who pays!
Well, you could now pay yourself to chat.
Problem solved.
You're, um, evangelizing your product.
You have dangerous ideas @radp
@radp Let me clear this with our CEO
He responded, "GET OFF CHAT NOW!"
Let me work on that...
(Sadly, in the CEO card trumps the CTO card)
@TheNeedsMoarJqueryException Your company structure isn't web 2.0 enough!!
Q: How can I achieve the "bent paper" effect in photoshop?

MosheI've seen design elements on webpages that contain a "bent paper" effect. In other words, it looks like the paper is shaped in an arch, based on the visual perception of the shadow. How do I achieve this? (Please post a screenshot if possible.) EDIT: I found an image:

See, I made the picture in that question before asking.
^^^^^ Requires Graphics.SE Beta Membership ^^^^^^^
7:45 PM
stops trying to understand obscure JavaScript bugs and goes back to fixing up an Excel reporting class
@radp - stackmobile?
@Moshe It uses the API.
@radp - So anyone can see content from beta sites?
@Moshe Yes -- it's not that private.
It's always been like this.
7:48 PM
For the record, the picture posted in @Jin's answer has shadows, not visible on StackMobile
That's because of the dark theme mostly.
@radp I know.
Well it would've been reasonable to expect some kind of image compression from a mobile site; that's why I mentioned.
i'm on the first user column on one of the SE sites, finally..
7:51 PM
My current goal is to make the first page on meta
it seems graphicdesign.se is filled with mostly technical questions..
@MichaelMrozek You know that if you do, they'll just start showing less users per page.
@TimStone "They". We all know who you mean
I was trying to be subtle, but yes. ;)
7:53 PM
@Jin - Of course, SO was created for techies, that is to be expected.
i may let someone else design the Graphic Design site :) so I don' take flak for it..
@Jin Chicken ;)
Though I think I'd do the same (or at least claim someone else did it)
@ChrisF I'm really chicken about the Atheism site.. what's a design for that?
White text on a white background
Hellfire everywhere. And pentacles
7:57 PM
@Jin a completely white page with text.
or black text on a black background for the evil atheists
and meta will be on a slightly gray bg?
@ChrisF Like the old French flag?
The text fades away to white after some time, and then never comes back -- ever.
posted the design for GIS for anyone who's interested: meta.gis.stackexchange.com/questions/257/…
7:58 PM
@MichaelMrozek That's satanists ;)
@Jin Looks nice. Especially the badge icon things.
@ChrisF ...wait, there's a difference? :)
@Jin I likes it.
@Jin Have you being playing Minecraft? That compass looks very familiar ;)
@Jin It's no Unix.SE, but nice anyway :)
7:59 PM
@ChrisF no. but i finally may get minecraft. just ordered a PC for my son, and I think he'll enjoy playing it
either minecraft or lego universe..

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